Sexual attitudes/norms

[redking11]

I have been in contact with some women and am planning my first trip (Ukraine) in the next few weeks/month. I am not opposed to a sexual encounter with a woman I have been in contact with should it happen but before I go, I would really like to ask if there are any sexual norms/taboos ect that I should be aware of. If this topic is better discussed via private message please feel free to message. I assume that the language of love is mostly universal, but one never knows. 

[alex330]

Not much different than here. If she suggests you either of you should need a shower before bed green light means go.

[redking11]

So a shower before bed recommendation is the hint. Good to know, thanks for the advice. I might have just taken that as a clue to shower before our next date.

[redking11]

eeeemmm, so how direct should/can one be. "Would you like to come back to my place for a glass of wine" or  "I think you are beautiful, do you want to spend the night with me." I live in west texas/bible belt, I'm thinking there is a good chance things are different in Europe. Appearances of virtue are very important in my part of the country. 

[alex330]

It depends on the specific woman and the chemistry between the both of you, but generally I find RW a bit more open. Not sure I would just blurt it out, but that's just my personal approach.

[ML]

They will signal their readiness by saying they are going to take a shower, or they will just say "I want you."

FSU women will go for most anything . . . except don't try the Wheelbarrow or ask for the Jacksonville Jiggle on first event.

[redking11]

Lol! considering that I don't know what those are, I'm not too worried. Without going into the details, lets just say that my experiences of dating women in heavily southern baptist areas has taught me that sexual comparability is a real thing and it does matter. I would hate to meet a great lady, go home and invest several more months into her and a second trip only to discover that she believed love making was only for reproduction or that certain positions were "sinful". 

[JayH]

Lol! considering that I don't know what those are, I'm not too worried. Without going into the details, lets just say that my experiences of dating women in heavily southern baptist areas has taught me that sexual comparability is a real thing and it does matter. I would hate to meet a great lady, go home and invest several more months into her and a second trip only to discover that she believed love making was only for reproduction or that certain positions were "sinful".

What part of the US is she from?

[redking11]

I met her in west Texas but originally she was from the northern coast of Washington State believe it or not.  Some churches teach some strange stuff.

[redking11]

oh that paragraph describes two different women I have dated. Ergo, I don't presume that these attitudes are only found in one in a million women, 

[BillyB]

eeeemmm, so how direct should/can one be. "Would you like to come back to my place for a glass of wine" or  "I think you are beautiful, do you want to spend the night with me." I live in west texas/bible belt, I'm thinking there is a good chance things are different in Europe. Appearances of virtue are very important in my part of the country.

After a date, hold her and kiss her on the lips. Kiss more if she allows. Put your tongue in her mouth and see how well she takes it. If she sucks your tongue, it's a good sign. She may even give you her tongue. Move to light petting. She'll stop you when she wants but she'll at least want to know you're physically attracted to her if she likes you. If things seem good you may say "Stay with me tonight" or she may say first "I vant you" in a sexy accent.

The trend now is shaving the bush. Most FSU women like their men shaved downstairs.

If you are told to shower first by a woman you just met, make sure you bring your pants into the bathroom with you. Some men here have been robbed coming out of a shower with their pants and woman gone.

[JayH]

 

[BillyB]

What do you suggest? Sending people on their way with too little information? I prefer they be well educated before go to the FSU.

[wallm]

If you are told to shower first by a woman you just met, make sure you bring your pants into the bathroom with you. Some men here have been robbed coming out of a shower with their pants and woman gone.

What about the suitcase? 

[2tallbill]

eeeemmm, so how direct should/can one be. "Would you like to come back to my place for a glass of wine" or  "I think you are beautiful, do you want to spend the night with me." I live in west texas/bible belt, I'm thinking there is a good chance things are different in Europe. Appearances of virtue are very important in my part of the country.

Most FSUW don't have the sexual hangups that Western women have.

[redking11]

After a date, hold her and kiss her on the lips. Kiss more if she allows. Put your tongue in her mouth and see how well she takes it. If she sucks your tongue, it's a good sign. She may even give you her tongue. Move to light petting. She'll stop you when she wants but she'll at least want to know you're physically attracted to her if she likes you. If things seem good you may say "Stay with me tonight" or she may say first "I vant you" in a sexy accent.

The trend now is shaving the bush. Most FSU women like their men shaved downstairs.

If you are told to shower first by a woman you just met, make sure you bring your pants into the bathroom with you. Some men here have been robbed coming out of a shower with their pants and woman gone.

Yeah I agree a little too much detail, I was more worried about getting them back to the apartment. but the pants advice sounds like a good idea. I'm actually staying in a hotel so ill make sure to use the safe, if there is one.

[msmob]

Not much different than here. If she suggests you either of you should need a shower before bed green light means go.

So a shower before bed recommendation is the hint. Good to know, thanks for the advice. I might have just taken that as a clue to shower before our next date.

I really do hope you don't really need such advice ...judging by your comment on financial arrangements with any further Missus, I'm already forming an opinion this venture isn't for you ... sorry..

[redking11]

I really do hope you don't really need such advice ...judging by your comment on financial arrangements with any further Missus, I'm already forming an opinion this venture isn't for you ... sorry..

Then lucky for me, I've learned to enjoy the journey in and of itself even if I fail! Thanks for your opinion!

[2tallbill]

Yeah I agree a little too much detail, I was more worried about getting them back to the apartment. but the pants advice sounds like a good idea. I'm actually staying in a hotel so ill make sure to use the safe, if there is one.

For a second date invite them to your apartment (Don't stay in a hotel!!) for
a home cooked meal. Surely you have a couple of things that you can cook
up that a girl would like. I would suggest not Texican or anything remotely
spicy.

Even if you aren't much of a cook, you can cut up some cheese, fruit and a
few veggies, crackers, some chocolate then open a bottle of wine or champagnski.

Most FSUW would prefer that you made a pass at them a day early rather than a
day late. They want to know that you are attracted to them and that everything works.
They've had Russian men hitting on them since they entered puberty so they expect
that you will make a pass at them (so make a pass at them). If they aren't ready yet,
they are totally capable of letting you know and it doesn't kill the relationship like it
can with Western women where you are expected to read their minds     

So how direct should/can one be.

One of the most refreshing things about most FSUW is that they are direct. They don't
sit suffering in silence, angry that you didn't read their minds and determine that they
wanted X but not Y.

They will tell you exactly why they are mad in detail and they won't mope around for
three days first. I've never gotten the silent treatment by any FSUW that I've dated.
I have managed to get the opposite a number of times .

To answer your question be direct or just make a pass at her and stop worrying about
it.

[2tallbill]

Ok,

I have a question. Does anybody have a Cliff Notes version as to why
Redking is on watched status?

[ML]

Ok,

I have a question. Does anybody have a Cliff Notes version as to why
Redking is on watched status?

Because of his name.

[Gator]

Most FSUW don't have the sexual hangups that some Western women have.

Even more important, FSUW like sex, really like it.  They want to please and they want to be pleased.   Their gynecologist advises them it is healthy to have sex.   Nevertheless, I hear from my wife an occasional account of RW who have little interest in sex. 

[Gator]

eeeemmm, so how direct should/can one be.

The less talk, the better.     If she is interested in you, and her private personal situation is good, you should be feeling some vibes without having to suggest with words. 

Some FSUW may want to wait until the third date just to be sure you are not sex tourist.   And if you are meeting different women in her city, she will have much less interest. 

"Would you like to come back to my place for a glass of wine"

OK, but make sure you sense she is interested in you.   While walking with a date in her city, I asked for her help  to buy some good cheese...she led me to a good cheese shop..... later she wanted to try the cheese....so it happened. 

or  "I think you are beautiful, do you want to spend the night with me."

If you have to ask, forget it. 

[Tom_traveller]

There is another problem,  sex itself. I've met girls who like BDSM. But I categorically unacceptable this. Once I tried to change my opinion, when I was in St.Petersburg. I was at strip club, there is a pleasant interior and hot girls. This club has a stylized BDSM - room (nothing hard, just styling, imitation and game). I admired  the girls with whips, but I  felt bad,  not relax. I don't understand this.

(I found this  Zavistbar on youtube )

[msmob]

Tom

You are undoubtedly the expert on nightlife

But when sex is something you are paying for - that's all it is - a business relationship ..

This is not a 'norm' when we are surely discussing sex as part of a (hopefully) mutually symbiotic relationship - involving emotional interaction - however long-lasting - or not-  it might be