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« Reply #900 on: October 25, 2015, 07:44:49 PM »
Interesting interview with a Russian soldier in this edition of UNIAN:

http://www.unian.info/war/1160486-russian-soldier-without-russian-army-donbas-militants-would-not-last-a-month.html

He details how Russian solders are sent on "training missions" into Eastern Ukraine. Solders call these "trips." They know that is captured they will be disavowed, but are promised that if killed they will come home in caskets and be buried inside Russia.

Like so many lies promoted by the Kremlin-- perhaps they could explain to all the relatives of the "disappeared" !
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« Reply #901 on: October 26, 2015, 01:37:11 AM »
The often repeated nonsense by the Kremlin and its puppets((  plus many of the forums fools) that it was not Russian  army  in Ukraine has now been completely and utterly proven a lie.Not exactly news to most here-- but significant is the admission.
the old addage that you need to have a good memory to lie effectively is proven here-- no one gave this guy the script !


Russia said to redeploy special-ops forces from Ukraine to Syria


Russia has sent a few dozen special-operations troops to Syria in recent weeks, Russian and Western officials say, redeploying the elite units from Ukraine as the Kremlin shifts its focus to supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Russia in late September launched a campaign of airstrikes in support of Mr. Assad’s government, and President Vladimir Putin has said Russian troops won't play a role in ground combat. But Russian military experts and officials say small numbers of special-forces units—whose missions are rarely acknowledged publicly—are also on the ground in Syria.

“The special forces were pulled out of Ukraine and sent to Syria,“ a Russian Ministry of Defense official said, adding that they had been serving in territories in eastern Ukraine held by pro-Russia rebels. The official described them as “akin to a Delta Force,” the U.S. Army’s elite counterterrorism unit.

A senior Western official also said a contingent of elite Russian forces was on the ground in Syria from eastern Ukraine. A U.S. defense official said one of their roles is to provide coordination between Syrian troops and Russian aircraft conducting airstrikes in support of the regime’s ground offensive.

Russia’s Defense Ministry declined to comment on the claims. It has said that some of its military specialists are helping to advise and train Syrian government forces on the Russian-made hardware they are getting.

The Russian ministry official said the assets sent to Syria in recent weeks include the Zaslon unit, trained to protect diplomatic assets and personnel. Nearly two dozen Russian military-intelligence officers are also on site to liaise with Mr. Assad’s military intelligence, the official said.

Robert Lee, a visiting scholar at Moscow-based defense industry think tank CAST, said boots on the ground could also improve the accuracy of airstrikes. “The use of forward ground troops to draw fire from enemy positions makes the use of air power much more effective,” he said.

Moscow has a long-standing military relationship with Damascus, and some Russian special forces were present in Syria even before the air campaign began Sept. 30. Those were concentrated near Tartus where Russia has a naval installation.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/25/russia-said-to-redeploy-special-ops-forces-from-ukraine-to-syria/
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« Reply #902 on: October 26, 2015, 02:22:03 AM »
And in other news:

Donbass elections held.  International observers not allowed to observe polling.  Results:   105% of the people voted for the Russian backed separatist candidates for election.
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« Reply #903 on: October 26, 2015, 03:32:44 AM »
And in other news:

Donbass elections held.  International observers not allowed to observe polling.  Results:  105% of the people voted for the Russian backed separatist candidates for election.

Only 105%?  :cluebat:  Could they not get the other 30% out of bed on the day??  :devil:

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« Reply #904 on: October 26, 2015, 03:33:12 PM »
Only 105%?  :cluebat:  Could they not get the other 30% out of bed on the day??  :devil:

That was the day before the election that they got that result--it eased the pressure on the queues at polling stations--and saved people the trouble of going to vote. :) :)
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« Reply #905 on: November 03, 2015, 08:32:49 PM »
Not so current--but as relevant as ever today.
Fighting in the east has come to characterize Ukraine. But Ukraine’s struggle for survival and self-determination, free of corrupt governments and Russian influence is fought on many other fronts. From cyber defence to internal defence, fixing its forces to telling the truth – Ukraine faces challenges that may determine its very survival.

Patriotism continues to strengthen in Ukraine. This is required to fight all kinds of corruptions. The former pro-Russian elements were international in their corruption, not only in relationship to Russia but also Globalization issues. Ukraine currency was funneled through several European Union countries and a few outside Europe with much of it eventually going to Russia but most of it held by the pro-Russia oligarchy in Ukraine prior to the 2014 revolution. The 2014 EuroMaidan revolution in Kyiv ended the corrupt pro-Russia system with the hope of moving Ukraine to a closer relationship with all of Europe.



Ukraine: The Unseen Attacks - full documentary



http://toinformistoinfluence.com/2015/09/25/ukraine-the-unseen-attacks-full-documentary/\

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« Reply #906 on: November 10, 2015, 02:42:24 PM »
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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« Reply #907 on: November 11, 2015, 06:52:10 PM »
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Russian-separatist forces have been using children as young as 14 as front-line troops in their war against Ukraine in the Donbas – a war crime, German television reported on Nov. 10.

Reporters from the German channel ZDF’s Frontal21 news magazine said they had spoken to several child soldiers at a cadet school near Luhansk. One of the children, 16-year-old Bogdan Kravchenko, told them that he had been fighting for two years and had killed Ukrainian soldiers.


“I only killed fascists, not people. There are no people among the fascists,” Kravchenko told the German reporters, according to a press release from ZDF.

The United Nations defines a person as a child soldier if they are below the age of 18 and have been recruited “by an armed force or armed group in any capacity.”

Other children that Frontal21 spoke to described the mental trauma they had suffered due to the war. One, 16-year-old Yevgeny Shakunov, is seen in a photo shown during the report posing next to a dead Ukrainian soldier, cradling an assault rifle in his arms.

Another child soldier tracked down by Frontal21, 16-year-old Semyon Spektor, said he was in mourning for his girlfriend, Alexandra Kaplina, who was killed in action fighting for the Russian-separatists when she was only 15.


http://www.kyivpost.com/content/kyiv-post-plus/german-tv-report-russian-separatists-use-child-soldiers-in-front-line-combat-401845.html
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« Reply #908 on: November 13, 2015, 06:44:13 AM »
OSCE observers have repeatedly reported about transportation of Ukrainian coal to Russia.

http://uatoday.tv/news/osce-monitors-witness-coal-taken-from-occupied-donbas-to-russia-531867.html
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« Reply #909 on: November 14, 2015, 10:52:28 PM »
Russia's ridiculous double sided paranoia is ongoing.

Putin's Cynicism Promotes Terrorism Against Ukraine



Failing on the Ukrainian Battlefield, Russia Turns to Terrorism



To understand how Russia conducts its foreign policy, simply look at what the Kremlin accuses everyone else of doing. Unlike the Soviet Union, which operated under a coherent ideology, the Russian government under President Vladimir Putin seems to believe that everybody is a cynical power player, and that the West is simply hypocritical about it. According to this view, Western support for Ukraine has nothing to do with standing up for the values of democracy and liberty, but rather is part of a geopolitical struggle aimed against Russia. Hence the belief that the Euromaid an was a "Western plot."

This view drives the Kremlin's actions. After all, if destabilizing countries through dirty methods like plots or even terrorism is something "everyone" does, then there's nothing strange about Russia doing it as well. Putin apologists in the West, such as New York University Professor Stephen F. Cohen, often argue that Russia is an important partner in the struggle against terrorism. Ukrainians probably feel otherwise. The separatist groups Moscow is supporting in the Donas would no doubt be labeled terrorists had they tried to separate from some Russian province.

But Russia's plot hasn't worked according to plan. The separatists only control a small part of Ukrainian territory, and Russia has paid a high price in the form of economic sanctions. But even though fighting seems to have died down in the Donbas and the Russian military has turned its attention to Syria, Putin certainly hasn't forgotten about Ukraine. The country is simply too important for that.

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/failing-on-the-ukrainian-battlefield-russia-turns-to-terrorism
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« Reply #910 on: November 15, 2015, 03:21:08 PM »
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« Reply #911 on: December 13, 2015, 02:05:37 AM »

Remarks by Ambassador Samantha Power, U.S. Permanent Representative to the United Nations, at a UN Security Council Meeting on the Situation in Ukraine

We are here because Russia continues to occupy Ukraine’s autonomous region of Crimea, in defiance of international law, in defiance of its treaty obligations, the Helsinki Final Act, and the resolution passed by 100 members of the UN General Assembly that rejected the phony Crimea referendum and that called for Ukraine’s territorial integrity to be respected. Its authorities there have opened criminal cases against critics of the occupation and specifically targeted the Tatar community, subjecting them to beatings, arbitrary detentions, and police raids.

http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/statements/power-12112015.html
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« Reply #912 on: December 13, 2015, 02:36:12 AM »
I detect a lot of 'because I can' in international politics on many sides, both international and domestic.

One must not forget that the UN, many treaties and even the US Constitution are simply guiding tools and not absolutes.. such contracts may be breached, interpreted otherwise or simply ignored.

It's the way it was, is and always be.

'because I can' is what really counts in the end.




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« Reply #913 on: December 13, 2015, 09:30:36 AM »
I detect a lot of 'because I can' in international politics on many sides, both international and domestic.

One must not forget that the UN, many treaties and even the US Constitution are simply guiding tools and not absolutes.. such contracts may be breached, interpreted otherwise or simply ignored.

It's the way it was, is and always be.

'because I can' is what really counts in the end.


Agree...and the US is very guilty of this, so to listen to us condemn others on moral grounds, raises an eyebrow to say the least.


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« Reply #914 on: December 13, 2015, 01:32:21 PM »
BC, you are seriously wrong in one respect as the US Constitution is not merely a guide. Try actually reading it--there is the language of absolutes throughout the document, and detailed steps needed to change any of those absolutes.

You are right, however, when it comes to a serious overreach in foreign affairs. There is, as you say, much of "Because I can" in how things operate.

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« Reply #915 on: December 16, 2015, 03:55:08 PM »
NATO Nations No Longer Question Need for Alliance
By STEVEN ERLANGER New York Times


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« Reply #916 on: December 16, 2015, 03:56:43 PM »
Shelby uses Capitol Hill clout to end Russian rocket engine ban
and help Alabama workers


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« Reply #917 on: December 16, 2015, 04:00:33 PM »
War In Europe: Why The Army Is Worried
Loren Thompson Forbes

Ever since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and seized control of Crimea, Pentagon
planners have been trying to figure out how they could cope with further land grabs
by Moscow.  Their greatest concern is that Russia will move on the three small Baltic
states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania — the only former provinces of the Soviet
Union that have joined the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and that
other alliance members are therefore obligated to defend.  Internal Pentagon
estimates suggest Russia’s military could occupy the Baltic states in 2-3 days
— well before NATO could organize a coherent response.

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« Reply #918 on: December 16, 2015, 04:02:49 PM »
Poll: Most Russians want to see Ukraine independent
Third of respondents would like Ukraine to be under political and economic
control of Russia


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« Reply #919 on: December 16, 2015, 04:05:53 PM »
Stick to Sanctions on Russia
New York Times Opinion By ANDREW FOXALL

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« Reply #920 on: March 13, 2016, 11:40:23 PM »
Well-known Russian journalist Alexander centurion described the essence of the fascist regime, built by Putin in Russia nowadays.

Putin has created the worst form of fascism in Russia



http://www.amn.com.ua/blogy/putyn-sozdal-v-rossyy-nayhudshuyu-formu-fashyzma-rossyjskyj-zhurnalyst/
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« Reply #921 on: March 27, 2016, 02:41:51 PM »


The city Khartsyzsk Donetsk region, local residents beat Russian soldier, who drunk mined private yard and demanded a ransom for demining.

Residents beat Russian soldier who mined private yard -
"growing dissatisfaction of the population temporarily occupied areas of Donbas presence and actions of the Russian occupation troops. March 26 village Khartsyzsk soldier of the 7th separate motorized rifle brigade (Debaltseve) 2nd Army Corps (Lugansk) forces Russian sergeant Vladimir Putilin in a state of extreme intoxication
: http://www.unian/1301439-u-hartsizku-jiteli-pobili-rosiyskogo-soldata-yakiy-zaminuvav-privatniy-dvir-rozvidka.ht.ua/war/1301439-u-hartsizku-jiteli-pobili-rosiyskogo-soldata-yakiy-zaminuvav-privatniy-dvir-rozvidka.html

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« Reply #922 on: June 03, 2016, 09:50:17 PM »
Some writers have the ability to state clearly and not get issues confused-while this aricle was not written recently-- it has good summaries and explanations of much that is immediately current.
"Behind Russia’s confrontation with the West lies a clash of ideas. On one side are human rights, an accountable bureaucracy and democratic elections; on the other an unconstrained state that can sacrifice its citizens’ interests to further its destiny or satisfy its rulers’ greed."

From cold war to hot war

And more-
"Russia has taken to arguing that it is not fighting Ukraine, but America in Ukraine. The Ukrainian army is just a foreign legion of NATO, and American soldiers are killing Russian proxies in the Donbas. Anti-Americanism is not only the reason for war and the main pillar of state power, but also an ideology that Russia is trying to export to Europe, as it once exported communism."

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21643220-russias-aggression-ukraine-part-broader-and-more-dangerous-confrontation
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« Reply #923 on: June 04, 2016, 01:48:27 AM »
Another article  that is not far off the mark and worth reading-

Putin’s plan: ruin Europe before its sanctions kill Russia
The most effective way Putin’s regime can avoid collapse is by causing the EU to collapse sooner. An EU that is coming apart at the seams will not be able to maintain the sanctions it imposed on Russia following its incursion into Ukraine. On the contrary, Putin will be able to gain considerable economic benefits from dividing Europe and exploiting the connections with commercial interests and anti-European parties that he has carefully cultivated.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/putins-plan-ruin-europe-before-its-sanctions-kill-russia/news-story/10bf3360a4d86c21707ed176a63687b4?nk=8154d6d9438df91f32d7594ca712441a-1465029747

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/11/putin-threat-europe-islamic-state
« Last Edit: June 04, 2016, 01:50:05 AM by JayH »
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #924 on: June 04, 2016, 04:04:26 AM »
Some writers have the ability to state clearly and not get issues confused-while this aricle was not written recently-- it has good summaries and explanations of much that is immediately current.
"Behind Russia’s confrontation with the West lies a clash of ideas. On one side are human rights, an accountable bureaucracy and democratic elections; on the other an unconstrained state that can sacrifice its citizens’ interests to further its destiny or satisfy its rulers’ greed."

From cold war to hot war

And more-
"Russia has taken to arguing that it is not fighting Ukraine, but America in Ukraine. The Ukrainian army is just a foreign legion of NATO, and American soldiers are killing Russian proxies in the Donbas. Anti-Americanism is not only the reason for war and the main pillar of state power, but also an ideology that Russia is trying to export to Europe, as it once exported communism."

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21643220-russias-aggression-ukraine-part-broader-and-more-dangerous-confrontation

Jay, that article was published well over a year ago, and I'm that I saw it posted on here at some earlier time.

 

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