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« Reply #4700 on: May 16, 2016, 07:37:21 AM »

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« Reply #4701 on: May 16, 2016, 07:52:19 AM »
Recession not going away any time soon for Russia...  :popcorn:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/morgan-stanley-on-the-state-of-the-russian-economy-2016-5?r=US&IR=T


This is partly why TP's assertions on how sanctions have not hurt Russia, but are hitting its Western trading partners, are laughable.


Russia has a GDP less than 1/3 of that of any of its Western trading partners.   The main industries affected are oil and gas, which would have taken a hit in any event, and food at a little more than $8 billion, really, a drop in the bucket for the EU.
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« Reply #4702 on: May 16, 2016, 12:55:41 PM »
Bad Vlad held a demonstration of a new Russian military truck in sochi. He tried to open the passenger side door but it wouldn't budge. Lt. General shevchenko came to assist him and pulled mightily on the door handle, which came off in his hands.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/05/14/potemkin-villages

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« Reply #4703 on: May 16, 2016, 01:02:38 PM »
Bad Vlad held a demonstration of a new Russian military truck in sochi. He tried to open the passenger side door but it wouldn't budge. Lt. General shevchenko came to assist him and pulled mightily on the door handle, which came off in his hands.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/05/14/potemkin-villages


Moby did it!   :clapping:  Supposedly there's a video on UTUBE.    ;D Or it maybe just a rumor.. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #4704 on: May 16, 2016, 05:41:18 PM »
Ahhh The thrill is gone.. The newness has worn off.

 Russians aren't interested in vacation travel to Krym. The Moscow Times reports that there is a 25% drop in tourism.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/crimea-sees-sharp-drop-in-russian-tourists/569608.html

Earlier they had reported about Russians reducing their travel abroad by 30%. It seems that times are tough and moneys tight. It seems to me that they'd rather spend for food.

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« Reply #4705 on: May 17, 2016, 06:02:22 PM »
Krim residents stealing sand from the beaches by the truck load...

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-36314586

You know the economy is officially in the gutter when people have to resort to stealing sand to use as free building material.  :popcorn:

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« Reply #4706 on: May 17, 2016, 06:28:08 PM »
Krim residents stealing sand from the beaches by the truck load...

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-36314586

You know the economy is officially in the gutter when people have to resort to stealing sand to use as free building material.  :popcorn:

Maybe Ukrainian sand tastes better than Russian dirt  ! :)
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #4707 on: May 18, 2016, 01:09:01 AM »

A month after Vladimir Putin's big live call-in show.( Despite some of our "experts" here telling us all is well !!) it seems some of the participants aren't exactly doing so well.


The Tsar Has No Clothes



http://www.rferl.org/content/daily-vertical-transcript-tsar-has-no-clothes/27740298.html
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #4708 on: May 18, 2016, 03:12:32 AM »
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes:   Ewww! Who'd want to see a naked dwarf?  :tmi: :tmi:

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« Reply #4709 on: May 21, 2016, 02:12:14 AM »
Ozzie lawyers have filed a 10 Million (each) lawsuit against the Huilomesier and Russia in the European Court of Human Rights for the families of the victims of Flight MH17 that was shot down by a Russian BUK missile.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-mh-idUSKCN0YC06P

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« Reply #4710 on: May 24, 2016, 10:36:41 AM »
Russia can't pay pensioners in Krym. They're broke, no money.  :rolleyes: 

http://en.sobytiya.info/russian-prime-minister-explained-pensioners-in-crimea-that-there-was-no-money.html

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« Reply #4711 on: May 24, 2016, 10:40:51 AM »
Hmmm...

Inaccurate to the point of deliberate deceit?!

Can't index pensions..

Your 'headline'  suggests no pensions are being paid at all.

Please excuse the Curmudgeon in my posts ..he will be cured by being reunited with his loved one ;)

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« Reply #4712 on: May 24, 2016, 11:01:51 AM »
It says in Krym.. It doesn't say throughout Russia.  :wallbash: 

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« Reply #4713 on: May 24, 2016, 12:31:16 PM »
There are lies, bigger lies, and then there are Russian lies.   :rolleyes:

Russian state TV recently was caught red handed with fake reporting by French media.  :wallbash:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/french-tv-exposes-fake-russian-news-report/570053.html

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« Reply #4714 on: May 24, 2016, 07:30:08 PM »
It says in Krym.. It doesn't say throughout Russia.  :wallbash:

Nice 'try' at deflecting your latest 'misinfo'

You told us ..

Russia can't pay pensioners in Krym. They're broke, no money.

It can and is ... it isn't index linking them - taking into account inflation

Why can't you post the truth? 'Gilding the lilly' just means you're posts won't get the attention you seek ...
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« Reply #4715 on: May 24, 2016, 07:48:56 PM »
Read what it says.. Russia is not paying pensions in Krym.. It has no money to pay the pensions..

Why is that so hard for you to understand?  :cluebat:

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« Reply #4716 on: May 24, 2016, 07:58:32 PM »
They must have "shot their wad" on that extension cord and the "maybe someday" bridge from nowhere?

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« Reply #4717 on: May 24, 2016, 08:19:16 PM »
Read what it says..

Quite..

Russia is not paying pensions in Krym..

Not true... 2nd time ..Follow your own advice..

It has no money to pay the pensions..

Why is that so hard for you to understand?  :cluebat:

You will 'get it', soon .. He says there is no money to INDEX pensions - not to not pay them at all  :welcome:
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« Reply #4718 on: May 24, 2016, 08:36:27 PM »
Mike, here is what I see from the article.

According to the Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, pensions will not be indexed due to lack of funds.

Medvedev said about this, answering questions during his visit to Crimea.

One of the pensioners began to complain loudly the Premiere about 8 thousand rubles of pension (about 120 dollars) not sufficient for living standards in Crimea, due to “the outrageous prices.” “What is 8 thousand now? It’s nothing!” she flew into a rage and complained that there was no pension indexation in Crimea.

Medvedev replied that indexation is not carried out anywhere else in Russia. “We can’t do it in one place only. There is no indexation.

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It's the incomplete headline that is misleading.  Medvedev's actual words spoke there was no money for increasing (indexing) the pension payments to people in Crimea or anywhere in Russia.

The headline should  have more directly said this rather than short-cutting it by saying there was 'no money' rather than saying there was no money to finance increases.
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« Reply #4719 on: May 24, 2016, 08:38:08 PM »
The end results is that they're not paid in full.  Because they don't have the cash!

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« Reply #4720 on: May 25, 2016, 03:19:28 AM »
The end results is that they're not paid in full.  Because they don't have the cash!

Sighs..


Why don't you READ the article more than once ....before posting nonsense...then when others point out your howler...you get uppety....

They ARE being paid in full..

The point is...it's not enough....taking into account inflation...particularly in Crimea.

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« Reply #4721 on: May 25, 2016, 03:32:26 AM »
Sighs..

Moby... trying to engage a rock is a useless endeavor.

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« Reply #4722 on: May 25, 2016, 08:05:04 AM »
Ukraine doesn't index pensions either, so the Crimeans are no worse off.
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« Reply #4723 on: May 25, 2016, 08:08:33 AM »
Does anyone know the relative value of the pensions paid in Ukraine compared to the pensions paid in Russia?  It would be interesting to know. 

Also, how much is the inflation in Krim compared to when the Russians took over?
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« Reply #4724 on: May 25, 2016, 12:10:29 PM »

 

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