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« Reply #4925 on: June 10, 2016, 09:37:30 PM »
Bloomberg has an interesting take on the upcoming political situation in Russia.  The Duma and Putin's Cabinet are betting blamed for the lack of funds going around.

"Putin's Core Support Begins to Waver"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-09/putin-s-core-support-begins-to-waver

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« Reply #4926 on: June 11, 2016, 12:36:24 AM »
And as usual you can't stomach the message so you attack the messenger.. :cluebat:

 Yup, we see how you are too.

Mikey, babes ..

Do you seriously think Sharapova's extreme lack of judgement ...she never listed taking the drug - when it was allowed - she said taking it for heart condition -  is 'bad news'  for Russia  ;D ?

She lives in the USA and her Manager / Agent - who claims to be at fault - is hardly Russian, either ...

What I see is someone who is lazy about checking stuff - as the Sharapova case includes many westerners ..







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« Reply #4927 on: June 11, 2016, 01:19:33 AM »
Doping in sports continues in Russia. Wow.. after all the news about it they still persist.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-is-still-doping-german-documentary-claims/571534.html

More charges.

 http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/former-anti-doping-lab-head-accuses-more-russian-athletes-of-doping/571672.html6

And finally "Russia's Maria Sharapova Banned From Tennis"

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russias-maria-sharapova-banned-from-tennis/571582.html

 It's a typical way of doing things in Russia.  Such amature tactics with banned coaches right along side the athletes. All caught on video, and the child-like level of excuses and silly attempts to explain it all away start flowing. 
 Putin enacts a plan with no thought what happens when it goes off the rails. It doesn't seem to matter if it's a submarine, a nuclear reactor, or some doped up athletes.  The end result is always the same, ridiculous reasons always proven false, and blame the west. The ones who bully Russia.  It's a one ring circus inside Red Square.

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« Reply #4928 on: June 11, 2016, 01:32:16 AM »
Hi Don

Actually meeting some Olympic athletes - sailing - I am sure there are athletes who are clean and are happy to be tested.

I cannot stand the Pole-Vaulter - Elena Isinbayeva - her homophobic attitude - but if she is clean - when should she be banned for the actions of others ?
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« Reply #4929 on: June 12, 2016, 10:08:27 AM »
Quite contrary to the 'peaches and cream' that others show as going on in Russia...

It's tough for the average citizen to have quality in their everyday lives with the pinch being felt at all levels.

"Just how bad is Russian economy?” and other neglected Russian Stories"
http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/11/just-how-bad-is-russian-economy-and-other-neglected-russian-stories/

http://www.interpretermag.com/june-10-2016/




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« Reply #4930 on: June 12, 2016, 10:18:46 AM »
The Russian "Fans" that have been running amok at the Euro soccer matches probably will cause more economic hurt for Russia.

"DW: Russia likely to be fined by UEFA after Euro violence in Marseille"

 Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/world/1373089-dw-russia-likely-to-be-fined-by-uefa-after-euro-violence-in-marseille.html

"Russians Are Struggling to Afford Medication"
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/business/article/russians-are-struggling-to-afford-medication/571599.html
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« Reply #4931 on: June 12, 2016, 01:31:45 PM »
Gazeta.ru, hardly a friend to Ukraine reports that the 'breakaway republics' are in serious economic trouble.

 The major industries of the region, the two big steel plants Donetsk and Alchevsk have stopped and the coke plant is damaged and out of business for a while.


http:/www.gazeta.ru/politics/2016/06/09_a_8295857.shtml

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« Reply #4932 on: June 12, 2016, 11:16:11 PM »
Quite contrary to the 'peaches and cream' that others show as going on in Russia...

Did ANYONE bother to read AKAMike's 'bad news'?  People who've actually shopped for bread, bought alcohol or wonder what Tajikistan's TB problems has to do with Russia?

The infamous Ketch Bridge os STILL being built...

For sure, everyday Russians are tightening their belts and less travel abroad... but the moment the Russians tell my 'missus' that she cannot leave.... I will let you know.




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« Reply #4933 on: June 13, 2016, 07:40:14 PM »
Has anyone noticed how this poser pretends to know all that is possible to know about Russia yet rubs elbows with the rich oligarchs at the yacht club in the resort area of Sochi?
Hardly a man on the street view of life under the oppression of the Kremlin or suffering from the economic sanctions at the ground level.

 He can't attack a news source of repute that goes against the Kremlin's propaganda since it much more true than Pravada, Sputnik, RT Vice ect.  Every other Russian news source is a propaganda outlet aimed at creating a reality rather than reflecting it.


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« Reply #4934 on: June 13, 2016, 08:05:49 PM »
His partner lives in Sochi.  Not everyone who lives there is an oligarch. :)
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« Reply #4935 on: June 13, 2016, 11:23:08 PM »
He can't attack a news source of repute that goes against the Kremlin's propaganda since it much more true than Pravada, Sputnik, RT Vice ect.  Every other Russian news source is a propaganda outlet aimed at creating a reality rather than reflecting it.

Usually a balanced view can only be derived using sources from all sides.

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« Reply #4936 on: June 13, 2016, 11:46:08 PM »
Has anyone noticed how this poser pretends to know all that is possible to know about Russia yet rubs elbows with the rich oligarchs at the yacht club in the resort area of Sochi?


WHAT Oligarchs ....????  I got  into the sailing scene  via Boris - who works for Russian Railways- and earns pin money skippering Yachts....:D


Really, Mikey- is this the standard of your 'ripostes' and investigative 'research' ?

According to Mikey I'm a Putin Lover and in another place a Russo-phobe who's'working illegally' and shouldn't have his visa renewed  :popcorn:

Hardly a man on the street view of life under the oppression of the Kremlin or suffering from the economic sanctions at the ground level.

Based on your 'evidence' on my 'contacts'   ?  :puke:


He can't attack a news source of repute that goes against the Kremlin's propaganda since it much more true than Pravada, Sputnik, RT Vice ect.  Every other Russian news source is a propaganda outlet aimed at creating a reality rather than reflecting it.

What I want to see is factual reporting and - unlike you - I HAVE seen the reality, tasted the bread, etc., and whilst I agree that a lot of reports on Russian TV are 'naughty' - in what they leave out / emphasise  - or promoting disharmony in - say -Ukraine [ the UNHCR's words from Feb 2014 ]  I'll also point out when stuff isn't factual from UA or western media.

Now, any time you want to deal with my points - regarding the inaccuracy / irrelevancy of some of your 'bad news'  - rather than making risible comments about my 'contacts' .... you'll be welcome.



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« Reply #4937 on: June 13, 2016, 11:57:57 PM »
Usually a balanced view can only be derived using sources from all sides.

The problem with that is that you ( and a small minority) deny the obvious conclusions from overwhelming evidence- and views of others. Being obtuse for the sake of it  and in denial of the obvious.

Upthread-- the OSCE reports were quoted-- in isolation.If you and others actually read these on a regular basis-- a very cl;ear pattern exists.

Previously-Ukraine has expressed concern about Russians being appointed to OSCE- for obvious reasons.
Now this-

The Russian media went into an orgy of lying which was gross enough to be picked up by the international media.  The latter unfortunately ignored the fact that the same lies about 400 bodies, many raped and tortured, were coming not only from Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, but also the Russian Investigative Committee.  At around that time, the Investigative Committee had even produced their very own Ukrainian ‘war criminal’ Serhiy Lytvynov whom they – and the Russian media – displayed ‘confessing’ to horrific war crimes.  Lytvynov had been seized and tortured into confessing to raping and murdering woman and children who quite simply had never existed.  When this was proven, Russia came up with a cynically implausible ‘robbery charge’ on which Lytvynov was recently sentenced to 8.5 years’ imprisonment.

Russian OSCE Appointee Implicated in Russia’s Fake Crimea Referendum & War Propaganda

Vladislav Grib, recently appointed a personal representative to the OSCE’s Chairperson-in-Office was directly involved in rubberstamping the scam ‘referendum’ used by Russia to try to justify its invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014.   His new appointment as personal representative “on combating racism, xenophobia and discrimination”, etc. seems especially inappropriate given his part in warmongering lies in September 2014 which grossly distorted information provided by the OSCE Observer Mission in Ukraine

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« Reply #4938 on: June 14, 2016, 12:00:46 AM »

WHAT Oligarchs ....????  I got  into the sailing scene  via Boris - who works for Russian Railways- and earns pin money skippering Yachts....:D


Really, Mikey- is this the standard of your 'ripostes' and investigative 'research' ?



Do you get a joke? In this case-- a non serious comment.
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« Reply #4939 on: June 14, 2016, 12:04:34 AM »
Do you get a joke? In this case-- a non serious comment.

The 'danger' of assuming one's emotion / intent will be perceived ... ;)
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« Reply #4940 on: June 14, 2016, 12:10:31 AM »
The problem with that is that you ( and a small minority) deny the obvious conclusions from overwhelming evidence- and views of others. Being obtuse for the sake of it  and in denial of the obvious.

Upthread-- the OSCE reports were quoted-- in isolation.If you and others actually read these on a regular basis-- a very clear pattern exists.

JayH - Russia is a member of the Council of Europe and can appoint who-ever she likes - and you can point out their past...

As for the OSCE links - that you might suggest  - if taken in isolation - could misrepresent ...they were countering your contentions.

Kyiv agreed to the terms and conditions of Minsk II and the OSCE simply report what they see / encounter

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« Reply #4941 on: June 16, 2016, 02:16:13 PM »

  Or could it be soccer team fan problems?

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  • Russia gets suspended ban for violence
  • Its team could still be disqualified
  • "Serious concerns" about stadium security
  • UK to deploy more police to France
On Tuesday, Russia was handed a suspended ban from Euro 2016 and could still be thrown out of the tournament if there is more trouble from its traveling fans.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/14/football/euro-2016-russia-ban-violence-news/
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« Reply #4942 on: June 17, 2016, 02:29:41 AM »
Maybe if they take their shoes off they will be able to count past ten !! :)
Russian media quoted the minister of construction, acknowledged that the Kerch bridge too complicated for Russia. According to him, construction of the bridge "was harder than they thought," reports Joinfo.ua.

" However, at this point, all work disrupted due to lack of funds. "

The Kremlin has recognized that the construction of the bridge Kerch was "too complicated" for the Russian Federation



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« Reply #4943 on: June 17, 2016, 07:26:15 AM »
The EU just told that sanctions against Russia would be extended another year for stealing Crimea.   :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2016/06/17-annexation-crimea-sevastopol-eu-extends-sanctions/

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« Reply #4944 on: June 17, 2016, 09:47:48 AM »
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Russia’s Track and Field Team Barred From Rio Olympics  By REBECCA R. RUIZJUNE 17, 2016
   Continue reading the main story Share This Page      In recent weeks, Olympians have called on sports officials to conduct further investigations into the extent of the cheating of which Russia has been accused.  Credit David J. Phillip/Associated Press           Russia’s track and field team has been barred from competing in this summer’s Rio Games because of a far-reaching doping conspiracy, an extraordinary punishment that might be without precedent in Olympics history.
The global governing body for track and field, known as the I.A.A.F., announced the decision on Friday, ruling in a unanimous vote that Russia had not done enough to restore global confidence in the integrity of its athletes.
The International Olympic Committee, the ultimate authority over the Games, is due to discuss the decision on Tuesday. If Olympics officials were to amend the ruling against Russia, it would be an unusual move, as they have historically deferred to the governing bodies for specific sports.
The Russian ministry of sport said in a statement on Friday that it was  extremely disappointed adding:  We now appeal to the members of the International Olympic Committee to not only consider the impact that our athletes’ exclusion will have on their dreams and the people of Russia, but also that the Olympics themselves will be diminished by their absence........................


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« Reply #4945 on: June 17, 2016, 03:59:49 PM »
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But individual athletes can compete as neutrals if they prove they are clean.
Meanwhile, Russian pole vaulter Yelena Isinbayeva said she would challenge the IAAF's decision in court, claiming it was "a human rights violation".
Isinbayeva, 34, who won Olympic gold in 2004 and 2008, added: "I'm disappointed and angry. I am offended. Nobody defended us.
"Nobody fought for our rights and there are huge concerns over the IAAF itself and its stance on defending the rights of clean athletes.

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« Reply #4946 on: June 17, 2016, 06:22:15 PM »
It's ironic that the Russian pole vaulter Yelena Isinbayeva, starts crying about human rights violations considering her countries stance against Ukrainian Tartars.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #4947 on: June 17, 2016, 06:50:32 PM »
It's ironic that the Russian pole vaulter Yelena Isinbayeva, starts crying about human rights violations considering her countries stance against Ukrainian Tartars.  :rolleyes:


isn't it also ironic that the US chastises other nations like Russia for interfering when (according to Trump) we have been supporting al qeada, and who knows for sure what else?


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« Reply #4948 on: June 17, 2016, 07:23:20 PM »
It's ironic that the Russian pole vaulter Yelena Isinbayeva, starts crying about human rights violations considering her countries stance against Ukrainian Tartars.  :rolleyes:


Most athletes are hardly aware of human rights violations by countries.  I doubt Ms Isinbayeva is aware of the plight of Crimean Tatars.

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« Reply #4949 on: June 18, 2016, 01:17:19 AM »
This really illustrates how BAD THE NEWS REALLY IN IN RUSSIA..
The sheer degree of the of the sham Putin still attempts to promote- and a series of illogical results as a conclusion is amazing.


Russia’s Putin slams West over backing 'coup d'etat' in Ukraine

Russian President Vladimir Putin has strongly criticized the West's support for 'a coup d'etat' in Ukraine in 2014, blaming it for the bloodshed that plagued the country.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/06/17/470910/Russia-Putin-Ukraine-coup-detat

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Peter3 hours ago
Pres.Putin is the most humble, down to earth, God fearing and a simple man. He is not arrogant when others try to bully and honk him all because he takes the suppressed and oppressed peoples side. He needs peoples protection and support.

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What the thieves fear most is the truth and nothing but the truth. Russia is such a vast country with less population and it does not need others land other than to protect it's borders. Many ex Soviet countries have Russian natives and Russia protects them.
Pres.Putin is a real leader, a statesman, a peace maker, a patient man, a gentleman and a scholar. He needs respect from the world.
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