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« Reply #1550 on: January 08, 2015, 11:49:40 AM »
That was very good AC!
Thanks

Ochen Horosho.  No problem, I thought it was an outstanding profile of just one courageous yet opportunistic young man, led astray by the dogs of war.
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« Reply #1551 on: January 08, 2015, 11:55:51 AM »
It'll be interesting to see how the local 'vatniks' will spin this news. :D :D

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« Reply #1552 on: January 08, 2015, 11:59:47 AM »
It'll be interesting to see how the local 'vatniks' will spin this news. :D :D
Actually pretty simple. Such videos always remind me of the videos we see from Iran or Iraq wehre America or British prisoners are giving interviews and read declarations.
No self-respecting country would seriously post such video, instead if true such information should come from an official trial.
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« Reply #1553 on: January 08, 2015, 12:03:00 PM »
Ah the first one!

Don't bother to read the text just look at the pictures..

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« Reply #1554 on: January 08, 2015, 12:05:08 PM »
Ah the first one!

Don't bother to read the text just look at the pictures..
I can not help that you are living in a society where Hollywood is producing documentaries like Transformers. ;D
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« Reply #1555 on: January 08, 2015, 01:04:21 PM »
And yet it was you that didn't read just look at the pictures.. Hmmmm

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« Reply #1556 on: January 08, 2015, 01:27:12 PM »
And yet it was you that didn't read just look at the pictures.. Hmmmm
Very simple. I am not impressed by video's that violate the rights of humans, nor by sob stories by journalists. In fact they may simply be related in a combined fictional effort.
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« Reply #1557 on: January 08, 2015, 01:35:51 PM »
Taping an interrogation of a terrorist/soldier is hardly a violation of human rights.. Get Real!

 

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« Reply #1558 on: January 08, 2015, 02:00:30 PM »
Taping an interrogation of a terrorist/soldier is hardly a violation of human rights.. Get Real!

Belvis, Doll and Shadow all live in a bizarre alternate Universe of their own creation (or more precisely created by the Putin professional propagandists).  Arguing with them is a waste of time, except that somebody without knowledge sitting on the fence might be lulled by their conspiracy theories and denials.

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« Reply #1559 on: January 08, 2015, 02:58:55 PM »
Taping an interrogation of a terrorist/soldier is hardly a violation of human rights.. Get Real!
So you believe that the Youtube videos put up by IS are not violiting the rights of those people shown at all? And of course their declarations are fully and completely accurate and true.
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« Reply #1560 on: January 08, 2015, 03:07:42 PM »
So you believe that the Youtube videos put up by IS are not violiting the rights of those people shown at all? And of course their declarations are fully and completely accurate and true.


According to Doll, they are all fake. Youtube, you know.
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« Reply #1561 on: January 08, 2015, 06:20:16 PM »
The journalist, Joshua Yaffa, did a very credible job, and for those who are not of sufficient intelligence to dare to read something that might challenge cherished beliefs, the writer presented both sides of several of the events described.

He is an accredited journalist by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and lives in Moscow. His status as a journalist with the Russian government is what allowed him to go where he went and see what he observed. To write crap or fluff would be an open invitation to be kicked out of the country. It would not be a stretch to say that he rubs shoulders from time to time with folk like Sergei Lavrov, Sergei Ivanov, the always engaging Dmitry Peskov, and others. Joshua writes for a variety of publications, some liberal and others conservative, including The Economist, The New York Times, Bloomberg, Foreign Affairs, and The New Republic.

His report falls in line generally with other stories in the Rostov area. Some of these fighters were recruited prior getting out of the military, and some of them were unemployed ex-military before taking their personal tanks and anti aircraft missile systems for a holiday across the border. Many of them have criminal backgrounds and/or few ties back home, thus being "expendable."
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« Reply #1562 on: January 08, 2015, 06:36:20 PM »
They're still human beings . . .

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« Reply #1563 on: January 08, 2015, 06:40:51 PM »
Actually pretty simple. Such videos always remind me of the videos we see from Iran or Iraq wehre America or British prisoners are giving interviews and read declarations.
No self-respecting country would seriously post such video, instead if true such information should come from an official trial.

I agree with Shadow that the video is a violation of human rights.  (I had read this article earlier.)  I also believe that water boarding is violating human rights.

But, being in a grey area, here, I can see that some such information may be used to save lives.  I also believe, that were Russians presented with such a problem of human rights violations, there would be no hesitation.
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« Reply #1564 on: January 09, 2015, 12:18:12 AM »
How about the human rights of the Ukrainian victims that have been invaded, murdered and run out of their peaceful home and towns by these invaders?

Give them  the first bit of compassion before worrying about the dregs of Russia.

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« Reply #1565 on: January 09, 2015, 02:31:19 AM »
Putin and his band of thieves can't drive under their new law!  :D


Russia says drivers must not have 'sex disorders'

Russia has listed transsexual and transgender people among those who will no longer qualify for driving licences.

Fetishism, exhibitionism and voyeurism are also included as "mental disorders" now barring people from driving.

The government says it is tightening medical controls for drivers because Russia has too many road accidents.

"Pathological" gambling and compulsive stealing are also on the list. Russian psychiatrists and human rights lawyers have condemned the move.

The announcement follows international complaints about Russian harassment of gay-rights activists.

In 2013 Russia made "promoting non-traditional lifestyles" illegal.

Valery Evtushenko at the Russian Psychiatric Association voiced concern about the driving restrictions, speaking to the BBC Russian Service. He said some people would avoid seeking psychiatric help, fearing a driving ban.

The Association of Russian Lawyers for Human Rights called the new law "discriminatory". It said it would demand clarifications from the Russian Constitutional Court and seek support from international human rights organisations.

But the Professional Drivers Union supported the move. "We have too many deaths on the road, and I believe toughening medical requirements for applicants is fully justified," said the union's head Alexander Kotov.

However, he said the requirements should not be so strict for non-professional drivers.

Mikhail Strakhov, a Russian psychiatric expert, told BBC Russian that the definition of "personality disorders" was too vague and some disorders would not affect a person's ability to drive a car safely.




http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30735673

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« Reply #1566 on: January 09, 2015, 02:41:28 AM »

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« Reply #1567 on: January 09, 2015, 02:48:34 AM »
See what?

 The article above that I showed the link to?

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« Reply #1568 on: January 09, 2015, 04:41:37 AM »
See what?

 The article above that I showed the link to?
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Fetishism, exhibitionism and voyeurism are also included as "mental disorders" now barring people from driving.

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« Reply #1569 on: January 09, 2015, 08:11:34 AM »
Oh Boy.. :(



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« Reply #1570 on: January 09, 2015, 09:02:42 AM »
Oh Boy.. :(
\Again- where do you see all this stuff that you posted before?
Here is this law
http://government.ru/media/files/A5X9GSAYrpA.pdf

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« Reply #1571 on: January 09, 2015, 09:04:58 AM »
ПРАВИТЕЛЬСТВО РОССИЙСКОЙ ФЕДЕРАЦИИ
П О С Т А Н О В Л Е Н И Е
от 29 декабря 2014 г. № 1604
МОСКВА
О перечнях медицинских противопоказаний, медицинских показаний и медицинских ограничений к управлению транспортным средством
В соответствии с пунктом 4 статьи 231 Федерального закона "О безопасности дорожного движения" Правительство Российской Федерации п о с т а н о в л я е т :
Утвердить прилагаемые:
перечень медицинских противопоказаний к управлению транспортным средством;
перечень медицинских показаний к управлению транспортным средством;
перечень медицинских ограничений к управлению транспортным средством.
Председатель Правительства
Российской Федерации Д.Медведев
УТВЕРЖДЕН
постановлением Правительства
Российской Федерации
от 29 декабря 2014 г. № 1604
П Е Р Е Ч Е Н Ь
медицинских противопоказаний
к управлению транспортным средством
Наименование заболевания
Код заболевания по МКБ-10*
I. Психические расстройства и расстройства поведения (при наличии хронических и затяжных психических расстройств с тяжелыми стойкими или часто обостряющимися болезненными проявлениями)
1. Органические, включая симптоматические, психические расстройства
F00 - F09
2. Шизофрения, шизотипические и бредовые расстройства
F20 - F29
3. Расстройства настроения (аффективные расстройства)
F30 - F39
4. Невротические, связанные со стрессом и соматоформные расстройства
F40 - F48
5. Расстройства личности и поведения в зрелом возрасте
F60 - F69
6. Умственная отсталость
F70 - F79
II. Психические расстройства и расстройства поведения, связанные с употреблением психоактивных веществ (до прекращения диспансерного наблюдения в связи со стойкой ремиссией (выздоровлением)
7. Психические расстройства и расстройства поведения, связанные с употреблением психоактивных веществ
F10 - F16, F18, F19
2
Наименование заболевания
Код заболевания по МКБ-10*
III. Болезни нервной системы
8. Эпилепсия
G40
IV. Болезни глаза и его придаточного аппарата
9. Ахроматопсия
Н53.51
10. Слепота обоих глаз
H54.0
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* Международная статистическая классификация болезней и проблем, связанных со здоровьем (10-й пересмотр).
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« Reply #1572 on: January 09, 2015, 11:57:04 AM »
Translate it into the dominate language of this forum.


ENGLISH!
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« Reply #1573 on: January 09, 2015, 12:05:57 PM »
Translate it into the dominate language of this forum.


ENGLISH!
I don't have to.
You posted about this law- I gave you the link.
There is NOTHING in it about any sexual minorities.

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« Reply #1574 on: January 09, 2015, 01:03:35 PM »
Then take it up with the BBC.. They recently hired some Russians reporters fleeing the food shortages in a collapsing economy that were highly trained at Pravda, RT ect.  :crackwhip:
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