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« on: May 20, 2017, 01:39:50 PM »
Hello, I'm planning my first trip to the Ukraine for the last week of July!
My plan is to visit Kharkiv and utilize Mila as my guide. Any tips or advise would be appreciated. Even ideas of which airlines or routes work best.
Thanks for any help
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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2017, 02:19:45 PM »
Kharkiv has direct flights from Warsaw using LOT Polish Airlines and from Istanbul using Turkish Airlines. Check if they fly every day of the week or just a few days a week. Ukrainian International Airlines flies out of JFK to Kiev and then you can connect to Kharkiv. Don't know where you are in the US. You can fly LOT out of Chicago and New York (JFK). Turkish flies out of West Coast and JFK to Istanbul. Check their website for other routes. I would fly LOT over Turkish but that is my individual choice. Many love Turkish's food and entertainment (no, they don't have belly dancers on the flight). I do not like food and entertainment on LOT but I do not care as I am asleep when flying them and they fly the 787 which is fantastic. :D

Check other possibilities using any number of sites such as Skyscanner, Kayak, etc.

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 02:25:22 PM »
Hello, I'm planning my first trip to the Ukraine for the last week of July!


Good luck in finding 'the Ukraine' on a map.

Or maybe you can make connections in 'the Germany, the France, or the Finland.'
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 02:30:55 PM »
Good luck in finding 'the Ukraine' on a map.

Or maybe you can make connections in 'the Germany, the France, or the Finland.'

He's from the Hague and his parents are from the USA. His cousins are Canadians
and they say, "so you're from the States eh?"

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 02:33:20 PM »
Good luck in finding 'the Ukraine' on a map.

Or maybe you can make connections in 'the Germany, the France, or the Finland.'

Gabriel Iglesias...you are not. Stop trying to be funny.

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 02:39:49 PM »
Hello, I'm planning my first trip to the Ukraine for the last week of July!
My plan is to visit Kharkiv and utilize Mila as my guide. Any tips or advise would be appreciated. Even ideas of which airlines or routes work best.
Thanks for any help
Tex

Mila should be able to keep you out of trouble and you've found your way here to
the forum, so you are miles ahead of most newbies. My advice would be to study
up here on the forum start here

The ten commandments
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=1740.0

How to get started
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=14615.0

and then read the faq's, the free ebook and then all the trip reports you can.
You can read mine here
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=3432.0

As you go along, you will have questions, you can either use the search function
or you can come back here and ask them. When you ask questions you will get
all kinds of advice, some very good and some not as good. Your job is to NOT
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With advice, use the best and forget about the rest.

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FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 02:44:40 PM »
Gabriel Iglesias...you are not. Stop trying to be funny.

Yes, everyone knows you don't try to make connections in the Finland  ;D



If they are going to Ukraine they should rent an apartment rather than a hotel
room, but Mila knows that and will keep him headed down the right path.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2017, 02:46:15 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 02:46:39 PM »
9 May

Hello all! I'm a 50 year old from Texas.  Divorced with custody of daughters ages 7 and 9. I had a subscription on Russian-Ukrainian-women  and I'm currently on elenasmodels. I'm African American . . .

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Boethius
FSUW are generally not family oriented toward your family (meaning your current children).  I always advise men not to look in the FSU if they have young kids.  I am a WW, my better half is an FSUM, and the only thing we ever argued about was our children, and they are our biological children.
Your colour will be an issue for the majority unless you have Caucasian features.

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Pitbull (female)
FSU is VERY racist and homophobic.

And FSUW are not excited about a man's children. The expectation is that once a man divorces he hardly ever sees the kids - they stay with the mother. This is how it goes in FSU 90% of the time. It will be very difficult to find one that would genuinely love your kids.

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20 May
Hello, I'm planning my first trip to the Ukraine for the last week of July!


Makes sense.

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2017, 04:10:53 PM »
"The Ukraine" was a faux pax. I know better, but writing " I'm flying to Ukraine" doesn't sound right to me.  Thanks for the advise, a love this forum!

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2017, 04:21:39 PM »
ML, if you want expand on my misguided decision process. I'll listen. "makes sense to me" doesn't give me much to work with

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2017, 04:22:48 PM »
"The Ukraine" was a faux pax. I know better, but writing " I'm flying to Ukraine" doesn't sound right to me.  Thanks for the advise, a love this forum!

For this post only, let me be mini-ML....

you mean faux pas....not faux pax.

advise is verb, advice is noun. So, you mean advice.

a love this forum.....well.... :D
 

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2017, 04:25:51 PM »
Touché

I started to type touchy lol!

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2017, 04:47:26 PM »

Bigtex, don't expect that showing up, the girls will fall all over you. Try to make solid contacts with some girls now and develop a friendship with them. Increases your chance of getting into a relationship with one of the ladies.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2017, 04:58:09 PM »
Thanks BillyB!  I'm using Mila's matchmaking process

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2017, 07:21:21 PM »
I don't recommend relying just on Mila's prospects. Make some connections of your own now using some of the sites we recommend here.

Mila as interpreter can help you weed out any scammers and pro-daters you may meet.
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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2017, 10:11:11 PM »
Bigtex

This seems to be your first trip, so have an open mind and you'll need to rely on Mila - a lot  - as you'll feel a little impotent not knowing the lingo and what is being said to / about you ;)

I recommend Turkish - as they are heavily govt. subsidised and the meals, in flight audio video kit and media is wonderful - plus the baggage limit - well it is in Europe - is 30Kg and 10 kg for hand luggage

A downside is that you cannot take tablets, computers, ipads into the salon on the way back from IST - due to a US ban - but they  take care of your kit - just before you board

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2017, 01:16:46 AM »
Thanks! I'll continue making contacts on my own. Msmob, I've been taking Russian lessons twice a week for 5 months. I agree that I won't have a command of the language, but I'll definitely be able to understand some of what's being said.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2017, 04:30:20 AM »
Thanks! I'll continue making contacts on my own. Msmob, I've been taking Russian lessons twice a week for 5 months. I agree that I won't have a command of the language, but I'll definitely be able to understand some of what's being said.
Bigtex

Oho, respect .... There are some on here that do not think knowing some of the lingo is necessary ...  But, I think being able to communicate with relations and friends of one's partner is useful :)



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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2017, 04:42:23 AM »
Bigtex, I am not sure if you know that in FSU, the N word is the prevalent reference to people with African look.  Please, keep in mind that FSU people have no idea that it is an offensive term. To them, using the word is as innocent as using the word - Asian- in reference to Asian people. Only after I immigrated to US, I learned that the word is offensive.  Good luck!

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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2017, 10:14:23 AM »
Thanks! I'll continue making contacts on my own. Msmob, I've been taking Russian lessons twice a week for 5 months. I agree that I won't have a command of the language, but I'll definitely be able to understand some of what's being said.
Bigtex

My wife asked me why I don't learn her language. I told her we already speak a language we both understand. I also told her there are other important things to learn or spend time on. I'd rather spend time with my wife in a park than studying a new language. I rather become better at what I do at work than study a new language because I'll get more in life being better at work. A smart woman would understand that too.

Lots of good tips in this forum on how to behave on dates. Behavior and confidence is more important than language. I wrote a thread of my many dating experiences which led up to meeting my wife.

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=11638.0

Bigtex, I am not sure if you know that in FSU, the N word is the prevalent reference to people with African look.  Please, keep in mind that FSU people have no idea that it is an offensive term.

True. In the FSU turned on a tv and 50 Cent, the rapper, was on and the lady I was dating and her brother pointed at him and said "He is a N, yes?" They were not trying to insult black people but were curious if we called them the same name.
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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2017, 10:41:32 AM »
Bigtex, I am not sure if you know that in FSU, the N word is the prevalent reference to people with African look.  Please, keep in mind that FSU people have no idea that it is an offensive term. To them, using the word is as innocent as using the word - Asian- in reference to Asian people. Only after I immigrated to US, I learned that the word is offensive.  Good luck!

Black or Negro people missed a big opportunity by not embracing the N word.

Think back at the word Cop.  Prior to 1960s, this was a very terrible word to use.  And because of its terribleness, the protesters and black people in particular starting using it with great vehemence.

So how did the police respond?  They embraced the term Cop and came to use it themselves.  As a result, it lost all use as a demeaning tool.

And, in fact, black people use the N term all the time to refer to other black people.  So it's sort of meaningless to keep being so offended by it and spending so much time and effort protesting its use.
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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2017, 11:05:58 AM »
ML...

you (and I aren't)  black ... move on ..

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2017, 11:21:49 AM »
Thanks for the replies guys!

I found out about the Russian use of the "N" word on this site. Honestly, people here refer to people of different races by color, " I know this black guy or my sisters white girlfriend".  It won't bother me.

I believe communication is very important to a relationship, plus I'd hate to stand and nod my head with a dumb look on my face when we're around her family/ friends. From my understanding this is a long process, so by the time I meet her parents, I'd like to be fairly fluent. Maybe it'll score some points with them

ML the American use of the N word is beyond my comprehension. I've been called it a million times by my own race. My N, what's up my N, N nawl, N please!I haven't had it said to me about me by 2 white people in my life. I've had white people say it in conversations with me countless times, both scenarios make me feel awkward. 

Honestly writing "white people" feels weird and inappropriate. So I apologize if it offends anyone

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Re: 1st trip planning
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2017, 10:41:42 AM »
FWIW-

For the sake of accuracy, the word used in FSU is 'Negr' (негр). Void of any negative connotations of another, separated from, (rather infamous) 'N' word used in the US.
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2017, 10:45:42 AM »
Quite... but when I first heard my Russian guest use the word - "So many N.. " .... on the tube [ term for underground / metro ] in London.... and heads turned on hearing the word ... I learnt it is worth warning FSU folk to NOT use that term - even when speaking Russian - before coming over

 

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