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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2018, 02:18:45 AM »
Most apartment building numbers in Ukraine are chronological, so a missing number should not be an issue.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2018, 02:39:49 AM »
Quite...

and if new buildings are built in between - they are - normally - suffixed with a letter

Not rocket science

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2018, 04:29:15 AM »
Thanks useful info.  I get it now.  In UK we name our buildings.  Now I understand it's a number syste.   I'm about to download that web site.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2018, 06:20:24 AM »
Most apartment building numbers in Ukraine are chronological, so a missing number should not be an issue.

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But beware that the sequencing on left side of street may have little relationship to sequencing on right side of street.

e.g.  20 on left hand side may be across from 75 on right hand side.
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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2018, 06:46:00 AM »
Or that the little name plate is above the non descript main entrance which is 50 meters from the powered entry gate and all this is round the back of the building and not visible from the side street.  Plus there may be a mig fighter on a concrete plinth randomly placed by the apartment.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #55 on: January 06, 2019, 10:29:53 AM »
Not sure what Paul Whelan did or didn't do, but thanks to him and Russia my travel plans have been denied by my employer, they have advised me not to travel to Russia or I can find another job. But she is still planning on traveling to me if her visa is approved. If not then I will have to wait for this Paul Whelan to blow over or find another job

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #56 on: January 06, 2019, 10:41:32 AM »
Wow snap my employer would nt give me time off for my first date with the gf I'm seeing now so I handed in my notice.  The relationship now is a bit rocky but I'm glad I did.  My UK experience is managers colleagues etc get very jealous and obstructive if you start showing off photos of your f s u beautiful gf.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2019, 10:44:23 AM »
Not sure what Paul Whelan did or didn't do, but thanks to him and Russia my travel plans have been denied by my employer, they have advised me not to travel to Russia or I can find another job. But she is still planning on traveling to me if her visa is approved. If not then I will have to wait for this Paul Whelan to blow over or find another job

Wow ....  that is a bummer ...

I am amazed at how those who work full-time  - as an employee  - can spare the time needed for this endeavour ..

The US seems to allow so little holiday ( vacation ) time


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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2019, 10:47:22 AM »
My UK experience is managers colleagues etc get very jealous and obstructive if you start showing off photos of your f s u beautiful gf.

Not mine ....   but then, I'd suggest waiting until you know you ( as a couple) are a serious item



There are even those who delight when a relationship breaks down - as you are already finding out ....

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2019, 12:13:08 PM »
DC, I am glad she is coming to see you soon. In my case, I had plenty of vacation time but my boss thought I was too indispensable to be gone more than 1 week. After several attempts, he finally relented and allowed me to take two weeks off. In case she cant come out, start planting the seed that you will need time off and that this is important to you

James,
I hope you hated your job, or things are different in the UK. In the USA, if you have a good job that you like you dont dare walk away from it for someone you have not even met

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2019, 12:26:01 PM »
Luckily for me I have people asking me to work for them.  I hear the USA is tough on holidays etc.  I work around London people get to know you by reputation.  Plus the next project they had in mind for me was more hazardous than I was used to so not a bad time to bale.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2019, 12:45:46 PM »
Welllll....... Vacation is not necessarily the issue, I have plenty of that, let's just say if I travel to a country that is at odds with the US they know I will be there. It is more of a matter of me being possibily detained by the other country for similar charges just because of who for. ****read between lines****
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 01:33:49 PM by DCcowboy »

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2019, 12:48:34 PM »
Apparently not for the OP with the new development, but as to transport from airport to hotel, maybe use a hotel where you can pre-pay for a pick-up at the airport?
I haven't done that in Moscow as I was picked up by my new friends in their car, but did it when I flew down to the Platov airport near Rostov-na-Donu. As I ordered my hotel room I also ordered transportation and it worked beautifully. As I walked out from arrivals, a woman stood there with a sign with my name on it. She spoke English and was nice and guided me outside and waited with me until the taxi came. The female taxi driver didn't speak English and I had a hard time convincing her to accept a little tip once we arrived at the hotel Hermitage.
I paid around 2500 rubles and the ride was about 50 minutes.
Great times, can't wait for my next visit to Russia to meet my friends and also meet some new friends.


DCcowboy:

"Will....... Vacation is not necessarily the issue, I have plenty of that, let's just say if I travel to a country that is at odds with the US they know I will be there. It is more of a matter of me being possibily detained by the other country for similar charges just because of who for. ****read between lines****"

Let me assure you, unless you do something illegal, that will NOT happen!
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 12:52:38 PM by The Natural »

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2019, 12:52:47 PM »
Scales fell from eyes yes I've been to dc and flew back in a tanker

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2019, 02:07:33 PM »
DC,

At best your lady friend has a 50/50 chance of getting a US tourist visa.  In the spring, when I was considering someone from Russia before I met my current lady, I looked at the chance of her coming to the US.  The average wait time for tourist visa interviews at the US Embassy at Moscow was 200 days.

Perhaps a 3rd country for your initial meeting?  She can go to Belarus anytime she wants, and as of this year they allow US citizens up to a 30 day visit to Minsk without a visa.  I think Turkey is another destination that is visa-free for both countries.

Or just anywhere in Europe, but your lady will need to get a Schengen visa - she may already have one.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2019, 05:09:14 PM »
Moscow is not the whole Russia   :wallbash: You, guys, continue to surprise me.

They miss you so much that they make these posts so that you can correct them.

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First trip to Russia
« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2019, 05:15:20 PM »
Welllll....... Vacation is not necessarily the issue, I have plenty of that, let's just say if I travel to a country that is at odds with the US they know I will be there. It is more of a matter of me being possibily detained by the other country for similar charges just because of who for. ****read between lines****

Now you are being silly. I've been to the Russian Federation 5 times and have never had a single
problem. Back in the bad ol' days there was more of stuff like that but it's very, very uncommon
these days.

Unless you are a terrorist, gun runner, wrote anti Russian speeches for John McCAin or work in
the CIA I think you should be fine.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 06:22:46 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2019, 05:58:34 PM »
Welllll....... Vacation is not necessarily the issue, I have plenty of that, let's just say if I travel to a country that is at odds with the US they know I will be there. It is more of a matter of me being possibily detained by the other country for similar charges just because of who for. ****read between lines****

There are literally tens of thousands of American working and visiting all over Russia at any given time. The chances of you being detained when you've done nothing are next to zero.

In the six years I lived in Moscow the only trouble I had with Russian law enforcement of any type was from a young local cop trying to solicit a bribe. My wife ended up scaring the guy so badly he left us alone.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2019, 06:15:41 PM »
I assume OP works for the federal government and that’s why his employer doesn’t want him to travel to Russia. I also assume the US government has more information than we do.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2019, 06:24:39 PM »
I assume OP works for the federal government and that’s why his employer doesn’t want him to travel to Russia. I also assume the US government has more information than we do.

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Then why can't he just say that? Isn't the government semi closed?

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2019, 06:58:13 PM »
He did say it. Just not directly.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2019, 08:32:15 PM »
All thank you for your comments.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2019, 08:23:13 AM by DCcowboy »

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2019, 08:35:44 PM »
DC,

At best your lady friend has a 50/50 chance of getting a US tourist visa.  In the spring, when I was considering someone from Russia before I met my current lady, I looked at the chance of her coming to the US.  The average wait time for tourist visa interviews at the US Embassy at Moscow was 200 days.

Perhaps a 3rd country for your initial meeting?  She can go to Belarus anytime she wants, and as of this year they allow US citizens up to a 30 day visit to Minsk without a visa.  I think Turkey is another destination that is visa-free for both countries.

Or just anywhere in Europe, but your lady will need to get a Schengen visa - she may already have one.
good information, I will suggest this, she has relative's in Minsk.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #73 on: January 07, 2019, 09:31:20 AM »
Unless you are a terrorist, gun runner, wrote anti Russian speeches for John McCAin or work in
the CIA I think you should be fine.

None of that is relevant.

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Re: First trip to Russia
« Reply #74 on: January 07, 2019, 09:43:28 AM »
BTW, if you have an active security clearance you need to contact the state dept about any trip to Russia
I recently went, they have a new visa application just for Americans!
it asks for a detailed history of your employment and military service, weapons training, etc
and any special skills relating to engineering or science, etc
I could barely fit my details on the form!

don't get "setup" in Russia
did not follow the itinerary provided in your visa
never answer door or phone - accept no packages/envelopes
my profile in Russia is so low it could fall off a kopec
this is how I stayed out of a Russian prison
while filming Russian paramilitary facilities in Crimea
and "other matters", discreetly of course
helps to have a family for "cover"

 

 

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