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NOTE: I copied a headline from the Washington Examiner
I am not claiming that Epstein's death is fishy. People who
have dirt on Bill Clinton tend to die at the cRaZieSt times
but that's probably just lucky for ole Bubba

Epstein apparently killed himself this morning.

Jeffrey Epstein, 66, hangs himself in his Manhattan
jail cell, 24 hours after files in his case were unsealed and two weeks
after he was placed on suicide watch


The financier - who once boasted high-profile friends including Prince
Andrew and President Bill Clinton - was arrested on July 6, accused of
arranging to have sex with dozens of underage girls at his residences
in New York City and Florida between 2002 and 2005. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7344181/Billionaire-Jeffrey-Epstein-dies-suicide-inside-Manhattan-jail-cell.html

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This smells very fishy': Skepticism ensues after
shocking Epstein suicide death


Epstein allegedly hanged himself in his cell at the Manhattan Correctional
Center early Saturday morning, despite previous reports that he was under
suicide watch.

His death follows the unsealing of 2,000 pages of documents on Friday
that implicated many other high-profile individuals in Epstein's alleged
sex trafficking ring.

read the story here
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/this-smells-very-fishy-skepticism-ensues-after-shocking-epstein-suicide-death
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Is fishy and smells everywhere. It was all about naming names.
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Why single out the Clintons, Beel ..


'Our' Prince Andrew is a named beneficiary and 'Trampu' claimed Epstein 'is a regular guy' ..

I've seen the photos of the 'dead Epstein' - with a 'different nose/ ear' - and wonder if fake news hasn't gone a little OTT ...?

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/jeffrey-epstein-ear-suicide-body-double/




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Why single out the Clintons, Beel ..


'Our' Prince Andrew is a named beneficiary and 'Trampu' claimed Epstein 'is a regular guy' ..

I've seen the photos of the 'dead Epstein' - with a 'different nose/ ear' - and wonder if fake news hasn't gone a little OTT ...?

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/jeffrey-epstein-ear-suicide-body-double/


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Why single out the Clintons, Beel ..


'Our' Prince Andrew is a named beneficiary and 'Trampu' claimed Epstein 'is a regular guy' ..

I've seen the photos of the 'dead Epstein' - with a 'different nose/ ear' - and wonder if fake news hasn't gone a little OTT ...?

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/jeffrey-epstein-ear-suicide-body-double/


BAHAHAHA  :ROFL:

You never disappoint at how you hold on to something no matter how thin and moronic to support your insane positions. Your hatred for President Donald J. Trump knows no bounds and is again, noted

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Your hatred for President Donald J. Trump knows no bounds and is again, noted

I am also also always amazed at how people from other countries are so wrapped up in USA politics when we care nothing about the politics in  their countries.

Just yesterday a German gal came to have lunch with us and gossip with Ochka.  Her American husband was off on a business trip.

She is in her 50s and has 3 grown children back in Germany.

She related how many here in USA always ask her if her children will move to USA.

They would never dream of coming here when Trump is president she says.  And under questioning added that they hated Bush also.

So point is, since they are socialist, they think everyone should be and that we are a terrible country and terrible people if we can't see the light.

They avoid telling other Germans that their mother is living in USA.  They are embarrassed about it.

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If she smells fishy
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2019, 08:09:52 AM »
Why single out the Clintons, Beel ..


'Our' Prince Andrew is a named beneficiary and 'Trampu' claimed Epstein 'is a regular guy' ..

I've seen the photos of the 'dead Epstein' - with a 'different nose/ ear' - and wonder if fake news hasn't gone a little OTT ...?


First of all, I saw a headline so I posted it. Second of all, how many
people who were about to give evidence against the Clinton's die?
(It's more than 20). Would you be surprised that others died while
in solitary confinement who were about to testify about the
Clintons?

How many people that were about to expose Prince Andrew ended
up dead? Just this one?

« Last Edit: August 11, 2019, 08:28:00 AM by 2tallbill »
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I am also also always amazed at how people from other countries are so wrapped up in USA politics when we care nothing about the politics in  their countries.

Here's a cluebat for ya, ML..!

Epstein's intros  .. Prince Andrew's inappropriate touching allegations
"Palace says any suggestion of impropriety by Prince Andrew "categorically untrue""


I see some clueless Americans posting on Brexit on here;)

So, Brits have some skin in this  'game' .. which is more about possible abuse of powerful status -  not just by politicions, yes ?
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b04vr10q








They would never dream of coming here when Trump is president she says.  And under questioning added that they hated Bush also.

Not an uncommon theme for most nations ..

This next part's HILARIOUS ..

So point is, since they are socialist, they think everyone should be and that we are a terrible country and terrible people if we can't see the light.

They avoid telling other Germans that their mother is living in USA.  They are embarrassed about it.

 Merkel - Christian Democrat - has been leader since 2004 and is right of centre politically - do not let the 'Democrat' word confuse you .. :ROFL:

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Palace says any suggestion of impropriety by Prince Andrew "categorically untrue
So all Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh had to say was the word 'catagorically' and then everybody would have left him be  :rolleyes:
I didn't know that palaces could talk.
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I see some clueless Americans posting on Brexit on here
Briefly...The USA withdrew from British rule and was willing to go to war...so what is the problem with the Brits?...show some spine.  





 
 
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Ann Coulter was one of the first people early on to point out the likelihood of Epstein’s death when he reportedly tried to hang himself in his jail cell weeks after his arrest in July.
“Dear Bureau of Prisons: Please get Jeffrey Epstein to a super Max prison pronto, or the people who want him dead will make sure we never know the truth. ACT NOW!” she tweeted.
 
In fact, Coulter believed Epstein’s death was all but inevitable because she believed he had “state sponsors” facilitating his blackmail operations using underage girls to entrap powerful people.
“Epstein according to both the girls accounts, he wanted them to have sex with powerful men, come back to him and report on it, describe what they wanted what their fetishes were and he had cameras throughout the house so this is obviously for blackmailing purposes,” Coulter said last month.
“It just seems to me something much bigger is behind this — perhaps a state sponsor — powerful enough people…it just seems to me there’s something a very powerful force behind what’s going on here and I am still nervous about this not coming to a conclusion, somehow this getting compromised,” she added.
Epstein’s death comes less than 24 hours after 2,000 pages of court documents were unsealed on Friday, revealing names of powerful figures accused of involving themselves with Epstein’s sex romps with underage girls, including Prince Andrew, former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, and financier Glenn Dubin.
Thee ol' honey trap. That is how the World rolls. Set powerful men up with nubile young girls, video tape them and blackmail them into doing your bidding.

Prince Andrew? Didn't he hang out with Jimmy Savelle? F.O.B. friends of Bill another known sex offender on the flight logs 27 times of Epstein's Loleta Express. The whole house of cards is about to collapse on these scum.

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So all
Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh had to say was the word 'catagorically' and then everybody would have left him be  :rolleyes:

I must have 'missed' Mr K suing his detractors for their wrongful accusations..Oh wait a mo.. he is the President's choice..like he has a track record for choosing his team 'wisely'..




[/size]I didn't know that palaces could talk.

'The White House responded ' are words one sees near daily in the press...  Google it.!  Aren't you doing 'well', today?

Let's see...three out of three fails?


Briefly...The USA withdrew from British rule and was willing to go to war...so what is the problem with the Brits?...show some spine.[/size]  

Yup..you managed 3/3..

The ' battle' re Brexit is being 'fought' in Parliament when the PUBLIC should get the final say on how we leave...if at all..

Thanks for proving my point ...

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It is 'Eyes Wide Shut'. This happened 11 years ago with the DC madam. 12 thousand phone numbers sealed and sealed forever. The DC madam was found hung in her mother's utility shed found by her elderly mother. You should hear her mother's 911 call.

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BAHAHAHA  :ROFL:

You never disappoint at how you hold on to something no matter how thin and moronic to support your insane positions. Your hatred for President Donald J. Trump knows no bounds and is again, noted

Did you actually believe the Clinton's  are behind his ' suicide'. ?

.I thought only sad folks who think Alex Jones is sane could be SO dumb.

Your President lies SO much and blames everyone else when he creates may of your society's issues..

There is much to fear, not hate.

One can only hope a candidate with a clue will  emerge to challenge and beat him... only this time winning the most EC votes, too


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http://www.infowars.com/watch/?video=5d51dff106c5830017c98e8d
Texas Rep Al Green (D) demands to see the jailhouse video. BUT the cameras were turned off. The guards were sent home early. 



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Did you actually believe the Clinton's  are behind his ' suicide'. ?
Mobes.....be glad  you never knew them...not with your ego----
 Notice how Clinton bodyguards dropped like flies...................................
 
The Clinton Body Count Conspiracy
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZI49J_tF0
The 2019 Updated Listing Of The Clinton Body Count:
 BELOW IS A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF 56 MYSTERIOUS DEATHS AND 2 NEAR-DEATHS CONNECTED TO THE CLINTONS THAT HAVE GRAVE IMPLICATIONS:
 
 James McDoug
al – Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation
 Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
 Vince Foster – Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
 Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
 C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
 Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992… Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor.”
  Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
  Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
 James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
  James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
  Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
  Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
 Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
 Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
 Suzanne Cole[B]man[/B] – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
 Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
 Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
 Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death.
 Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
  Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
 Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
 Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
  Barry Seal – Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.
 Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
 Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
 Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
 Kevin Ives and Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
  Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988
  Keith McM askle – Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
 Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
  Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
  James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”
  Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
  Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
 Major William S. Barkley Jr. – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
  Captain Scott J. Reynolds – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
  Sgt. Brian Hanley – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
  Sgt. Tim Sabel – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
 Major General William Robertson – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
  Col. William Densberger – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
  Col. Robert Kelly – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
 Spec. Gary Rhodes – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
 Steve Willis – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
  Robert Williams – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
 Conway LeBleu – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
 Todd McKeehan – DECEASED former Clinton Bodyguard
  John F. Kennedy Jr. – July 16, 1999 JFK Jr. and his wife went down in a still-unresolved and very mysterious plane crash. John was the frontrunner for the NY State Senate seat that ultimately went to…wait for it…Hillary Clinton.
  Molly Macauly – World-renowned “space economist” Molly Macauly was brutally murdered in Baltimore park.
  John Ashe– The former President of the UN General Assembly was awaiting trial on bribery charges when he turned up dead in June, apparently having crushed his own windpipe while lifting weights in his home.
 Victor Thorn -Prominent CLINTON Critic VICTOR THORN Found Dead Of Apparent Suicide On His Birthday
 Seth Rich – Still No Clues in Murder of DNC’s Seth Rich, As Conspiracy Theories Thicken
 Joe Montano – Filipino American activist and aide to Sen. Kaine, dies at 47
  Shawn Lucas – Death of DNC Lawsuit Processor Shawn Lucas Adds to Seth Rich Conspiracy Theories
  Klaus Eberwein – Found Dead Before Testifying Against Clinton Foundation in HAITI COVERUP
 Peter W. Smith – Man who sought Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers committed suicide
  Professor Alan Krueger – Now why would a man who was excited about the upcoming release of his new book suddenly decide to suicide himself? Maybe he looked at his resume and realized he used to work for the Clintons.
  HONORABLE MENTION: Jack Burkman investigated the suspicious surroundings of the murder of Seth Rich, and was shot several times but lived. Because of that he absolutely makes the list.
  HONORABLE MENTION: Huma Abedin received an honorary listing here because she was smart enough to take 10,000 incriminating emails from Crooked Hillary, and store them in a folder on her laptop. What was the name of that folder? She called it ‘Life Insurance‘, and indeed it was.http://www.usacarry.com/forums/politics-and-news/66400-clinton-dead-pool.html
 
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The question being debated by millions of Americans right now is that of whether or not billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide or if he was silenced. There is the fact that his death was widely predicted by virtue of the fact that he is so closely linked to, and possibly could implicate as co-conspirators, the Clintons, who happen to have many associates who have “committed suicide” after finding themselves in the unique position of having some sort of dirt on them.
Many warned that this would happen, that Epstein would end up being “suicided” and find himself the latest victim of the #ClintonBodyCount.
And sure enough, many abnormalities of the incidents surrounding Epstein’s death lead one to believe, that, as predicted, Epstein’s “suicide” may not, in fact, have been a “suicide.” 
The media, while they have been reporting on many of the suspicious factors of Epstein’s death, seem to have been dropping the ball as far as discussing what these suspicious factors could mean.
Flag and Cross has 7 unanswered questions about Epstein’s mysterious death that the media needs to be talking about:
#1 Why are the autopsy results being delayed?  According to NBC News, the New York City medical examiner’s office is requesting “more information” before determining the cause of Epstein’s death…
 <blockquote>The New York City medical examiner’s office said Sunday that it had completed an autopsy of the financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein but that it needed more information before determining the cause of death.</blockquote> #2 What will the cameras show?  By now most people have heard that there were no cameras filming what was going on inside Epstein’s cell, but there were cameras filming the doors of each cell…
 <blockquote>The news of the delay to the autopsy results comes after a source told the New York Post there was no video of the moment he died in his jail cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center.
Cameras are said to film the doors to each cell which would show anyone who entered or exited, but they do not point inside.</blockquote> So if someone paid a “visit” to Epstein, there should be video evidence of it.
#3 Why was Jeffrey Epstein taken off suicide watch?  After Epstein attempted to “kill himself” the first time, he was put on suicide watch, but only for a short period.  The following comes from CNN…
 <blockquote>No. Epstein was temporarily placed on a suicide watch after he was found in his jail cell July 23 with marks on his neck, a law enforcement source and a source familiar with the incident told CNN at the time.
It wasn’t clear whether those injuries, which were not serious, were self-inflicted or the result of an assault, the sources said. Epstein told authorities he had been beaten up and called a child predator, they said.</blockquote> #4 Why did the guards break prison rules and not check on him every 30 minutes?  Apparently these guards had been working a lot of overtime, but that is no excuse for breaking prison rules…
 <blockquote>Epstein should have been checked on by guards in his cell every 30 minutes, but that didn’t happen the night before his apparent suicide, a law enforcement official told the Times.
The Times spoke to the official on the condition of anonymity. The Associated Press has not independently confirmed the information.
A law enforcement source also said he was alone in his cell Saturday night after his cellmate was transferred. An official with knowledge of the investigation told the Times that the Justice Department was told Epstein would have a cellmate and be monitored by a guard every 30 minutes.</blockquote> #5 Why would Jeffrey Epstein tries to kill himself if he was adjusting so well to prison life?  According to a “prison insider” interviewed by the Daily Mail, Epstein “seemed to be in good spirits” just before his life ended…
 <blockquote>The insider, who had seen the disgraced financier on several occasions during his incarceration at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, also claims that the normally reserved Epstein seemed to be in good spirits.
‘There was no indication that he might try to take his own life,’ the source told DailyMail.com.
‘From what I saw, he was finally starting to adjust to prison. I think he was comforted by the rigidity of his new life.’</blockquote> #6 Why did Jeffrey Epstein tell guards that someone was trying to kill him?  It has been reported by the mainstream media that Epstein previously tried to kill himself, but apparently that report was being directly contradicted by Epstein himself.  Of course it is entirely possible that Epstein was lying, but according to multiple reports he claimed that someone had tried to kill him…
 <blockquote>The 66-year-old convicted sex offender reportedly told guards and fellow inmates he believed someone was trying to kill him.</blockquote> The multimillionaire, who was being held on sex trafficking charges at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, had previously been on suicide watch.
#7 How could Epstein kill himself in a prison where the cells had been specifically designed to prevent that from happening?  I shared this quote in another article that I just posted, but it is deeply relevant to this article as well.  According to a former inmate of the Metropolitan Correction Center in lower Manhattan that was just interviewed by the New York Post, there is no way that Epstein would have been able to hang himself…
 <blockquote>There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility.
Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.
You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.</blockquote> Everything in these cells was designed to keep hanging deaths from happening, but that is not the only way that prisoners kill themselves.
According to a study cited by the Los Angeles Times, over 90 percent of all prison suicides are hangings, and drug overdoses are the second most common cause…
 <blockquote>According to news reports, Epstein was not on suicide watch when he died, but even if he had been the outcome might have been the same. A study by the U.S. Marshal Service found that about 8% of suicides in correctional facilities occurred even though an inmate was on suicide watch. According to the report, the vast majority of suicides (more than 90%) are hangings, with the second most common being drug overdoses.</blockquote> So is it possible that Epstein could have come up with a way to kill himself?
Yes, although it wouldn’t have been easy.  Epstein was certainly a miserable human being, and without anything positive to live for, he probably imagined that he would rot away in a prison cell for the rest of his life.
In the end, it definitely would not be a surprise if someone in his position chose the cowardly route of committing suicide.
But without a doubt, something doesn’t smell right here.
There were reports that Epstein was willing to start testifying against his rich and powerful friends, but now that will never happen.
It is clear that there are certain people that have greatly benefited from his death, and in many of those cases it appears that justice will probably never be served.
 

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The question being debated by millions of Americans right now is that of whether or not billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide or if he was silenced. There is the fact that his death was widely predicted by virtue of the fact that he is so closely linked to, and possibly could implicate as co-conspirators, the Clintons, who happen to have many associates who have “committed suicide” after finding themselves in the unique position of having some sort of dirt on them.
Many warned that this would happen, that Epstein would end up being “suicided” and find himself the latest victim of the #ClintonBodyCount.
And sure enough, many abnormalities of the incidents surrounding Epstein’s death lead one to believe, that, as predicted, Epstein’s “suicide” may not, in fact, have been a “suicide.” 
The media, while they have been reporting on many of the suspicious factors of Epstein’s death, seem to have been dropping the ball as far as discussing what these suspicious factors could mean.
Flag and Cross has 7 unanswered questions about Epstein’s mysterious death that the media needs to be talking about:
#1 Why are the autopsy results being delayed?  According to NBC News, the New York City medical examiner’s office is requesting “more information” before determining the cause of Epstein’s death…
 <blockquote>The New York City medical examiner’s office said Sunday that it had completed an autopsy of the financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein but that it needed more information before determining the cause of death.</blockquote> #2 What will the cameras show?  By now most people have heard that there were no cameras filming what was going on inside Epstein’s cell, but there were cameras filming the doors of each cell…
 <blockquote>The news of the delay to the autopsy results comes after a source told the New York Post there was no video of the moment he died in his jail cell at Metropolitan Correctional Center.
Cameras are said to film the doors to each cell which would show anyone who entered or exited, but they do not point inside.</blockquote> So if someone paid a “visit” to Epstein, there should be video evidence of it.
#3 Why was Jeffrey Epstein taken off suicide watch?  After Epstein attempted to “kill himself” the first time, he was put on suicide watch, but only for a short period.  The following comes from CNN…
 <blockquote>No. Epstein was temporarily placed on a suicide watch after he was found in his jail cell July 23 with marks on his neck, a law enforcement source and a source familiar with the incident told CNN at the time.
It wasn’t clear whether those injuries, which were not serious, were self-inflicted or the result of an assault, the sources said. Epstein told authorities he had been beaten up and called a child predator, they said.</blockquote> #4 Why did the guards break prison rules and not check on him every 30 minutes?  Apparently these guards had been working a lot of overtime, but that is no excuse for breaking prison rules…
 <blockquote>Epstein should have been checked on by guards in his cell every 30 minutes, but that didn’t happen the night before his apparent suicide, a law enforcement official told the Times.
The Times spoke to the official on the condition of anonymity. The Associated Press has not independently confirmed the information.
A law enforcement source also said he was alone in his cell Saturday night after his cellmate was transferred. An official with knowledge of the investigation told the Times that the Justice Department was told Epstein would have a cellmate and be monitored by a guard every 30 minutes.</blockquote> #5 Why would Jeffrey Epstein tries to kill himself if he was adjusting so well to prison life?  According to a “prison insider” interviewed by the Daily Mail, Epstein “seemed to be in good spirits” just before his life ended…
 <blockquote>The insider, who had seen the disgraced financier on several occasions during his incarceration at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, also claims that the normally reserved Epstein seemed to be in good spirits.
‘There was no indication that he might try to take his own life,’ the source told DailyMail.com.
‘From what I saw, he was finally starting to adjust to prison. I think he was comforted by the rigidity of his new life.’</blockquote> #6 Why did Jeffrey Epstein tell guards that someone was trying to kill him?  It has been reported by the mainstream media that Epstein previously tried to kill himself, but apparently that report was being directly contradicted by Epstein himself.  Of course it is entirely possible that Epstein was lying, but according to multiple reports he claimed that someone had tried to kill him…
 <blockquote>The 66-year-old convicted sex offender reportedly told guards and fellow inmates he believed someone was trying to kill him.</blockquote> The multimillionaire, who was being held on sex trafficking charges at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, had previously been on suicide watch.
#7 How could Epstein kill himself in a prison where the cells had been specifically designed to prevent that from happening?  I shared this quote in another article that I just posted, but it is deeply relevant to this article as well.  According to a former inmate of the Metropolitan Correction Center in lower Manhattan that was just interviewed by the New York Post, there is no way that Epstein would have been able to hang himself…
 <blockquote>There’s no way that man could have killed himself. I’ve done too much time in those units. It’s an impossibility.
Between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet. There’s no way for you to connect to anything.
You have sheets, but they’re paper level, not strong enough. He was 200 pounds — it would never happen.</blockquote> Everything in these cells was designed to keep hanging deaths from happening, but that is not the only way that prisoners kill themselves.
According to a study cited by the Los Angeles Times, over 90 percent of all prison suicides are hangings, and drug overdoses are the second most common cause…
 <blockquote>According to news reports, Epstein was not on suicide watch when he died, but even if he had been the outcome might have been the same. A study by the U.S. Marshal Service found that about 8% of suicides in correctional facilities occurred even though an inmate was on suicide watch. According to the report, the vast majority of suicides (more than 90%) are hangings, with the second most common being drug overdoses.</blockquote> So is it possible that Epstein could have come up with a way to kill himself?
Yes, although it wouldn’t have been easy.  Epstein was certainly a miserable human being, and without anything positive to live for, he probably imagined that he would rot away in a prison cell for the rest of his life.
In the end, it definitely would not be a surprise if someone in his position chose the cowardly route of committing suicide.
But without a doubt, something doesn’t smell right here.
There were reports that Epstein was willing to start testifying against his rich and powerful friends, but now that will never happen.
It is clear that there are certain people that have greatly benefited from his death, and in many of those cases it appears that justice will probably never be served.
Personally, I don't believe this was a regular suicide where an individual wants to kill himself.   If he did kill himself it was because he was coerced into doing it....or he was killed by somebody.    Typical of US corruption....but maybe we can blame Russia, China, Venezuela! 

Fathertime! 
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Personally, I don't believe this was a regular suicide where an individual wants to kill himself.   If he did kill himself it was because he was coerced into doing it....or he was killed by somebody.    Typical of US corruption....but maybe we can blame Russia, China, Venezuela! 

Fathertime!

I thought it interesting that Epstein's jail cell was constructed with high ceilings with nothing to tie a rope to and even his blanket was made with a week paper like fabric.

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I thought it interesting that Epstein's jail cell was constructed with high ceilings with nothing to tie a rope to and even his blanket was made with a week paper like fabric.

Somehow tracks were probably covered and this story will pass like many others have.  Meanwhile a lot of powerful people are probably breathing easier because they are off the hook...regardless of what officials may say.

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Personally, I don't believe this was a regular suicide where an individual wants to kill himself.   If he did kill himself it was because he was coerced into doing it....or he was killed by somebody.    Typical of US corruption....but maybe we can blame Russia, China, Venezuela! 

Fathertime!
I heard on the Morning Joe show at MSNBC that Epstein was put on suicide watch July 25 then taken off it it 4 days later. And his cell mate transferred leaving him alone in his cell. MSNBC is selling at a series of unfortunate events and the women won't get their day in court with him. But they still  can sue his estate which is worth a half of a billion dollars.

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Somehow tracks were probably covered and this story will pass like many others have.  Meanwhile a lot of powerful people are probably breathing easier because they are off the hook...regardless of what officials may say.

Fathertime!

I am afraid you might be right. The victims still can sue and trial would happen... or maybe not.

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The FBI finally got around to raiding the island.  Too bad they waited to do it now instead of doing it when Epstein was arrested.   

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I am afraid you might be right. The victims still can sue and trial would happen... or maybe not.

Civil suits against Epstein's estate, which will be tied up for years and years.

Regarding criminal court, AG Barr is very upset about this.  He said co-conspirators "should not rest easy." 

 

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