The Smart Guy’s Guide to Picking Up Girls in Ukraine the Easy Way

[krimster2]

The Smart Guy’s Guide to Picking Up Girls in Ukraine the Easy Way

material required
1. GQ outfit season dependent
2. fake invisible dog chain (referred to as “Igor”)
3. knowledge of all nearby coffee shops, restaurants, etc)

First, you stake out a couple of places that have a high percentage of female foot traffic
This is usually a market of some kind, and you’ll notice some days are busier and have different demographics, for instance, young working age women are more frequent on a Saturday.

After, you found a location with a suitable volume of female foot traffic, you dress, and get Igor
sit there passively, don’t make eye contact

BUT…
when you see the hottest looking girl EVER, come walking down the sidewalk
then you have Igor drag you to her…..

OK, I’ll let you work out WHAT COMES NEXT!
Cuz, I got my own unique story, that WORKS
and I don’t really feel the need to share it with anyone

BUT THIS ACTUALLY FREAKIN WORKS!!!!
they love it!!!

how to self introduce to Ukrainian Super Models
works best in late spring, early summer, whenever the weather "breaks"
and changes people's attitudes and behavior!

[krimster2]

What influenced your decision to seek out an FSU partner?

When I was 10 yr old, I developed “feelings” for Natasha from “The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show”
but I don’t think it influenced my preferences in a woman in the slightest bit

Natashsa and I together, could have EASILY defeated Moose and Squirrel
but Boris is a loser, who holds her back
ahhhhhhhh Natasha….
that girl, so 'gangsta

[ML]

Sex.

The woman would need to be several years younger than me so that she would be interested in sex for many years.  She would also need to have intelligence, educational and cultural levels similar to my own, be relatively slender and not short.

The above ruled out women in the USA.  USA women who met ALL my criteria (mainly the age and slender) were not interested in me.

This meant searching in areas where the women would be interested in me based on something I could offer them beyond what the average man in their home country could.  Economic security.

Filipina women were too short.
Chinese and other oriental women had too much of a different mindset.
South American women were prone to chubbiness, had violent temperaments, and most were too dark.

FSU women were the natural choice.

[2tallbill]

What influenced your decision to seek out an FSU partner?

Too many to count. I already had the FSUW bug before I ever moved 
to Norf Dakody. Once I was in Western North Dakota, there were zero
unmarried women. There were some in the kindergarten girls and the
old folks home but there were zero unmarried women. Toothless crones
with facial tattoos and an ankle collar reporting to the parole board
had a circle of men around them. 

I arranged a date in nearby Portland Oregon because it was only a 24
hour drive (each way). I could be to Angel Eyes door in only 20 hours, 
so I went to Russia because it was closer! 

[2tallbill]

Sex.

The woman would need to be several years younger than me so that she would be interested in sex for many years.  She would also need to have intelligence, educational and cultural levels similar to my own, be relatively slender and not short.

The above ruled out women in the USA.  USA women who met ALL my criteria (mainly the age and slender) were not interested in me.

This meant searching in areas where the women would be interested in me based on something I could offer them beyond what the average man in their home country could.  Economic security.

Filipina women were too short.
Chinese and other oriental women had too much of a different mindset.
South American women were prone to chubbiness, had violent temperaments, and most were too dark.

FSU women were the natural choice.

Filipina women would have been second place for me but they are soooo
freaking short. I really wanted a woman who was taller than 5' 5" for a
bunch of reasons but sex with women shorter than that is not as fun
for me.

[Trenchcoat]

One word, 'hypergamy' the girls I could get here are the ones I don't want, the overweight, the unattractive, the chavvy single mums, etc. The girls I want, the tarty prettyish kind of girls are inundated by guys. On the whole scheme of things I have stuff going for me but not enough to catch those girls I want, I get some interest but they generally go eye flirting with loads of guys who show the slightest interest to boost their egos. Beyond that western women can be just plain materialistically predatory towards men because of the influence of feminism. I'm not saying FSW are perfect, haven't gone after a guy with money and wanted to trash him, there are of course examples around but in the whole most from the get go just want the guy to provide economic security.

I think here in the west feminism has really upended the scale in terms of men not being able to provide what many women want, women these days can go out and get a job the same as a man and on equal pay. Those guys on the same or less money aren't going to be much joy to her unless he has above average looks, social skills, gym bod, etc. However, that average Joe transports himself to the FSU and he can go from a girl's third, fourth, etc choice to the main man head and shoulders above most local guys. The FSW might still prefer a local guy but with economies on the downtown now, particularly out in the FSU, an average Joe foreign guy who can provide even just ok is now likely seen as a pretty good deal.

[krimster2]

I dated a lot of “shorties” in my youth
the proper way to have intercourse with a shortie, is her on top
moving up and down like a red hot piston on a maxed-out engine

added optical benefit
elasticity of boobs being demonstrated as she bounces up and down
just amazing to see when the ripple hits the nipple

compatibility with a Russian woman, was far EASIER for me to achieve than with an American one
I think there are several factors here:

American women have an entitled mentality, and Russian women don’t!
This just makes Russian women, so much easier to get along with
However, they’re still high maintenance, you need to provide them with “stimulation”
or they get bored, money can buy you a lot of various ways to stimulate a woman
new car, jewelry, fancy house, etc
but if you DO PROVIDE these things, then they are incredibly loyal and caring partners
and if you ever needed a kidney, due to some potential medical emergency
they’d give ya one with no complaint
American woman OTOH, would ask about your life insurance
it’s why I like Russian women

they are just easier to get along than with "controlling" American women
just much easier going
BUT...
don't EVER make them mad
and ALWAYS take your shoes off before coming into the house
those of you who are married, know what I'm talkin about!!
AMIRITE!

[2tallbill]

Natashsa and I together, could have EASILY defeated Moose and Squirrel
but Boris is a loser, who holds her back
ahhhhhhhh Natasha….
that girl, so 'gangsta

Natasha needed to groom her Unibrow.

[krimster2]

"Natasha needed to groom her Unibrow. "

wasn't the ONLY thing that needed a little trimmin'
you know how things were "back then"
today they're all "smooth as a mirror" cuz of the speical wax they NOW use
so it doesn't tickle your nose like in the old days

[2tallbill]

"Natasha needed to groom her Unibrow. "

wasn't the ONLY thing that needed a little trimmin'
you know how things were "back then"
today they're all "smooth as a mirror" cuz of the speical wax they NOW use
so it doesn't tickle your nose like in the old days

Yeah, or sugaring.

[krimster2]

I’m not sure which one I like to do more, to apply hot melted wax to my wife’s VJJ, or to use my “VJJ Sugar” recipe of of a mixture of lemon, water, and sugar.
It depends on my mood, I guess, and how merciful I feel towards my wife
either way, my wife’s VJJ gets A LOT of “sugah”
 
then couple that with VJJ bleaching
I've gotten very creative in my work
the result, is increasing towards perfection
a delicate pink flower

[Grumpy]

One word, 'hypergamy' the girls I could get here are the ones I don't want, the overweight, the unattractive, the chavvy single mums, etc. The girls I want, the tarty prettyish kind of girls are inundated by guys. On the whole scheme of things I have stuff going for me but not enough to catch those girls I want, I get some interest but they generally go eye flirting with loads of guys who show the slightest interest to boost their egos. Beyond that western women can be just plain materialistically predatory towards men because of the influence of feminism. I'm not saying FSW are perfect, haven't gone after a guy with money and wanted to trash him, there are of course examples around but in the whole most from the get go just want the guy to provide economic security.

I think here in the west feminism has really upended the scale in terms of men not being able to provide what many women want, women these days can go out and get a job the same as a man and on equal pay. Those guys on the same or less money aren't going to be much joy to her unless he has above average looks, social skills, gym bod, etc. However, that average Joe transports himself to the FSU and he can go from a girl's third, fourth, etc choice to the main man head and shoulders above most local guys. The FSW might still prefer a local guy but with economies on the downtown now, particularly out in the FSU, an average Joe foreign guy who can provide even just ok is now likely seen as a pretty good deal.

Trench has Lambo desires......and a Yugo budget.
Maybe "Honest Charlie's Used Lot" could fix him up....but Trench is worried he will get scammed.
I see a bicycle built for one in Trench's future unless he can drastically improve his plan.

[Boethius]

One word, 'hypergamy' the girls I could get here are the ones I don't want, the overweight, the unattractive, the chavvy single mums, etc. The girls I want, the tarty prettyish kind of girls are inundated by guys. On the whole scheme of things I have stuff going for me but not enough to catch those girls I want, I get some interest but they generally go eye flirting with loads of guys who show the slightest interest to boost their egos. Beyond that western women can be just plain materialistically predatory towards men because of the influence of feminism. I'm not saying FSW are perfect, haven't gone after a guy with money and wanted to trash him, there are of course examples around but in the whole most from the get go just want the guy to provide economic security.

I think here in the west feminism has really upended the scale in terms of men not being able to provide what many women want, women these days can go out and get a job the same as a man and on equal pay. Those guys on the same or less money aren't going to be much joy to her unless he has above average looks, social skills, gym bod, etc. However, that average Joe transports himself to the FSU and he can go from a girl's third, fourth, etc choice to the main man head and shoulders above most local guys. The FSW might still prefer a local guy but with economies on the downtown now, particularly out in the FSU, an average Joe foreign guy who can provide even just ok is now likely seen as a pretty good deal.

Feminism does not make women "predatory".  It gives them options. 


A man who views feminism negatively typically is not an "alpha" male.  He's gamma or delta. 


Predatory women existed before feminism, and exist in greater numbers, percentage wise, in the FSU than they exist in the west.

women these days can go out and get a job the same as a man and on equal pay. Those guys on the same or less money aren't going to be much joy to her unless he has above average looks, social skills, gym bod, etc. However, that average Joe transports himself to the FSU and he can go from a girl's third, fourth, etc choice to the main man head and shoulders above most local guys.

Because he has money.  Nothing else.  And you claim you eschew that.

[2tallbill]

Trench has Lambo desires......and a Yugo budget.
Maybe "Honest Charlie's Used Lot" could fix him up....but Trench is worried he will get scammed.
I see a bicycle built for one in Trench's future unless he can drastically improve his plan.

He is too unreasonable in his expectations and his attitude is not conducive
for success.

I don't think there is any possibility that Trench can change or improve himself
or his possibilities. In my opinion, he is probably best suited to save his money
and rent a hottie from time to time. When his remodeling project is
complete in 2024, he could use the funds from his renters to rent-a-hottie.
Maybe one or two per month?

Maybe if he sought out a Russian woman who is 3 years younger than himself
(and not a day younger) he could find a very attractive woman who would settle
for him.

[ML]

When his remodeling project is
complete in 2024, he could use the funds from his renters to rent-a-hottie.
Maybe one or two per month?

Yes, that's the way to get sex in the least costly method.

[Chelseaboy]

He is too unreasonable in his expectations and his attitude is not conducive
for success.

I don't think there is any possibility that Trench can change or improve himself
or his possibilities. In my opinion, he is probably best suited to save his money
and rent a hottie from time to time. When his remodeling project is
complete in 2024, he could use the funds from his renters to rent-a-hottie.
Maybe one or two per month?

You've posted what i've been thinking would be Trench's best option for a long time.


The kind of girl Trench likes ( pretty and tarty ) isn't going to be interested in a relationship with him because he doesn't have the financial clout to pull and keep her...or he isn't a tough guy/bad boy which many of them seem to gravitate toward.


Renting one once or twice a month ( she'll certainly be tarty enough ) will give him plenty of choice,no getting scammed with false feelings so no heartache.


Lusting after women  that are very attractive and tarty can bring a lot of heartache...unless you're loaded with cash.


I knew a young guy in England who earnt good money as a chartered Accountant £50 k a year ten years ago..living with his mum so no mortgage or rent to pay either.


His problem was he was addicted to lap-dancing/stripper girls...normally Eastern European or Latin girls.


He'd go to the lap-dancing clubs and these girls would whisper sweet nothings in his ear while he's thrusting £20  notes into their stocking-tops/suspender-belts/garters...and buying them Champagne.


"Oh yeah honey i'd love to go on a date with you..you're my kind of guy " they'd say and then they'd meet their husband/boyfriend/girlfriend when it was the end of their shift...and he'd be left alone at the end of the night...again.


The problem was that when he went to nightclubs or bars with his friends he didn't fancy the normal girls he met..he was too addicted to attempting to pull a stripper hottie.


I'd say to him " You must know by now those stripper girls are using you ? "


He'd say " yeah but i live in hope..normal girls don't do it for me...i really want a hottie girlfriend/wife ".


The poor guy was miserable as it ate away at him...he's probably still looking now after the two year Covid break...hoping to catch one who's single and actually likes him enough to date him.

[Trenchcoat]

You've posted what i've been thinking would be Trench's best option for a long time.


The kind of girl Trench likes ( pretty and tarty ) isn't going to be interested in a relationship with him because he doesn't have the financial clout to pull and keep her...or he isn't a tough guy/bad boy which many of them seem to gravitate toward.


Renting one once or twice a month ( she'll certainly be tarty enough ) will give him plenty of choice,no getting scammed with false feelings so no heartache.


Lusting after women  that are very attractive and tarty can bring a lot of heartache...unless you're loaded with cash.


I knew a young guy in England who earnt good money as a chartered Accountant £50 k a year ten years ago..living with his mum so no mortgage or rent to pay either.


His problem was he was addicted to lap-dancing/stripper girls...normally Eastern European or Latin girls.


He'd go to the lap-dancing clubs and these girls would whisper sweet nothings in his ear while he's thrusting £20  notes into their stocking-tops/suspender-belts/garters...and buying them Champagne.


"Oh yeah honey i'd love to go on a date with you..you're my kind of guy " they'd say and then they'd meet their husband/boyfriend/girlfriend when it was the end of their shift...and he'd be left alone at the end of the night...again.


The problem was that when he went to nightclubs or bars with his friends he didn't fancy the normal girls he met..he was too addicted to attempting to pull a stripper hottie.


I'd say to him " You must know by now those stripper girls are using you ? "


He'd say " yeah but i live in hope..normal girls don't do it for me...i really want a hottie girlfriend/wife ".


The poor guy was miserable as it ate away at him...he's probably still looking now after the two year Covid break...hoping to catch one who's single and actually likes him enough to date him.

The guy was going about it all wrong CB, he should have done a Peter Stringfellow and opened his own strip bars That way the strippers would look up to him rather than see him as a mug and possibly a bit of a loser. In addition to the women likely being more genuinely interested he would get to know their status more easily, have more to choose from even work it so the ones that seemed interested in him got the gigs.

So it's kind of the same for me, I may not be all that wealthy a guy, here but over there in the FSU if I carry on a relationship that stays in the FSU then those girls will be none the wiser. To them I'm a wealthy 'businessman' who can support her well out there where the local guys can't. If she is one of those girls who doesn't want to move abroad then I am a good option for her. I don't have to be a millionaire in the west for her to live a comfortable life and be happy. While I like pretty girls it's not quite an immovable Criteria, I've come across girls who are every day looking that could do it for me, not as often but it's possible. I'm also not looking for a runway model likely just a girl who is a bit pretty and who turns me on. I think this is doable I've just got to finish the house and get out there.

[Trenchcoat]

He is too unreasonable in his expectations and his attitude is not conducive
for success.

I don't think there is any possibility that Trench can change or improve himself
or his possibilities. In my opinion, he is probably best suited to save his money
and rent a hottie from time to time. When his remodeling project is
complete in 2024, he could use the funds from his renters to rent-a-hottie.
Maybe one or two per month?

Maybe if he sought out a Russian woman who is 3 years younger than himself
(and not a day younger) he could find a very attractive woman who would settle
for him.

A lot of women don't care 2tallbill, they don't care if the guy is way older than him. All a lit of women care about is whether the guy is a good provider. Hell even here in the west if a guy fits the frame there are girls who won't care. Once my place is done I could toddle into town and try my luck and odds are because I own my place outright, am a single guy, I could potentially pick up a girl many years younger than me. Many young guys these days don't own their own home, aren't likely too, they may even struggle to find a job and/or stay in it. Rent in the UK at the moment is going through the roof so a guy like me could potentially find a girl in the UK. It all depends on what her expectations are, what my expectations are, the area, etc.

I generally don't go for UK women as the feminist culture over here now has messed things up and you've got to be 'real careful'. There are many girls up to all silly sorts of games and a good decent relationship where the couple do right by each other isn't necessarily easy to get these days. Girls in the UK really are up to all sorts of antics these days to try and make things work for them. Guys basically have to be pretty self aware, on the ball or get lucky and get a decent girl. It all this feminist way about equality that has done it all really.

[Trenchcoat]

Been considering girls with big boobs recently. I can kind of see the attraction, I mean bigger than just the handful each side. Bulgarian girls in particular seem to have big boobs, unfortunately Bulgaria is a part of the EU and has only been a couple of years since we left. On the other hand again if a girl wanted to remain in her home country it might work as again I would be from a wealthier part of the world. Here is a map that shows where the biggest boobs can be found throughout the world:

http://www.worlddata.info/average-breastsize.php

The data can be a bit skewed as in the west there are a lot more obese women so they tend to have bigger boobs as a result. Ideally the data should have been calculated with BMI stats for each woman but likely difficulty getting that data as BMI is not something every woman automatically knows.

So the UK, US, etc shows higher boob size and not what reality really is from the stats. Bulgaria though can be seen as having larger boob size than normal for most of Eastern Europe. Not sure why if it's just genetic make up, diet or something going on there but it could be the place to head for all big boob lovers out there

[Chelseaboy]

Been considering girls with big boobs recently. I can kind of see the attraction, I mean bigger than just the handful each side. Bulgarian girls in particular seem to have big boobs, unfortunately Bulgaria is a part of the EU and has only been a couple of years since we left. On the other hand again if a girl wanted to remain in her home country it might work as again I would be from a wealthier part of the world. Here is a map that shows where the biggest boobs can be found throughout the world:

http://www.worlddata.info/average-breastsize.php

The data can be a bit skewed as in the west there are a lot more obese women so they tend to have bigger boobs as a result. Ideally the data should have been calculated with BMI stats for each woman but likely difficulty getting that data as BMI is not something every woman automatically knows.

So the UK, US, etc shows higher boob size and not what reality really is from the stats. Bulgaria though can be seen as having larger boob size than normal for most of Eastern Europe. Not sure why if it's just genetic make up, diet or something going on there but it could be the place to head for all big boob lovers out there

That really surprises me.


I spent some time in Sofia around twenty five years ago and saw plenty of good-looking  slim women but they all had flat chests...which was a turn-off for me.


Maybe they've all been having boob jobs ?

[BC]

http://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/breast-size-by-country

[krimster2]

Trench,

you’ve been watching too much porn again, now haven’t you?
Hmmm hmmmm…

forget about big tits flopping around on your computer monitor for just a moment, OK?

The REAL quality to look for in a woman:

is agreeableness!

How easy to get along with is she?
Kind? Like to do things for you, doesn’t get impatient or angry?
doesn’t argue or yell or complain?

If you find a woman like that, then for your sake I hope SHE DOES have REALLY BIG tits as well!!

[2tallbill]

A lot of women don't care 2tallbill, they don't care if the guy is way older than him. All a lit of women care about is whether the guy is a good provider.

Yes, they do. What is "all a lit women?"
I forgot your age but it's mid 40's if I remember correctly.

You are doing your unteachable idiot thing again where you know of an
exception that agrees with your modus operandi so you reject any other
strategies, methods or tactics. So instead of even trying to understand
my theory you dismiss it without consideration.

You will write young FSUW exclusively because in rare cases it might possibly
work, rather than something that would be far more successful and you will
fail every time because you are push the envelope when you are a perfect
textbook case study of someone who can't do that. 

1. You are as poor/broke as anybody who has ever done this.
2. You have the lowest level of social skills of anyone who has
ever done this.
3. Your Russian language skills are nearly zero.
4. You don't live in a tropical paradise with white sand beaches.
5. You have very, very little experience dating women.
6. You have a terrible mostly unhealthy view of women.
7. You are totally paranoid of getting scammed.
8. You are not above average good looking
9. You don't have an athletic body
10. You procrastinate and have a very low level of self discipline.
11. You lack confidence

Did I miss something?

You have Zero characteristics of somebody who can pursue a younger
woman.

HOWEVER, you have one thing and only one thing going for you.

FSUW once they reach the age of 40 are treated like milk past the expiration
date. Therefore there is a giant surplus of women who desire companionship
and marriage and there is a very real shortage of men willing to remotely
consider marrying them.

If you had a teachable brain (you don't) then you would search every
single woman age 39 and above in the entire FSU and write to the
hottest women of that group.

Some of those women would settle for you and live in near poverty
because they are lonely and want love and companionship. They
would put up with you because they have no realistic alternatives. 
You are too stupid to do that. You would be happy beyond your
wildest dreams but you are unable to do that because you have
made up your mind already.

That's the facts Jack

[2tallbill]

That really surprises me.

Really, it really surprises you that Trench has it all wrong?
Women in Bulgaria are mostly slim with mostly smaller
breasts just like all your anecdotal experiences have
shown you.

If Trench wanted women with larger breasts he should go
hunting in Central/South America. Learning Spanish/Portuguese
is far easier than learning Russian.

BUT, Trench can't afford the airfare. He would be paying similar to
what us Americans/Canadians/Ozzies/Kiwi's have to pay travel to
Eastern Europe.

Therefore Trench came up with a fantasy that Bulgarian women
have larger breasts. Bulgaria is part of the EU and Trench doesn't
have the requisite income to pursue a woman in Bulgaria especially
a hot one with big sweater puppets.

"The average salary in Bulgaria is 39,600 BGN (Bulgarian Lev) per annum.
It equates to approximately USD 22,263, according to the exchange rate
in March 2022.₁"


1. http://biz30.timedoctor.com/average-salary-in-bulgaria/

[Trenchcoat]

Really, it really surprises you that Trench has it all wrong?
Women in Bulgaria are mostly slim with mostly smaller
breasts just like all your anecdotal experiences have
shown you.

If Trench wanted women with larger breasts he should go
hunting in Central/South America. Learning Spanish/Portuguese
is far easier than learning Russian.

BUT, Trench can't afford the airfare. He would be paying similar to
what us Americans/Canadians/Ozzies/Kiwi's have to pay travel to
Eastern Europe.

Therefore Trench came up with a fantasy that Bulgarian women
have larger breasts. Bulgaria is part of the EU and Trench doesn't
have the requisite income to pursue a woman in Bulgaria especially
a hot one with big sweater puppets.

"The average salary in Bulgaria is 39,600 BGN (Bulgarian Lev) per annum.
It equates to approximately USD 22,263, according to the exchange rate
in March 2022.₁"


1. http://biz30.timedoctor.com/average-salary-in-bulgaria/

Lol, I thought I hadn't the money to go to South America just as I was reading your line

South America is a long way, if I was living in the US I would go there for sure, it just makes more sense to my mind to go somewhere nearby. So long as we're not talking real dark skinned it would work in my mind. Not to say there is anything wrong with dark skin but it just wouldn't fit in my mind with what interests me.

So we're back to the 'average wage' thing.The average likely being a mean average not the mode average. Also the salary likely being before tax. Looking up Bulgaria GDP, they have the lowest GDP of any EU member state and hence are seen as the poorest EU member country. I've not been to Bulgaria but I reckon I could be in with a chance if I chose to go there.

From the figures you gave after tax I reckon I would have not too dissimilar income to the 'average salary' Bulgarian guy only that would be based of my house rental. I would have my hands free to be a man of leisure and sort out other streams of income potentially as well as date