Trench's Questions and Philosophies

[krimster2]

multi-cultural english, jafaican
yes love it, even the body language that goes with it
didn't know it was called that, I guess folks is like polite with me
never heard actual cockney except in movies
at least with multi-cultural english, a foreigner can follow easily
but cockney, no way
my family has a very soft Rochdale accent

[John Gaunt]

multi-cultural english, jafaican
yes love it, even the body language that goes with it
didn't know it was called that, I guess folks is like polite with me
never heard actual cockney except in movies
at least with multi-cultural english, a foreigner can follow easily
but cockney, no way
my family has a very soft Rochdale accent

I’ll stick with RP, thanks.

[krimster2]

quite...

[Trenchcoat]

Well to be honest I'm not really into marking girls as 7, 8, 10 but it's the easiest way to express how things are I guess. I know they are probably roughly ratung me. This is the big problem of online dating that you often need to just get your foot in the door I'm finding, keep on casual stuff you can't be judge on too much early on and once they get to know you they tend to drop the rating stuff somewhat, no doubt like we do unless you really start to disappoint I think.

Well on the London East End accent Krim I think you have it more sounding like a black or muslim type of guy tends to talk - I find a lot of the way they talk tends to get mistaken for east end accent perhaps even by themselves if they have grown up on London.

I was originally born in Maidstone and grew up there for a number of years before my family moved to the South Coast of England. It's just a little east outside of London but still in the county of Kent where East London is and I guess the heart of the East London/Cockney accent. My English teacher in High School told me I have an accent similar to an East London accent. Similar in that both the East London accent and the Maidstone/Kentish accent there is a tendency for the speaker to drop the 't' of a lit of the words he or she pronounces. Not so much if the word starts with a 't' so they would say 'rain' instead of 'train' lol or they wouldn't be understood by many people at all but instead words with 't' in the middle or at the end wit the 't' ending up a soft 't' you ba rely if at all hear. So 'ain't' might be pronounced 'ain' or the word 'critter' would likely be pronounced crit..er with less emphasis on the 't'.

For years I used to have people come up and know exactly where I was from just from hearing me speak. Not a lot but occasionally and I could be miles away from any where near London or the county of Kent.

I have an Uncle that has lived in the East End all his life and he never uses any Cockney slang, he probably knows some but I think it's something that has grown up recently. I don't think a lot of genuine East Enders speak it as tradition it's more of just a fun thing that has come along the way I think.

I'm not sure if I have a Kent accent now, I've lived away from the area so long I've probably lost it a fair bit, I have had anyone say anything in years so probably less noticeable now if at all. Main thing I think if you are going to try and fake the accent I think is too not overdo it and try too hard. I find it is almost a dead give away if someone is too deliberate in their emphasis of it, they really talk if up a lot more than they should - a lot of blacks/Muslims living in London may do this to sound more London than they actually are. So you've got to relax when doing it, less is more as they say. So not too much pointed emphasis on words you drop the 't' on like 'ain't'. Just say whatever the sentence is in one flowing motion with pretty much the same pitch and tone throughout, then you'll come off as proper cockney

[krimster2]

I know Kent well!
used to sit on a roof and watch the ships
talk about architecture!!!!

[Trenchcoat]

I know Kent well!
used to sit on a roof and watch the ships
talk about architecture!!!!

They have some pretty towns & villages in Kent and off course all the Oast houses are lovely, many of which have been converted to dwellings now.

[msmob]

I was originally born in Maidstone

My best mate of 47 years lives there and I reckon you live in Hants / Dorset, now  - no need to confirm - which is scary given my youngest lives there ))

She is 19 and her b/f of two years is of the same age group ....   

Sort of blows your notion that good looking Brit lasses would be looking for a 'rich' guy with a car and house ...




..and NO ..I'm not worried about anyone trying to find her ..even sting23 ..as it's an image SHE posted

[krimster2]

WOW! what an absolutely LOVELY girl!!!!!!!!
a true English "rose"
I assume in University....
and that she takes after her mother appearance wise 

I bet she has a personality to match her appearance
i remove my hat and curtsy...
don't worry, 19 is too old for you know who....
(seriously, did he post another cemetery story, any good?)

trench, if you have an east end accent and NOT "RP" that could be a problem!!!
I know that some people are VERY judgemental about that, some are in my family
look at John Gaunt above...
if you're from Kent, wouldn't you have southern UK English, I've heard this accent and it sounds fine even for the judgemental types
but an east end accent would NOT be fine

never heard the term multi-cultural English accent or Jaflacan (which I assume is derogatory, hope I just didn't say the "N" word for the UK

but it's what i've heard spoken in London, seems to be a generational thing, only younger people speak this
and I'm pretty sure back in the 70s it didn't sound this way at ALL!!

I like this accent, it just seems to flow for me...

[John Gaunt]

Well to be honest I'm not really into marking girls as 7, 8, 10 but it's the easiest way to express how things are I guess. I know they are probably roughly ratung me. This is the big problem of online dating that you often need to just get your foot in the door I'm finding, keep on casual stuff you can't be judge on too much early on and once they get to know you they tend to drop the rating stuff somewhat, no doubt like we do unless you really start to disappoint I think.

Well on the London East End accent Krim I think you have it more sounding like a black or muslim type of guy tends to talk - I find a lot of the way they talk tends to get mistaken for east end accent perhaps even by themselves if they have grown up on London.

It’s called the MLE accent- a fusion of African, Asian, East End. More cultural enrichment.....

I was originally born in Maidstone and grew up there for a number of years before my family moved to the South Coast of England. It's just a little east outside of London but still in the county of Kent where East London is and I guess the heart of the East London/Cockney accent. My English teacher in High School told me I have an accent similar to an East London accent. Similar in that both the East London accent and the Maidstone/Kentish accent there is a tendency for the speaker to drop the 't' of a lit of the words he or she pronounces. Not so much if the word starts with a 't' so they would say 'rain' instead of 'train' lol or they wouldn't be understood by many people at all but instead words with 't' in the middle or at the end wit the 't' ending up a soft 't' you ba rely if at all hear. So 'ain't' might be pronounced 'ain' or the word 'critter' would likely be pronounced crit..er with less emphasis on the 't'.

For years I used to have people come up and know exactly where I was from just from hearing me speak. Not a lot but occasionally and I could be miles away from any where near London or the county of Kent.

I have an Uncle that has lived in the East End all his life and he never uses any Cockney slang, he probably knows some but I think it's something that has grown up recently. I don't think a lot of genuine East Enders speak it as tradition it's more of just a fun thing that has come along the way I think.

I'm not sure if I have a Kent accent now, I've lived away from the area so long I've probably lost it a fair bit, I have had anyone say anything in years so probably less noticeable now if at all. Main thing I think if you are going to try and fake the accent I think is too not overdo it and try too hard. I find it is almost a dead give away if someone is too deliberate in their emphasis of it, they really talk if up a lot more than they should - a lot of blacks/Muslims living in London may do this to sound more London than they actually are. So you've got to relax when doing it, less is more as they say. So not too much pointed emphasis on words you drop the 't' on like 'ain't'. Just say whatever the sentence is in one flowing motion with pretty much the same pitch and tone throughout, then you'll come off as proper cockney

That doesn’t make sense. South Coast is Brighton way, east of London you’re talking Dartford/Gravesend, both s**t holes, if you ask me.

[John Gaunt]

WOW! what an absolutely LOVELY girl!!!!!!!!
a true English "rose"
I assume in University....
and that she takes after her mother appearance wise 

I bet she has a personality to match her appearance
i remove my hat and curtsy...
don't worry, 19 is too old for you know who....
(seriously, did he post another cemetery story, any good?)

trench, if you have an east end accent and NOT "RP" that could be a problem!!!
I know that some people are VERY judgemental about that, some are in my family
look at John Gaunt above...
if you're from Kent, wouldn't you have southern UK English, I've heard this accent and it sounds fine even for the judgemental types
but an east end accent would NOT be fine

never heard the term multi-cultural English accent or Jaflacan (which I assume is derogatory, hope I just didn't say the "N" word for the UK

but it's what i've heard spoken in London, seems to be a generational thing, only younger people speak this
and I'm pretty sure back in the 70s it didn't sound this way at ALL!!

I like this accent, it just seems to flow for me...

Of course, people are judgemental. About everything, your clothes, shoes, appearance, accent. We don’t go around sniffing arseholes like dogs do so our visual and audio clues give us the information we need about the people we encounter.

Trench’s accent is the least of his problems, I suspect know.

[msmob]

WOW! what an absolutely LOVELY girl!!!!!!!!
a true English "rose"

Her Dad's parentage Irish .. her Ma's 50 percent Irish - so the 'English' part is only 25 % ))

I assume in University....
and that she takes after her mother appearance wise 

Ha !  I wish ..  Her older sis is the academic .. #2 has her Mum's biz acumen and looks ... ?  Pretty much mostly Ma ..

I bet she has a personality to match her appearance

Feisty.. opinionated, confident and prone to shock from the earliest age...   )

[krimster2]

please don't tell me that on top of how beautiful she is,  that she also has an Irish accent, that would be overkill!
unfair to all other women

[krimster2]

“We don’t go around sniffing arseholes like dogs do”

well...
on second thought, never mind....

[krimster2]

John,

embrace the world John, it's the only one you have...

however, if you like the good ole days, you can always move to Essex

[BdHvA]

Jay & Moby,

Get a tent, bring vaseline.

Go to Cornwall, today or tomorrow.

"You guys can be tent mates, tell all of RWD about all the great rides you had.

Av

[krimster2]

"Get a tent, bring vaseline."

what is it you had in mind? 

[Jumper]

please don't tell me that on top of how beautiful she is,  that she also has an Irish accent, that would be overkill!
unfair to all other women

My first wife was Irish. (Passed away)
An amazing women everyone loved.
I fell for her in about a day..lol granted she felt the same so we never really parted after that first meeting ,love at first sight and all that. It does occur.

[krimster2]

very sorry for your loss, I don't want to imagine what that must feel like


"love at first sight and all that. It does occur."

yes, yes, and it's one of life's most beautiful experiences
not everyone gets to share it, world would be such a better place if they did
thank you for reminding me how precious life is, and how transitory...
but now I has the sadz and should go play with the dog to feel better

[JayH]

Jay & Moby,

Get a tent, bring vaseline.

Go to Cornwall, today or tomorrow.

"You guys can be tent mates, tell all of RWD about all the great rides you had.

Av

Is that aimed at me?   Or the J in John Gaunt?
No idea what that post is about.

I did not comment on the surfing issue in the expectation that someone would actually know something about it !  It seems the answer was a NO !!

There is quite a lot of surfing in the UK  -- some years ago I recall seeing --particularly in Wales -- and I saw surfing gear being sold in many stores that I attended in relation to my more specific interests. There are also UK surfing mags and a UK surf industry.
I know of many places that surfing is very real in UK.


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[msmob]

Jay & Moby,

Get a tent, bring vaseline.

Go to Cornwall, today or tomorrow.

"You guys can be tent mates, tell all of RWD about all the great rides you had.

Av

I presume our BdHvA is referring to surf boards ... ?     

He's not been too good at reading responses to his rather ignorant posts

[msmob]

please don't tell me that on top of how beautiful she is,  that she also has an Irish accent, that would be overkill!
unfair to all other women

))  No Irish accent .. born in England ... but a Francophile and living it up in Paris, right now

[msmob]

Is that aimed at me?   Or the J in John Gaunt?
No idea what that post is about.

Our BdHvA does seem somewhat confused, recently - doesn't he ?

[krimster2]

wow! 19 yr old and living in Paris, wow!!!
and of course you can hop on the eurostar and visit


I had a short term contract in Toulouse, Republique Francaise
probably 10% of the employees in "aerospace alley" were young brits
I thought they had the most AMAZING life, bi-lingual, urbane, spent their holidays on the Côte d'Azur or skiing in the alps
not bad for middle class kids fresh out of university
and your country gave this up...

[msmob]

wow! 19 yr old and living in Paris, wow!!!

on her holidays ( vacation ) !

and your country gave this up...

Don't mention the 'B' word ... at least they can be Irish and retain all the good of an EU passport and the Irish will never need a Visa for the UK

[Trenchcoat]

My best mate of 47 years lives there and I reckon you live in Hants / Dorset, now  - no need to confirm - which is scary given my youngest lives there ))

She is 19 and her b/f of two years is of the same age group ....   

Sort of blows your notion that good looking Brit lasses would be looking for a 'rich' guy with a car and house ...




..and NO ..I'm not worried about anyone trying to find her ..even sting23 ..as it's an image SHE posted

Pretty girl, Bournemouth Uni student perhaps?

Well if it's not money then she's probably gone fir a Mr Personality type of guy, a bit 'in crowdy'.

Let me guess, she posted the photo on Instagram