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Re: Two thousand new officers sworn in
« Reply #575 on: July 06, 2015, 08:34:31 PM »
Two thousand new police officers sworn in recently and pledged to not accept bribes. One out of five are said to be women.



REad the article below a few days ago. The new Ukrainian officers are US trained and are going to replace the current corrupt officers. If they act as good as they look, Ukrainians are in for a real treat.


Bad Boys, Bad Boys whacha going to do, whacha going to do when they come for you?
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: Two thousand new officers sworn in
« Reply #576 on: July 07, 2015, 03:34:53 PM »

REad the article below a few days ago. The new Ukrainian officers are US trained and are going to replace the current corrupt officers. If they act as good as they look, Ukrainians are in for a real treat.


Bad Boys, Bad Boys whacha going to do, whacha going to do when they come for you?

Yes, a while back they let go a large number of corrupt officers so these US trained officers look like the replacements. Looks like some progress is being made in the way of corruption.

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/two-prosecutors-arrested-in-bribe-sting-392859.html

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #577 on: July 07, 2015, 06:53:12 PM »

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #578 on: July 07, 2015, 07:31:30 PM »
That tattoo on her forearm spoils it big time...  :(

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #579 on: July 08, 2015, 12:35:43 AM »
I don't  like tats either, but as long as she is not corrupt............
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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #580 on: July 08, 2015, 06:08:59 PM »
That tattoo on her forearm spoils it big time...  :(

For me, too.  :thumbsdown:

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #581 on: July 08, 2015, 07:15:36 PM »
Go To The Police

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #582 on: July 08, 2015, 07:23:39 PM »
That tattoo on her forearm spoils it big time...  :(


I don't  like tats either, but as long as she is not corrupt............


For me, too.  :thumbsdown:


Come on guys! Get with the times it isn't 1977, you cavemen...If you guys can all shave your armpits and nuts, this woman sure as hell can have a little tattoo!   Give it another 50 years, and soon women will have beards and men will be wearing high heels and mascara.




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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #583 on: July 08, 2015, 10:52:01 PM »
   Give it another 50 years, and soon women will have beards and men will be wearing high heels and mascara.


Maybe you can go into a cryostasis sleep for 50 years to see if this will become reality.  ;)

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #584 on: July 09, 2015, 12:07:27 AM »
Russian ambassador invites Vilnius mayor to Crimea.

Reply: "I'll go when the Ukrainian ambassador invites me."
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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #585 on: July 09, 2015, 04:12:45 AM »
Russian ambassador invites Vilnius mayor to Crimea.

Reply: "I'll go when the Ukrainian ambassador invites me."

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SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #586 on: July 09, 2015, 04:16:23 AM »
More potential planks to the future  with the EU are progressing to closer to happening-this is a very important one.




Ratification on the march" - the list of countries that hinder an agreement with Ukraine reduced


"The European Pravda" continues to monitor the progress of ratification of the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU.
This issue - not just a formality. Thus, the agreement now "temporarily performed" by agreement between Kyiv and the EU, but the document is not legally valid.
And this is what makes Moscow a pretext to demand again and again deferred action Ukrainian Association, including - of the trade agreement.
Moreover ratified by even one of the countries will have consequences for the entire European Union.
Over the last month the number of countries in the "risk zone" decreased. Red color on the map marked with the EU only Greece and Cyprus.
Instead, Austria, which is the end of June was also "red" interrupted "blockade" and finally started approving our contract - this month approved a treaty with the Ukraine Committee of the National Assembly, and the July 8 agreement approved in the session hall.

http://www.eurointegration.com.ua/articles/2015/07/9/7035732/
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #587 on: July 09, 2015, 05:16:34 PM »
Can someone give an updated status of exactly what needs to happen now, for Ukraine to be ratified?
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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #588 on: July 10, 2015, 08:56:21 AM »
Interesting assessment of why the US backed off on supplying weapons to Ukraine, and what they need to do about it:

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/how-russian-lobbyists-are-manipulating-american-perceptions-of-the-ukraine-conflict/
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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #589 on: July 11, 2015, 02:07:05 PM »
If this is how the "great leaders" of Europe are going to react because they don't like how Poroshenko and the Ukrainian government are moving, then there is no hope for Ukraine at all.

German Chancellor Angel Merkel and French President Francois Hollande took the rare step Friday of pressing Ukraine's Western-backed leader to ensure partial self-rule for the pro-Russian separatist east.

The blunt message from two of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko's most important allies marked another sign of European impatience with fighting that still engulfs the ex-Soviet nation five months after the signing of a broad truce...


Read the full story here.

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-leader-warns-terror-threat-peaceful-cities-181025031.html

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #590 on: July 11, 2015, 07:37:48 PM »
If this is how the "great leaders" of Europe are going to react because they don't like how Poroshenko and the Ukrainian government are moving, then there is no hope for Ukraine at all.

German Chancellor Angel Merkel and French President Francois Hollande took the rare step Friday of pressing Ukraine's Western-backed leader to ensure partial self-rule for the pro-Russian separatist east.

The blunt message from two of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko's most important allies marked another sign of European impatience with fighting that still engulfs the ex-Soviet nation five months after the signing of a broad truce...


Read the full story here.

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-leader-warns-terror-threat-peaceful-cities-181025031.html

I have been alarmed with Europe's response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.  It was quite an eye opener.  It has caused me to wonder why the hell the USA taxpayers are providing so much funding for NATO and the European's are not.  Should the US taxpayers be funding the defense of Europe, especially with the attitude many of them have toward the US?

The post made about Ukraine's failure to provide adequate lobbying of our government might well be true.  I had never thought about that.  After all, we have the best politicians that money can buy.      :D
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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #591 on: July 11, 2015, 09:35:05 PM »
The blunt message from two of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko's most important allies marked another sign of European impatience with fighting that still engulfs the ex-Soviet nation five months after the signing of a broad truce...[/i][/color]



It's easier to tell the Ukrainian president to give in than to tell Putin to give up Europe learned. Minsk 2 agreement said Ukraine will let the regions in conflict vote on austerity. Poroshenko agreed to that but he said the rebels must turn in their arms and the vote must be monitored by international community. Rebels and Russia didn't like that. Is it possible they will lose if they can't rig the vote? Because austerity isn't happening, Merkel and Hollande is losing patience and their economy suffers so they are pressuring Poroshenko to take the initial steps towards breaking up his country. Like dealing with Iran, it's another case of rewarding bad behavior. I think Germany and France should give up a piece of their real estate to get Russia to back off.
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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #592 on: July 12, 2015, 07:42:30 AM »
It has caused me to wonder why the hell the USA taxpayers are providing so much funding for NATO and the European's are not.  Should the US taxpayers be funding the defense of Europe, especially with the attitude many of them have toward the US?

We should be taxing the Europeans to cover our costs.

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #593 on: July 12, 2015, 07:57:12 AM »
How are you going to tax them?


Contributions to NATO are based on a formula.  The US provides about 23% of NATO's funding. 



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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #594 on: July 12, 2015, 07:59:37 AM »
How are you going to tax them?


Contributions to NATO are based on a formula.  The US provides about 23% of NATO's funding.

If they fall short of their required expenditure ask them to lease the equipment like we currently do with Australia and the UK. I believe most of the countries currently in NATO do not even pay what is asked of them?

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #595 on: July 12, 2015, 08:04:14 AM »
The US provides about 23% of NATO's funding.

Source for this? I was under the impression the US carried the weight here. Up to about 75% of the costs from what I see...

http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2013/10/will-us-rebalance-its-contribution-nato/72281/


http://breakingdefense.com/2012/04/huge-nato-spending-gap-between-us-europeans-not-likely-to-shrin/

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #596 on: July 12, 2015, 08:06:10 AM »
There is a direct funding budget and an indirect funding budget.  The indirect budget is for military equipment in each country.  That is where there is a discrepancy.  Not in NATO's direct funding.
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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #597 on: July 12, 2015, 08:07:23 AM »
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #598 on: July 12, 2015, 08:07:54 AM »
After the fall of communism, the biggest mistake Boris Yeltsin's regime made was not to disband the KGB altogether. Instead it changed its name to the FSB and, to many observers, morphed into a gangster organisation, eventually headed by master criminal Vladimir Putin. - Gerard Batten

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Re: Ukraine-The Future
« Reply #599 on: July 12, 2015, 08:13:44 AM »
Source is here -

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm

The chart only shows "direct funding" and from your own source -

"Today,  the volume of the US defence expenditure effectively represents 73 per cent of  the defence spending of the Alliance as a whole."

The US is the primary source of additional and indirect funding. We carry NATO and Europe.

 

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