Russian Women Discussion
RWD News From the Front => Russian Front Discussion => Topic started by: msmob on November 13, 2018, 10:36:47 AM
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Some folks keep getting 'upset' when I refer to 'Trampu'
They EVEN tell me I'm being rude or do not understand Russian
So time for a RU Grammar lesson
(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1954/44038180260_3e2ceb1d55_b.jpg)
You see ? Trampu !
:D
Nominative: Tramp
Genitive: Trampa
Dative: Trampu
Accusative: Trampa
Instrumental: Trampom
Prepositional: o Trampe
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Source? Just because you found something on flickr that agrees with something you said, a rarity, does not make it a fact.
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A real live Russian speaker ...
Ask your wife.... :popcorn:
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A real live Russian speaker ...
Ask your wife.... :popcorn:
Why? You're not a real live Russian speaker. How would my wife know where you got this? Just post the source.
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Open any basic Russian grammar book. The declensions listed are accurate/correct.
There used to be one further declension, but it hasn't really been used in about 100 years, and has been merged with the prepositional declension.
In Ukrainian, there is one additional declension, the vocative. It is rarely used, but I can think of a couple of examples.
ETA - No google was used to compose this post.
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Why? You're not a real live Russian speaker. How would my wife know where you got this? Just post the source.
Are you THAT inattentive?
I meant check the Russian grammar with your good lady ... :wallbash:
I work with Russians and my t'other half is Russian
The source is not a form of A.I. ... or a web site ...they are real live human beings who understand RU grammar and speak / write - better in English that many so called native speakers
Edited to add
The screen grab image was from a press summary from rambler.ru
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It is interesting to note how most language families gradually shed declensions over centuries of use, but most retained remnants of them for their pronouns ::).
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Are you THAT inattentive?
I meant check the Russian grammar with your good lady ... :wallbash:
I work with Russians and my t'other half is Russian
The source is not a form of A.I. ... or a web site ...they are real live human beings who understand RU grammar and speak / write - better in English that many so called native speakers
Edited to add
The screen grab image was from a press summary from rambler.ru
Of course I checked with my wife, that's why I know you're wrong.
Trampu is the Russian Latin script of Russian Cyrillic for Trump's name under specific conditions. As she said when she's writing in English she doesn't use Russian Cyrillic or Latin script, she uses the English version.
IOW if you want to use the Russian Latin script write the entire sentence in Russian Latin script not just selected words.
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Some folks keep getting 'upset' when I refer to 'Trampu'
They EVEN tell me I'm being rude or do not understand Russian
You're getting your butt kicked hard on another forum on this issue and you drag it over here to get some sympathy. Not from me.
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Of course I checked with my wife, that's why I know you're wrong.
Trampu is the Russian Latin script of Russian Cyrillic for Trump's name under specific conditions. As she said when she's writing in English she doesn't use Russian Cyrillic or Latin script, she uses the English version.
IOW if you want to use the Russian Latin script write the entire sentence in Russian Latin script not just selected words.
The better half carries on whole conversations with friends and relatives on his laptop, transliterating Russian words into Latin script. He doesn't have a Cyrillic keyboard, and has to use one online, so it's significantly easier for him, and they have no issues understanding what he is writing. He corresponds with a former classmate from Denmark on occasion, and she responds with Russian words, Latin script, as well. He does have a virtual keyboard installed on his phone, so on his phone, he uses Cyrillic script.
"Trampu" is the dative case. I suppose using it in English would depend on the context. I don't have an issue with it, after all, this is a forum about all things FSU, so the use of Russian or Ukrainian words is not an issue.
Perhaps we could be like the incel elsewhere, and make a case for the "proper" use of declensions when using Russian words in English.
ETA - This post was composed without the aid of google.
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You're getting your butt kicked hard on another forum on this issue
1/ I did not drag it over here - I posted it here as some members HERE did not GET why I used the term..I refer to 'O'Bama', too . That could certainly be more easily offensive as that is not a grammatical FACT - as 'Trampu' is ...
2/ You being such a 'good Russian speaker' - like the 'experts' in a place you may be referring to - are hardly placed to realise that my butt is quite 'unmarked' ...
3/ Strange that someone so 'tuned-in to fake news' is once more a clueless patsy for same ;D
For those who care
Silly BillyB believes a REALLY smart Russian - who speaks (and certainly writes ) English to a higher std than many of us - wouldn't know RU grammar as well as a Brit guy and a Canadian of Chinese extraction ( who now claims to be an American)
:wallbash:
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Of course I checked with my wife, that's why I know you're wrong.[/quoite]
I'll tell the professor of Language Methodology and my Russian biz partner tomorrow that their educations were a waste ;)
Trampu is the Russian Latin script of Russian Cyrillic for Trump's name under specific conditions. As she said when she's writing in English she doesn't use Russian Cyrillic or Latin script, she uses the English version.
IOW if you want to use the Russian Latin script write the entire sentence in Russian Latin script not just selected words.
DaveNY, either you didn't explain to her and you are making this up - or you didn't show her the screen grab from Rambler's news feeds from a few days ago - which IS in Russian - I merely used latin script as a transliteration - for clarity
Трампу really is the dative form used for Tramp and arguing otherwise is just plain daft ...
I'd not be too keen to make my wife look daft to try to 'score a point ' .. so I'm going to assume the latter scenario
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Трампу really is the dative form used for Tramp and arguing otherwise is just plain daft ...
I don't believe he, or his wife, argued otherwise.
The only person who really made a case of this was Mr. Incel at the other place.
ETA - This post was composed without the aid of google.
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DaveNY, either you didn't explain to her and you are making this up - or you didn't show her the screen grab from Rambler's news feeds from a few days ago - which IS in Russian - I merely used latin script as a transliteration - for clarity
Трампу really is the dative form used for Tramp and arguing otherwise is just plain daft ...
I'd not be too keen to make my wife look daft to try to 'score a point ' .. so I'm going to assume the latter scenario
msmob when you post my quote please make sure you don't alter it. This is my post below. The bolded part is something you added. If you can't reply to my posts without altering them, don't reply to my posts.
Of course I checked with my wife, that's why I know you're wrong.[/quoite]
I'll tell the professor of Language Methodology and my Russian biz partner tomorrow that their educations were a waste ;)
Trampu is the Russian Latin script of Russian Cyrillic for Trump's name under specific conditions. As she said when she's writing in English she doesn't use Russian Cyrillic or Latin script, she uses the English version.
IOW if you want to use the Russian Latin script write the entire sentence in Russian Latin script not just selected words.
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DaveNY, either you didn't explain to her and you are making this up - or you didn't show her the screen grab from Rambler's news feeds from a few days ago - which IS in Russian - I merely used latin script as a transliteration - for clarity
Трампу really is the dative form used for Tramp and arguing otherwise is just plain daft ...
I'd not be too keen to make my wife look daft to try to 'score a point ' .. so I'm going to assume the latter scenario
Yes, my wife saw the screen grab. She sees many of the posts on RWD. She often reads posts and says "This person claims to have been in Russia? It must have been a different Russia than the Russia I grew up in."
She then went into far more detail about how the Russian language works than I needed to know. It dredged up memories of Russian language lessons. Good thing, no articles in Russian, no definite or indefinite articles. Bad thing Cyrillic alphabet, nouns and gender and declension in Russian. I get it.
Let's be honest msmob. You didn't use Trampu for clarity. You used it to try to make a funny. Like many of your posts it was BS.
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msmob when you post my quote please make sure you don't alter it. This is my post below. The bolded part is something you added. If you can't reply to my posts without altering them, don't reply to my posts.
Dear DaveNY
It is abundantly clear that the word [/quoite] appears - I added nought
A spelling mistake - making a coding error.
So, it THIS your latest attempt to deflect from the fact that at least two members KNOW that either:
1/ you didn't explain this use of 'Trampu', properly
or
2/ you must be lying
or
3/ your wife doesn't know RU grammar ?
Which speaking for myself - I SERIOUSLY doubt it's #3 .....
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Some folks keep getting 'upset' when I refer to 'Trampu'
They EVEN tell me I'm being rude or do not understand Russian
So time for a RU Grammar lesson
(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1954/44038180260_3e2ceb1d55_b.jpg)
You see ? Trampu !
:D
Nominative: Tramp
Genitive: Trampa
Dative: Trampu
Accusative: Trampa
Instrumental: Trampom
Prepositional: o Trampe
Grammer is correct.
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roSenQatlh quv ;)