FSU Agencies Not Charging Enough??

[Admin]

Stumbled across an article on CNN today. http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/24/pf/sixfigs_twelve/index.htm?cnn=yes

Looks like Jack and Kevin and Marc ought to consider raising their prices. What do you think?  

- Dan

[Bruno]

Interesting... 200 marriage from 1992... it is only 15 marriage year... and with her price, she can make a lot of publicity on several TV channel... and she work only in US

Take a look at  http://www.katiarencontres.com/infoscouples.htm for the marriage list from 2004... and only 250 euro inscription free without limit in the time... before, during and after marriage... and she work with FSU woman...

[Todd]

For what it is worth, the going rate for matchmaking services in Boston is somewhere between $100-$300 per date depending on the service and the number of date commitment.  So, the numbers quoted in that article strike me as a bit expensive, but not really all that extreme.

[TigerPaws]

Stumbled across an article on CNN today. http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/24/pf/sixfigs_twelve/index.htm?cnn=yes

Looks like Jack and Kevin and Marc ought to consider raising their prices. What do you think?

- Dan

Hum... Jack, Kevin I see a possibility for a business model catering to men in the 40 to 55 year old range with incomes starting in the mid six figure range. This would redefine the meaning of a "full service agency", with each girl being personally interviewed by agency personel, background checks, magazine quality photo's and TV quality video interviews, the clients (men) would under go similar backround checks, interviews, photo and video secessions.

 The exact wealth and social status of the men would be kept in the strictest of confidence so the men could get to know the ladies without fear of the girl being a gold digger. Counseling and education would be provided for the men as how to communicate in an effective manor. When meetings were arranged the agency would handle everything for the gentlemens travel doorstep to doorstep. If travel and accomidations were needed for the girls then again the agency handle all of the arrangements.

 Accommodations, translators, meals, entertainment arrangements and transportation would all be handled by the agency while the gentleman was in country. If a gentleman and lady did not match up well then the agency would handle the sorry but you are not the right girl for the gentleman. If a connection was made and the couple wanted to continue to get to know each other the agency would be available to assist in all of the communications as the couple requisted. The agency would be available to assist the gentleman with additional counseling and education as to how to proceed as required. If further meetings were required (recommended) then the agency would again handle everything for the gentleman, If the couple decided to follow through with a K1 then again the agency would handle off of the paper work most likely through a contract with a well respected immigration law firm.

 Of course this only scratches the surface of the services which would need to be provided and as a wild guess I would say 50 to 65 grand would be a good starting point. Still in know a number of men would seriously consider such a service especially if they could do so in near complete anonymity as to how much they were worth.

 

[Bruce]

Tiger - What you submit has alot of merit if relations with Russia were stable and at least improving, which if anything seems to be going down hill; clients could navigate easily through the BCINS, which is not getting any easier;  Russia was as safe as it once was to visit (now, if you travel to Russia alot of life insurance companies will not insure you), which is getting worse; scamming was not on the upswing (Jack or Marc can speak to that, but it seems like scamming is increasing if anything); the stigma of having a MOB would abate etc.  Therefore, I believe most guys, like my single friends / acquaintances are just too afraid to even bother messing with Russia.  They do not look at Russia or the FSU as a viable possibility for them to find a wife no matter what - which is better for the guys actually willing to commit to the process.  I believe the legitimate foreign dating business is actually a very difficult one for a businessman to make any money in.

[TigerPaws]

Tiger - What you submit has alot of merit if relations with Russia were stable and at least improving, which if anything seems to be going down hill; clients could navigate easily through the BCINS, which is not getting any easier;  Russia was as safe as it once was to visit (now, if you travel to Russia alot of life insurance companies will not insure you), which is getting worse; scamming was not on the upswing (Jack or Marc can speak to that, but it seems like scamming is increasing if anything); the stigma of having a MOB would abate etc.  Therefore, I believe most guys, like my single friends / acquaintances are just too afraid to even bother messing with Russia.  They do not look at Russia or the FSU as a viable possibility for them to find a wife no matter what - which is better for the guys actually willing to commit to the process.  I believe the legitimate foreign dating business is actually a very difficult one for a businessman to make any money in.

Bruce,

 While I agree the the BCINS has become a bit of a nightmare for most people, with the proper legal representation the system can be navigated with relative ease. As for Russia being safe, I disagree, Russia is as safe as you make it, if you look, act and travel to the wrong places yes you could very well be a victim, but that is not what I was talking about. If a man has the finical resources to enlist such an agency as I suggested and the agency was set up properly then security would not be an issue. As for your friends being too afraid to consider the FSU for a bride, these would not be the target clientele so it would not be an issue. For the men I am talking about something like this would have to make the process easy and painless with all of the details taken care of which is why I suggested the figure of 50 to 65 grand.

[Bruce]

Ah, I understand you completely now and definitely agree.  Someone like Jack could make a killing if he was able to market this correctly. 

[Jack]

sshhhhh, Bruce, quite please.

[TigerPaws]

sshhhhh, Bruce, quite please.

Lol, Jack,

 Anyone who believes an honest person in the agency business is getting rich is fooling themselves.

[Jack]

Your so right Tiger, you have to have a lot of love for what your doing to stay in this business because it's not for the money. Few honorable, ethical guys are making money as agency owners. Some guys, such as Kevin and Marc, have a pure, natural love for what their doing.

Their are some marriage agencies getting rich, although I am not sure if their wealth is coming from the porn business or arranging tours with a lot of really beautiful, questionable ladies attending their tours, or scamming men by pretending to be models who are writing men with great interest. Yea, like how many of those beautiful models are having to write guys to find someone

Look at Kevin, he is probably the most honest guy I know in this industry. He is a wonderful asset to this and every honorable, ethical Russian discussion board. WHAT Russian discussion board would not want Kevin? And when he tries to expose scam, scammers, scam agencies he catches a lot of BS, just as I used to get for exposing scams from some of the bigger agencies.

Marc's not so much into exposing scams but if he were you could be sure he would not be wanted on some of the Russian discussion boards that do not want scam agencies exposed, or agencies that publish things like the following in there hidden meta tags word.

Tell me, what kind of clients are these type of agency business owners trying to attract who publish words like this,...

russian slave girls

russian girls for sale

russian escorts


drunk naked girls
13 year old naked girls
15 year old girls naked

russian prostitutes

russian cunts

russian whores

ukrainian preteen[/b]

moscow escort

little russian girls busty

russian virgins

ukrainian sex

fingering themselves

russian girls for free

nasty russian girls

Two agencies, between them, had all these words and a lot more hidden in an attempt to draw their type of clients,...www.Khersonbrides.com and Get Married Now.

Wow, what type Russian discussion board would want these type of agencies to have an active role on there sites? Thank goodness Dan has more class and honor than to be associated with agencies involved with porno or agencies who are seeking clients who are after 13 year old Russian virgins.

 
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[TigerPaws]

Jack,

 I am not going to pick on any agency, the bad ones are well known and anyone who is interested can find out about them. My original post was in reference to the linked article about high end dating services and how much they charge. There is no question that there is a market for such a full service agency as I suggested operating in say Russia. The issue would be getting the word out about the agency which could be done through the proper advertising in about 1/2 dozen mens magazines catering to men with the finical resoures to employ such a full service agency. The issue for the owners of the agency would be to have in place and on the payroll the necessary staff to handle the mens needs before they began their search for a lady from the FSU, then while they were in country right through to the girl arriving in the U.S. and if necessary for some time beyond.

 I would imagine that out of say a $60,000.00 dollar retainer for such a service at least $45,000.00 would be used to pay for various expenses. So in order to make a good living at this someone would have to handle at least 20 to 25 clients a year which would mean a staff of around 8 here in America not including short term contractors to handle things photography and video tapeing the client as well as legal counsel on retainer. Then at least another 10 to 12 people in counrty, for things like translations (written and verbal), driver(s), travel agent(s) office staff, web master as well as a host of other support personel.

 Over all revenues could easily top a million per year but of course expenses would be in the 80% range, still that would leave a fair profet, which after all is what being in business is all about.

[Kevin]

It is interesting to read this post.  I could triple my income and acutally pay myself  if I fired 8 staff members, removed 95 percent of my clients and most of my ladies. I would need about 20-30 models, 3 staff members and charge $5000-$10,000 per engagement.. There are agency in Ukraine already doing this and it takes a lot less work.

But don't worry I am not in this for the money, I do it because I enjoy it.  I based my rates on my operating cost + 10 percent so we can have some extra for the children fund.  

We charge $250-$300 for matchmaking service that  include interview as many ladies as need and introducing you to your top 5 when you arrive in Kherson. It is a lot of work but has high results.

Since there are three types of clients 1. Money no object. 2. Reasonable spending and 3. Tight wads . There are going to be agencies who specialize in each group. 

The best news is that over the last couple of years the number of Honest agencies has increased and the word is out about scam agencies.

[TigerPaws]

Kevin,

 I am very happy that you can do this for your own personal enjoyment and I am in no way disparaging your business model, I am just suggesting that there are many ways to make money and be honest at the same time. I guess the businessman in me hears about an oppertunity and I can not help but think about the possibilities. But do not worry I am not the least bit interested in doing anything like you do or anything else anymore, too much like work.