More Bad News for Russia

[Muzh]

A vote? You mean a farce arranged and orchestrated out of Russia with zero scrutiny allowed by anyone else?A vote with a pre determined outcome !
All at the point of Russian guns of thugs and criminals-- yeah-that it the Russian way.
Can't you get it through your thick skull that Russia has NO raeson to have any say in what happens IN UKRAINE !!!!!

You continue to swallow Putins  bs--the idea that the people in eastern Ukraine  want to leave Ukraine is not-- and has not been supported in any poll. Even more so now for those that can see what Russian rule means.

Goddamnit Jay. Can't you fcuking read? He said excatly that.

[JayH]

It's not the perspective, it's almost certain future. Right now roughly 50% of Ukrainians 

Head of the Donetsk administration demanded the return to Ukraine of its ancestral lands - Krasnodar region and part of the Kursk, Bryansk, Voronezh and Rostov regions


Head of Donetsk administration is convinced that the situation in the occupied territories of 50 to 50, because, despite the brainwashing, according Zhebrivskyi, 50% of the population is waiting for the return of the Ukrainian army.
http://www.dialog.ua/news/87968_1465302927

[BC]

I understand your pragmatism, but what you are asking is the Ukrainian people to bend over and take it like a man. I don't think you'd be happy with Ben Dover as you cell mate.

Muzh,

Borders and alliances have changed for millennia and will keep changing in the future. I do believe that peoples have a right to self determination if freedom of movement and basic human rights are guaranteed.  I don't believe your prison cell analogy is accurate.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

[AkMike]

The Kerch bridge project t is having money problems..  It seems that Russia hasn't made any payments since Feb. 

Another report said since Dec and that one said work has stopped

http://www.unian.stfi.re/economics/1369143-construction-of-kerch-strait-bridge-faces-funding-constraints.html?sf=ezpykdb#aa

http://uatoday.tv/politics/construction-of-kerch-strait-bridge-faces-funding-constraints-669074.html

[Boethius]

BC, here is an article on the current situation in terms of Kyiv's problems in fulfilling its Minsk II obligations -


http://ukrainianweek.com/Politics/165974

[msmobyone]

The Kerch bridge project t is having money problems..  It seems that Russia hasn't made any payments since Feb. 

Another report said since Dec and that one said work has stopped

http://www.unian.stfi.re/economics/1369143-construction-of-kerch-strait-bridge-faces-funding-constraints.html?sf=ezpykdb#aa

http://uatoday.tv/politics/construction-of-kerch-strait-bridge-faces-funding-constraints-669074.html

Sure, it's growing longer all by itself ....

[JayH]

Sure, it's growing longer all by itself ....

You better let the company know !
How much easier if they just asked Moby!

Own resources "exhausted" company

Suspended finance the construction of the bridge Kerch


Suspended finance the construction of the bridge Kerch. This is stated in a letter to the general director of the company Stroygazmontazh "Arkady Rotenberg Andrei Kirilenko in the name of the Deputy Transport Minister Eugene Dietrich, and the head of the Federal Road Agency Roman Starovoyt reports of Forbes .

According to the publication, last money for the construction company listed in December last year. Payment of 65.4 billion rubles planned for this year, "hung" due to prolonged bureaucratic procedures. Advance consumed, and on-site equipment is missing.

http://www.znak.com/2016-06-08/priostanovleno_stroitelstvo_kerchenskogo_mosta

Maybe Moby gets his "info" from this guy?

Sands does not know about the problems with the financing of construction of the bridge Kerch

http://ria.ru/economy/20160608/1444432377.html

[msmobyone]

BC

Frontiers - especially in Europe - used to change violently and the Balkan republics of Yugoslavia have broken up into constituent parts - with some more adjustment likely in Northern Kosovo ..

Nowadays, I thought we had the UN and agreed frontiers...

It indeed seems that one large nation that bans media promotion of secession positively encourages it in her neighbours .....

[msmobyone]

Re The Kerch Straights Bridges Project

JayH

I took you to task as you suggested works had stopped ... they haven't...this is Putin's legacy project.

''Sands'' is Dmitry Peskov - the Kremlin's Press Spokesman - who has troubles remembering when he first wore a watch when it was pointed out that it was 20-30 times more than his salary  ....


This is the problem when you try to use  translation software..

The article also speaks of increased costs.

Of all the things going on in Russia - this will be the last project that would stop...

Last year the governor of Krasnodar said there was no money to fund the F1 GP in 2016... policing, etc., .. Yet, it happened - including free transport on the train to the circuit...

This is Russia, as they say.



 

[BC]

BC, here is an article on the current situation in terms of Kyiv's problems in fulfilling its Minsk II obligations -


http://ukrainianweek.com/Politics/165974

I see.. The article is fairly clear regarding intent, namely:

It's no longer a secret that the West, especially Europe, wants to settle peacefully the 'Ukrainian issue' as soon as possible. Europeans are interested in lifting sanctions against Russia, which make them lose money. Of course, Ukraine would have made many in the West happy if it made concessions and fulfilled its obligations under the Minsk agreements unilaterally, without demanding anything from the Moscow-controlled puppet quasi-republics existing at the point of the Russian bayonets. However, if you look at things realistically, it becomes clear that holding anything at least slightly resembling the expression of free will today in Donbas is impossible. And it is unlikely to become possible in the near future.

The main problem is that the militants categorically oppose an election held under Ukrainian laws, with the participation of Ukrainian political forces. This has been repeatedly stated by the self-proclaimed leader of the “Donetsk People’s Republic”, Oleksandr Zakharchenko.

Did the parties not agree to the following in the Minsk II agreement?  I wonder what OSCE's opinion is on the matter.

Based on the Law of Ukraine "On temporary Order of Local Self-Governance in Particular Districts of Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts", questions related to local elections will be discussed and agreed upon with representatives of particular districts of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts in the framework of the Trilateral Contact Group. Elections will be held in accordance with relevant OSCE standards and monitored by OSCE/ODIHR.

As to the Law, I think that is another sticking point if I understand correctly, that a constitutional change could be adapted, but that it would only refer to law yet unwritten.  Has DPR backed down from applying OSCE standards and monitoring?

Oh well.  As stated before I really do believe UA would be better off unilaterally taking the necessary steps forward, thus also placing onus on the West for pushing the other sides with more determination if they do not live up to their end of the bargain.

I can only say that both sides are in default and to blame equally.

It's sort of like a couple in divorce court.  The Judge negotiates with both parties, finds an equitable solution and orders the woman to give the dog to the man and the man to give the cat to the woman.  Both agree but the transfer never takes place.  If both take the required action, fine.  If one does and the other not, one party will be held in contempt.  If both do not they are both in contempt.

And that's about it.

[JayH]

The DPR criminals will not allow the OSCE to do its work-- and constantly obstruct.They have specifically rejected any involvement of the OSCE in any election.
The fact is they obstruct the OSCE on a daily basis.
Putin uses the "its not me" argument whenever it suits him-- ie he does not want it resolved.
Putin's only purpose is to cost Ukraine-- and to cause as much disruption in Ukraine as possible. to repeat myself--the last thing Putin wants is a functioning democracy on his doorstep.

Your analogy BC-- really shows again the degree of how clueless you are.

Russia invaded Ukraine- they have NO RIGHT to be there- cant you get that?

[BC]

The DPR criminals will not allow the OSCE to do its work-- and constantly obstruct.They have specifically rejected any involvement of the OSCE in any election.
The fact is they obstruct the OSCE on a daily basis.
Putin uses the "its not me" argument whenever it suits him-- ie he does not want it resolved.
Putin's only purpose is to cost Ukraine-- and to cause as much disruption in Ukraine as possible. to repeat myself--the last thing Putin wants is a functioning democracy on his doorstep.

Your analogy BC-- really shows again the degree of how clueless you are.

Russia invaded Ukraine- they have NO RIGHT to be there- cant you get that?

Any OSCE references to DPR blocking the negotiations?

Yes, both sides are still fighting but of note:

http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/245096

In relation to the implementation of the Addendum to the Package of measures the SMM revisited a Ukrainian Armed Forces permanent weapons storage site whose location corresponded with the withdrawal lines, and noted as missing 30 tanks (T-64) and six anti-tank guns (D-48, 85mm), as has been observed for the first time on 19 March and 6 January, respectively.

The SMM also revisited “DPR” permanent weapons storage sites whose locations corresponded with the withdrawal lines and noted that all weapons previously verified as withdrawn to those sites were present.

The SMM continued to monitor the withdrawal of heavy weapons foreseen in the Minsk Package of Measures.

In violation of the respective withdrawal lines, the SMM continued to observe a surface-to-air missile system (9K35 Strela-10, 120mm) near government-controlled Nyzhnie (56km north-west of Luhansk) (see SMM Daily Report 27 May) on 4 June. Also in violation of withdrawal lines, in government-controlled areas, the SMM observed: two surface-to-air missile systems (SA-8, Osa 120mm) in Kostiantynivka (60km north of Donetsk); six towed howitzers (2A65 Msta-B, 152mm) in Vodiane (42km south-west of Donetsk); and three anti-tank guns (MT-12 Rapira, 100mm) in Novoselivka Druha (23km north of Donetsk), on 4 June.

The SMM has yet to receive the full information requested in the 16 October 2015 notification. The SMM revisited locations known to the SMM as heavy weapons holding areas, even though they do not comply with the specific criteria set out for permanent storage sites in the notification.

In government-controlled areas beyond the respective withdrawal lines, the SMM revisited such locations and observed: seven towed howitzers (D-20, 152mm). The SMM noted as missing 15 towed howitzers (four D-20, 152mm, first observed missing on 2 April; and 11 2S3 Akatsiya, 152mm, first observed missing on 14 March). The SMM noted that one site was abandoned with 18 towed howitzers (2A65 Msta-B, 152mm) missing, as observed for the first time on 22 April.

But yeah, OSCE doesn't have a clue either.

[AkMike]

Doping in sports continues in Russia. Wow.. after all the news about it they still persist.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-is-still-doping-german-documentary-claims/571534.html

More charges.

 http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/former-anti-doping-lab-head-accuses-more-russian-athletes-of-doping/571672.html

And finally "Russia's Maria Sharapova Banned From Tennis"

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russias-maria-sharapova-banned-from-tennis/571582.html

[msmobyone]

AKAMike

Sharapova was indeed banned - but for two years - your omitting the time factor - corrected.. Interestingly enough Nike will continue to sponsor her !

JayH

About two weeks ago - you 'sort of' quoted Medvedev re his saying the was no money to index pensions...

The BBC just picked up on the fallout


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-36482124

''Once again, the Russian prime minister's remarks caught on camera during a visit to annexed Crimea on 23 May have prompted several sarcastic memes.
During a walkabout, Medvedev was confronted by a pensioner who complained about the government's failure to index pensions. The prime minister replied: "There is no money. But be strong. All the best. Have a good day, and good health," he added. Then he turned round and left.
Since the incident, the video on YouTube has been watched over 3.5m times. The phrase itself immediately went viral, spawning dozens of memes on the Internet.''

[JayH]

More on cost blowout. The money disappears in Putin's cronies pockets.

[JayH]

Shsh---- dont tell Moby !
THE SCANDAL SURROUNDING THE KERCH BRIDGE IS GAINING MOMENTUM

"This kind of project can only implement the first ten of the insurance market by taking over 10% of the risk, and the rest is reinsured pool", - said the president of the All-Russian Union of Insurers, Igor Yurgens, but due to the fact that the builder - "podsanktsionnaya company to do it on West is impossible. " He also doubted that a company like KPSK be able to cover the risks of the project, but "we have in this [reinsurance] capacity not."

http://newsonline24.com.ua/skandal-vokrug-kerchenskogo-mosta-nabiraet-oboroty-bloger

[Anotherkiwi]

Shsh---- dont tell Moby !
THE SCANDAL SURROUNDING THE KERCH BRIDGE IS GAINING MOMENTUM

"This kind of project can only implement the first ten of the insurance market by taking over 10% of the risk, and the rest is reinsured pool", - said the president of the All-Russian Union of Insurers, Igor Yurgens, but due to the fact that the builder - "podsanktsionnaya company to do it on West is impossible. " He also doubted that a company like KPSK be able to cover the risks of the project, but "we have in this [reinsurance] capacity not."

http://newsonline24.com.ua/skandal-vokrug-kerchenskogo-mosta-nabiraet-oboroty-bloger

Jay, every large project (or life insurance policy) is reinsured around the world.  It's not just this one.  However, I doubt that Russia would now be able to arrange reinsurance on any particular project outside its own borders, which would give me many sleepless nights if I was a Russian insurance company carrying any part of the risk.

[JayH]

Yuriy Tandit, the advisor to the head of the SBU Security Service of Ukraine said said that from the standpoint of the Ukrainian legislation, the self-proclaimed leaders of terrorist organizations “DPR/LPR” Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitskiy are criminals, therefore no direct negotiations with them are possible

Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1368980-no-direct-talks-with-dpr-lpr-terrorists-possible-sbu-chiefs-advisor.html

No direct talks with DPR-LPR terrorists possible: SBU chief’s advisor



Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1368980-no-direct-talks-with-dpr-lpr-terrorists-possible-sbu-chiefs-advisor.html

[AkMike]

Moby, clean off your specs..    I omitted NOTHING! 
 
I repeated their headlines. I didn't distort or alter anything.

[msmobyone]

Moby, clean off your specs..    I omitted NOTHING! 
 
I repeated their headlines. I didn't distort or alter anything.

Nought wrong with my specs... headlines are  by their very nature so often misleading...

[AkMike]

Then don't accuse me of omitting anything. That info wasn't stated in the title.

[msmobyone]

Then don't accuse me of omitting anything. That info wasn't stated in the title.

To be clear, then..both the headline and you omitted the shortness of the ban AND  that she is appealing...

So.. lazy?

[AkMike]

Your grey cells must be still misfiring severely. I used quotation marks show it as a quote.  No omission no alteraltion. 

[msmobyone]

Your grey cells must be still misfiring severely. I used quotation marks show it as a quote.  No omission no alteraltion. 

Yup...a lazy a copy and paste...   as usual....At least we know more,  now...

[AkMike]

And as usual you can't stomach the message so you attack the messenger..

 Yup, we see how you are too.