Why do you marry a woman from the FSU?

[RedHairedGirl]

 When I moved to the USA I met one Russian woman married to an American man for almost 4 years she asked me a question: "Do you know why Americans marry a Russian woman?" I said "Probably because he loves me." And she said "Because woman from FSU is like 3 in 1 (like Kinder Surprise) Beautiful, Usually Younger than they are, Good in the kitchen, and have an sexual accent". I took it like a joke but I really wonder why do you prefer us more than your local women. Is it true that we are like a Kinder Surprise?

Thank you,
 RHG

[ConnerVT]

Funny, I just bought a Kinder Surprise today for my son.  But he is still to young to be thinking of marriage.   

Although I agree the traits you describe do fit my wife, those were not alone the reasons I married her.  We chose each other because our personalities and needs in life complemented each other very well.

Unlike many who visit RWD, I did not initially set out to find a Russian woman to be my wife.  I was happy looking locally.  So I took to the Internet, and proceeded to look nationally in the USA.  I corresponded and traveled along a good part of the East Coast, but found that most of the women I met weren't wishing for someone to share the baggage mature people bring to a relationship.  They wanted someone to cart their baggage away.  However, I was looking for a more equitable division of responsibility and effort.

As most people who search the dating sites in the USA, I eventually was contacted by a RW.  At first, she seemed too real and too sincere to be true.  Folks, believe your gut feelings.  As she proved that she was neither real or sincere.  But it made me curious.

So I traveled to Russia, not to see here, but to just look around.  No expectations, no preconceived ideas.  On that trip, I met my wife, although it took a year, four more trips, and a few months of time together before we were both convinced that marriage was the best thing we could do.

[Bruno]

I took it like a joke but I really wonder why do you prefer us more than your local women. Is it true that we are like a Kinder Surprise?

Funny but i think that the majority of American marry a American women...

And if we stay at the level of foreign marriage ( via K1 ), let see the statistic of 2005 from travel.state.gov :

Ukraine : 2095 K1
Russia : 6169 K1
...
Dominican Republic : 6568 K1
India : 12622 K1
Philippines : 13585 K1
Mexico : 15862 K1
...
China : 17811 K1 ( top position  )

Seem that Russia is not the top choice of American seeking a foreign bride...

[SANDRO43]

China : 17811 K1 ( top position

Bruno, do your stats say WHO marries all those Chinese girls ? They might be imports for the local Chinese- Americans .

We have a small Chinatown here in Milan, they don't mix at all with the rest of the population and a recent survey by our local Health authorities also revealed that they NEVER die . That is, no required death certificates are practically ever received from their community. The suspicion is they're shipping back their dead to the homeland, and a relative who'll use the deceased's papers is standing by for the return flight .

[Darth Vader]

When I moved to the USA I met one Russian woman married to an American man for almost 4 years she asked me a question: "Do you know why Americans marry a Russian woman?" I said "Probably because he loves me." And she said "Because woman from FSU is like 3 in 1 (like Kinder Surprise) Beautiful, Usually Younger than they are, Good in the kitchen, and have an sexual accent". I took it like a joke but I really wonder why do you prefer us more than your local women. Is it true that we are like a Kinder Surprise?

Thank you,
 RHG

Hello, Red Haired Girl!

I count two out of the three as true of my wife.  But the reasons I married her were her personality and how good we are together as a team in life.

[Darth Vader]

Bruno, do your stats say WHO marries all those Chinese girls ? They might be imports for the local Chinese- Americans .

Well, they are Americans.  As you know, we are all immigrants here, other than native americans.

[SANDRO43]

Well, they are Americans.  As you know, we are all immigrants here, other than native americans.

I am well aware of that. My point is that the high figure, or part of it, might be explained as a specialised phenomenon, rather than a general passion of the "average" American for Orientals. Many years ago, a lot of Italian immigrants to the USA used to have their wives shipped over from their native areas, often based only on a blurred, sepia-coloured photo.

[RedHairedGirl]

Bruno,
I didn't ask you about statistics. Your replay doesn't have any connection to my question. I didn't ask you why Americans pick only Russian woman. I asked why they did pick Russian women.

ConnerVT, Darth Vader thank you for your opinion and respecting.

RHG

[catzenmouse]

Bruno,

 I have to agree with the lady. Do you actually read the posts you respond to or do you just Google your reply?

 For me: When I met Elena and got to know her I found a woman that felt her emotions deeply, gave with all of her heart and soul, did not play "head games" (which is way too common for AW), was totally honest and up front, and wanted what I wanted in life. To love and be loved by the one person who matched with me. The fact that she is younger, has a very beautiful accent, and is stunning are very wonderful bonuses but were not the first and foremost points in my search. Even when we are stressing or not communicating very well I always know that this is the very best and most wonderful woman that I could have ever found in my life and she means more to me than anything else ever has.

Ken

[jb]

I married her because she made me.  You can't see it in the wedding photos, but she had a pistol concealed in that bunch of flowers. 

[Vaughn]

  She is deadpan honest in self-presentation and opinion. She's got a heart of gold - yet is discerning about what and with whom to share its wealth. She appreciates me - a feeling that's been
long-term absent in my life until her appearance. She celebrates her femininity.

  Some may question this claim, but in the five and a half years I've known her, she's never once faltered in the area of commitment. Together, we've raised the bar for one another.

[Darth Vader]

I married her because she made me.  You can't see it in the wedding photos, but she had a pistol concealed in that bunch of flowers. 

I saw your wedding pictures today, JB.  Looking at her and looking at you, I think it's the opposite.  You have something damaging on her and made her marry you!  LOL

Congrats :-)

[wiz]

When I met Elena and got to know her I found a woman that felt her emotions deeply gave with all of her heart and soul, , did not play "head games" (which is way too common for AW), was totally honest and up front, and wanted what I wanted in life. To love and be loved by the one person who matched with me.

Even when we are stressing or not communicating very well I always know that this is the very best and most wonderful woman that I could have ever found in my life and she means more to me than anything else ever has.

Ken

Excellent answer Ken and I envy you.....

[Bruno]

Bruno,

 I have to agree with the lady. Do you actually read the posts you respond to or do you just Google your reply?

Yes, i have read the post...

I really wonder why do you prefer us more than your local women.

In these sentence, the "you" mean American men and the "us" mean RW... this sentence implies that Almerican men prefert RW on local women... what is not true !

We are maybe a majority here to like RW but in the real live, we are only a very little part of the population... and for some like me, the nationality of the woman have really nothing to make with my choice... if my actual girlfriend was from a other planet, it have make no difference.

[Zmejka]

I agree with Bruno. The question was a bit strange - or RHG wanted to boast that russian women are the best in the world? And the most beautiful of course. Yes, we heard it a lot from russian women themselves To some point her suggestion is true - but it doesn't mean that americans really prefer us more than their own women. SOME americans does and did it in the past by dating and marrying them - but statistics gives us different figures as Bruno showed you just don't go to other forums where americans prefer may be Chinese or Phillipines girls just because of the same qualities

[Rvrwind]

Re: Why do you marry a woman from the FSU?

Because I can & I did & I don't regret one second of it & what Ken said,  .

[Albert]

When I moved to the USA I met one Russian woman married to an American man for almost 4 years she asked me a question: "Do you know why Americans marry a Russian woman?" I said "Probably because he loves me." And she said "Because woman from FSU is like 3 in 1 (like Kinder Surprise) Beautiful, Usually Younger than they are, Good in the kitchen, and have an sexual accent". I took it like a joke but I really wonder why do you prefer us more than your local women. Is it true that we are like a Kinder Surprise?

Thank you,
 RHG

RHG, your friend is mostly right.  Men make up all kinds of excuses about why they date and marry FSU women, but it mostly boils down to basic instincts coupled with economic realities.

You can read more complete reasoning in sociology textbooks, but basically men and women are driven by survival and procreation desires and instincts . . . . that continue to exist even when the individual man and woman no longer desire to create children.

Basically, women are drawn to men who are perceived as able to father children and then care for these children (and the mother) in an economic sense.

Men are attracted to beautiful, young women because of the same basic child bearing instincts.

So for most men . . . if they can find a source of more beautiful and younger women that will be willing to date and marry them, then they will want to go to that source.

For every young, beautiful and good in the kitchen FSU woman; a similar woman exists in the west (but not the accent obviously.)  But the men are not accepted by these western women, whereas they are accepted by the FSU women.

Does this mean that the FSU women and western men do not love each other.  No it does not.  They can love and marry each other just same as western men and women marry, and same as FSU men and women marry.  The love is no different.

But it all starts with attraction.   Why are western men attracted to FSU women and why are FSU women attracted to western men?  That is the question that your friend and I have answered for you.

[El Rock]

Well, they are Americans.  As you know, we are all immigrants here, other than native americans.

native americans   came from some  where

[ScottinCrimea]

My FSU wife was the first one I met and the only one I ever dated.  At the time I began writing to her I was also corresponding with women in the US as well as Colombia, Great Britain, Australia, etc.  With her there was a connection that I hadn't felt with anyone else.  Like was mentioned by someone here before, it had nothing to do with where she lived other than the influence that place had on her life and the development of the qualities that attracted me.  And to be honest, I could have never found a woman with her beauty, intelligence and talents in the US, and even if I did, I could never get to first base with her.  I think this gets to the heart of the issue.  If an AW had all of the qualities of my wife, she would quickly develop an attitude and could pick and choose her suitors.  In the FSU, there is an abundance of such women and a shortage of quality men, so they are more open to having a relationship with normal men such as myself.  It's all about supply and demand.

[jb]

As you know, we are all immigrants here,

Not true, Kemo Sabe, I was born in the Lone Star State of Texas, I didn't emigrate from anywhere. 

[TexasBoar]

As you know, we are all immigrants here,

Not true, Kemo Sabe, I was born in the Lone Star State of Texas, I didn't emigrate from anywhere. 

*raises hand*

Not an immigrant here, either.  We were colonists.

~Boar

[Gator]

Is that how Mexicans would classify Texans?

[TexasBoar]

Is that how Mexicans would classify Texans?

I'm not Texan . . . well, not native, at any rate.  Down here they say naturalized . . . decade here, have visited the Alamo, danced at Gruene Hall, been dipped in the Brazos, toobed the 'Lupe, know where the Muster Oak is (and what) . . . haven't we had this conversation before?

Hmmmm . . . no, I think that was with Sandro last time.

But my family has been here in the New World a very, very long time.  It was our fourth generation here that fought in the American Revolution---the adult great-grandsons of the first of my line to cross the Atlantic and settle here.

I'm also 1/8th Tsilagi, paleface. 

But I suppose they were immigrants too. Everybody's from someplace else originally.  Me, I believe in right of conquest.

~Boar

[jb]

Is that how Mexicans would classify Texans?

Mexican elites probably view native born Texans, New Mexicans, Arizonians, Coloradians, and Californians about the same way the Palestinians view the Israelis.  They'd probably love it if we just left, giving all the wealth we have created back into their own incapable hands,,, for nothing.

The difference between us is that our ancestors shot straighter, marched harder, had a better vision of the future, and were more determined to steer our own course.  Much in the same sense as the original 13 Colonies viewed the English Crown. 

Let's not re-write history here.  Suffice to say, I'm not an emigrant to this land.  I'm a fourth or fifth generation Texican, (depending on how you count) with ancestors who marched with Sam Houston, and quite proud of it.  I also have a Great Grand Pa buried at the Confederate CSA cemetery outside Rogersville, Tennessee.  We've been around for awhile.

[jinx13]

 I bet Jb is still ticked off about losing that Civil War    Sorry, I couldn't resist 

 

[Gator]

You Texans sure are proud people!

Jinx - do you mean the War Between the States?

[jinx13]

 Yes Gator, THE Civil War, I imagine the Texas guys using the  Confederate Flag as a wall covering or bed spread 

 The confederate flag in most northern states symbolizes racism, and redneck mentality. I'm not saying that's true with everyone that owns one, maybe they are just proud of their Southern roots, but out here in Cali if you see somebody flying that thing proudly, you pretty much know where they stand politically and racially, but thats a topic for another board maybe, nothing Russian about that.

 p.s. on second thought, there's a lot of that going on in Russia at the moment too.

[jinx13]

 Disclaimer: Knowing how proud Texan's are, I want to make it clear I didn't mean anything deragotory in the previous post.

 I have Texan friends (also from Corpus Christie) who have lived in California for more than 30 years, but still don't claim Cali as their home. They have Texas stuff all over their house, and "Don't mess with Texas" license plate frames 

 I'm also a life long Dallas Cowboy's fan, and yes I am very happy about our playoff chances, Romo is the man!

[Zhena]

My FSU wife was the first one I met and the only one I ever dated.  At the time I began writing to her I was also corresponding with women in the US as well as Colombia, Great Britain, Australia, etc.  With her there was a connection that I hadn't felt with anyone else.  Like was mentioned by someone here before, it had nothing to do with where she lived other than the influence that place had on her life and the development of the qualities that attracted me.  And to be honest, I could have never found a woman with her beauty, intelligence and talents in the US, and even if I did, I could never get to first base with her.  I think this gets to the heart of the issue.  If an AW had all of the qualities of my wife, she would quickly develop an attitude and could pick and choose her suitors.  In the FSU, there is an abundance of such women and a shortage of quality men, so they are more open to having a relationship with normal men such as myself.  It's all about supply and demand.

This is very genuine answer. Respect!

[ScottinCrimea]

I've talked a lot in this forum about what great qualities my wife has. Here's a pic tro show you the icing on the cake.  Thing someone with those eyes would look my way in the US?

[START2]

Not true, Kemo Sabe, I was born in the Lone Star State of Texas, I didn't emigrate from anywhere. 

  I've almost come to despise that PC insinuation that we are all emigrants here. I am not an emmigrant either. I was born and raised here and I am AMERICAN!! My grandfather actually fought in WW1 for the Germans, and after the war legally emmigrated to this country and proudly proclaimed his American citizenship. I am not German-American, I just have relatives who came from Germany. My allegiance is to America. 
  As for my wife, it will be her decision if she desires to take American citizenship. If you were to ask her now, she'd say no. In 5 years, who knows?
   She had no desire to come to the U.S. She's only here for me. Her qualities far out weigh most western women's qualites. At least the ones I was meeting. It's why I married her.
 

[Zhena]

I've talked a lot in this forum about what great qualities my wife has. Here's a pic tro show you the icing on the cake.  Thing someone with those eyes would look my way in the US?

Your wife is very beautiful,Crimea,You can be proud. Congratulations!

[Mark]

My family immigrated from Germany in the 1880's I remember my great grandmother - never spoke a work of English and my grandmother's was very broken. My grandfathers first wife died in childbirth and them married my grandmother, a lot younger - imagine that!
Anyway I was brought up in a small midwestern town raised around the ways of the old country where the men worked hard and their wives took good care of them.
After several failed relationships I realized that I needed someone along the lines of the women I was raised around, someone with the ethics of the family I was born into.
I found her - she's Russian / grandmother is German, and she  is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

[Kuna]

My family immigrated from Germany in the 1880's I remember my great grandmother - never spoke a work of English and my grandmother's was very broken. My grandfathers first wife died in childbirth and them married my grandmother, a lot younger - imagine that!
Anyway I was brought up in a small midwestern town raised around the ways of the old country where the men worked hard and their wives took good care of them.
After several failed relationships I realized that I needed someone along the lines of the women I was raised around, someone with the ethics of the family I was born into.
I found her - she's Russian / grandmother is German, and she  is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Mark,

I'd love to hear more of your story...  Where and how you met your wife? The dating process and your trips to FSU?  Early experiences?  Things that might have surprised you... etc

I can identify with your comments about being raised in the ways of "the old country" and the relationship between male and female responsibilities.

I often read "warnings" in RWD about how "strong" a RW/UW can be and am a little amused after growing up in a family where all women were "strong".

Cheers,

Kuna

[catzenmouse]

I often read "warnings" in RWD about how "strong" a RW/UW can be and am a little amused after growing up in a family where all women were "strong".

This is often said in the context of being a "myth" buster. If you read/have read much of what is written on many of the agency sites you would think that these beautiful young women want nothing more than to be at your beck and call 24/7. If a man goes into this with that expectation he will be in for a very rude awakening when he finds out that this woman has a will of iron behind those pointy high heels.

Ken

[Mark]

Kuna,
We met through mutual friends, a great way to met someone and weed out the scammers!
Otherwise no big surprises.

A couple of years ago I tried to get on the TV series Survivor - I asked my better 1/2  if she would like to apply also, her reply - she had to be a survivor all her life and wasn't at all interested. Yes she is strong, she had to be.

I lost my job due to 9-11, no unemployment, no work to be found around here.
It was her being strong that keep us together, enduring the hard times and putting up with me being gone for weeks on end working 400 miles away.

I know not many AW would have held up and stuck with me like she did.

Mark
 

Mark,

I'd love to hear more of your story...  Where and how you met your wife? The dating process and your trips to FSU?  Early experiences?  Things that might have surprised you... etc

I can identify with your comments about being raised in the ways of "the old country" and the relationship between male and female responsibilities.

I often read "warnings" in RWD about how "strong" a RW/UW can be and am a little amused after growing up in a family where all women were "strong".

Cheers,

Kuna

[Erwin]

We met through mutual friends, a great way to met someone and weed out the scammers!
Otherwise no big surprises

Mark,

This is how we also met.  It it the best way, imho....

Cheers,

E

[Erwin]

...I lost my job due to 9-11, no unemployment, no work to be found around here. It was her being strong that keep us together, enduring the hard times and putting up with me being gone for weeks on end working 400 miles away.

Mark,

This sound like a true love...I am glad that you have found someone who truly love you.

All the best,

E