My view of the war

[sleepycat]

The mother of all ironies...

http://theweek.com/article/index/268439/speedreads-russia-identifies-north-korean-style-irregularities-in-scottish-independence-vote

Of course it didn't meet international standards, it's not 123% voter turnout! 

[lordtiberius]

'Ceasefire in the Donbas, announced on 5th of September, was violated 480 times' told Yuriy Sergeyev, Ukraine's representative at the meeting of the UN Security Council.

  "Every day we register violations of the ceasefire. It was violated 480 times. 100 Ukrainian soldiers were killed and 138 injured," - he said.

What should the morally vapid West be doing?

I agree with this guy:
http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/15/the-end-of-the-beginning/

[missAmeno]

Russia has used nuclear weapons against ATO  - Geletey

Russia did use against the Ukrainian military tactical nuclear weapons. This was confirmed by the Minister of Defence of Ukraine Valeriy Geletey during the return of Ukrainian delegation from Poland.

About this on his Facebook page informed reporters Roman Bochkala.

"In particular, the RF forces struck two strikes of self-propelled mortar 2S4 "Tulip" in Lugansk airport. Precisely for this reason our military left it [airport]. Strikes were so strong that "completely destroyed the building from the fifth floor to the basement"- described the minister.

Were used shells type 3VB4 and 3VB11 of TNT power of two kilotons - that is 2 thousand Kg of TNT.

"If not for "Tulips", we could have been at the airport at least another few months and no one with anything would have made us leave" - said Geletey explaining reasons for withdrawal from Lugansk.

According Bochkaly, the Minister said that there is reasonable apprehension to think that this kind of strikes Russia can apply to Donetsk airport.

"The airport can be exchanged for Novoazovsk or other locality. Regarding tactical nuclear weapons, its use violates the international agreement on disarmament. In 1987 a treaty was signed between the USSR and the USA on the elimination of intermediate and short-range. Upon Soviet Union breakup tactical nuclear warheads were shipped to Russia from the republics, which became independent, including Ukraine ", - the report says.
Weapons should have been destroyed, but Russia did not. Considerable part of arsenal is in the mode of long-term preservation.

The reference is placed in the message of Bochkaly contains more detailed information about what kind exactly nuclear weapons Russia is using against Ukraine, where it is stored and what its inventory.

http://gazeta.ua/articles/np/_rosiya-zastosovuvala-proti-sil-ato-yadernu-zbroyu-geletej/582108

[lordtiberius]

US response? 

> What nukes?

[Belvis]

Russia has used nuclear weapons against ATO  - Geletey

That's good example why world ignores Ukrainian claims about Russian invasion. Not easy to accept them seriously.
OK, my contribution in exposure of Russian aggression.  Russian self-propelled mortar  "Tulip" shells Lugansk (in best traditions of Ukrainian propaganda):

[ghost of moon goddess]

Russia has used nuclear weapons against ATO  - Geletey

It should be mentioned, however, that later he told the journalist (who published Geletey's statement) to correct his statement to say that he could only assume that Russia used a tactical nuclear weapon.

''As regards the use of a tactical nuclear weapon by Russia, it's still to be confirmed since no measurements of radiation levels have been made at the moment. The presence of 'Tulip' weapons systems in Lugansk region. eyewitness accounts and a specific pattern of destruction lead us to assume that Russions did use it when attacking Lugansk airport'' posted the journalist.

[lordtiberius]

(in best traditions of Ukrainian propaganda):

Yes, they have a lot to learn from their Big Brothers

[BillyB]

OK, my contribution in exposure of Russian aggression.  Russian self-propelled mortar  "Tulip" shells Lugansk (in best traditions of Ukrainian propaganda):

Where did you get that photo from? That is an American artillery gun shooting off a nuclear projectile in 1953. Here's a video. Interesting to watch the destruction a low powered nuclear weapon causes.

[lordtiberius]

Upstairs from my in-laws, a man from Lugansk has moved in with his wife and two children.

[Stirlitz]

www.stopfake.org/en/news

[missAmeno]

Destroyed in Starobeshevi T-72BA and T-72BM of russian-fascist invaders

[missAmeno]

New hit Russischen Soldaten, Schweinen, Occupanten!

[lordtiberius]

[AC]

New hit Russischen Soldaten, Schweinen, Occupanten!

Очень жаль что сейчас происходит такие страшные события, гибнуть люди из-за омбиций одного человека 

[missAmeno]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/19/vladimir-putin-plan-unplug-russia-internet-emergency-kremlin-moscow

I am surprised no one from Russian members posted anything on the matter. After all next year highly likely they will not be able to access this forum, actually any site that is not part of russian prison intranet. I expected usual cheering and applauding for Putin's new outstanding way of making stronger Russia. Kind of disappointing. Come on, lets hear loud 'Hooray' for Putin!

[sleepycat]

That's going to destroy the livelihood of all those young RW relying on the income from corresponding/chatting with western men!

[Anotherkiwi]

That's going to destroy the livelihood of all those young RW relying on the income from corresponding/chatting with western men!

But it won't stop the UW - in fact, they will have a much clearer field! 

[Boethius]

This is what the local populace has in store under the rule of the bandit terrorists in the so called "DNR" and "LNR".


http://www.dw.de/lawlessness-in-eastern-ukraine/a-17949041

[lordtiberius]

Gangster's paradise.  Anyone who read that article want to defend the DNR/LNR?

[missAmeno]

[Hammer2722]

LOL, I love the Dr. Evil touch at the end!!! 

[lordtiberius]

Upsetting men of military age and then fighting a war on their land . . . not strategically smart

[AC]

Gangster's paradise.  Anyone who read that article want to defend the DNR/LNR?

Lord of the Flies...

[Boethius]

More on life in the terrorist paradise -


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/an-orwellian-nightmare-for-pro-ukrainians-in-rebel-held-east/2014/09/24/1bc10b94-4a70-4419-aceb-16e10d92528a_story.html#

[Faux Pas]

I thought this was interesting. Maybe some folks can do with a reminder