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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2012, 01:46:29 AM »
The quickest way would prolly be flying her to Mexico (no visa needed) and then crossing the border as every one else seem to do.  8)

Well, few would help but there are always some who are wild and crazy dudes themselves.....!
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2012, 02:50:49 AM »
And then there was the one about the lady who said, "I am coming to be with you.  Just pay off my Husband so he will sign the papers allowing my children to come!!!!!" HAHAHAHA.  It's true and actually happened.  And the husband then had a change of heart once he had the money and the woman was absolutely stuck and couldn't leave her children in that country with her (Supposedly) Ex Husband.

You are exposing yourself to be scammed.  Big time.  Listen to these people!  I'm not saying it's happening, but I am saying that you are running down the street with no clothes on.  You is nakky to anything she wants to do!

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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2012, 03:16:39 AM »
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free. 

FOR THE MOMENT YOU DON'T KNOW, ONE TRIED TO SCAM ME AFTER TWO  TRIPS.

  The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow in January where she will fly to meet me there (mind you she is paying her way to meet up with me). 

MAKE HER SOME SAVING AND MEET HER IN HER CITY. ALSO PREPARE A BACKUP OR PROSPECT IF THERE ARE WORTH AGENCIES.

I want to know if anyone has suggestions how to get her in the USA as quick as possible after our initial meeting.

WIFES ARE NOT LIKE NEW REAL ESTATE THAT YOU BUY ON PLAN

  To complicate the situation is that she is recently divorced and her ex who is not involved with the children will probably not agree to let the children leave the country.

YOU NEED TO CHECK THIS : if the children cannot leave the country she would surely not come in USA. If the father don't want you would be in trouble. END of the story.

THERE IS NOTHING COMPLICATED FOR THE MOMENT AS THIS RELATIONSHIP DOESN'T EXIST FOR THE MOMENT (you don't even know if she is good at sex), YOU JUST MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED

 We will marry when she comes to me if not sooner.

SORRY ?

  We don't want to wait two years to be together.

AS YOU DON'T EVEN MET IT IS A LITTLE UPPISH.

 She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back. 

SHE IS SO IN HURRY TO LEAVE HER CITY ? SHE LIVES NEAR TCHERNOBYL ?


 We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing.

IF YOU WERE SO INTELLIGENT (I MEAN IN THE SOCIAL AREA),  WOULD YOU ADVICE YOUR BEST FRIEND TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ? JUST THINK OF IT.

 Please I invite comments/suggestions.   Appreciate any help.
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2012, 05:00:58 AM »
...Something like: the man comes home at 4 am drunk with lipstick marks all over his body and women's underwear in his pockets saying :"Dear , it was a top secret over-time work", she would just say:"Oh, honey, you must be tired! Do you want me to help you with the bath and give you a massage to relax a little bit?" :D

I think "naive" or "trusting" rather than "absent-minded" would cover it.

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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2012, 05:10:29 AM »
We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing. 

Then do the right thing and go through the "process" properly and legally like everybody else here on RWD.
 
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2012, 07:53:16 AM »
are there women like that???
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2012, 08:14:14 AM »
And then there was the one about the lady who said, "I am coming to be with you.  Just pay off my Husband so he will sign the papers allowing my children to come!!!!!" HAHAHAHA.  It's true and actually happened.  And the husband then had a change of heart once he had the money and the woman was absolutely stuck and couldn't leave her children in that country with her (Supposedly) Ex Husband.

You are exposing yourself to be scammed.  Big time.  Listen to these people!  I'm not saying it's happening, but I am saying that you are running down the street with no clothes on.  You is nakky to anything she wants to do!

(And I'm usually the one that is saying 'go for it'.)
 
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2012, 10:40:56 AM »
Ed found an imperfection in his wife. >:D
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2012, 01:10:31 PM »
You would need to wait until you have met her in real life first before making further commitments  (not via webcam)
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2012, 03:03:02 PM »
She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back.   

Did I read this correctly? She plans to bring her children to the U.S. without their biological father's consent and overstay the tourist visa?
 
I'm not an attorney, but it sounds like you would be putting yourself at risk by being complicit to immigration fraud.
 
Can you tell us how you determined the woman with whom you are corresponding is fraud-free? Perhaps you did a background check through Wymoo or another reputable company?
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2012, 03:16:27 PM »

Did I read this correctly? She plans to bring her children to the U.S. without their biological father's consent and overstay the tourist visa?
 
I'm not an attorney, but it sounds like you would be putting yourself at risk by being complicit to immigration fraud.
 
Can you tell us how you determined the woman with whom you are corresponding is fraud-free? Perhaps you did a background check through Wymoo or another reputable company?

If she and the kids come without the permission of the father, she will likely be on an airplane with the kids as soon as she is caught.

There are legal ways to accomplish what she wants, but not without the fathers permission.  I suspect that once they research this further, they will take a different plan of action.  LOL
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2012, 02:46:12 PM »
USCIS considers someone to be a child until age 21. In Russia, at age 16 you get your own passport and can usually travel without your parents permission. So how old are the children?
You said children, so that means two or more. How many? What ages?
Do you earn enough to take on three or more additional family members? Can you pay for their university education? Do you know that Russian women, in general, like to spoil their children?

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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2012, 03:23:49 PM »
Johnny

Keep in mind most everyone here is wanting to be helpful. There are however a number of flags with your scenario as you've presented it.  A couple of questions you should ask yourself (no need to answer just think about it) ;

Why is this woman is such a hurry to leave that she'd take her kids and illegally fly them to you even if there was a way?

Why are you in such a hurry that you are discussing marriage with a woman you've never met?

If you could pull it off illegally, are you prepared for the excessive expense and mental anguish sure to follow and clean up the legal aspects so she could stay?

Truth is stranger than fiction and you both may very will be solid clear thinking people. If so, keep in mind it is nothing more than infatuation at this stage. You need to meet first. Spend some time getting to know each other in real time and both decide if it is worth another meeting.

You can do this but, attempting to do it illegally is not going to help your relationship. Getting caught will only keep you apart longer. There is a right way and a wrong way. The right way only gives you a 50/50 chance and the wrong way the odds are much worse. Are you feeling lucky?

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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2012, 04:11:29 PM »
There are the basic TEN COMMANDMENTS posted as stickys in the starting out  section:

1. Never send money to someone you have never met.

2. Always have a back-up plan.

3. Work to eliminate any agency from your communications.

4. Always get the lady's home address and home phone number as early as possible.

5. Verify the ladies you are writing to are real.

6. Do not fall in love with photos!!

7. Always be yourself. Show the ladies the real you. Be truthful. Use current photos.

8. Do not rush into this! Take your time and be methodical, not impulsive, about this process.

9. Treat international dating the same as dating someone from your home country. The biggest difference is the cost (travel, phone. etc). This is an expensive process. Don't believe anyone that tells you otherwise.

10. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MAIL-ORDER BRIDE! They do not exist.
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2012, 09:35:02 AM »
I would say that the odds of getting a tourist visa for her and the kids would be slim to none,  I was in a relationship with a FSU woman with a child and we talked about stripping the ex's parental rights and in the end we chose to do nothing and parted ways..  She wanted to come as a tourist and we were afraid that wouldn't work either because her travel history was limited and she would be denied.  I understand why Johnny is quick to the thoughts of marriage,  it is normal to think about it in the hours after a good Skype conversation and that is the ultimate goal of anyone here.  Nobody wants to be alone and if that is the only way then roll the dice!   I got a lot of grief here also for my plan,  met on the Internet in July,  met in Turkey in October,  filed k-1 in December,  meeting the parents in March,  hopefully she will be here in July,  maybe it will end in tears and maybe it won't but its my call,,,

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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2012, 05:02:27 PM »
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free.    The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow in January where she will fly to meet me there (mind you she is paying her way to meet up with me).  I want to know if anyone has suggestions how to get her in the USA as quick as possible after our initial meeting.   To complicate the situation is that she is recently divorced and her ex who is not involved with the children will probably not agree to let the children leave the country.  We will marry when she comes to me if not sooner.   We don't want to wait two years to be together.  She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back.   We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing.  Please I invite comments/suggestions.   Appreciate any help.
K-1 is the quickest visa. As for her ex- Russia lets kids go without the permission of the "other" parent. She has to not tell her ex about her plans.
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2012, 05:39:30 PM »
As for her ex- Russia lets kids go without the permission of the "other" parent. She has to not tell her ex about her plans.

Why then was there discussions in several other threads about guys having paid off the ex to get his permission?

Were those examples about Ukraine; which might have different rules?
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2012, 06:23:54 PM »
Check out www.visajourney.com for best information.
It seems to me that using a tourist visa for a fiance is not recommended. It could even be a permanent ban for her if discovered. It is not a game for U.S. Immigration people.

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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2012, 06:28:37 PM »
Why then was there discussions in several other threads about guys having paid off the ex to get his permission?

Were those examples about Ukraine; which might have different rules?

Maybe Russia does not require permission for kids on a tourist visa although it seems strange to me.
For sure Ukriane requires notorized permission from father for Tourist Visa or K-1/K-2.
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2012, 06:46:37 PM »
Why then was there discussions in several other threads about guys having paid off the ex to get his permission?

Were those examples about Ukraine; which might have different rules?
I don't know why. There is a clear regulation in Russia about kids under 18 yo going abroad with one parent- no permission needed from another.
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2012, 06:51:26 PM »
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2012, 09:58:12 PM »
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free.    The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow...


You don't know damn $hit about this woman. You haven't even met her yet. For all you know she might be setting you up for the scam of your life. You are not in control. Your silly romantic heart is. Go over there with your mind in charge and figure reality not what your dream is.


With Russian women it is certain, her children will always outrank you. They come first and in an extreme way. This is the number 1 cause of divorce in Russia. Once a Russian woman has a child the husband is shelved. They rather remind me of she-bears in that regard.

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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2012, 01:28:10 AM »
All so mixed up now between:


* Naive western men's hopes/dreams.


* Naive FSUW hopes/dreams.


* US rules and regulations.


* Ukraine rules and regulations.


* Russian Federation rules and regulations.


* Realities of airports, local laws, CIS regulations and how many traffic lights your passport control officer/consular officer/ticket agent caught on the way to work on that morning.


There are big differences and varying versions of reality between these points.


« Last Edit: December 08, 2012, 12:41:18 PM by ECOCKS »
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2012, 06:33:33 AM »
We are all giving advice to each other here. Where is the OP?
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Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2012, 08:07:37 AM »
We are all giving advice to each other here. Where is the OP?
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