The Russian Invasion of Ukraine-The Real Nazis

[Boethius]

What is obvious? Just because the residents are understandably gun shy doesn't prove an imminent invasion.

I didn't post about anything being "obvious".  However, three soldiers in Mariupol died this week, during the so called "ceasefire", and a policeman was shot in the head when he stopped a car and asked for identification from terrorist rebels.

[AkMike]

No but statement s from NATO and the US, based of satellite images say it's very likely.

[Steamer]

Tell it to Steamer.  He seems to be a pacifist who doesn't want to believe the obvious.

My apologies Bo, I'm getting posts mixed up.

[AC]

My apologies Bo, I'm getting posts mixed up.

If you're getting some very simple posts here mixed up you might not be the best person to offer analysis on whether or not Putin is going to continue his invasion and attempt to take Mariupol.

[Steamer]

If you're getting some very simple posts here mixed up you might not be the best person to offer analysis on whether or not Putin is going to continue his invasion and attempt to take Mariupol.

Bite me

[AC]

Bite me

Oh, did I hurt your feelings?  Poor baby.   

[lordtiberius]

If you're getting some very simple posts here mixed up you might not be the best person to offer analysis on whether or not Putin is going to continue his invasion and attempt to take Mariupol.

Yeah, agree.  But good luck getting him to acknowledge the corn.

[Boethius]

My apologies Bo, I'm getting posts mixed up.

No problem.

[Boethius]

A few posters here may want to read this


- http://sirgis.info/2015/03/06/ethnic_cleaning_in_gorlovka/


The DPR has stated that those who support Ukraine or Ukrainians will be removed from their territories, and locals should report neighbours, acquantances, and strangers.


Yup, this is the "fascist free" some posters here support.

[AkMike]

This sounds very similar to the 'cleansing' of Germany in WWII. 

[mendeleyev]

[Anotherkiwi]

Looking at the title of the video, why should they be worried?  How many times now has Putin said that there are no Russian soldiers in Ukraine?

Sheesh...   

[Boethius]

BBC report on Russian troops in Ukraine
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31794523

[Boethius]

Another article on the strain invading Ukraine put on the Russian army -

the Rusi report says that a total of 42,000 Russian troops from 117 combat and combat-support units have been involved, either being rotated in and out of the front lines in Ukraine or pouring artillery fire from inside Russia.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/11/russia-struggling-ukraine-military-operations-report

[Photo Guy]

I've been watching the developing tension near Mariupol. If the pro-Russians invade this city, it will be a disaster for Russia and a disaster for the local residents. The world would see it as Russian aggression, even more so than Debaltseve. Mariupol is a large city of almost half a million. An invasion would totally trash the Minsk II agreement, and that would pretty much eliminate any future agreements, creating a climate of complete distrust. If it happens, it would highlight Putin's stupidity/insanity.

[AC]

Another article on the strain invading Ukraine put on the Russian army -

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/11/russia-struggling-ukraine-military-operations-report

Western propaganda.  There are no Russians in E. Ukraine, that is until there are. 

Once the fighting is over and it's secured property of Russia, Putler will wink and grin and admit there were always Russians soldiers there, while he hands out service ribbons.   

[mendeleyev]

For those who still need evidence of Russians in Ukraine:

[lordtiberius]

For those who still need evidence of Russians in Ukraine:

Mendy, if Putin is dead (long may his bastard live [ahem]), what implications will that have in Russia?

To the Mercantilists, what business sex love romantic martial opportunities may open up?

if the Mercantilists have a position on pubic hair relevant to these opportunities, we would love to hear that as well. . . .

[mendeleyev]

Although so far there seems to be no credible evidence of his passing, I am always hopeful for positive changes for my beloved Russia.

[lordtiberius]

It is the absence of evidence that is evidence itself.  Ask Mrs. Woodrow Wilson

[Boethius]

Russia is still supplying the terrorists with weapons.  We should expect more skirmishes in the spring -

Russia is still pouring heavy weapons into Ukraine, signalling that President Vladimir Putin has no intention of abiding by last month’s ceasefire agreement, NATO’s top military commander warned on Sunday.
 
U.S. Air Force Gen. Philip Breedlove told an audience at the German Marshall Fund Brussels Forum that Moscow continues to ramp up military and economic support to separatists in Eastern Ukraine. That conclusion was based on evidence gathered by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s joint intelligence unit in Britain.
 
“We continue to see disturbing elements of air defense, command and control, resupply and equipment coming across a completely porous border,” he said.

Under the agreement reached last month in Minsk, Belarus, Russia is obligated to withdraw all troops and equipment from Ukraine and return control of the border to the Kyiv government by the end of this year. The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe is supposed to monitor Russian compliance.

Breedlove said the Russian moves made Western consideration of arming Ukraine more pressing. He didn’t outright endorse sending lethal aid, but according to many reports, he has been making that case inside the Barack Obama administration.

“What we see is diplomatic tools being used, informational tools being used, military tools being used, economic tools being used against Ukraine,” he said. “We in the West should consider using all of our tools in reply. Could it be destabilizing? The answer is yes. Also, inaction could be destabilizing.”

Victoria Nuland, the U.S. assistant secretary of state for European affairs, told the forum on Friday that Obama has not yet made a decision on arming the Kyiv government. Nuland has made no secret of her support for the measure, but has encountered reluctance from senior White House staff members who don’t want to break ranks with European partners or give Russia an excuse to counter-escalate.

“We’ve seen, month on month, more lethal weaponry of a higher caliber … poured into Ukraine by the separatist Russian allies,” Nuland said. “The kinds of equipment that the Ukrainian forces are confronting are much more sophisticated than what they have. I think the number one thing is for Russia to stop sending arms over the border so that we can have real politics.”

The European Union’s high representative for foreign affairs, Federica Mogherini, refused to say whether she thought Russia was adhering to the Minsk pact. She said European leaders won’t make a judgment until July, when the next decision on EU sanctions is due, and that she was working to ease sanctions against Russia.

“We decided more than one year ago that … the only way of putting pressure on Russia was the economic one,” she said. “I wish we could lift the sanctions soon, but it depends on the situation on the ground in Ukraine.”

Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the Russian parliament’s international affairs committee, denied that any Russian troops are in Ukraine. “We are not sending troops into neighboring country. Mr. Breedlove believes we do. But we do not,” he said, evoking scoffs from the mostly European and American audience.

Breedlove and Nuland are fighting an uphill battle. Obama has said arming Kyiv would be seen as an escalation and would unsettle the situation on the ground. Yet NATO’s evidence shows that Russia is changing the status quo every day. So it’s not arming Kyiv that makes keeping the balance between the two sides impossible, raising the chances of greater violence.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security advisor to President Jimmy Carter, was highly critical of the West’s approach. “We have signaled a willingness to accommodate,” he said. “I’m not sure that, at this stage, we have succeeded in convincing the Russians that we are prepared to deter the kind of steps they are adopting.”

If Obama doesn’t want to give arms to Ukraine’s military, he will have to find another way to turn up the heat on Putin. Some in Congress, along with State Department and White House officials, are preparing new sanctions measures. Yet while the White House waits for Europe to agree to either option, we get paralysis that plays into Putin’s hands.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/23/russia-continues-to-pour-arms-into-ukraine-showing-putin-has-no-intention-of-abiding-ceasefire-nato/
 
 
 

[mendeleyev]

Some separatist leaders are saying that a new major offensive by Russia to cut off Ukraine's access to the Black Sea will come before summer.

[Ranetka]

Although so far there seems to be no credible evidence of his passing, I am always hopeful for positive changes for my beloved Russia.

Бога побойся, верующий ты наш.

[lordtiberius]

Любите Бога! И возлюби ближнего твоего,!

[Boethius]

For those who denied Russian troops were in Ukraine -


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11506774/Separatist-fighter-admits-Russian-tanks-troops-decisive-in-eastern-Ukraine-battles.html