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« Reply #451 on: September 27, 2014, 11:30:19 AM »
Girls like soldiers of Novorussia:



Two blondes on opposite sides of the civil war. First one is an Ukrainian journalist Olena Bilozerskaya, works for Right Sector. Second one is unknown rebel activist.



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« Reply #452 on: September 27, 2014, 02:48:55 PM »
Girls like soldiers of Novorussia:



Two blondes on opposite sides of the civil war. First one is an Ukrainian journalist Olena Bilozerskaya, works for Right Sector. Second one is unknown rebel activist.




I worked with a man named Zoran.  He was a Canadian from the Balkans.  I learned a lot about his country talking to this man.  He said his father couldn't understand the Balkan Wars.  He called it "War without Germans."  I see Slav killing Slav and I am cold and numb

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« Reply #453 on: September 28, 2014, 02:47:19 AM »
Girls like soldiers of Novorussia
Have a glimpse at the girls’ future:



Death to Russian Nazi occupants and collaborators!
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« Reply #454 on: September 28, 2014, 05:23:48 AM »
Have a glimpse at the girls’ future:
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Death to Russian Nazi occupants and collaborators!

I'm sure they have different view of their future. Your slogans vs. their guns, who will win?  :)

Ekaterina Gubareva, the wife of prominent  leader of rebels.


Women militia in Lisichansk (Donetsk region):

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« Reply #455 on: September 28, 2014, 05:53:37 AM »
For reality deprived Belvis:

How to survive in the occupied territory?



Special correspondent of INFORMATOR returned from the East Ukraine.

His task was to investigate the lives of citizens who remained on the other side of the front. The journalist has collected a lot of material that passed on to our resource - shelling one area, turning off the water in the other, the approach of Russian armored vehicles. All that we have been receiving directly from the scene. Today, after returning "from the other side" he told about life of Ukrainians, system of government, unemployment, mobilization of DNR and LNR, and much more. Reading below, it is hard to believe that all of this happening now, not somewhere in the distant African country, but close by to us, just a few hundred kilometers away...

First, the problems started with the delivery of products. Prices soared. Electricity and water periodically were disappearing, and in the territory of LNR many areas have become cut off from these benefits. Companies and firms began mass closing. Kilometers long column of trucks stood in line for weeks at checkpoints - the owners of factories were taking everything of value from the zone ATO.

When everything only started, locals were not too afraid of the people in masks and with St. George ribbons. Last behaved harshly, but did not touch civilians. Everyone learned - places where there are people in masks better to bypass by the tenth road. After all, verification's, hour interrogations, searches made ​​it clear that civilians are not only residents, but also always under suspicion by militants, often at gunpoint. Not once one or the other neighbor did not return home, because was not able to cross next checkpoint, and did not convinced "militia" that he does not care about the war.  Over time, the body of the unfortunate found on the outskirts of the city with signs of torture. Although there were positive aspects to the public too. Occasionally some of the commanders announced expropriation and allow residents of his controlled district to rob a shop, supermarket or even a bank.  In those days, on the street occurred celebration, there were calls for war and shooting in the air.



But gradually the situation is exacerbated. One by one, closed shops. Problems began with bread. In the evenings the streets were immersed in complete darkness, only in some places where lit bonfires burning by militia. People stood in queues for drinking water, which was brought by truck. To bathe went to the river. And for food families sent 'messengers' to nowhere. Paying duty at each checkpoint, these brave souls returned to feed the family.



Militants stopped being soft to the public. From all was demanded the military fee. For war were taken away selected vehicles of the population. Mostly these were expensive cars. At the beginning, explained that selected from rich ones "on terms". But eventually began to take away not only from rich, and no one was going to explain anything anymore. From time to time broke into various houses to arrest "fascist junta agents." In such case all possessions were taken away. People even often returned alive, but been robed to the skin. These "raids" with time became more frequent. So much so that in each bloke of flats was detected agent of "junta" that was figured out by this or that local commander. Would come minibus and militants without further ceremonies would load possessions of "agent."



The worst thing began with the mobilization into the ranks of DNR. Masked men were taking all the men into militia units. It looked like a real hunt for people that often ended in gunfire. In most cases hunted down "volunteers" were not seen anymore by family. Only occasionally came information that someone has been seen in the trenches during Ilovajskij, and the someone else - body loaded on truck along with other victims at Starobyesheva. On the streets appeared women with printed photos of husbands and sons, they desperately hung flyers on the walls, and even asked passersby. But then they began to be chased by the Russian military, and flyers disappeared, along with the women.

Many from large cities run away to the village, others in contrary moved to the city. Unknown where it was safer. In cities exacerbated the crisis of food. But there though [civilians] could appeal to some kind of authorities. In villages people were totally vulnerable. Began to disappear not only men but also girls. To avoid criticism, raped by militants were killed and disposed away from the villages. Then the militants no longer were afraid of criticism. Rapes became more common, and murders [of raped victims] and disposal of their bodies less common.

Although the military administration still took care of the general reputation because particularly brutal crimes have been investigated, and those responsible indicatively shot for the population to see that the law and justice exist. One fighter, who was charged with the massacre of a family of local residents were tied to a pole. Crime was really terrible - rape of mother and two daughters and the brutal murder of last [two daughters] with grandmother, her husband and two sons. People passing by the pole were urged to beat the maniac with stick stuffed with nails. Some desperate did it, but then people started to avoid that place. After all those who do not agree to mock the maniac were frightened by arrest for complicity. One night on the street hapenned incredible shooting and all thought that ATO forces entered the city. It turned out that it was a group of militants - fellows of convict came to rescue their colleague. In the morning there were no tied up convict and on the street were a few corpses of those who died in the night shooting.



Skirmishes between different groups of militants occur daily. Although often it's just "Strelka" where only rattling of weapons used to threaten each other. Shootings going on for control of various companies, for the harvest of the fields, for checkpoints (a lucrative business), for the warehouses of the food or groceries. When the Russian army entered these attacks became less. But still, there are clashes time to time.

About how live Ukrainians and Ukrainian patriots at all no reason to talk, because of their absence. Even to Russian businessman from Tula difficult to prove that he is not an agent of "junta", if he has an expensive car. So what to say about the unfortunate in whose home were found a portrait of Shevchenko or yellow-blue ribbon. Ukrainians remaining "there" by all the means trying to hide their origins, beliefs and attitudes. Try not to call anyone in the great Ukraine, do not keep in touch with relatives living in the liberated ATO zone.

Recently the situation has reached its critical point. Ruins, military, and with a bit here a bit there trumps - civilians. Towns and villages were deserted. Windows boarded by boards as during the plague. And in the mornings and evenings - shelling and shooting. And no one believes anymore that one day everything was different ...


http://www.informator.su/pravda-pro-dnr-y12aku-ne-hochetsya-znati456111/


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« Reply #456 on: September 28, 2014, 05:59:46 AM »
I'm sure they have different view of their future. Your slogans vs. their guns, who will win?  :)

Ekaterina Gubareva, the wife of prominent  leader of rebels.


Women militia in Lisichansk (Donetsk region):


Oh common, isn't this one more glamorous?


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« Reply #457 on: September 28, 2014, 07:01:43 AM »
Lets do not forget glamorous selfies RF paratroopers do in UKraine and glamorous video RF paratrooper
Dmitrey Grizuk filmed in Ukraine.



Or how about these glamorous photos? Purpose of them was to capture torture and killings of Ukrainian soldiers. Aren't they look attractive to русской мрази?

















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« Reply #458 on: September 28, 2014, 07:07:19 AM »
For reality deprived Belvis:

How to survive in the occupied territory?



Special correspondent of INFORMATOR returned from the East Ukraine.

His task was to investigate the lives of citizens who remained on the other side of the front. The journalist has collected a lot of material that passed on to our resource - shelling one area, turning off the water in the other, the approach of Russian armored vehicles. All that we have been receiving directly from the scene. Today, after returning "from the other side" he told about life of Ukrainians, system of government, unemployment, mobilization of DNR and LNR, and much more. Reading below, it is hard to believe that all of this happening now, not somewhere in the distant African country, but close by to us, just a few hundred kilometers away...

First, the problems started with the delivery of products. Prices soared. Electricity and water periodically were disappearing, and in the territory of LNR many areas have become cut off from these benefits. Companies and firms began mass closing. Kilometers long column of trucks stood in line for weeks at checkpoints - the owners of factories were taking everything of value from the zone ATO.

When everything only started, locals were not too afraid of the people in masks and with St. George ribbons. Last behaved harshly, but did not touch civilians. Everyone learned - places where there are people in masks better to bypass by the tenth road. After all, verification's, hour interrogations, searches made ​​it clear that civilians are not only residents, but also always under suspicion by militants, often at gunpoint. Not once one or the other neighbor did not return home, because was not able to cross next checkpoint, and did not convinced "militia" that he does not care about the war.  Over time, the body of the unfortunate found on the outskirts of the city with signs of torture. Although there were positive aspects to the public too. Occasionally some of the commanders announced expropriation and allow residents of his controlled district to rob a shop, supermarket or even a bank.  In those days, on the street occurred celebration, there were calls for war and shooting in the air.



But gradually the situation is exacerbated. One by one, closed shops. Problems began with bread. In the evenings the streets were immersed in complete darkness, only in some places where lit bonfires burning by militia. People stood in queues for drinking water, which was brought by truck. To bathe went to the river. And for food families sent 'messengers' to nowhere. Paying duty at each checkpoint, these brave souls returned to feed the family.



Militants stopped being soft to the public. From all was demanded the military fee. For war were taken away selected vehicles of the population. Mostly these were expensive cars. At the beginning, explained that selected from rich ones "on terms". But eventually began to take away not only from rich, and no one was going to explain anything anymore. From time to time broke into various houses to arrest "fascist junta agents." In such case all possessions were taken away. People even often returned alive, but been robed to the skin. These "raids" with time became more frequent. So much so that in each bloke of flats was detected agent of "junta" that was figured out by this or that local commander. Would come minibus and militants without further ceremonies would load possessions of "agent."



The worst thing began with the mobilization into the ranks of DNR. Masked men were taking all the men into militia units. It looked like a real hunt for people that often ended in gunfire. In most cases hunted down "volunteers" were not seen anymore by family. Only occasionally came information that someone has been seen in the trenches during Ilovajskij, and the someone else - body loaded on truck along with other victims at Starobyesheva. On the streets appeared women with printed photos of husbands and sons, they desperately hung flyers on the walls, and even asked passersby. But then they began to be chased by the Russian military, and flyers disappeared, along with the women.

Many from large cities run away to the village, others in contrary moved to the city. Unknown where it was safer. In cities exacerbated the crisis of food. But there though [civilians] could appeal to some kind of authorities. In villages people were totally vulnerable. Began to disappear not only men but also girls. To avoid criticism, raped by militants were killed and disposed away from the villages. Then the militants no longer were afraid of criticism. Rapes became more common, and murders [of raped victims] and disposal of their bodies less common.

Although the military administration still took care of the general reputation because particularly brutal crimes have been investigated, and those responsible indicatively shot for the population to see that the law and justice exist. One fighter, who was charged with the massacre of a family of local residents were tied to a pole. Crime was really terrible - rape of mother and two daughters and the brutal murder of last [two daughters] with grandmother, her husband and two sons. People passing by the pole were urged to beat the maniac with stick stuffed with nails. Some desperate did it, but then people started to avoid that place. After all those who do not agree to mock the maniac were frightened by arrest for complicity. One night on the street hapenned incredible shooting and all thought that ATO forces entered the city. It turned out that it was a group of militants - fellows of convict came to rescue their colleague. In the morning there were no tied up convict and on the street were a few corpses of those who died in the night shooting.



Skirmishes between different groups of militants occur daily. Although often it's just "Strelka" where only rattling of weapons used to threaten each other. Shootings going on for control of various companies, for the harvest of the fields, for checkpoints (a lucrative business), for the warehouses of the food or groceries. When the Russian army entered these attacks became less. But still, there are clashes time to time.

About how live Ukrainians and Ukrainian patriots at all no reason to talk, because of their absence. Even to Russian businessman from Tula difficult to prove that he is not an agent of "junta", if he has an expensive car. So what to say about the unfortunate in whose home were found a portrait of Shevchenko or yellow-blue ribbon. Ukrainians remaining "there" by all the means trying to hide their origins, beliefs and attitudes. Try not to call anyone in the great Ukraine, do not keep in touch with relatives living in the liberated ATO zone.

Recently the situation has reached its critical point. Ruins, military, and with a bit here a bit there trumps - civilians. Towns and villages were deserted. Windows boarded by boards as during the plague. And in the mornings and evenings - shelling and shooting. And no one believes anymore that one day everything was different ...


http://www.informator.su/pravda-pro-dnr-y12aku-ne-hochetsya-znati456111/

 :shock:

Thank you for posting this. 


I guess JayH wasn't a nutter after all.  I expect the apologies to him and other pro-Ukrainian members will roll in from Doll and her ilk. 

 :rolleyes:

well, we can hol.   :D

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« Reply #459 on: September 28, 2014, 07:12:23 AM »
Ekaterina Gubareva, the wife of prominent  leader of rebels.


I am really struggling to understand the choice of photo you have decided to post.

Why not something along lines of video below? It shows way better prominence of Andrey Gubarev. Readers will better grasp his prominence and generosity by being able to see his personal gifts to civilians of Donbass.



 

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« Reply #460 on: September 28, 2014, 09:16:59 AM »
OK, next story.
Nastya Pyaterikova, 24 yo, former dancer:


Now she is fighting among Lugansk rebels:

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« Reply #461 on: September 28, 2014, 09:29:23 AM »
OK, next story.
Nastya Pyaterikova, bla bla bla

As you wish. Next story - Putin's chastisers executed 40 residents of Lutugino and mocked over their grave

Russian mercenaries and militants of the terrorist organization LNR executed 40 civilians in the city Lutugino.

The shooting by the terrorists been held on September 24 in the city, told Informator.lg.ua said one of the residents of the city.

According to him, people were shot because they were helping the Ukrainian army.

"Bodies have been dusted with some ground, and after that the burial place been "ironed" by heavy equipment", - said a resident Lutugino.

According to the companion publication, the Russian mercenaries and local militants entered the city, already with the "executions list."

Let us recall, ATO forces left Lutugino in early September. At the same time to the city came Russian "volunteers".

http://crime.in.ua/node/6399

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« Reply #462 on: September 28, 2014, 01:28:17 PM »
 
I'm sure they have different view of their future. Your slogans vs. their guns, who will win?
Do you think we have no guns? If we only fought with slogans, Slavyansk would remain in the Nazi hands as well as many other cities that the Muscovy bastards were able to take in the spring when we had no army at all. Just compare the map of the war zone in May and in August.


Their guns against our slogans? You ask who will win? Let’s see.

On the 2nd of May, 2014, when Muscovy thugs attacked a peaceful demonstration in Odessa, they did have guns. We had only slogans and anything we could grasp in the street like a rock or a stick.

 
 
And they did kill several people in Deribasovskaya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vCozLFSJN4

Guess who won?

In Kiev, in February 2014 it was the same story: Ukrainians armed with clubs and wooden shields against Muscovy thugs shooting live ammo at them.
Guess who won?

More questions?

As for women, we also have them fighting for Ukraine but it makes no sense to start a contest. I will just remind you that we were able to beat Hitler once with those slogans. We will beat Putin too, even if it takes four years as well. Nazism cannot survive in the world, don’t even hope, be it German or Russian one.
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« Reply #464 on: September 28, 2014, 03:28:16 PM »
"Kidnapped people who have money, brought them to SBU. Unless for them been brought ransom, they were shot."

Security Service of Ukraine detained in Markov district of Lugansk region militant who participated in the night shelling of residential areas of Lugansk and seen other members of LNR to do same.

40-year-old Sergey Ilchenko lived in Lugansk and in peaceful time worked as a loader. In May in the search of work, he appealed to a certain Artur-"metadonschik" which redirected him to the military commissariat near the bus station, where was LNR battalion "Dawn". There he was placed to work with "Grad", where he spent about a month. For his work Il'chenko received ration and 300 hryvnia per day.

"They said: you will load and charge" - says the man. According to him, KAMAZ with medical symbols constantly exported missiles to be installed in the area Herstal (quarter Heroes of Stalingrad in Artem region of Lugansk - ed.). From this facility, which cruised through the city, shelled residential areas of Lugansk.

"Going on shelling, spotter tells where to strike. If hit the right place, it continues, after shelling collecting everything and leaving, because after 5-10 minutes will be "return flow".

Il'chenko admitted that militants fired Lugansk "simply so" to intimidate the local population. "I do not know who commanded this, but I got into this f*** (and got a concussion - ed.). They drive on jeeps, rear opens out, Whack-Whack and drive away. Kids there, no one gives s** ..."

"In Martovke I collided with him once: he was leaving to Russia to meet with Zhirinovsky. Says: I come back - you will work for me in intelligence, will go with the guys in Russia for training."

According to "militiaman" in Lugansk everyone has weapons. He by himself had a Makarov pistol and a Kalashnikov rifle. But the latter he did not use, as  "on the way when you charging" (rocket "Grad" - ed.).

Ilchenko told also about how LNR been taking locals as prisoner.

"Kidnapped people who have money, brought them to SBU. Unless for them been brought ransom, they were shot. In the same place, behind SBU, there is a hole [grave], dumped them there. People were deprived of a car or an apartment, said to rewrite [pass ownership]. If not (refused to rewrite - ed.), then shot and dumped."

"Came to elderly, saying: lets go into the basement, give me the money. Gave suitcase (with money - ed.) - Released. No - shot. Do not want to give - will exchange car, squeeze out, repaint and let the boys ride. Humans three per day vanished."

Together with Gromov worked his common-in-law wife, who participated in the shooting of people. "I'm with such people in my life did not encounter. I wonder how he even went for it" (the relationship with a woman - ed.).

Not a single execution did not pass without the consent of Gromov. He personally conducted the interrogation "with his Mademoiselle." The reason for the shooting have always been money. "He did not care who they (the prisoners - ed.) were, military or non-military." Also, according to him, in LNR goes the trafficking of children. Gunmen steal them from the locals, bring in captured Security Service building and demand ransom.

According Il'chenko, "People's Governor" of LNR Valery Bolotoff recently resigned, had no effect on the militants. "Bolotoff and others - for "deception "... If Gromov will need, he will remove them and leave."

On the question of the investigator, will militants of LNR be ready to go in close fight if the Ukrainian army will break in the city, Il'chenko answered unequivocally: will not go. According to him, part of LNR is not more than 30 thousand people, and basically all combat capability focused on "Grad".

At the end of the questioning, answering the question of what will happen to the militants, when to the city will enter the army, he suggests: "Russia will not accept them ..."

Currently Sergey Ilchenko is accused of participating in a terrorist group. According to article 258-3 of the Criminal Code such a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term of 8 to 15 years.

http://crime.in.ua/statti/20140904/videopriznanie

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« Reply #465 on: September 28, 2014, 07:28:38 PM »
In other news, it appeared that over the weekend someone sneezed too hard and the Lenin statue in Kharkiv fell down as a result...

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« Reply #466 on: September 28, 2014, 07:34:21 PM »
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On August 7, hours after arriving in rebel-controlled Donetsk, in eastern Ukraine, Dmytro Potekhin, a civic activist from Kiev, wandered past the Liverpool Hotel, a boutique guest house – now apparently abandoned – where he once stayed with a girlfriend. He took out his camera. That was a big mistake.

A rebel with a machine gun emerged and demanded to see Mr Potekhin’s passport. Spotting Mr Potekhin’s Kiev registration stamp, the man grabbed him, pulled a bag over his head, and took him into the empty hotel where he was held overnight.

After a brief interrogation the next day, Mr Potekhin was taken to what locals call the “isolator” – the basement of an arts centre near downtown Donetsk that separatists have turned into a security base and, in effect, a dungeon.

So began 48 days of what seems scarcely imaginable in 21st-century Europe: forced labour, intimidation and humiliation, as hostage of the Russian-backed separatists who control Ukraine’s southeast corner.

“Porridge and cold soup, if you can call it that, was served about twice a day when time permitted,” said Mr Potekhin, 38. “We slept on the floor, using polystyrene padding as insulation. There were hundreds of us.”

Mr Potekhin’s tale, told to the Financial Times as it accompanied him out of Donetsk after his release this week, shines a light on one of the darker parts of the five-month-old conflict in eastern Ukraine – the extra-judicial abduction of scores of citizens.

Captives find themselves in a shadowy world of gun-toting jailers and security men, at least some of them, according to the rebels themselves, Russian or Russian-linked.

With his outsize “hipster” glasses, Mr Potekhin, the son of a diplomat who served in Ukraine’s embassy in Washington, stood out among the dungeon’s diverse inmates. He works as an activist with non-governmental organisations, such as the US-Ukraine Foundation, teaching non-violent resistance techniques. He took part in Ukraine’s 2004 “Orange” revolution and writes occasional articles.

Mr Potekhin went to Donetsk last month to look into reports that Ukrainian forces were shelling residential areas and planned an opinion piece for a Canadian magazine – activities which apparently aroused rebel suspicions that he was spying for Kiev.

Other hostages ranged from businessmen to drug addicts. Inmates were, according to Mr Potekhin, routinely shaken down for ransoms or “donations”. He saw one local entrepreneur freed after agreeing to buy uniforms for separatist forces.

Many were intimidated into serving as rebel fighters or providing forced labour, such as cleaning streets, digging trenches, helping transport stolen cars and even carrying artillery shells.

Hostages suspected that they were also being used as a human shield, to deter Ukrainian forces from shelling. For weeks they flinched at the constant booms of artillery fire outside, which continued in Donetsk even this week despite a September 5 ceasefire.

With limited access to water and washrooms, prisoners resorted to constructing makeshift toilets.

“Other prisoners were routinely beaten hard,” Mr Potekhin recalled. “We heard them screaming from nearby rooms and saw them come back later, all bloody.”

Mr Potekhin was comparatively well-treated – hit hard on the back of the head only once, he said, and fired at by a rebel guard intending only to intimidate him. He was spared, he speculated, because he was submissive – or possibly an object of curiosity.

He engaged his rebel interrogators in discussion, trying to talk his way out, and his captors into common sense.

“Although they claim to be fighting against Nazis” – who, according to Russian propaganda, have taken over Kiev – “they are themselves like a light version of the Nazis,” Mr Potekhin said. “They’re driven to extreme violence by Russian nationalist views, hatred, and intolerance of all western culture, homosexuals, and Catholics.

“The effect of brainwashing by Russian television is more serious than I could ever have imagined.”

During interrogations, Mr Potekhin was asked about democracy seminars he attended at Stanford University – organised by Michael McFaul, later US ambassador to Moscow – and if western intelligence had recruited him to organise “colour” revolutions. Once, in another building, he was questioned by a man the rebels told him was an officer of Russia’s FSB security service.

Tanya Lokshina, a Human Rights Watch official who has visited Donetsk, said Mr Potekhin’s account matched that of many ex-prisoners. She described their treatment as “war crimes”.

“[The rebels] are actually flaunting humiliation of prisoners, demonstrating their disregard for international law,” she said. “Russia is complicit as it is not using its leverage over the rebels to stop these crimes.”

Russia has denied any connection with the rebels and countered that some of its own journalists were abducted by pro-Kiev forces. Russian media have also said there were abuses by Ukrainian authorities.

Release for Mr Potekhin came suddenly this week, when he was taken to the rebels’ security ministry and freed, wearing a filthy T-shirt and jeans, and a camouflage jacket handed to him by a rebel.

An investigator at the ministry, Mr Potekhin said, claimed his detention had been a “mistake” but urged him to be “objective” in revealing details about his experience.

Phone calls to a rebel investigator involved in Mr Potekhin’s case went unanswered. A Donetsk separatist spokesman declined to comment. “We don’t give information by phone,” he said.

As for Mr Potekhin, he was on a westbound train on Friday evening, heading for his home in Kiev. “My visit to Donetsk,” he said, “was part of my non-violent resistance activity.”
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« Reply #469 on: September 29, 2014, 10:08:41 AM »
Do you think we have no guns? If we only fought with slogans, Slavyansk would remain in the Nazi hands as well as many other cities that the Muscovy bastards were able to take in the spring when we had no army at all. Just compare the map of the war zone in May and in August.


Their guns against our slogans? You ask who will win? Let’s see.

On the 2nd of May, 2014, when Muscovy thugs attacked a peaceful demonstration in Odessa, they did have guns. We had only slogans and anything we could grasp in the street like a rock or a stick.


Hey Stirlitz, I hear that there are preparations by the FSB to start unrest in Odessa, similar to what happened in Donetsk. Keep your eyes and ears wide open.


As for women, we also have them fighting for Ukraine but it makes no sense to start a contest. I will just remind you that we were able to beat Hitler once with those slogans. We will beat Putin too, even if it takes four years as well. Nazism cannot survive in the world, don’t even hope, be it German or Russian one.


Well, heh, Russia also have women working hard. Take a look.


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« Reply #471 on: September 30, 2014, 12:58:09 AM »

Hey Stirlitz, I hear that there are preparations by the FSB to start unrest in Odessa, similar to what happened in Donetsk. Keep your eyes and ears wide open.
I keep hearing news like this all the time. Don’t worry, Odessa is not going to surrender to the Nazis. We have determination, we have means. I know what I say. Although I am not going to go into details.
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« Reply #472 on: September 30, 2014, 08:06:06 AM »
I keep hearing news like this all the time. Don’t worry, Odessa is not going to surrender to the Nazis. We have determination, we have means. I know what I say. Although I am not going to go into details.


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« Reply #473 on: September 30, 2014, 08:21:08 AM »
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« Reply #474 on: September 30, 2014, 08:43:09 AM »
Anyway, back to the war with the terrorists.


Russia just announced a criminal case against Ukraine's political and military leadership on September 29, for what it called "genocide" against Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine. I mean, these guys has some balls of steel.

Yep, genocide.

Except the terrorists are not part of the Ukrainian military nor political class. More like Russian slaves vassals.

Maybe Ukraine should file a criminal case against Russia and its slaves vassals. Plenty of proof going on.

http://en.censor.net.ua/video_news/304974/terrorists_conduct_shelling_from_residential_districts_of_donetsk_video
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