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Ukrainian Front Discussion / Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Last post by ML on Today at 07:28:47 AM »Ukraine is not going to lose the war.
Not in the sense that most all of Ukraine will be occupied by Russian military.
Occupation of enemy territory is a very costly undertaking, and Ukrainians will never stop fighting a guerilla war if necessary.
But to the other points . . . Russia is not going to run out of any military equipment.
They have already geared up to a full war time economy to mass produce all they need and will continue to get from China, N. Korea, Iran and others.
The real problem for Putin and his like minded successors will be (if the Russian people ever wake up) when people get tired of not having the upscale and even basic consumer goods they have become used to because such are not being produced and no money to import or restrictions on importing.
Russians by nature and history like to suffer.
But how hard and long they will be willing to suffer is another question.
Some real progress in this direction would be if western countries expell ALL Russians . . . students, business persons, retirees, etc.
Most all Russians support Putin . . . but still they want their children to be educated abroad . . . and probably stay abroad.
They are willing and eager to suffer . . . but don't neccessarily want their children to.
Remember how there used to be a wholesale event of pregnant Russian women flying to Florida and elsewhere to give birth to attain US citizenship for their children ?
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Over breakfast this morning wife was telling me another interesting tidbit.
Russia's Black Sea fleet was built up as a Turkish deterrent.
With Ukraine having fairly good success at destroying parts of the Russian fleet . . . .
Not in the sense that most all of Ukraine will be occupied by Russian military.
Occupation of enemy territory is a very costly undertaking, and Ukrainians will never stop fighting a guerilla war if necessary.
But to the other points . . . Russia is not going to run out of any military equipment.
They have already geared up to a full war time economy to mass produce all they need and will continue to get from China, N. Korea, Iran and others.
The real problem for Putin and his like minded successors will be (if the Russian people ever wake up) when people get tired of not having the upscale and even basic consumer goods they have become used to because such are not being produced and no money to import or restrictions on importing.
Russians by nature and history like to suffer.
But how hard and long they will be willing to suffer is another question.
Some real progress in this direction would be if western countries expell ALL Russians . . . students, business persons, retirees, etc.
Most all Russians support Putin . . . but still they want their children to be educated abroad . . . and probably stay abroad.
They are willing and eager to suffer . . . but don't neccessarily want their children to.
Remember how there used to be a wholesale event of pregnant Russian women flying to Florida and elsewhere to give birth to attain US citizenship for their children ?
- - - - - -
Over breakfast this morning wife was telling me another interesting tidbit.
Russia's Black Sea fleet was built up as a Turkish deterrent.
With Ukraine having fairly good success at destroying parts of the Russian fleet . . . .
