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Re: Ukraine Can Win - TomT's Absurdity
« Reply #200 on: March 26, 2015, 07:25:58 AM »
If they pull their military out of Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts, give Russia free access to Krym, resume services to the separatist areas, pay their debts (both gas and bonds) and stop siphoning gas, the war would be over.

The height of absurdity. 

Yes, the war would be over.  This would reward the aggressors who seized sovereign territory from Ukraine, something in violation of fundamental principles of international peace.  This would penalize a country endeavoring to change its economy and follow the Western model for a better life. 

One question:  Does Russia stop with the Ukraine's capitulation as you described, or does this embolden them to go for more?

Another question TommyT:   What does this do for world stability?  The Ukrainian capitulation and appeasement to Russia would establish a precedent for the world - namely the stronger countries are permitted to take what they want from their smaller neighbors!   With such permission Iran would have a feast - seize the Shia areas from Iraq, then move through Kuwait and Saudi Arabia to hook up with fellow Shia believers "persecuted"  in Yemen. 

At that point, Iran and Russia would control a majority of the oil in the world.    Russia would probably support Iran's sweep through the Gulf states knowing oil prices would increase to astronomical levels.    Ponder what that would do to the world's economy! 


You are wrong TomT, grossly wrong.   The time to stop aggression against neighbors is now. 

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #201 on: March 26, 2015, 07:28:08 AM »
LT,


You asked for a proposal about how to end the war. If you don't like my solution and prefer one that includes the carpet bombing of K'yiv, then write to your congressman and demand that we send lethal weapons to Ukraine.


I've ignored your question about justification because it's one of your usual BS oblique arguments.



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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #202 on: March 26, 2015, 08:02:53 AM »
LT,


You asked for a proposal about how to end the war. If you don't like my solution and prefer one that includes the carpet bombing of K'yiv, then write to your congressman and demand that we send lethal weapons to Ukraine.


Carpet bombing on one hand and Iranian invasion of the Gulf nations on another.  Two extremes, and we both know neither will happen. 

I consider your proposal that Ukraine bend over for public sodomy without lubricant just as extreme.  Achieving a stalemate is key to me.  Stalemate is no further advances by the rebels and Russia, while maintaining its rightful claim to both Crimea and Novarussia (or compensation for the loss).   

Such a stalemate can happen only if Ukraine can defend itself.  And to defend itself, Ukraine needs lethal weapons.  Not the type that allows Ukraine to go on offense as IMO the contested regions should be allowed to wither away, dependent solely upon Russian aid.

So what's wrong with a stalemate TomT?  And how is it achieved?

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #203 on: March 26, 2015, 02:19:40 PM »
LT,


You asked for a proposal about how to end the war. If you don't like my solution and prefer one that includes the carpet bombing of K'yiv, then write to your congressman and demand that we send lethal weapons to Ukraine.


I've ignored your question about justification because it's one of your usual BS oblique arguments.

Its too bad you cannot answer simply questions that clarify your ideas.  Perhaps your ideas are not worth considering.  That is a poor assessment for a fellow author.

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #204 on: March 29, 2015, 01:41:34 PM »

You must be confusing me with one of your other admirers because I've written little about the sanctions.


Truly, the Ukrainian government forces have won some stunning victories, especially at Ilovaisk, Donetsk airport and Debaltseve! They are in serious danger of becoming overconfident.


Despite the fact they were fighting forces with overwhelmingly superior firepower, Ukrainian forces managed to keep a large part of Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts in Ukrainian hands.  That is not nothing.
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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #205 on: March 29, 2015, 02:45:51 PM »
Minsk II calls for full control of the border by Ukraine before the end of 2015.  I find that HIGHLY unlikely.  I find Russian occupation of the Black Sea area, all the way to Transnisteria to be much more probable.

However, it is my belief that there is no a contingency plan in place for this eventuality - Western Reaction should Russia move on Mariupol and into Kherson and Odessa.
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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #206 on: March 29, 2015, 07:12:02 PM »
A land bridge to Moldova is possible for a military that spends 50 times what Ukraine spends.  But it is not without strategic risk.  As STRATFOR pointed out in the article Muzh posted, such a land bridge would mean a logistical line and to protect that line it would take a huge troop commitment.  And it would risk troops being cut off on the other side of the Dneiper. 

Russia has to make a choice muddle through hybrid war or abandon it in favor of blitzkrieg.  With the current turmoil in Kremlin created by the sanctions, it is still a fifty fifty proposition.  Ukraine must hold out a little longer regrettably.

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #207 on: April 01, 2015, 08:06:06 PM »
This is a short article that my wife did for NovaDoba.com.ua along with a film clip giving support from several here in Ak.    :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:  ( I think I'll keep her!  :D )

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #208 on: April 02, 2015, 01:10:15 AM »
Nice.
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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #209 on: April 02, 2015, 02:38:45 AM »
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SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #210 on: April 02, 2015, 11:41:49 AM »
She's not in your class yet Mendy. But she's working on it.  :clapping:

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #211 on: June 15, 2015, 07:02:20 PM »
One of the most persistent in calling for real help for Ukraine-McCain continues.
“The Ukrainians aren’t asking for American boots on the ground, they’re just asking for weapons to defend themselves.”

McCain: Not Arming Ukrainians “One Of The Most Shameful Chapters In American History”


Arizona Sen. John McCain says the United States not providing Ukraine with weaponry to defend themselves against Russian aggression is “one of the most shameful chapters in American history.”
The U.S. has provided Ukraine with non-lethal military aid but has denied requests for requests for weapons despite having Congressional authority do so. McCain was one of the lead signatures on a bipartisan letter back in February calling for arming of Ukraine against Russian aggression against their country.
“But, let me just say that one of the most shameful chapters in American history is our failure to provide the Ukrainians with weapons to defend themselves while Vladimir Putin dismembers their country,” the Arizona senator said on the John CATS Roundtable Radio Show on Sunday.
McCain further added the failure to arm the Ukrainians was “disgraceful.”
“The first time since the end of World War II that has happened. The Ukrainians aren’t asking for American boots on the ground, they’re just asking for weapons to defend themselves and they’re being slaughtered by Vladimir Putin and his stooges and it’s disgraceful. I would say that’s as far as our moral commitment is concerned that’s probably one our biggest areas of concern.”
McCain earlier in the interview cited former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger saying that the world has never been in more crises since the end of WWII, noting Chinese aggression into international waterways and events in the Middle East.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/mccain-not-arming-ukrainians-one-of-the-most-shameful-chapte?utm_term=.qpLLglbEg#.vqwLKBken

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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #212 on: June 15, 2015, 07:42:30 PM »


McCain: Not Arming Ukrainians “One Of The Most Shameful Chapters In American History”
 


I disagree with McCain...there are many things we (The USA) have done much more shameful.  Obama has been doing fairly well (all things considered) with the current situation.   


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The escalator of war: Ukraine going up, Russia – down
« Reply #213 on: July 05, 2015, 11:59:01 PM »
There are many pointers where Ukraine is headed-- it requires the discipline and continuing support of the whole country.On the other hand-- Russia's future is being mishandled into reality by Putin and his fellow crooks in the Kremlin-with little prospect of the people at large ever standing up to them.

"Ukraine will end 2015 with its worst ever rate of economic growth. Vladimir Putin might be feeling triumphant. No wonder he tirelessly “poured gasoline” on Ukraine, annexed Crimea, and started slaughtering people on Donbas. Now everyone can see for themselves what Maidan must really mean. If you go out to protest, then your territory will be taken away, you’ll see war, your national currency will fall. But where there are no protests, life is just fine for the docile and responsible…


Only now life for the docile and responsible is no better than that of the troublemakers. In the rankings of economic declines, Russia is right down there with Ukraine.

Both countries have almost the same decline in GDP: Ukraine – 4 percent as compared with the fourth quarter of last year. In Russia it’s 3.5 percent. And this despite the fact that Ukraine has lost territory, while Russia has acquired territory. This despite the fact that there is a war in Ukraine, while in Russia there is peace. This despite the fact that Ukraine has no energy to export, while Russia has both oil and gas. Nevertheless, the Russian economy is going to hell in a handbasket!"


The escalator of war: Ukraine going up, Russia – down

This is precisely why, even during war, a fallen national currency, and a rather sluggish pace of reform, Ukraine’s GDP has only declined 4 percent.

But in Russia, GDP decline is a close 3.5%. In Russia there should not have been such a decline. There are no objective reasons for it. There are of course plenty of subjective reasons. Russia continues to be run by stupid greedy thieves, very similar to those of Ukraine’s recent past. By the way, Ukraine’s thieves also moved on to Russia, but fortunately for the Russians, they don’t run anything any longer, they just give interviews. About how they love ostriches. But for the final robbery and destruction of the Russian economy, Russia has enough of its own thieves.

If it is true that even the chairman of Russia’s Investigative Committee, the high and mighty Bastrykin, is appointed on the recommendation of crime bosses, you can appreciate the full extent of the gangster occupation of the country. This is no exaggeration. It is even an understatement of the problem. Because it turns out that when a Bastrykin fights with the Tsapkys [a notorious Russian gang — Ed.], this is not a war between the state and the gang, but a war between the big gang and the little one. All of Russia is such an enormous colony of thieves legally inside the Kremlin and the White House [in Russia it houses the State Duma, the Russian parliament — Ed.], the master gangsters in the FSB and the State Duma, and their servants – the television propagandists. And you say – 3.5 percent!

What will happen next? The same thing of course, don’t doubt it. It’s like the movement of the escalator. If you are on the stairway that leads downward – you will undoubtedly reach the subterranean depths. And vice versa – if you decide to go up to the surface, as you exit, you can take a deep breath. Yes, you may encounter rain or catch a cold, but still you’ll be on earth, not in your grave.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/07/05/the-escalator-of-war-ukraine-going-up-russia-down/
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #214 on: July 31, 2015, 12:19:25 AM »
This would be a start to making this battle more even.Not-- reinforcement that it is equipment and not troops that are needed.




WAR
Poroshenko: "We're looking for just 1,240 Javelin missiles"
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Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko says that Ukraine needs 1,240 Javelin anti-tank missile systems in an answer to a question about the kind of weapons his armed forces would need to deter further aggression by Russia and its separatist proxies in eastern Ukraine, The Wall Street Journal wrote referring to an interview with the president.
"We're looking for just 1,240 Javelin missiles, and this is absolutely fair," he told The Wall Street Journal.

The number of 1,240 has special significance for Poroshenko. He said that was the number of nuclear warheads Ukraine had given up under the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, jointly signed by the U.S., Britain and Russia.

"Ukraine voluntarily gave up its nuclear arsenal," Poroshenko said, "and in exchange for that the United States of America and Great Britain ... promised to guarantee our sovereignty and territorial integrity," The Wall Street Journal quoted Poroshenko as saying.

At this, Poroshenko stressed that Ukraine is not "demanding that British, American or French soldiers come here and fight for us."

"We are doing this ourselves, paying the most difficult price – the lives of my soldiers. We need just solidarity," Poroshenko said.

"If we do not stop the aggressor, that means global security doesn't exist. Anytime, any plane or submarine can make a missile attack, including against the U.S.," he told The Wall Street Journal.

There is a constant shelling of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians by Russian-backed militants, Poroshenko noted adding that the total death toll of civilians and military personnel in eastern Ukraine is now close to 9,000 people.

"Nobody can imagine that this can happen in the center of Europe in the 21st century," Poroshenko emphasized.

As UNIAN reported earlier, Ukraine's newly appointed ambassador to the United States Valeriy Chaly said that Ukrainians would need at least 1,000 Javelin missile systems in case of a further large-scale Russian-launched offensive in Donbas.

http://www.unian.info/war/1105988-poroshenko-were-looking-for-just-1240-javelin-missiles.html

Javelin Portable Anti-Tank Missile

The Javelin is a portable anti-tank weapon, supplied by the Raytheon / Lockheed Martin Javelin joint venture. It is shoulder-fired but can also be installed on tracked, wheeled or amphibious vehicles.
In 1989, the US army awarded a contract for the development of Javelin as a replacement for the M47 Dragon anti-tank missile. The Javelin joint venture was formed by Texas Instruments (now Raytheon Missile Systems) of Dallas, Texas, and Lockheed Martin Electronics and Missiles (now Missiles and Fire Control), of Orlando, Florida, US.
Raytheon is responsible for the command launch unit (CLU), missile guidance electronic unit, system software and system engineering management. Lockheed Martin is responsible for the missile seeker, engineering and assembly.
The Javelin entered full-rate production in 1994 and the system was first deployed in June 1996 by the US army at Fort Benning, Georgia.
"Javelin is a shoulder-fired, portable anti-tank weapon."
The Javelin system saw operational service with the US army and Marine Corps, as well as the Australian special forces during Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003 and is currently deployed in Afghanistan. The CLU is also being used in surveillance operations. The standalone mode usage of the CLU was proved to be effective in target detection and battlefield reconnaissance when it was deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq. More than 2,000 rounds have been fired by the US and coalition forces.
The missile achieved a higher range of 4,750m during a demonstration in February 2013. Five Javelins were successfully fired as part of the joint exercise, called Yudh Abhyas, between the Indian and US armies in June 2013. A Javelin missile was successfully test-fired from a turret at Cranfield Ordnance Test and Evaluation Centre (COTEC) in May 2014.
The Javelin JV demonstrated the launch of a missile from a wheeled vehicle's remote weapon station in July 2014.
Javelin procured for light forces anti-tank guided weapon system (LFATGWS)

In January 2003, the UK Ministry of Defence announced that it had decided to procure Javelin for the light forces anti-tank guided weapon system (LFATGWS) requirement. The initial order was for 18 launchers and 144 missiles. Javelin replaced the Milan system and entered service with the British army in July 2005.
Javelin equips the army's rapid reaction forces, including 16 air assault brigades, three commando brigades and mechanised infantry. BAE Systems and a number of other UK companies are providing subsystems for the missiles. In October 2004, a further order was placed to equip the armoured infantry and formation reconnaissance forces from 2007, replacing the Swingfire ATGW.

Javelin missile system operation

The system is deployed and ready to fire in less than 30s and the reload time is less than 20s. The missile is mounted on the CLU and the gunner engages the target using the sight on the CLU, by placing a curser box over the image of the target. The gunner locks on the automatic target tracker in the missile by sending a lock-on-before-launch command to the missile. When the system is locked-on, the missile is ready to fire and the gunner does not carry out post launch tracking or missile guidance.
"The Javelin system is deployed and ready to fire in less than 30s and the reload time is less than 20s."
Unlike laser beam riding or conventional wire or fibre-optic cable guided missiles, Javelin is autonomously guided to the target after launch, leaving the gunner free to reposition or reload immediately after launch.
A soft launch ejects the missile from the launch tube to give a low-recoil shoulder launch. The soft launch enables firing from inside buildings or covered positions. Once the missile is clear, the larger propellant in the second stage is ignited and the missile is propelled towards the target. The weapon has two attack modes, direct or top attack.
The gunner selects direct attack mode to engage covered targets, bunkers, buildings and helicopters.
The top attack mode is selected against tanks, in which case the Javelin climbs above and strikes down on the target to penetrate the roof of the tank where there is the least armour protection.
The missile is launched at an 18° elevation angle to reach a peak altitude of 150m in top attack mode and 50m in direct fire mode.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/javelin/
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #215 on: August 26, 2015, 07:13:23 PM »

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #216 on: October 08, 2015, 03:39:55 PM »
Elsewhere on the forum the concept of Ukraine "giving up" on the east is countenanced. I am 100% against ever conceding anything to Russia on a permanent basis.That includes any form of Russian control . I wrote last year that the immediate aim for Ukraine was to prevent a wider invasion by Russia-- that has now been achieved--but--it still leaves the problem in the east( & Crimea) .
The article below deals with issues with some pertinent observations and conclusions.



Ukraine learns realpolitik


Russian aggression has pushed Ukraine and its elites out of their idealistic comfort zones and into the harsh realities of realpolitik. While Horbulin sees a military solution as highly unlikely, Kyiv cannot ignore the long-term Russian military threat, particularly in light of Moscow's 2014 military doctrine calling for a multi-billion dollar modernization of its armed forces.

The solution to the conflict in the occupied territories must be guided by cold pragmatism. Horbulin writes that the question of NATO membership "no longer splits us along ideological lines," but rather is "indispensable to our security."


The Donbas is no longer central to Kyiv's economic calculations. The conflict has destroyed the myth that the Donbas was the lynchpin of Ukraine's economy, something that even those in the Donbas have realized.

The conflict has realigned the prestige of professions and social roles in Ukraine. For years, Ukrainian attitudes toward the military were ambivalent. That has changed profoundly. The socioeconomic prominence of miners, long glorified in the Soviet past and further mythologized in the post-Soviet decades, is fading, as the war has shut practically all mines in the region. More than a million internally displaced refugees are changing the country's social fabric. Many elderly residents have been abandoned in the occupied territories, and the number of orphans and homeless is growing. Ukraine is forced to confront the social reintegration of war veterans, many of whom return from the Donbas traumatized and permanently disabled.

Communication with Ukrainians who have remained in the occupied territories is another challenge. Not all those who stayed behind are supporters of the occupying forces. Kyiv must maintain contact with those people so they do not feel abandoned, writes Horbulin.

The Donbas Black Hole



What Russia hoped would be a small, victorious war has turned into the "geostrategic disaster of a new cold war," writes Volodymyr Horbulin, a respected foreign policy analyst currently advising Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.

In an article in Dzerkalo Tyzhnia, Horbulin argues that the main participants in the war have exhausted themselves. The Donbas has become a black hole from which Russia, its creator, cannot escape.

Hybrid war succeeded in Crimea, but it failed in the Donbas. Ukraine's economic blockade of the occupied territories has strained Russia financially. Separatist leaders in Donetsk and Luhansk are incompetent, forcing Moscow to augment its military advisers with administrators. Returning Russian "volunteers" are a problem for Moscow, which has already asked rebels to create a border force to prevent former fighters from coming home to make trouble.

The Kremlin says that sanctions aren't hurting, but cheap credit is gone, the ruble has plunged, and these ills will only get worse, Horbulin predicts. Russia's trade has shrunk by one-third in recent months. Capital flight in 2014 totaled 150 billion dollars. This is why Russia desperately wants to end Western sanctions.

Russia's leaders thought that energy exports, nuclear arms, and a role in Middle East negotiations made them immune to European and US pressure. The truth was different, Horbulin notes. Russia's elite now faces the reality of damaged relations with the West. Direct Russian military intervention in the Donbas would change the game, but it would also destroy relations with the West. Horbulin sees confrontation as unlikely.

Russia's attempts at reorientation, primarily toward China, haven't borne fruit. Negotiations on the Power of Siberia gas transit system show how Beijing can exploit Moscow's weak hand. As both Ukraine and Europe reduce their natural gas purchases from Russia, and China increasingly develops technology to mine shale gas, Russia's geostrategic doctrine of using energy for leverage looks less and less effective.

EU reset

The black hole in eastern Ukraine has drawn the European Union into its orbit, forcing Brussels to take a stand. At first, Europe was "anxious" and "concerned," but Europeans no longer shy away from the terms "Russian aggression," "Kremlin propaganda," and even "tribunal."

The Ukrainian crisis has brought internal EU conflicts into the open, revealing how deeply Moscow has penetrated Europe's political system, particularly in the Czech Republic, France, Germany, and Greece. Horbulin recalls the Stalinist Comintern, which promoted communism in Europe in the 1930s. Today's revived European Comintern influences European countries and the EU as a whole. Greece's Siriza party on the left, the French National Front on the right, and individual European Parliament MPs are all under Moscow's sway and funding, a problem that Brussels cannot ignore.


http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-donbas-black-hole
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #217 on: October 11, 2015, 05:41:43 PM »
Mariupol is part of Ukraine and not swallowed up by the DNR. It's a large city where both the DNR and Kiev are not trusted. Kiev needs to build trust there and reach out to those people. It's a complex problem. A huge part of the population is cynical and without hope. Kiev should reiterate the idea that the Russian language is acceptable. There are many in Mariupol with friends who live in the rebel east. People need to see the tangible benefits implemented by Kyiv.

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #218 on: October 19, 2015, 10:57:36 PM »
S&P raises Ukraine’s sovereign credit ratings



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International Rating Agency Standard & Poor’s raised Ukraine’s credit ratings, according to a company’s Monday press release.

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"We are raising our foreign currency sovereign credit ratings on Ukraine to 'B-/B' from 'SD/D' and our local currency sovereign credit ratings to 'B-/B' from 'CCC+/C'," reads the report by Standard & Poor’s.

"We view the risk of another default in the next two to three years as diminished due to the Ukrainian authorities' commitment to the reforms set out in the International Monetary Fund (IMF) program."

S&P stated that the stable forecast suggests the Ukrainian authorities continue the course toward economic reforms.

As UNIAN reported earlier, Fitch rating agency had also stated it would be raising Ukraine’s sovereign credit ratings, which were earlier downgraded to RD (Restricted Default), as long as the conditions of debt restructuring deal are implemented, and as long as the compromise is reached with the holders of “short” bonds

 http://www.unian.info/economics/1157061-sp-raises-ukraines-sovereign-credit-ratings.html

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #219 on: October 25, 2015, 01:40:57 PM »
Good article on Odessa leading the way in regards to reform and it's potential.

Odessa leads Ukraine's battle to reform

"However, this American-born lawyer and chairman of the British-Ukrainian Chamber of Commerce believes Odessa has the potential to be "one of the richest cities in eastern and central Europe".

In farming terms, he says, Ukraine could become "the California of Europe" because of increased irrigation.

And a new automated, electronic customs system at Odessa's port will, he argues, not only stamp out opportunities for bribes, but will also mean that shipping containers can travel through the port at the same speed "as in Rotterdam or Hamburg".

Odessa, he believes, could become the main transit point from Central and Eastern Europe to Asia."

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #220 on: November 02, 2015, 02:39:22 PM »
This is the attitude & contribution  that is creating the background for Ukraine to win it's self determination for it's own future.

Meet the 25-year-old medical volunteer who has saved dozens of lives in Ukraine's Donbas



Newcomers to Azov Regiment training base in Kyiv listen attentively when 25-year-old Olena Mosiychuk talks and, for good reason – she is teaching them how to stay alive in war.

Mosiychuk is a military doctor with a civilian practice who for more than a year has volunteered on the war front with Azov Regiment.

Throughout last year, she traveled to the most of the hot spots, including the battles in Shyrokyne and Illovaisk, the Azov Sea port city of Mariupol and the village of Hranitne in war-torn Donetsk Oblast.

Mosiychuk, a native of Dnipropetrovsk city in eastern Ukraine, never thought she’d end up being a medical volunteer, but says she has been interested in military since her childhood. She learned the first aid basics herself. Her education also came of a great help, as she has a chemistry major.

Mosiychuk joined Azov lighthearted as many of her friends and EuroMaidan activists were already there. Later she became the first women in the regiment – constantly helping her fellow soldiers under the shelling. She confessed it was “really scary” to experience the mortar shelling for the first time.

“That’s why they (soldiers) didn’t like to see women there at first,” Mosiychuk says in the interview with the Kyiv Post. “But I quickly showed them that I’m a soldier and I can help.”



In the beginning of the winter, Mosiychuk was wounded in Hranitne when the village was shelled by Russian-separatists troops.

She admits it was one of the most tragic days in her life. The shrapnel hit her legs and face, but two of Azov fighters were killed then.

“I lost two of my friends there (in Hranitne),” Mosiychuk recalls. “They were wounded so badly. My friend’s head was smashed.”

She continued rescuing soldiers, adding that she has probably saved about 100 lives. Mosiychuk never gave first aid to Russian-backed separatist, but said she wouldn’t hesitate to do so, because he might be a useful source for Ukrainian military.

However, her blast injuries kept progressing, so Mosiychuk had to leave the war zone for a treatment.

That’s how she ended up in Kyiv’s Azov base this May.

Her everyday routine changed drastically. In Kyiv, Mosiychuk teaches fighters how to treat burns, wounds, use tourniquets, analgesics and hemostatic devices until professional help is available. They also learn how to make use of everyday materials for their battlefield medical kits.

Mosiychuk herself underwent a number of military and medical trainings, including 2-week summer camp in Estonian army organized according to NATO standards.

“When I was in Estonia we even taught our trainers how we treat wounded soldiers on the frontlines,” Mosiychuk recalled. “They were surprised that we can use women hygiene products to plug wounds caused by bullets or shrapnel.”

According to Ukraine’s Defense Ministry, nine of ten casualties die are due to catastrophic blood loss.

That’s why dealing with catastrophic bleeding and to experience combat situations in practice are the most important things for the newcomers – even when the war is far away.

“We have fake blood, other materials to make the wounds look realistic,” Mosiychuk explains, adding that the situation is adapted to hostile and war zone environments. “They may see very nasty things (on the war front) and should be ready for it – physically and mentally,” Mosiychuk says.

She admits she missed being apart from her fellow soldiers and wants to go back to the front line at all cost.

Even a military uniform does not hide her slender frame. Attractive and physically fit, Mosiychuk, however, has no time for herself as she spends “almost 24 hours” helping and training on the base.

“That’s my work which I love,” Mosiychuk says. Her rolled up sleeves expose her arms covered with colorful tattoos. Those are the symbols that “protect” her, Mosiychuk says, adding that it’s not easy to find a spot of her body free of inking.

But her biggest talisman is her 4-year-old son who’s living in Dnipropetrovsk together with Mosiychuk’s mother. She missed him the most, but tries to stay connected as much as possible. “He even boasts about me in the kindergarten,” Mosiychuk says with a smile adding that she’d encourage her son to join the army in the future.

When asked about her dreams, she says she wants peace for her country and a car to visit her son more often – because the one she owned was broken after the year in Donbas.




http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/meet-25-year-old-medical-volunteer-who-saved-dozens-of-lives-in-ukraines-donbas-401166.html
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #221 on: November 03, 2015, 09:05:45 AM »
Jay, why do you insist of posting whole articles that can be read by just clicking on a link?


It is beyond annoying. :rolleyes:
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Re: Ukraine Can Win
« Reply #222 on: November 03, 2015, 01:11:55 PM »
I'd rather read the whole article rather than clicking on the links.  :rolleyes: 

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« Reply #223 on: November 03, 2015, 01:18:55 PM »
There is a copyright issue and all posters have been advised that unless they have permission from the publisher, PM'd to the moderators, they are not to post entire articles.

We have been editing those who refuse to follow the rules as outlined below.  If this gets out of hand, we will just delete articles.

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From what I understand the copy right is nullified IF the link to the original article is shown.

 

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