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Offline msmob

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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #375 on: September 20, 2017, 01:34:23 AM »
Try to make sure you make the flight, this time ! ;)

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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #376 on: September 20, 2017, 02:54:42 AM »
Try to make sure you make the flight, this time ! ;)

I am scheduled for the pool party in Arkadia later today so I hope that does not interfere with my travel plans.....

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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #377 on: September 20, 2017, 08:07:57 AM »
So you come across nothing but good girls in your search for a FSW? ::)

Came across every personality type imaginable.Sincere to pro dater,bat crazy to down to earth.
That doesn't mean I dated them, it was either sorted out before meeting or took one meeting to know (sometimes 2 seconds,which I think was the record)

That's just part of life,and dating or meeting people.
I never viewed any of it as wasted time. It was time well spent regardless.
Well ok , I'll give you that the 2 second meeting  was wasted time lol.



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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #378 on: September 20, 2017, 08:10:46 AM »
My trip is nearing it's end. I return home tomorrow early. Yesterday we met up with a bunch of girls (with kids in tow) at the upscale pizza joint near the apartment again. We ate, drank, laughed and had a wonderful time. We took the kids to a rooftop lounge for tea and napoleon cake afterwards.



It has been an amazing trip full of warm, genuine people and great memories were created. Will have plenty of time back in the US to think what my next step will be.

Good luck to all those searching.

It's great you had a good trip and  shared without sweating any comments.
It takes a confident adventurous  person ,with a bit of thick skin, to have cross cultural relationships (this includes the woman)

Hope you have continued success.
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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #379 on: September 21, 2017, 05:17:20 PM »
$750K/year who earns that, the US President, lol. Well you if you think the problem is more training in the UK most college lecturers even those in the more STEM type of subjects get 30-40K/year or so. Stockbrokers were well renown during the credit crunch (before they lost their jobs) to be on 70-80K/year or so. I could go to college her forever more but I don't think that would help me get to those salaries it would just restrict my earnings while studying. My best best is to work for myself in the Construction Industry, its quite buoyant here and that is what I am starting to shift myself over to. Most employers around in any employed jobs with potential are just looking to work your ass off for scant reward since they wish the reward for themselves. I can't see no sense in that anymore even if the job is considered slightly more status. There's a lot of competition in the UK since so many people go to Uni whether that is changing who knows but I can't hang around to find out. All I would say is those on big bucks here like you HDL or RW many women in FSU would view you like a God if you had that sort of income sloshing around. They will F your brains out regardless of whether they were into you and stick with you for the good times.   


Trench,
I have known my girl for 4 years. She doesn't know what my salary is. She doesn't care. She never asks for anything but my love and respect. I would trust her with my life. Hell I have trusted her with my dog when she visits me at my home. Stop projecting your neurosis on other men. In this journey I have met women that did not match with me. Never met a scammer in person. Why is that, you ask? Because we spent time communicating directly before meeting. You claim to not have time for Skype. So I guess you takes your chances.


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To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #380 on: September 21, 2017, 05:47:20 PM »
You claim to not have time for Skype. So I guess you takes your chances.

HDL

I'm not here to beat Trench up, but he doesn't like Skype because of self esteem/
confidence issues. He also can spend more time recrafting a sentence in a letter
than he can on the fly during a live conversation in Skype.

If he wanted to get better, he would practice in Skype more and he would gain
confidence as he gained experience. That's what women want. Confidence.
The only way to get better at it is by practice. What does he avoid? Practice, it's
a vicious circle.



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FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #381 on: September 23, 2017, 01:57:46 AM »
I'm not here to beat Trench up, but he doesn't like Skype because of self esteem/
confidence issues. He also can spend more time recrafting a sentence in a letter
than he can on the fly during a live conversation in Skype.

If he wanted to get better, he would practice in Skype more and he would gain
confidence as he gained experience. That's what women want. Confidence.
The only way to get better at it is by practice. What does he avoid? Practice, it's
a vicious circle.

Sure, but you yourself took 9 years to find the right one. Time over again what would you do differently if you were looking to shave a bit of time of this and get to the one quicker?

At the moment I simply do not have the time for Skype, etc I have to get some work done and get myself in a better position for this whole game, get my crap together, that I am working on at the moment and should be sorted in the next few months. For me I really want to get over there and meet a lot of women otherwise I think I am just picking one at a time and its going to take a long time - skype is just spending a lot of time doing that. Until I see that there is real undeniable chemistry face to face its just more time spent on the wrong women, time I can do without wasting.

RW here may or may have not hit it lucky, he enjoyed himself and indeed I have enjoyed myself when out in Ukraine, but end of the day finding the right girl is where I want to be.
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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #382 on: September 23, 2017, 05:35:53 AM »


At the moment I simply do not have the time for Skype

'Interesting' ...given the time you spend on here...


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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #383 on: September 25, 2017, 11:33:48 AM »
Sure, but you yourself took 9 years to find the right one.

Why don't we address this here rather than in the trip report.
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=22154.msg468825#msg468825

FSUW are not for entry level daters
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FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #384 on: December 01, 2017, 09:15:46 PM »
Can I just say RW is now my hero.  I gotta say though man, I am dying to see a pic (or pics) of your girl and her friends.  How can you just tease like that man!

I also don't care what anyone else said, or even if it was complete fiction I was mesmerized by both the story and the telling.  I wish someone could just gather up the parts without the peanut gallery as it did get a bit hard to follow exactly with all of the asides and put it all together in a nice little package.

Cheers man, I now have a completely new bar to aspire to buddy.

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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #385 on: December 02, 2017, 03:59:23 AM »
Well Gaspar, it would be interesting for RW to post us an update of how he got on since the visit. Many a relationship goes south after a visit, the good time has been had, and people reassess how they feel.

I know that it can be a bit distracting with the interjections, I often do not intend mine to interfere so much but other members take issue and wind it up and take it of the wrong course.

I do think though that BillyB was right to question the sincerity of this girl/situation. I know RW said he was just there for a good time but he really seemed under the impression this girl was sincere/legit situation. If he had said I know there is a good chance this girl is dodgy and I know I'm likely being taken for a ride but I'm just here for some fun and will just tell you the fun story then all well and good and no need to intervene. As it was although he was just up for a fun time he thought this girl was genuine towards him and was looking for some form off longer term relationship though not marriage.

I personally found BillyB's comments here very much needed, he has a lot of experience at this game and is on the ball. The value of someone contributing from such experience cannot be overlooked. He know the scene, how the girls are and how they work and that agency girls should be viewed with suspicion. He's not a first timer over there like RW and know every guy likes to think himself as different, special to the girl but few are.

Gaspar, many Ukrainian girls are wiling to entertain a foreign guy for a bit of fun and get whatever they think they can get out of it, but end of the day its still a bs situation. You ask in another thread about tours, yes you can do a tour and like RW here enjoy the hell out of it, you may strike lucky but there are a lot of bs situations with them. I think a lot of guys like myself get into bs situations, particularly in Ukraine at the start of looking as its difficult for us to tell a bs situation from a sincere situation where the girl genuinely wants to get settled.

My thoughts are here, the girl may well want to get settled, she has probably realised the money/deal she thought was good at the age of 21 or whatever isn't actually that great in the long term - it has not made her fabulously wealthy. At best  she made a few extra bucks than a regular day job from any guys visiting either through, clothes shopping, language course/restaurant scams, etc. Despite her attractive model looks she probably didn't get loads of guys visit since most are keyboard romeos, she probably sat bored in the agency night after night tapping out the same tired old messages to guys and received a pretty much regular wage for it. Despite the perceptions I think few agency girls really make real serious money out of the more insincere end, they may think they do at the time but in reality it is not, its the big agencies themselves that make the real money and their not limited to a sell by date.
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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #386 on: December 02, 2017, 04:04:57 AM »
OMG....  Trench - why DO you have to spoil folks TRs with your inane ramblings and 'praise' for certain members who's idea of success may not be the norm ?)




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Re: To the Pearl of the Black Sea
« Reply #387 on: December 02, 2017, 08:20:20 AM »
I agree in everything everyone says.  I wasn't saying the interjections weren't helpful or good, it was also just a good story was my point.  It's sort of the fantasy vacation everyone dreams of regardless of the overall outcome.  I mean RW was talking about smuggling this girl in on a boat from Bimini at one point so I also agree there were mixed messages. 

I also know much about these types of industries.  I have dated girls that were strippers/pornstars and the money is very alluring, but as we all know being over 25 years old and on planet earth...if it's too good to be true it probably is. 

I enjoy all of this, it's very fun and exciting for me to learn what's going on with this.  Just the romance of going to a foreign country and doing this type of thing, even if only a temporary reprieve from this rat race seems great. I think that was what I was trying to convey more so than, omg RW, you're my hero for finding a wife.  All of you guys that actually do it and come back to tell about it are my heroes.

This kind of story inspires me to get out from behind this keyboard and make something happen instead of wait to die like everyone I see around me LOL (and yes I'm a bit dramatic).

 

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