Scamming as Family business - Belarus Minsk

[minsky]

Very good comment again. Thank you.

But all of you/me guys dating FSU woman are in a strange position... Those women are in general really poor and really need help.... To separate scammers from good people could get wird.... and you could seem very greedy before understanding the situation..

And about the mom????  ))))

Cheers, Minsky

[minsky]

...This fantastic mom is also reporting another funny statement: The daughter changed the surname from Shevko to something else (not the mother surname anyhow) to get rid of all the legacy linked to the past... Is this something possible to you? I think it is a bullshit...  But in Belarus you never know... And if this is possible then the scammer fighting would be much less effective...

Minsky

[BillyB]

And about the mom????  ))))

Minsky, I speed read through most of what you wrote and didn't focus on what you wrote about the mom. Is it really important? This chapter of your life should be closed and it would be more productive to move in another direction than waste more time with those people.

[minsky]

Hello Billy,

important and general topic about FSU women not about "this" situation.. :

1.  Those women are in general really poor and really need help.... To separate scammers from good people could get wird.... and you could seem very greedy before understanding the situation..

2.  I've not so wide experience in such type of dating but such invasive mom I crossed already. How about your experiences?


cheers, Minsky

[ML]

Those women are in general really poor and really need help....

How did they survive before you came along?
That's how they will survive without you.

[kynrazor]

How did they survive before you came along?
That's how they will survive without you.

 

So Blunt.

On the bright side, at least he didn't have any regrets. Happy for minsky. I'm an optimist at heart

[BillyB]

2.  I've not so wide experience in such type of dating but such invasive mom I crossed already. How about your experiences?

Some moms like to be very involved in their children's lives, some not at all and some in the middle.

1.  Those women are in general really poor and really need help.... To separate scammers from good people could get wird.... and you could seem very greedy before understanding the situation..

You will catch bad women with this attitude. You will lose good women with this attitude.  If you want to give charity to those in need, you would send your money to shithole countries where people are starving and have lots of diseases. Women aren't stupid. [/size]The reason you want to help beautiful women instead of people in Africa is because you have pussy on your mind. If you want to find love, find love but don't try to be a hero.

[minsky]

You will catch bad women with this attitude. You will lose good women with this attitude. 

I fully understand what you mean but I would take your words with a grain of salt otherwise "love" would be two separate guys sharing some space and not some dreams. I think that the nice thing in love is to make dreams real... also the one of your partner. Here is where the problem arise: to distinguish scammers from good people.  I would put LIES and TRUST ahead of money in my classification.. Being a woman I wouldn't love a guy too much "dry"...  IMHO

Minsky

[2tallbill]

Bill, a question for you: would you help your girlfriend if she ask you money? Under which conditions?

Cheers, Minsky

I'm not sure if you are asking me or Billy,

It really depends on the situation would be my answer, however once I make
a decision, I am all in.

I spent 9 years at this before I met my wife, so I had a lot of experience dating
FSUW. When I met my wife Angel Eyes I thought she was the real deal on day
one. I still did my due diligence but once I decided that she was the one, I was
all in. During all of this she never asked me for a single kopeck. 

[2tallbill]

Those women are in general really poor and really need help.
cheers, Minsky

You've gotta get that theory out of your head.

If you want to go save damsels in distress, then go start a charitable
foundation and go help poor women, it's a noble calling but you must
keep the romance out of it. Romance and charity don't mix, you will
attract gold diggers rather than good girls. Desperate girls tend to act
desperately.

If you want to get romantically involved with a woman then you need
to date them like you would a local girl. Get to know her, see if you
have common values, character and goals. While I always recommend
that you stay cautiously optimistic, you must be ready to kick her to the
curb if her character is lacking or you discover that she isn't the future
Mrs. _____________ (your name here)

Udachi!

Bill

[minsky]

Ok so for you a call for money during due diligence means to kick her to the curb...

Minsky

[jone]

No self respecting FSUW is going to ask for money before you are a couple.  They are smart.  They don't want you to spend the money you have knowing that when they marry you they get it all anyway.

[minsky]

I think you convinced me.  The gold diggers are absolutely to avoid because they could very badly surprise you at a certain point. The risk that they are playing a drama is very high. 99% are scammers and very likely you end fu**ed up despite your good intention and empaty.  Even who was a whore in the past belong to that risk category... too much link with money.. In the due diligence should be also this search... If everything is passing but you find out a family behind the woman which is whining for money also it should ring a bell...   Do I pass the exam?  ))

Minsky

[BillyB]

Minsky, how many times in the past you had a relationship with a good woman? It seems like you had a few experiences with women who are engaging in commercial sex. There is a clear difference between those two type of women but your last post implies you finally understand whores are high risk. Most guys understand whores aren't marriage material before they become an adult.

[minsky]

Billy, of course I had good women in my record.. Just the last one was that bad and  I decided to trust her swear that certain past was very far away (and very short)... My big mistake. I did cope at the same time with a scammer, a gold digger and a whore in full capacity... being deceived either by my attitude but also by her family who gave the impression to team up in the "new life" task but was in the end just helping the scamming...

Minsky

[ML]

 Most guys understand whores aren't marriage material before they become an adult.

Isn't there some line of thought that (former) prostitutes make good wives?
Another line of thought that prostitutes have hearts of gold?

Don't know of any serious studies on these topics.

[jone]

Isn't there some line of thought that (former) prostitutes make good wives?
Another line of thought that prostitutes have hearts of gold?

Don't know of any serious studies on these topics.

In my long and studied history of this profession, I can tell you: Once they've emptied your wallet they can afford to be magnanimous.

[BillyB]

Isn't there some line of thought that (former) prostitutes make good wives?

It's not my line of thought. A truck driver who used to work for me had a hooker living with him. He tried to make her pull her weight in the house. She made an attempt to cook eggs and burned them black. He told her to boil the eggs and she failed at that boiling all the water until the pot was dry. She had no other skills to do any work in or out of the home. She ate food and smoke cigarettes he paid for. She didn't even give him much sex. Physiologically, she was mess up in the head and dumber than a box of rocks. She's opened her legs to many to losers, the morally bankrupt, and the worst elements of society. There's a mental toll prostitutes experience. Some guys think they'd make good wives. Prostitutes have the right get married but I don't want to deal with drama and sloppy seconds. Much better options out there.

[SANDRO43]

Another line of thought that prostitutes have hearts of gold?

Many years ago my mother told me of an old hooker she would pass by while walking the dog at night. After some time, they exchanged Buona seras and eventually the occasional chat.

She said that her clients were mostly lonely old men who would pay her just for company, no sex - probably she no longer had much else to offer, and they to ask for (Viagra had not appeared yet then) .

[2tallbill]

Ok so for you a call for money during due diligence means to kick her to the curb...

Minsky

I didn't say that.

I sent Angel Eyes money for all sorts of things. We would sit down and have
conversations about money and things coming up and things that needed to
be paid for etc. I wanted her to see that we were planning our future together.

[minsky]

IMHO (coming unfortunately from a few months experience) is that a whore has the mind completely fu***d up. She lives only the "today" and this I guess is related to how short are her professional relationships... She can lie to you about everything as she lies/lied to the customers.. I don't think you could never make an houswive from a hoe..  I'm under the impression they hate men... they could never respect anyone. A whore can bridge two "today" with two men... It's a rule of life.. And when they are 30/35 y.o. start being alienated .. alchoolic etc..  BTW Bill, it looks like your truck driver engaged Angelina's mom... She is like this! She cannot cook two eggs.. could be that when young she was busy in other activities she then did teach to the daughter...  )).

Cinderella was not a whore...  (due diligence...)

Minsky

[minsky]

Interesting to note an update. Angelina Shevko is now using another name i.e. Angelina Tarasova http://vk.com/id384138325 in between the followers http://vk.com/69kazanov... (a swinger club)  So everything confirmed: Dangerous Scammer and Double Dealer. BTW Tarasova is the mother's family name, probably changed after our postings in November.

M.

[msmob]

Well,

my impression is now that you should let this be a lesson learnt and move on as you MAY be obsessing and even promoting the lass?

Is that what you want ?

[SANDRO43]

Interesting to note an update. Angelina Shevko is now using another name i.e. Angelina Tarasova http://vk.com/id384138325 in between the followers http://vk.com/69kazanov... (a swinger club)  So everything confirmed: Dangerous Scammer and Double Dealer. BTW Tarasova is the mother's family name, probably changed after our postings in November.

Thanks for the tip, I updated her DD profile.

[minsky]

@msmob:

I think it was worth to share because fully on topic.... Scammer, DD, this mother so active and finally the name changed EXACTLY to the one of the mother... It is cool! Don't you?

BTW during last summer to convince about her good faith (school paid, VISA etc...) she did show me deleting her previous VK profile used to keep in touch with those people... It was just a deceiving for me... She even changed the phone number!

Amazing.  An artist. 

M