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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2350 on: August 18, 2018, 07:30:31 PM »


Here's the clip...


Wanna SEE it ! ;)

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2351 on: August 18, 2018, 07:59:32 PM »
And she's imagining the nice life of material prosperity you'll be capable of providing.  So you'll both end disappointed.

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2352 on: August 18, 2018, 09:15:27 PM »
"Wanna SEE it !"

that's what SHE said!
why she even bothered to ask me, I don't know, rhetorical squared or cubed even
DAMN! GIRL FRIEND!

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2353 on: August 19, 2018, 01:21:37 AM »
Honestly, this may sound crazy but the only other thought I have is that I may get more joy from US girls than UK girls. Despite he westernisation/feminisation problem I see it less marked in the US ( depneing on area/state). I think my status as a foreigner/Brit would help me out. I kind of like the soft female American accent also, don't like the fat ones though :D


This one is you Colin



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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2354 on: August 19, 2018, 01:38:28 AM »
Telly-tubbie ,"No-oh" Maxx

Colin came home with a gorgeous American 10 ....



I think 'Trench' should try it and write a trip report  :D

 

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2355 on: August 19, 2018, 02:33:27 AM »
You asked me how I started my letters, and what I can remember,  I started every letter with Hello

How I after that crafted a first response or first contact would vary between the ladies, you see, I respect women, I like women, I like to talk to women, I notice details, I observe how they write to me, I tailored my message to their profile, a detail in their picture, I asked them interesting questions. There is no template for how I approached, and even if it was, that is nothing you could benefit from, you are not me.

I am not saying I got 100% response from those I contacted, depending on the site, maybe 40-60%. But once I had a communication going, very few just stopped talking to me without notice.

and I am not in the business to give you specifics, you haven't taken a single piece of advice so far, so why should I waste the space?

Makes sense I guess if you're not doing the numbers like ML to do as personal message as you can manage. No doubt a fair amount of girls pock up on a spam message even if one or two personal bits have been added. But of course under ML's method thd most interested girls will carry on anyway till the end. Your method you are looking to gain their interest and/or one mah come up that has interest already. So much to think about.
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2356 on: August 19, 2018, 02:39:10 AM »
So much to think about.

Shame you claim to do so much thinking - given the advice you've had and ignored it ..

Until you change your attitude - you're wasting your money ;)

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2357 on: August 19, 2018, 03:14:41 AM »

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2358 on: August 19, 2018, 03:33:34 AM »
my oldest daughter will probably look like your American Woman pic in 5 more years
both are HIGHLY atypical of American women
I think my daughter's reaction to Trench (and I may be THE only person here who likes Trench)
would not be very pleasant for Trench

she and I have MAJOR disagreements over how she treats people she feels "are lesser"
she and her little pack of "mean girls" terrorize her high school
when I was high school age, I used to live in total dread of girls like this
and to find my daughter has become one
has been disappointing to me
but she's only 17 and is the most spoiled, self entitled creature on this earth with an over inflated sense of self worth
I'm sure that will change when she leaves home and has to make her way in the world like everyone else

 

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2359 on: August 19, 2018, 04:12:48 AM »
(and I may be THE only person here who likes Trench)



I might like him too but I am not taking the chance to get to know him better. Maybe I wouldn't.

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2360 on: August 19, 2018, 07:22:14 AM »
I have two teens that I am back to being hyper-protective about, so no house guests
and Trench is probably as horny as a billygoat with TWO peckers
part of my "like" is that I think Trench and I have something in common....
Trench, others have shown me that it's better to be "out of the closet" so to speak
I spent my entire adult life successfully concealing it, and NOT talking about it ever.
now that "I'm out" I find I can't STOP talking about it
it feels good
probably some hysteresivity involved and over time reach a midpoint
you guys have NHS, should be easy to go and seek a diagnosis
and get therapy, this SAVED MY life Trench

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2361 on: August 19, 2018, 07:51:14 AM »
What was the diagnosis Krimster?

Well I used to conceal/deny stuff but over time I saw this too was just blocking me. That progress can be made by admitting what the situation is and  keep trying to work on it.

Some people have known diagnosed mental health issues/problems, for many it's not that severe a bit of occasional anxiety etc. Others remain undiagnosed and even themore not coming aware of their problems properly can be a problem for themselves and society.

A lot of people I think don't have mental health issues but still have traits, attitudes or personalities that may not always be great. A case of unfortunate genetics - someone can either face up to minding their problem areas or they can proceed as before.

There are no doubt those in society who come at the top of the tree with the stuff they inherit and are generally weak in few areas. Yet life being what it is even they can fail and a weaker person succeed.

At this juncture I am again going to throw myself into the FSU dating scene with another attempt now I understand the task at hand better. So I may not be on here as much during this but we'll see.
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2362 on: August 19, 2018, 08:16:22 AM »
Wanna SEE it ! ;)



I couldn't embed it for some reason.
Likely my own incompetence;)




But you'd really have to watch the entire movie to get the full effect of the double meaning in Docs line.

It's a good film,one of my favorites.
And not your typical Hollywood happy endings.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2018, 08:18:44 AM by Jumper »
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2363 on: August 19, 2018, 08:24:36 AM »
At this juncture I am again going to throw myself into the FSU dating scene with another attempt now I understand the task at hand better. So I may not be on here as much during this but we'll see.

Just go to have fun and see a bit more of the world out there without rings n strings in mind and you'll be fine.  Date, date, date.

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2364 on: August 19, 2018, 08:48:41 AM »
"What was the diagnosis Krimster?"

Level 1 Autism Spectrum Disorder, also known as high functioning autism
there are online tests, I would urge you to take one, and if you score positive, and have concerns, you can PM me
I really can't say for certain this applies to you without meeting you in person
but it might, I'd urge you to find out
therapy, BTW, is not sitting on a couch talking about your child hood
but learning appropriate social behavior and controlling outward symptoms
it really changed my life


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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2365 on: August 19, 2018, 09:12:03 AM »
wow jumper!! good find!!!

but this board is more like:


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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2366 on: August 22, 2018, 09:04:39 AM »
ML, what did you do with any girls that didn't answer your questions? as in responded but talked of other stuff. Did you knock them of your list or still send them the follow up second letter regardless?
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2367 on: August 22, 2018, 02:05:14 PM »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2368 on: August 22, 2018, 02:27:39 PM »
Thank you Jumper and Beel  :thumbsup:

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2369 on: August 22, 2018, 03:24:44 PM »
ML, what did you do with any girls that didn't answer your questions? as in responded but talked of other stuff. Did you knock them of your list or still send them the follow up second letter regardless?

My name's not ML - but if I didn't get a response - I made sure they were logging in ... if they were and didn't respond ... I learnt to never wrote again ,,,you cannot woe them all ... 

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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2370 on: August 22, 2018, 09:08:35 PM »
ML, what did you do with any girls that didn't answer your questions? as in responded but talked of other stuff. Did you knock them of your list or still send them the follow up second letter regardless?

I usually did not delete them for failure to answer my questions.
Sometimes they came around to answering later after they ascertained I was real and probably actually coming.
Others that did not answer my questions were deleted later when they made a more serious error about something . . . money requests, wavering about meeting times, etc., etc.
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2371 on: August 22, 2018, 09:10:57 PM »
As we have seen here, ML had not properly outlined or the necessary details at the start of this thread. .

What ?????
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2372 on: August 22, 2018, 09:59:27 PM »
Sometimes they came around to answering later after they ascertained I was real and probably actually coming.


I believe some girls test guys by not answering some questions. There are people, even here, that demand an answer for every question they ask. After the girls figure out the guy isn't angry or the pushy type, they'll answer the question in the next message/letter.
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2373 on: August 23, 2018, 08:00:32 AM »
I usually did not delete them for failure to answer my questions.
Sometimes they came around to answering later after they ascertained I was real and probably actually coming.
Others that did not answer my questions were deleted later when they made a more serious error about something . . . money requests, wavering about meeting times, etc., etc.

Thanks ML that helps to clear it up a bit as I am finding some girls respond with stuff other than what I wrote the questions about. I'm guessing its easier to press on and send these girls the second pre-written letters and press on regardless, they will either follow or drop out. I think to reply to the stuff they wrote on an individual basis would take too much timme unless in the later stages as with a thousand or even a few hundred women it could generate loads of individual letters. I deem from what you said at the beginning of this thread that is generally to be avoided in the early stages as it would become too cumbersome to deal with.
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Re: Trench's Questions and Philosophies
« Reply #2374 on: August 23, 2018, 08:11:31 AM »
I believe some girls test guys by not answering some questions. There are people, even here, that demand an answer for every question they ask. After the girls figure out the guy isn't angry or the pushy type, they'll answer the question in the next message/letter.

I think this is likely true Billy, you are very astute :) Some I wondered if they did it on purpose. I thought perhaps also a few might do it to test if they were getting a pre-written letter with a few personal input since I'm guessing a fair few must know that this goes on. That and some are just sending out a pre-written statement to guys themselves, lol. I know that girls I have messaged before in the past have done that, some very convincingly.

The other factor I am coming across is that some girls don't know English well or aware of online translate programs - I'm guessing the not very geeky ones. So the statement sItend to get from them are short and often unrelated to my message. So I think there are probably a variety of reasons which probably stands to reason as everyone is different and will go about it in a different way from both the guys & the girls side. Just a case of feeling out why its happening with each girl I guess.
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