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Re: Putin taunts US saying their world dominance is ‘OVER’
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2021, 03:37:28 PM »
Whether the Chinese live in squalor or not is irrelevant to global climate change.  They were given a free pass.  I just read that 50% of climate change is caused by 25 cities, and 23 of those cities are in China.  Why should China get a pass on global warming?


China is not "living in squalor".   Further, people living in squalor don't cause a lot of global warming.


The US has reduced greenhouse gas emissions, but it also was disproportionately responsible for them.


As for NATO, what I am saying is that it exists, and is disproportionately funded by the US, for a reason.  The US isn't in the habit of doing things globally out of the goodness of its heart.  No country is.  They all act in their own best interests.  If NATO still exists and is funded the way it is funded, there is a reason for that.


I doubt Biden is any more compromised than was Trump. 
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Re: Putin taunts US saying their world dominance is ‘OVER’
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2021, 11:25:12 AM »
Biden is compromised.

Boe is exactly right, there was Kompromat against Trump. The way Trump handled himself with Putin was embarrassing and un-American. Taking Putin's side over our own intel workers was a disgrace.
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Re: Putin taunts US saying their world dominance is ‘OVER’
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2021, 06:51:17 PM »
Whether the Chinese live in squalor or not is irrelevant to global climate change. I doubt Biden is any more compromised than was Trump.
The way Trump handled himself with Putin was embarrassing and un-American. 
I'm confused. Is this the climate change thread or a revival of the 5 year long Trump doctrine thread?
Reminded that the Biden doctrine thread didn't hardly last 5 months because [why?] it was ....political?
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Re: Putin taunts US saying their world dominance is ‘OVER’
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2021, 09:00:05 AM »
The US has reduced greenhouse gas emissions, but it also was disproportionately responsible for them.

We reduced them by more than any other nation.

My original point is that lefty politicians agree to one sided deals that benefit everyone
more than the USA. You asked to give examples, so I did.

As for NATO, what I am saying is that it exists, and is disproportionately funded by the US, for a reason.  The US isn't in the habit of doing things globally out of the goodness of its heart.  No country is.  They all act in their own best interests.  If NATO still exists and is funded the way it is funded, there is a reason for that.

That's a totally circular argument. The USA deal is beneficial to the USA because that's
why they made the deal.

I said that Lefty's make deals that benefit others more than the USA or something to that
effect. You asked me to name some so I did. You agree that the USA funds NATO in a one
sided way.


I doubt Biden is any more compromised than was Trump.

My point is about Putin having leverage over Biden because of his corruption with
Russians. Trump was investigated and nothing was found. Biden is more compromised.
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Re: Putin taunts US saying their world dominance is ‘OVER’
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2021, 10:15:27 AM »
My point is about Putin having leverage over Biden because of his corruption with
Russians. Trump was investigated and nothing was found. Biden is more compromised.

Biden is not compromised.

Meanwhile -

The supposed leak obtained by The Guardian reportedly claims that President Vladimir Putin personally approved a nefarious plan to throw Russia’s support behind Trump’s 2016 campaign. The document states that Putin, his spy chiefs, and top ministers agreed that a victory for a “mentally unstable” Trump would permanently weaken the United States.

The document also reportedly states that the Kremlin has so-called kompromat—or damaging intelligence—on Trump. It cryptically refers to “certain events” that happened during “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory.” The purported leak doesn’t explain what those events involved—only referring to an appendix that wasn’t attached the obtained document.


http://www.yahoo.com/news/kremlin-leak-appears-confirm-existence-103305577.html

It's not the best evidence but something to consider.

Which agency investigated Trump? Same question for Biden.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2021, 10:22:08 AM by mhr7 »
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Re: Putin taunts US saying their world dominance is ‘OVER’
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2021, 11:39:04 AM »
I'm confused. Is this the climate change thread or a revival of the 5 year long Trump doctrine thread?
Reminded that the Biden doctrine thread didn't hardly last 5 months because [why?] it was ....political?


I just answer what's posted.  But my comment wasn't really about Biden, per se.
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Re: Putin taunts US saying their world dominance is ‘OVER’
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2021, 11:46:10 AM »
We reduced them by more than any other nation.

My original point is that lefty politicians agree to one sided deals that benefit everyone more than the USA. You asked to give examples, so I did.

The US's Kyoto commitments are not greater than those of other nations.  The EU for example, has a commitment to reduce carbon by 40%, as opposed to 26-28% for the US.

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That's a totally circular argument. The USA deal is beneficial to the USA because that's why they made the deal.

I said that Lefty's make deals that benefit others more than the USA or something to that effect. You asked me to name some so I did. You agree that the USA funds NATO in a one sided way.

But the US doesn't make deals that benefit others more than the US.  NATO was established primarily to benefit the US, and did so for most of its history.

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My point is about Putin having leverage over Biden because of his corruption with Russians. Trump was investigated and nothing was found. Biden is more compromised.

There's an article in The Guardian today about a leak of Russian documents which suggest the Russians wanted to aid Trump in his election bid, and had kompromat on him.  (ETA - just read mhr7's post.  Here's a link to The Guardian article - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house). 

Trump was doing business in the USSR.  He has shady dealings with dozens of Russian oligarchs.  There is absolutely no way he is not compromised, at the very least, in money laundering via sales of real estate.  No Westerner who is clean did deals in the USSR did so with clean hands.  Not one.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2021, 11:47:46 AM by Boethius »
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