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Kiev Agencies for Visa
gaspar227:
I read some stuff about agencies for visas in the forums. The threads were old so it said make a new one. Seems to me in every country -- including the USA -- you can pay to get what you are looking for.
Like if you want a passport in the USA, you can pay someone to get it for you in 24 hours for $500 bucks. There's ways to do it. Is this likely just a scam or is this worth pursuing.
It also seems like you can pay to NOT get what you are looking for as well. I'm looking here?
http://prosto-visa.com.ua/en/content/how-get-visa-usa-b1-b2-ukraine#
Anyone know what these guys are talking about with a 'guaranteed' visa? Regardless I'd be out the $250 visa fee, but it seems like a no-brainer to pay $500 extra for a guarantee.
I gotta think ... and I'm pretty much a pessimist when it comes to integrity most municipal employees (myself included) that someone in there has a way to make sure that the 'right' interviewer is available for the 'right' person. $500 is like a month's wages so even split that's a pretty good haul for these guys if they can pull it off.
Obviously a tourist visa for a visiting woman is the best idea for me. This is not her idea, she knows (supposedly) little to nothing about this sort of thing. She is in Odessa, these guys I found on the internet are in Kiev, we're thinking of running up to Kiev anyway because 9 days in the cold in Odessa may get stale and I want to check it out...yada yada. So it's not like she's saying, i have my visa all i need is $250 and we're good. She wants me to come and help her. I'm doing the footwork here, the USA bullshit laws are not exactly widely known.
Long story short, if she could get a travel visa and come back with me or even a few weeks later, that would be cool and a lot less stressful than the the k1 thing. I'm not sure I could pull off the change of status thing if we wanted, but again worth a shot. worst case, we get the K1 rolling and she goes back, we get approved, but at least I get to spend some quality time with her in her new environment.
Obvi if she goes to the consulate she'd keep me on the DL. I mean I just wonder if these guys would be able to pull it off. If this was Mexico, for instance, I know 90% that this would happen if I gave the right guy $500 bucks and just did what they told me to.
She's got some of the stuff covered for the tourist, she has her own money she has family here in USA (plus and minus i know) she has family there. She could even say she's married if she wanted -- civil marriage or something she said ? idk if that's a thing-- to try and say she's coming back -- but I gotta figure if she has the bank account, and throws down whatever the agency tells her to put for the rest of the documentation, that she's got as good a shot as anyone who's in their late 20s and single without kids in Ukraine. (from the forums this means not a very good shot).
But if they will just float the money back if it doesn't work -- which means they gotta be pretty sure it will or it's a total scam -- then no harm no foul. I mean i understand that it's highly unlikely I get that money back, i'm not stupid, but i also think they will make it happen and not just rip me 100%. Way I look at it, $500 is a pretty good gamble...
So I'm asking you guys how crazy and stupid this idea is. If it's absurd, then yeah $500 buys a helluva weekend in Kiev. Maybe someone knows Ukraine yelp LOL? Some kind of sanity check here. I mean it's too good to be true right?
alex330:
No idea on this agency, but there are companies that facilitate tourist VISA's in Ukraine. Many women use them to come visit guys here. We met a woman this December that did just that.
Nothing is guaranteed. If you read carefully they guarantee to help you navigate the process, not secure a VISA.
I have repeatedly said that a VISA to the US or Europe is not as hard as many make it out to be these days. Most of the guys here were looking ten years ago. Things have changed quite a bit in many regards.
If she comes to the US as a tourist it is usually best for her to overstay her VISA and get married. Start the paperwork and get locked down in the US for several years. If she leaves and then you file a K1 it may be denied. This will depend on the State you live in as well though....
gaspar227:
I'm curious about what you say about overstaying and locking down. Is there more information about this somewhere? I am pretty newbie about all of this.
alex330:
--- Quote from: gaspar227 on January 01, 2018, 11:37:10 PM ---I'm curious about what you say about overstaying and locking down. Is there more information about this somewhere? I am pretty newbie about all of this.
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It's against the law, but what many women/couples do these days. We know quite a few that have done this. The woman arrives on a tourist VISA and does not leave. She overstays her VISA illegally and then looks for a man she likes or has one here already. Since she has overstayed her VISA she cannot leave the country for about 2 years. If she did, they would deny her re-entry. But once married and she gets her green card it is no longer an issue.
This may be changing with the current administration and certain States are more lenient than others with illegals and overstays.
msmob:
--- Quote from: alex330 on January 01, 2018, 10:43:17 PM ---
I have repeatedly said that a VISA to the US or Europe is not as hard as many make it out to be these days.
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The UK IS in Europe and your statement is certainly NOT based on fact - given changes ( harder) to the VISA requirements for tourist and spousal visas
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