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Title: A travel companion
Post by: GatoMessi on June 19, 2019, 05:23:59 AM
I do not know where to start in this forum.   First, let me introduce myself.   I am 50 years old from United Kingdom.  Never married, do not have any children and live alone.  I am not Brad Pitt nor Radek Stepanek :-D

Anyway, I am not looking for a serious relationships, certainly not with any FSU women, but also am not looking for any sexual relationships.  I just want to have a travel companion to have a company.   I have joined a site called "Travel Girls" where you can find a travel companion.  Unfortunately, about 80% of the women are from FSU mostly from Ukraine or Russia.  The rest of the women are made up of Africans, Europeans and South Americans.   There are, of course, potential scammers in the site, like everywhere  (probably also male scammers as well).   I can weed off any scammers easily to focus on genuine women.

To get to the point of this topic, to focus on these 80% women  (because this site is all about Russian women).    Most of these FSU women want to have luxury travel rather than having free vacation.  One Russian woman was really rude to me  After exchanging 2 messages, she demanded me to offer her business class flight and 5 star hotels to go to Dominican Republic. Is that normal from any FSU women?     When I replied to her that I would be happy to offer a travel companion to fly economically and 3-4 star hotels, she called me many bad names  "so ugly, little and poor dick"  !!!

Any genuine women will be happy for a free holiday to any tropic islands, never mind about business class flight and 5 star hotels !    I've never flew in business or first class flights nor stay at any 5 star hotels in my life, let alone offering her after knowing 2 messages!     

Many of other women want to go on holiday "next week" when I haven't had a plan yet, and I don't even know them at all.  Again, is this a normal behaviour from any FSU women? 

One woman asked when will I have a vacation.  I told her that I am having a short break this August and a big vacation in October, she replied that she will speak to me when the time comes  (eg in August). Is this a normal behaviour from any FSU ladies not interested in knowing me a bit beforehand?




Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: msmob on June 19, 2019, 05:30:40 AM
It's 'normal behavoiour' for a woman wanting to fleece you and only interested when you have a plan - don't do it

I have a friend - now in his 70's who was single and not in a relationship ..

He went Flotilla sailing  - you have no idea who the crew members will be ( or sexual mix) and he married the widow he met on that trip a year later ..

They have been together 31 years

He's English, she's Scottish and they retired to France

Good luck
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 19, 2019, 06:21:16 AM
I do not know where to start in this forum.   First, let me introduce myself.   I am 50 years old from United Kingdom.  Never married, do not have any children and live alone.  I am not Brad Pitt nor Radek Stepanek :-D

Anyway, I am not looking for a serious relationships, certainly not with any FSU women, but also am not looking for any sexual relationships.  I just want to have a travel companion to have a company.   I have joined a site called "Travel Girls" where you can find a travel companion.  Unfortunately, about 80% of the women are from FSU mostly from Ukraine or Russia.  The rest of the women are made up of Africans, Europeans and South Americans.   There are, of course, potential scammers in the site, like everywhere  (probably also male scammers as well).   I can weed off any scammers easily to focus on genuine women.

To get to the point of this topic, to focus on these 80% women  (because this site is all about Russian women).    Most of these FSU women want to have luxury travel rather than having free vacation.  One Russian woman was really rude to me  After exchanging 2 messages, she demanded me to offer her business class flight and 5 star hotels to go to Dominican Republic. Is that normal from any FSU women?     When I replied to her that I would be happy to offer a travel companion to fly economically and 3-4 star hotels, she called me many bad names  "so ugly, little and poor dick"  !!!

Any genuine women will be happy for a free holiday to any tropic islands, never mind about business class flight and 5 star hotels !    I've never flew in business or first class flights nor stay at any 5 star hotels in my life, let alone offering her after knowing 2 messages!     

Many of other women want to go on holiday "next week" when I haven't had a plan yet, and I don't even know them at all.  Again, is this a normal behaviour from any FSU women? 

One woman asked when will I have a vacation.  I told her that I am having a short break this August and a big vacation in October, she replied that she will speak to me when the time comes  (eg in August). Is this a normal behaviour from any FSU ladies not interested in knowing me a bit beforehand?

:welcome: Messi, that's very bad behaviour from a FSU, DON'T take any of that or they will run all over you, they will have no respect for you when you hook up and will treat you worse and worse, so much so that you will probably wish you went wherever as a single guy.

Like you I am a single guy from the UK, no children and live alone but in my early forties. I found little joy out of dating or attempting to date in the UK through online dating sites like Match, speed dating, etc.

I first started of dating FSW on Elena's Models, some scammers on there as they use feeder agencies but on the whole better than the site you have been on. A lot of the more genuine FSW are far more reasonable and will be happy if you paid for train travel, which is fairly cheap in Ukraine, taxi's (cheap in Ukraine through Uber, Uklon, etc) and everday dating cost of standard restaurants, entry into tourist sites, etc. This is largely because many Ukrainian & Russain women get low pay unless they are in particualar professional jobs in finance, etc, as they can earn a lot less then most men out there and of course its the way of dating out there that the man pays for the date to restaurants, but not for clothes shopping, etc.

Anyway, the girl I met of Elena's models was a tall, blond in her late twenties, I met her in Kiev (I paid for her train in and a separte hotel room at the same hotel as me) and she showed me around the city for the week, doing some of the stuff she like and some of the stuff I liked in terms of attractions to visit. They were all cheap attrations, not deliberately chosen so but because they were largely your everday tourist attractions, visiting the famous Cathedrals, Theatre, Orchestra, Opera (not really my thing but Kiev is famous for it) Jazz Club, Open Air Museum, etc, etc. She was fairly attractive looking and very hospitable and nice to be with, she tranlated a lot of what was going on in the Opera, etc and basically tourguided me around the city. When I met her in the mornings she was always cherpy and smily and through most of each day also. There was however no chemistry there, just a liking of each other I think, she wanted to meet up for a second holiday in Turkey (at my expense of course as she earned too little) I did not see the point as I wanted a partner, for you however such a girl I think would be ideal.

I think the best way forward on this is to just get on more reputable FSU dating sites, do yourself a nice profile, smiling, smart looking with a small write up and choose from the girls on there. It may take you a good few weeks or months for a good one to come up that you have some natural traction with in terms of wanting to message each other forward and back but you'll probably find someone. I wouldn't put that you just want a travel companion just leave it open, say you wnat someone to be with, hobbies, etc, etc. On meeting a lot of the time there isn't natural chemistry for most people since it is such a random thing. In which case a lot of the girls will happily show you around the city as a friend and a lot will be open to further holidays abroad after that as they are generally more open and friendly to guys in general than Western Women and they often lack the means to do so themself plus they are also single, presumably. A lot of FSW will see it as their responsibility to show you around and make sure you are ok and not leave you in a strange city by yourself whatever else they may be looking for. Of course you do occasionally get girls that are no show, or depart shortly after meeting but most girls that you have spent a few weeks messaging, skype and any advance basic costs (never send them money for this btw always pay for train tickets etc over the internet which you can do for Ukraine, etc and email them to her) will show up and spend time with you. I would however if I was you keep it down to time spent with girl to no more than a few days, say four days for the first time you see her, if the two of you don't get on you don't want to feel compelled to being stuck with each other a week or more.

That I think should be the best way to fullfill what you want. No doubt many FSW approach it as they just looking for a travel companion and 'who knows they 'might' end up in a relationship (but know its not really why they are doing it they just really want a travel companion)' so you might as well do the same. 'Fdating' is also a good, and free! online dating site to use to find such a woman.     
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: msmob on June 19, 2019, 06:54:08 AM
Public Health Warning

Ignore any 'advice' from Trench ..   

1/ He's a failure with dating in the UK and the former Soviet Union - blaming the fairer sex

2/ Doesn't understand women - in general

3/ He might as well have used travel companion sites - at least he wouldn't be expecting the lass to put out
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on June 19, 2019, 07:09:16 AM
your fellow countryman “Charley Darwin” said it best and succinctly
“organisms tend to speciate”

your travel companion agency is a species of escort agency
and the girls are a type of escort...

you need to frame it that way, that the agency is the girl’s pimp
and that it’s NOT facebook....

if you engage with them
you will be dealing with sharks every step of the way
who KNOW EXACTLY what they are doing
while you will have NO CLUE, until it’s too late

so what’s a bruv in the UK to do?

first, I’d make a conscious decision about what it is you’re looking for...
since, I don’t know that, let me tell you of JUST ONE of many possibilities for you in Ukraine

single mom in her 20s
if you can handle the stress of raising children, this might be an option for you
I have MANY, MANY Russian and Ukrainian contacts on VK who are single mothers in their 20s, ALL of these women would jump on a 50 years old guy in the UK if he was an upper middle class professional, owned his own home, etc, and ESPECIALLY if he didn’t have his own children. 

me bruv, you COULD get a super model looking wife, IF YOU WANTED TO, as long as you are able to handle the task of helping her to raise her child

and this is just ONE of MANY options you have in Ukraine

the journey of 1,000 miles begins
with the first small step

learn to speak some Russian

part dva

please understand that every agency is just a variation of a device to separate you from some of your money, this is its first principle of operation...

it’s second principle is to convince you that it is giving you something for your money

and it’s third principle is that once it starts getting money from you you maximize the amount it can get

these are the basic rules of the “machine”

instead...
if you learned Russian, made a web site about your favorite hobby in Russian\English complete with glossy photos of your handsome self and promoted this on VK, you’d have a thousand female contacts after a year....

sort the 1000 contacts by whatever index you want...
then choose the top ones to visit

with this approach:

you know they’re real, you chat with them on Viber
you only pursue the ones you match with
this could be appearance, intelligence, ability to get along, etc
women that you make some kind of connection with
who you like, and you feel like they like you
and they have nothing at all to gain materially from the contact

because it takes a real active effort to achieve this
it means hardly anyone will ever do this...

because I can tell you
if I were single right now
one the top 10 women on my VK\Viber contacts would be my girlfriend
most are in their 20s, two are early 30s
all single, most never married, University educated, 2 are engineers
on a scale of 1 to 10?
solid 9s....
word....





Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 19, 2019, 09:42:50 AM
Public Health Warning

Ignore any 'advice' from Trench ..   

1/ He's a failure with dating in the UK and the former Soviet Union - blaming the fairer sex

2/ Doesn't understand women - in general

3/ He might as well have used travel companion sites - at least he wouldn't be expecting the lass to put out

Mobe, must you take every post I make as an opportunity to knock me?

There is nothing wrong in what I told Messi, it was just my experiences I was imparting that seemed relevant to his situation.

Messi is not asking about dating but instead about traveling companions, there is an articulate difference here Mobe that you seem to have missed. Hence the experience of the first girl I met in Ukraine fits very much into the travelling companion category and that is what Messi is after. She would have been just the type of girl (travelling companion) he is looking for I think.

Some people can't be had with relationships with all the ins & outs, they just want to go off and enjoy their time with someone, share the experience and make friends they can keep in contact with.

As I have said in here before, in an everyday looking guy who is not great socially. I'm about 6ft tall with a full head of hair that is not greying.

I don't know how Messi compares, the description the unpleasant women have him was not good. How much truth there is in that only Messi knows. End of the day none of us get a choice is the genes/looks etc that are bestowed on us we just got to go with stuff we largely can't change.

If Messi is towards the description one of the girls gave, short and not necessarily an average or better on looks then women can have a issue with such things, some more than others. He may have other qualities but may feel that if he may struggle to find a woman genuinely attracted to him then a traveling companion may be a much more comfortable choice, nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Gator on June 19, 2019, 10:10:17 AM
GatoMessi,

For several years I traveled with RW  to places all over the globe.  It was a great time.  So I speak from experience. 

First, you are barking up the wrong tree.  You are pursuing prostitutes/escorts who are in this solely for the money. They are not interested in the social companionship so they would make a lousy travel companion.   Why would you want to travel with such a woman?  Especially one who expect luxury when you are more interested in adventure than luxury. 

Traveling is intimate, and choosing a woman without first meeting her could result in the "vacation from hell."

Instead, it would be easy to find a delightful RW who would go along for the travel experience, social companionship, and the possibility of a long term relationship.   I did this several times.  I paid for everything, even buying a gift or two.  No RW asked for first class and all were happy with less than luxury accommodations.  They do demand flush toilets, clean sheets, and safe food.   

To find a companion, open your mind to exploring the possibilities that the woman may be a fine person , she may be compatible with you, she maybe is a lot of fun, and you are capable of an emotional relationship

So go to different websites for meeting RW.  First seek a woman with good qualities without mentioning travel.   You should first travel to the FSU to meet several women, choosing one to travel with.  This is a great travel adventure in itself. 

It is soooooooo easy to do. 
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Boethius on June 19, 2019, 11:55:23 AM
Mobe, must you take every post I make as an opportunity to knock me?

There is nothing wrong in what I told Messi, it was just my experiences I was imparting that seemed relevant to his situation.


No, there was something wrong.  The OP specifically stated he was not looking for a romantic relationship.  So your post was unhelpful.


This post was composed without the aid of google.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 19, 2019, 12:38:59 PM

No, there was something wrong.  The OP specifically stated he was not looking for a romantic relationship.  So your post was unhelpful.


This post was composed without the aid of google.

He's got to be reasonable, yes as I said above he was after a travelling companion and not dating. For sure most of the girls on FSU sites are there for romance, whether they get it though is a different matter. Some will be there on the same or similar grounds to Messi. Some FSU Dating sites let you choose options on if you are just looking for friendship and let you filter search for that but only a few of the girls will be there for that. Plus the site that used to be good for that has gone downhill a lot over the past year so can't recommend it.

All in all though I think it's Messi's best bet. He will get girls up that nicer than the girls he was contacting and most FSW won't mind if there turns out to be no  romance as most are up for travelling.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: GQBlues on June 19, 2019, 12:54:14 PM
I do not know where to start in this forum.   First, let me introduce myself.   I am 50 years old from United Kingdom.  Never married, do not have any children and live alone.  I am not Brad Pitt nor Radek Stepanek :-D

Anyway, I am not looking for a serious relationships, certainly not with any FSU women, but also am not looking for any sexual relationships.  I just want to have a travel companion to have a company.   I have joined a site called "Travel Girls" where you can find a travel companion.  Unfortunately, about 80% of the women are from FSU mostly from Ukraine or Russia.  The rest of the women are made up of Africans, Europeans and South Americans.   There are, of course, potential scammers in the site, like everywhere  (probably also male scammers as well).   I can weed off any scammers easily to focus on genuine women....


Maybe try a site they call Meetup.com. They even have local groups close to you.  http://www.meetup.com/cities/gb/ (http://www.meetup.com/cities/gb/)

Quote
To get to the point of this topic, to focus on these 80% women  (because this site is all about Russian women).    Most of these FSU women want to have luxury travel rather than having free vacation.  One Russian woman was really rude to me  After exchanging 2 messages, she demanded me to offer her business class flight and 5 star hotels to go to Dominican Republic. Is that normal from any FSU women?     When I replied to her that I would be happy to offer a travel companion to fly economically and 3-4 star hotels, she called me many bad names  "so ugly, little and poor dick"  !!!

Any genuine women will be happy for a free holiday to any tropic islands, never mind about business class flight and 5 star hotels !    I've never flew in business or first class flights nor stay at any 5 star hotels in my life, let alone offering her after knowing 2 messages!     

Many of other women want to go on holiday "next week" when I haven't had a plan yet, and I don't even know them at all.  Again, is this a normal behaviour from any FSU women? 

One woman asked when will I have a vacation.  I told her that I am having a short break this August and a big vacation in October, she replied that she will speak to me when the time comes  (eg in August). Is this a normal behaviour from any FSU ladies not interested in knowing me a bit beforehand?


As for the 'point' of your topic, who cares what the answer to your questions are if you found most of what you experienced so far to be unfavorable. Frankly, I find it even more odd that anyone is willing to pick up travelling expenses for a random person he/she met in the internet. No friends/family?
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on June 19, 2019, 03:34:21 PM
seriously you guys...

1. learn Russian...
2. learn Russian social media
3. learn how to promote your “Russian" web site on Russian social media
4. participate in group chats on Russian social media

and at the end of the year, there will be OVER 1,000 women in your contacts
everyone will also be on viber so you can video chat with them

guys in the UK are luckier with closer time zones than the USA
shorter distance to travel you guys can take long weekends with only 5 hours to Kyiv

natural advantage for y'all
compared to rich Yankees who live 8 time zones to your West

i'd use that advantage if I were you
and make a social media/video chat connection to in person meeting in her country....
choose from the top 10 in your contacts

if you have a lot of pieces of paper with portraits of QE and the numbers 50 on it
and she has her passport, take her to some place like Paris or Amsterdam
I was in Amsterdam last summer, and heard Russian spoken everywhere...








Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 19, 2019, 03:39:05 PM
seriously you guys...

1. learn Russian...
2. learn Russian social media
3. learn how to promote your “Russian" web site on Russian social media.
4.participate in group chats on Russian social media

and at the end of the year, there will be OVER 1,000 women in your contacts
alost everyone will also be on viber so you can video chat with them

guys in the UK are luckier with closer time zones than the USA
shorter distance to travel you guys can take long weekends with only 5 hours to Kyiv

What sort of 'Russian' website?
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on June 19, 2019, 03:58:07 PM
I'd recommend doing a general interest web site, the more popular and general the better
and add lots of professionally produced images of yourself...

for instance you could have a web site about collecting old Soviet and Russian stereophonic LP records
heavily illustrated, well written
in Russian and English
then you start your own fan group on VK and you put a VK "Like widget" on your web site...
they click on it and it goes to your fan page
people share their likes with all the people in their network
once you get up to a certain number of fans
you can exchange your fan list with another fan group for theirs
and double your fans...
you can also create fake fan pages that link to yours that "bumps" its visibility
and game the system to get a high position on VK.com search results

bottom line, it's possible to get a total of 50,000 or more followers on VK
and maybe 10% that number will be total eye candy whose face lights up whenever you video chat with her on viber
you should have at least a thousand active contacts, single women, age 18-40, living somewhere in Russia or Ukraine
after one year of working this system...

if you're single and you have a high ranked fan group, women will send you naked selfies ALL THE FREAKIN' TIME!
if you don't want that, put pictures of your wife and kids on your web site - that reduces it by 90%






Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 19, 2019, 06:13:46 PM
I'd recommend doing a general interest web site, the more popular and general the better
and add lots of professionally produced images of yourself...

for instance you could have a web site about collecting old Soviet and Russian stereophonic LP records
heavily illustrated, well written
in Russian and English
then you start your own fan group on VK and you put a VK "Like widget" on your web site...
they click on it and it goes to your fan page
people share their likes with all the people in their network
once you get up to a certain number of fans
you can exchange your fan list with another fan group for theirs
and double your fans...
you can also create fake fan pages that link to yours that "bumps" its visibility
and game the system to get a high position on VK.com search results

bottom line, it's possible to get a total of 50,000 or more followers on VK
and maybe 10% that number will be total eye candy whose face lights up whenever you video chat with her on viber
you should have at least a thousand active contacts, single women, age 18-40, living somewhere in Russia or Ukraine
after one year of working this system...

if you're single and you have a high ranked fan group, women will send you naked selfies ALL THE FREAKIN' TIME!
if you don't want that, put pictures of your wife and kids on your web site - that reduces it by 90%

That's great Krim. So I'm guessing that Russians would have to find your website first before hitting the VK fan page button and going through to that. Hence why you say to start a website about Russian stuff, but would it still not be hard to find, I mean there are loads of websites out there?
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on June 19, 2019, 06:28:15 PM
one of my web sites, gets over 2,000 hits/day in Russia/Ukraine
don't expect me to hand out my secret sauce though...
google the topic of web site promotion on vk.com to learn more...
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 06, 2019, 10:21:19 AM


To get to the point of this topic, to focus on these 80% women  (because this site is all about Russian women).    Most of these FSU women want to have luxury travel rather than having free vacation.  One Russian woman was really rude to me  After exchanging 2 messages, she demanded me to offer her business class flight and 5 star hotels to go to Dominican Republic. Is that normal from any FSU women?     When I replied to her that I would be happy to offer a travel companion to fly economically and 3-4 star hotels, she called me many bad names  "so ugly, little and poor dick"  !!!

Its not normal if she say so, but at the same time why she should agree to stay with unfamilia man in not convenient circumstance and hotel. Was you know her well?

I think most man want to be strangers for women but want she trate him as husband. Be tolerate to his "we havent money for this hotel", be close to him and show how she like him and the "chemistry" all the time. :D
And I really cant understand what for this trip? Is it serching a wife or just social companion? If social companion why not to find a man-friend who would tolerate to cheap hotel and pay for himself?

 
Many of other women want to go on holiday "next week" when I haven't had a plan yet, and I don't even know them at all.  Again, is this a normal behaviour from any FSU women? 

They just trying to evoid endless panpal messaging maybe. A lot of man messaging through years with nothing visit.
One woman asked when will I have a vacation.  I told her that I am having a short break this August and a big vacation in October, she replied that she will speak to me when the time comes  (eg in August). Is this a normal behaviour from any FSU ladies not interested in knowing me a bit beforehand?

Its I mentioned above.
And there are prostitutes also and ecscorts and so on categoree of women.
First of all better to find wife (not a photomodel) and travel with her as you both would convenient. Man usially like to choose photomodel ("the best choice") and then complain she is reject his 3* hotel and do not want devide his "simple life".
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: ML on July 06, 2019, 10:37:47 AM
Quote from: GatoMessi on June 19, 2019, 08:23:59 AM
After exchanging 2 messages, she demanded me to offer her business class flight and 5 star hotels to go to Dominican Republic.


And I really cant understand what for this trip? If social companion why not to find a man-friend who would tolerate to cheap hotel and pay for himself?


Good example of a totally dishonest Russian person.

The man talked about woman wanting Business Class flights and 5 Star Hotels.

So an honest response would refer to the man wanting to provide Economy flights and 4 Star Hotel.

But instead, the dishonest person completely rearranges to state that the man wishes the woman to pay for her own flight and he would provide cheap hotel.

Disgusting people.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Gator on July 06, 2019, 10:45:27 AM

And I really cant understand what for this trip? Is it serching a wife or just social companion? If social companion why not to find a man-friend who would tolerate to cheap hotel and pay for himself?


You touch the heart of the matter.     

A man friend would not only pay for his own expenses (hotel, flight),  he is more likely to be a compatible travel partner because of already having known each other.  So maybe Gato seeks more than the fun of travel. 
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Gator on July 06, 2019, 10:45:53 AM
nano, when reading ML's posts, keep in mind  he considers all Russians to be as bad as Putin. 
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2019, 10:56:04 AM
if you live outside the law
you HAVE to be HONEST...

quid pro quo is the way to go!!
quo bono?
everyone!

it ain’t
 a zero-sum game
if you’re each up at least a point or two
and that’s MY point

just like in nature
there are MANY stable atomic configurations of molecules
there are also many stable configurations of human relationships

bottom line
you’ll each gain MORE by cooperation than by cheating...
once you understand this
then you need to discuss the "limits and rights" of your partnership
and its goals

a successful wealthy western man, especially if he is nice looking (by Russian standards)
can EASILY find a Russian/Ukrainian partner of whatever kind he wishes...
you are like a rare-earth magnet
and every Russian/Ukrainian woman of child bearing age
a hunk of iron
ya feel me, bros?

BUT...
if you're a "poser" and not an actual successful wealthy guy
then you're just gonna be disappointed, because she will be as well...
ya feel me, bros?




Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: ML on July 06, 2019, 11:09:27 AM
nano, when reading ML's posts, keep in mind  he considers all Russians to be as bad as Putin.

No; only those who demonstrate that they are so.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 06, 2019, 11:14:16 AM

The man talked about woman wanting Business Class flights and 5 Star Hotels.

So an honest response would refer to the man wanting to provide Economy flights and 4 Star Hotel.
She do not know him and here a lot of quite pretensiouse women who like luxority life and ask it from men. I suppose GatoMessi was not shy and ask the most fashion and buiterful women to accompany his "simple life" and modest hotel.
Disgusting people.
Its just a women they like luxority life and strong man. :clapping:

and why should be she tolerate to his "chosing the best choice" and spend time "to know him well" while he would just spend her time for endless communicating and at the end choose another women? The GatoMessi  pursue his own interests do not want to see another part of medal :deadhorse:
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2019, 11:21:37 AM
so Nano...

please allow me to introduce myself...
I am called Krimster
as you may remember from your childhood
I am the name Russian mothers whisper to their children at night
to prod them into bed
"if you're not hirroshe, krimster will get you"
please allow me to express my delight at making your acquaintance
kak de la?

what kind of education do you have?
describe something that's unique about you...
what do you for fun in Ekateringburg?
especially in the winter?   (I used to go sledding in Kyiv in the winter!)






Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: ML on July 06, 2019, 11:41:25 AM
Nano, your response to me was just like your response to GatoMessi.

i.e. You did not address the points made, and your answer deliberately and dishonestly changed the words and meanings of the other posters.

Typical of a dishonest Russian.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 06, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
so Nano...

please allow me to introduce myself...
I am called Krimster
as you may remember from your childhood
I am the name Russian mothers whisper to their children at night
to prod them into bed
"if you're not hirroshe, krimster will get you"
please allow me to express my delight at making your acquaintance
kak de la?

what kind of education do you have?
describe something that's unique about you...
what do you for fun in Ekateringburg?
especially in the winter?   (I used to go sledding in Kyiv in the winter!)
education is very poor as you notice :)  In winter here a lot of entertaiment but mostly I do not use it. As need to work or just havent time or mood. Or haven't good accompany. :) And I do not speak with Krimsters especially 2 with such introducings 8) too scaring :)
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 06, 2019, 11:48:13 AM
Nano, your response to me was just like your response to GatoMessi.

i.e. You did not address the points made, and your answer deliberately and dishonestly changed the words and meanings of the other posters.

Typical of a dishonest Russian.
Where is I "did not address the points made, and your answer deliberately and dishonestly changed the words and meanings of the other posters"????? :wallbash:
If so better to write me in russian. What exactly was dishonest?

ML you are merrid man and not in search so you quite far away from searching problems so all peoples in other side appearing for you dishinest and not trustful.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2019, 12:47:31 PM
"And I do not speak with Krimsters especially 2 with such introducings 8) too scaring :)"

Молодец!
but do not worry..
big bad krimster will not eat little Nano...
I swear to Bog
you are safe in my company...

so what if I told you, that I knew how you could find an American husband
but you would have to actively go out and hunt this man
the way Lyudmila Pavlichenko hunted German soldiers

would you want to meet wealthy successful American men with my help?
and possibly end up living in California
or do you prefer "Your-cat-earring-berg?"

kak skazhee?
or are you too scared of me?







Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 06, 2019, 01:28:50 PM
krimster2 I think you was offended in life with someone, suppose a women, so you have strange communicative manner. I dont know Ludmila Pavluchenko and how she "hunted "poor" German soldiers" ::) and I think its  :offtopic:
I just want find, and to live and end up with my family and be happy :)
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2019, 01:42:24 PM
no...
all who have offended me, no longer live
so I have no need to collect a debt from them
they have already paid in full

yes, I am as you say, strange...
I also have strange abilities and talents and knowledge...
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 06, 2019, 01:57:33 PM
krimster2 seems you widowed but is not in jail and quite clever to hide a evidences according to you possibility to have "strange abilities and talents and knowledge".

I like more positive mood and kind heart :) And hope avoid any owful detective as krimster2  :popcorn:
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Gator on July 06, 2019, 02:11:50 PM


I like more positive mood and kind heart :) And hope avoid any owful detective as krimster2  :popcorn:

You will learn Krimster has multiple personalities.  Not to the degree to be have a dissociative identity disorder, a term in psychiatry. 

Sometimes he is a comic, at other times an alarmist.  He fancies himself as a womanizer. At other times a political scientist.  He lived and worked in Ukraine years ago.   If he lived among the Native Americans (otherwise known as indians as in cowboys and indians), he would have the name Walking Eagle, meaning a large bird who is so full of kakashka that he can not fly. 
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2019, 02:33:19 PM
no...
when I was a small boy in the Indian village
I asked the village wise man, "how do parents pick their children's names?"
he told me...
the first animal the father sees after emerging from the TeePee
will be given as a name to the child...

so there is "Wise Eagle"
and "Little Bear"...
and "Running Rabbit"

then he asked me, "why do you ask this question, "Small Dog Peeing?"
because of that unfortunate event I changed my name to Krimster
a name chosen for me by my village friend "Two Squirrels Having Sex III" (popular name, 2 other fathers saw the same thing before that day)

Nano,
I do have a KIND heart...
and can care for and feel kindness for other people
especially for YOU Nano....

won't you just give me a chance?
will you...
will you... be my friend?
prjouste?

I won't hurt you...
come a little closer, projouse?
there...
now look deeply into my blue eyes
deeply...
you are getting sleepy...
sleepy...

PS
my rolodex is "Who's Who" of silicon valley
90 % single men, average net worth in the millions of USD
all highly educated professionals
all in your age range

I could set things up for you
and you're probably wondering WHY i'd go through all that trouble?
well, if you were MY FRIEND, I'd tell you...
but...



 
 
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 07, 2019, 07:52:07 AM
krimster2 but... what?
will you... be my friend?
Yes, of course :welcome: :D
but...
krimster2 is negative mood collector and like collect negative stories and yes full of kakashka that he can not fly :clapping: :D Walking Eagle with very impotent look that can not fly :D ;D :zap:
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 09, 2019, 03:24:25 AM
Its not normal if she say so, but at the same time why she should agree to stay with unfamilia man in not convenient circumstance and hotel. Was you know her well?

I think most man want to be strangers for women but want she trate him as husband. Be tolerate to his "we havent money for this hotel", be close to him and show how she like him and the "chemistry" all the time. :D
And I really cant understand what for this trip? Is it serching a wife or just social companion? If social companion why not to find a man-friend who would tolerate to cheap hotel and pay for himself?

 
They just trying to evoid endless panpal messaging maybe. A lot of man messaging through years with nothing visit.
Its I mentioned above.
And there are prostitutes also and ecscorts and so on categoree of women.
First of all better to find wife (not a photomodel) and travel with her as you both would convenient. Man usially like to choose photomodel ("the best choice") and then complain she is reject his 3* hotel and do not want devide his "simple life".

I think Nano makes a fair enough point. It's what I have said recently that FSW girls in the 5-7 looks category tend to be a safer bet than FSW girls in the 'model' looking 8-10 category. Even a girl who is a 3-4 in looks may not be bad looking to some men. Most 8-10 looks girls are swamped with men on these websites band their expectations go through the roof. That's ok if the guy is wealthy, of good status and/or looks an 8-10 himself. If not the hot model 8-10 looks girl is likely to disrespect the guy and roll over him as we have in the case here with Messi.

Yet it's so easy to fall for an 8-10 hot model girl online, even for a guy who sets out after an everyday 4-7 looks girl. A hot 8-10 looks girl knows how to flaunt her figure yet as krimster has pointed out in the past even a plain looking girl can score a high 8-10 in the figure category. The problem a lot of everyday women have I find is that they tend to wear everyday clothing. This can peg them even lower down the overall scale when compared to the hot women and does nothing to excite the guy.

I know a guy who is short, rents a small place, has low job status and not great on looks either. He's a real nice guy but I think he knows he's chances are remote, I get the impression even most unattractive larger women pass him over. I think he has largely given up already on finding a girl and he is only in his late twenties. I think he has pretty much accepted this and now only really wants anyone, guys most likely as a social companion. He might strike it lucky one day and find a girl but it looks unlikely at this. If he became wealthy or better status then matters might change. I tend to find that behind a lot of this 'love' stuff are more practical concerns; money, looks, status, etc. After all if it was all based on love we would all be having roughly the same number of relationships and that if course is not the case.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 09, 2019, 03:32:45 AM
 :D  Trenchcoat what is the ranges 4-7 looks girl? first time listern about it... :popcorn:
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Patagonie on July 09, 2019, 06:09:01 AM
:D  Trenchcoat what is the ranges 4-7 looks girl? first time listern about it... :popcorn:

10 the most beautiful women of the world according to many sources, reset the score card every year.9 and above, could make a living with it or partially, named top model...8 cute, nice women7 still attractive4 5 6 average, find your way, the real number is not important here.
3 and above ugly or disabled
Shift the score card minus +1 for western guys who had never been used to slavic women. They will rate a 7 by a 8.
If you are used to the slavic world you have ajusted for a while and got the new score card. Your local women suffer a minus 1 now or 0.5  ;D
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: msmob on July 09, 2019, 07:04:32 AM
Loved the explanation..

Such scores are uter nonsense..,normally by guys who are single and 'theorise'..

What is beauty? Looks, character, body, breasts, bums... What is a priority to a guy...?


SC wears short shirts, is tanned, has long blonde hair and turns heads..


When we might have a disagreement all the beauty in the world is unimportant..


How he or she fits your day to day needs is the most important 'score'....




Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: 2tallbill on July 09, 2019, 10:16:49 AM
No; only those who demonstrate that they are so.

You pretty much discriminate against any and all Russians.
Your excuse has been that 80% of them support Putin so
they are 80% bad.

Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: 2tallbill on July 09, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
I do not know where to start in this forum.

Welcome to the forum!

You appear to be a one post wonder, did you lose your password?

For advice, I think you are barking up the wrong tree. If you don't
want romance then find a club or group with similar interests as
yourself.

For example, if you like golfing you will find no shortage of golfing
groups that would love to hit the various courses in Scotland or
where ever you are traveling.

The same with fishing, camping, hiking, art, etc. There are groups
for nearly every interest. However, if your interest is having a sexy
Russian woman as your bunk mate. I can't blame you, my wife is a
sexy Russian and excellent bunk mate and I really, really enjoy her
companionship. 

The only way that I know of having a sexy Russian woman as your
traveling companion and sex kitten is to win her heart, get her to
fall in love with you and marry her.

The other way is to pay her.

Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: 2tallbill on July 09, 2019, 10:41:00 AM
And I really cant understand what for this trip? Is it serching a wife or just social companion? If social companion why not to find a man-friend who would tolerate to cheap hotel and pay for himself?


You've distilled the essence of the man's post. What are his real goals?
If he were only looking for a travel and social companion then why 
look at sexy Russian women? Doesn't he have friends?

The truth is probably that he wanted a beautiful woman and sex kitten
to travel with him. There are only two ways to do that.
1. Romance her, win her heart
2. Pay her (a lot)

Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 09, 2019, 11:41:33 AM
You've distilled the essence of the man's post. What are his real goals?
If he were only looking for a travel and social companion then why 
look at sexy Russian women? Doesn't he have friends?

The truth is probably that he wanted a beautiful woman and sex kitten
to travel with him. There are only two ways to do that.
1. Romance her, win her heart
2. Pay her (a lot)

The answer is probably no, it's not uncommon, the guy I was talking about doesn't. If you've not a lot going for you in life other people won't want to spend much time with you. If a guy lacks personality, a social life, is short, unattractive, other guys won't want to associate with that. Most want to be heading the opposite way. In addition some people can't put up with people being constantly in their life and popping up sporadically. They find it easier to be with someone for a short while here & there.

Perhaps Messi just hasn't got this sorted out clearly yet. Nano's contribution was great as I think it may be a clearer view of where Messi needs to head if he is still looking at this thread. I think he is struggling between hot women and escorts with not a lot of difference to define them. He is not realising that hot women to spend time with him comes at a high price for him if he is not a desirable man to them. I've told him cheaper ways to go about it but I think he will find it a struggle to fulfil what he wants that way particularly long term. As Nano says he could be better off finding someone like himself and male so no sense of romance by the back door is suspected as it might be by a woman.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 09, 2019, 12:16:16 PM
:D  Trenchcoat what is the ranges 4-7 looks girl? first time listern about it... :popcorn:

Hi Nano, yeah Pat has it about right. An 8-10 facial looks girl will be someone like Hollywood pop stars like Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande, etc They have added game to their facial looks so can get sponsorship deals with big companies to promote their goods. They can get big money just to mention a product on Instagram without even necessarily being photographed with it. This money would likely be more than you or I earn in a year.

Taylor Swift on the other hand I would rate as a 6-7 facial looks girl. For me a 7 but for others a 6 or possibly less. She has fame also  but she got there by other means than her looks. She got in as a country artist and had to learn the guitar and get involved learning that whole scene. Most importantly her father was wealthy and was able to finance her entry into the industry. She has been honest to admit that if she hadn't had that then she probably wouldn't had got on as well as she had - or similar words to that effect. That others didn't have the leg up she had in that respect. She's not an entirely unattractive girl but she just fell a little short like most women of the 8-10 model facial looks you need to get in as an unknown and immediately look the part of a pop star or film star that people would look up to. Her more everyday looks in the end helped play well with those that were getting fed up of seeing 8-10s getting all the joy.

So a 5-7 will be an average everyday looking guy or girl, facially. So what is a 1-4 facial looking girl. We can imagine a 1 or 2 as being in the most ugly person you've ever seen category. Someone who would not be pleasant to look at on sighting. A 3-4 facial looks girl would be unattractive to many but no necessarily to all. 'Inna' in the documentary 'Love me' could be described as a 3-4 facially, I would say a 4:

http://www.lovemethedocumentary.com/characters.php

Nothing wrong with going for a 4 or being one in my book so long as the guy feels it for her. I would indeed go for a 4 but only if I felt like I could wake up in the morning and be happy being with her, that I felt she fitted and her look suited me so that I probably would rate her higher than others would have. Many men no doubt pass over the 4s but this I have learnt can be a mistake as they are likely to be more genuine and appreciative, no guarantees but probably more likely.
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 09, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
10 the most beautiful women of the world according to many sources
But is there score for man? Trenchcoat would in top 10, of course. If considering in this way so it would appearing the boy at supermarket where the most buiterful woman price a lot but the less one cost nothing. And when you pay at least the most beautiful so one fart bring her score to the down :D And would need to go to supermarket again to change the one. :popcorn:
Trench,

My comment is not about interests and hobbies.  It's with your view of thinking of people as objects.

See them as a person, not a category.
+100
Better to buy special sexy toy - they always smells good, never argue and have special garantee she would stay buity through even very-very hot sexy session! :) :D always at top10 range!!! :D :clapping:
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: nano on July 09, 2019, 12:36:22 PM

Taylor Swift
This peoples are masters of illusions. You cant measure your life with that othewise you life always would ugly and unattractive. Taylor Swift in real life can be the same as any other women and maybe worse and very hurd to have connection with. So better to see you own real life and price people near you then try to comply with these illusions.

In this words if Taylor Swift fart near you - its bring her score to the down very quiqly :D And then would Angeline Joly the most buiterful women unless you meet her in real life. :D
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: ML on July 10, 2019, 03:26:28 PM
Most importantly her father was wealthy and was able to finance her entry into the industry. She has been honest to admit that if she hadn't had that then she probably wouldn't had got on as well as she had - or similar words to that effect. That others didn't have the leg up she had in that respect.

I recently saw an episode of Johnny Carson.
A gal came on who was tall, slender and blonde, and who had DDDD breasts jacked up to her chin.
She had recently been in a movie.
She had very good humor and said her breasts had started developing when she was 9 years old.
Said that, of course her body helped get her in the door, but once inside the door she had to compete for the role with a dozen other gals who looked similar to her and had made it inside the door.
A very young Eddie Murphy was also on the show, and dropped the hilarious . . .

"Where is this door?"
Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: ML on July 10, 2019, 03:29:46 PM
The truth is probably that he wanted a beautiful woman and sex kitten
to travel with him. There are only two ways to do that.
1. Romance her, win her heart
2. Pay her (a lot)

I would agree with this being the case 95% or so of the time.

However, I did find a very few FSU gals who traveled with me only for fun and adventure, and had pretty good money themselves.

But almost like needles in haystack.
Title: A travel companion
Post by: 2tallbill on July 10, 2019, 03:50:54 PM
I would agree with this being the case 95% or so of the time.

However, I did find a very few FSU gals who traveled with me only for fun and adventure, and had pretty good money themselves.

But almost like needles in haystack.

They wanted you to be their boy toy?  :D

Yes, occasionally find somebody who likes you and is more than happy
to travel and/or do stuff with you, but most guys will find it difficult to
find a gal like that and although it's really fun sometimes, I don't advise
guys here to pursue Girl Buddies or even f#ck buddies because it delays
you finding the future Mrs ___________________ Your name here.

There are already enough delays, roadblocks, inconveniences, trials and
tribulations that I advise people against wasting time on such exercises.

Of course, I've done all the above and wasted all the time that anyone
could waste making mistakes, chasing girls who were too young, etc.
I've had f#ck buddies and girls who would happily go on a road trip
with me and keep the bed warm. Guys can spend 9 years on this
pursuit like I did or do it faster, I recommend faster.

Title: Re: A travel companion
Post by: 2tallbill on July 10, 2019, 03:58:13 PM
But is there score for man?

Probably, but only if you could you find 5 women who would
agree on a score?


Better to buy special sexy toy - they always smells good, never argue and have special garantee she would stay buity through even very-very hot sexy session! :) :D always at top10 range!!! :D :clapping:

They can buy an inflate-i-mate! Not a doll but an action figure!
You are hereby awarded funny post medal!

Udachi!

Bill