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« Reply #625 on: February 16, 2015, 04:50:11 PM »
Despite Putin's frequent denials and misleading statement from Russia-- here is evidence of meeting with Russian General--err-- for those that missed it--he is Russian military!!  NB--meeting was in Ukraine!!

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OSCE SMMU - Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine
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STATEMENT BY ALEXANDER HUG, THE DEPUTY CHIEF MONITOR OF THE OSCE SPECIAL MONITORING MISSION TO UKRAINE in Kramatorsk
Five months ago all sides agreed on the needs for a ceasefire and to refrain from attacking moves. On 12 February the same sides agreed to implement a comprehensive ceasefire from midnight on 15 February - not a partial, temporary, or half-hearted ceasefire, but a comprehensive one. Violation of the letter or spirit of these agreements directly jeopardizes achievement of the other measures agreed in Minsk. Any attempts to create so-called 'new facts on the ground' and, in particular, any attacking moves, fly in the face of these same agreements.
The sides have agreed that OSCE should monitor and verify the ceasefire and the OSCE has agreed to do so. The SMM will continue to do so objectively and impartially, with a view to supporting the soonest possible implementation of the ceasefire.
This evening I have met with Ukrainian and Russian generals Rozmaznin and Lentsov with Viaznikov and the temporary HQ in Soledar. I very much hope that they, as the heads of the JCCC, will jointly control and coordinate cessation of fire as soon as possible. Ukraine and Russia are among the 57 pS that sent the SMM here to monitor the situation, and I am determined that the SMM should fulfill the mandate given to the mission.
Tomorrow I intend to visit Debaltseve. There have been numerous reports and allegations regarding the situation in and around the town. The SMM is instructed, willing and able to objectively monitor the situation there - as long as it is safe to do so. The sides have already committed to cease fire. I am hopeful that the JCCC will help ensure that the ceasefire is indeed fully respected by all units and armed formations, including in the area of Debaltseve."
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #626 on: February 16, 2015, 07:16:49 PM »
When America fails to leas, good people bleed.

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« Reply #627 on: February 21, 2015, 05:10:29 PM »
The article appeared in Russia-- the significance is contained in the last sentence I quote below.With the propaganda doing to softening up job on the Russian people for over a year now-it will be no shock to them to find they are engaged in a war.As long as they think they are the winning side--Putin will be allowed to push his agenda.
If the full might of Russian military resources are used-- Ukraine is simply not equipped to handle them.


Russian media admits that regular Russian troops took Debaltseve


Russian media dropped the pretense of tractor-driving local separatists with the recent report published by Ilya Barabanov in Russia’s newspaper “Kommersant.” It confirms longstanding reports by Ukrainian soldiers that they were fighting Russian regular troops, and not local militants, in Debaltseve. Barabanov writes: “20-year-old Misha was born in Yekaterinburg, 21-year-old Alex – in Mozdok, Artem is 22 years old, he is from the Slavyansk-on-Kuban, Dima is 23, he is from Vladikavkaz. Other guys are from Chita, Norilsk, Ulan-Ude. At the first glance, they have nothing in common. And yet, they do: the city of N, military unit *****, separate motorized infantry brigade 'N'.”

 It is, however, surprising to see that even Russian publications no longer attempt to keep this information a secret. This might be an indication that Russia’s aggression against Ukraine will become even more brazen in the coming days.

http://www.examiner.com/article/russian-media-admits-that-regular-russian-troops-took-debaltseve
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #628 on: February 21, 2015, 06:32:46 PM »
Why do you think the mask is coming off?

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« Reply #629 on: February 21, 2015, 06:45:22 PM »
Why do you think the mask is coming off?

The ongoing feather duster approach of the west has now been tested and confirmed-- so no great reason to maintain pretence. Putin has created the internal climate to support him-so that is no longer an issue for him.
The unfortunate fact is that an unrestrained Russian military  will achieve Putins aims.
Ukrainians have shown a huge amount of guts to try and defend themselves-and have overwhelming public support for the cause of Ukrainian sovereignty -but it will not be enough unless they are given real western support with military aid .No longer will a few upgraded weapons be enough-- an overall strategy to remove Russia from Ukrainian sovereign territory needs to be implemented unequivocally.
Putin will react-- the west needs to be ready.
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #630 on: February 21, 2015, 08:01:23 PM »
Well, if he abandons the pretense of hybrid war, the cowards that currently lead the West will have to cut Russia from SWIFT.  Then things will really get interesting.

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« Reply #631 on: March 01, 2015, 01:39:40 AM »
Georgia: is that beautiful country in the Caucasus mountains. It was the first nation in the world to adopt Christianity, back in the 4th century. Georgian is spoken, as well as Russian and sometimes continental English. The alphabet is a Kartvelian language with what is termed "Georgian script," and to most of us seems to share many similarities to writing in places like Iran and Turkey.

This video was made by Georgian students who share some of their national history, and why they support a free and independent Ukraine. At the end they raise the blue and gold colours of Ukraine. Georgians themselves have seen much pain and heartache over the centuries, yet they are a beautiful and special people.
 
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« Reply #632 on: March 02, 2015, 07:06:38 PM »
Georgia: is that beautiful country in the Caucasus mountains. It was the first nation in the world to adopt Christianity, back in the 4th century. Georgian is spoken, as well as Russian and sometimes continental English. The alphabet is a Kartvelian language with what is termed "Georgian script," and to most of us seems to share many similarities to writing in places like Iran and Turkey.

This video was made by Georgian students who share some of their national history, and why they support a free and independent Ukraine. At the end they raise the blue and gold colours of Ukraine. Georgians themselves have seen much pain and heartache over the centuries, yet they are a beautiful and special people.
 

Why is Tbilisi the orbit of the Kremlin?

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« Reply #633 on: March 03, 2015, 01:45:27 AM »
More on reality and depth of Russian lies.

Killed in "Unknown Circumstances": Russia's Ghost Army in Ukraine (Part 1)
March 3, 2015 | 6:37 am
The bitter conflict in Ukraine has cost thousands of lives, but the Russian government has continuously denied sending its soldiers to the frontlines, despite accusations to the contrary from NATO and Western officials.

VICE News travels to Russia to investigate the mysterious deaths of dozens — possibly hundreds — of active-duty Russian servicemen who are believed to have been killed in Ukraine. Accounts gathered from soldiers' families, human rights workers, and government officials cast doubt on the Kremlin narrative, revealing the unacknowledged sacrifices borne by Russia's ghost army.
http://news.vice.com/video/killed-in-unknown-circumstances-russias-ghost-army-in-ukraine-part-1
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #634 on: March 03, 2015, 01:51:48 AM »
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Why is Tbilisi the orbit of the Kremlin?

I value Georgian independence, but Georgia was subject to domination by Imperials Tsar, and then Soviet Communists. Stalin and Beria were Georgian. Beria was born in present day Abkhazia.

The Kremlin has a hard time allowing others to be independent.
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« Reply #635 on: March 03, 2015, 05:34:17 AM »
It's ok to promote nationalism in it's neighbours but NOT 'ok' at home. That is paranoia
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« Reply #636 on: March 03, 2015, 07:40:16 AM »
The alphabet is a Kartvelian language with what is termed "Georgian script," and to most of us seems to share many similarities to writing in places like Iran and Turkey.
The Kartvelian languages of the Caucasus - i.e. Kartuli (Georgian), Svan, Laz, Mingrelian - belong to an independent language family, having no relations with the Indo-European, Semitic or Ural-Altaic families.
Its very elegant rounded Mkhedruli script (the above spells Kartuli) is unique and bears no resemblance with what is used in Iran (Arabic script) or Turkey (Latin script), except by local Kartvelian minorities.

It was preceded by the Asomtavruli and Nuskhuri scripts, which are somewhat similar to the Armenian script and debatably created by Armenian monks, also responsible for the Caucasian Albanian alphabet of the Gargareans, who once lived in parts of present-day Azerbaijan and Daghestan
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« Reply #637 on: March 03, 2015, 10:14:23 AM »
LT
I value Georgian independence, but Georgia was subject to domination by Imperials Tsar, and then Soviet Communists. Stalin and Beria were Georgian. Beria was born in present day Abkhazia.

The Kremlin has a hard time allowing others to be independent.

I thought that you would have a more recent explanation.  Sakashvili changed the country economically for the better.

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« Reply #638 on: March 04, 2015, 03:10:10 AM »
Some updated numbers of estimated Russian forces. They are heavily supported by artillery and tanks etc
The so called withdrawal of Russian hardware &  troops is a sham-- they are simply rotating troops thru on a normal schedule-- nothing like withdrawing--AS THEY AGREED TO DO.


 In Donbass still drew 12 thousand Russian soldiers


General Hodges argues that there are other evidence of invasion of Russia in Ukraine.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/ato/na-donbasi-dosi-oruduyut-12-tisyach-rosiyskih-viyskovih-general-ssha-413145.html
Russia supports militants in eastern Ukraine about 12 thousand soldiers. As the commander of the US Army in Europe Gen. Ben Hodges, we are talking about the Russian military instructors, maintenance techniques of modern weapons systems and combat troops directly, says Deutsche Welle .
In addition, these figures must be added almost 29000th group that deployed in Crimea. General Hodges argues that there are other evidence of invasion of Russia in Ukraine. For example, numerous cases of electronic methods affect the operation of drones belonging OSCE.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/ato/na-donbasi-dosi-oruduyut-12-tisyach-rosiyskih-viyskovih-general-ssha-413145.html
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 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #639 on: March 04, 2015, 06:54:38 AM »
Mendy,

I always thought that Armenia was the first nation to adopt Christianity?
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« Reply #640 on: March 04, 2015, 10:16:14 AM »
Mendy,

I always thought that Armenia was the first nation to adopt Christianity?

Interesting question.  What constitutes a nation 1,800 years ago?  A nation existing today?   If so, Armenia is certainly one of the oldest if not the oldest whose national church was Christian.   

Before Armenia there were self governing, spatially large communities of settled people practicing Christianity.  Remnants remain but not as an existing nation. 

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« Reply #641 on: March 04, 2015, 10:52:52 AM »
Mendy,

I always thought that Armenia was the first nation to adopt Christianity?

Thank you, Jone. You are right.

I've even written about it in the past so you are free to take half my portion of borsch today!  :D
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« Reply #642 on: March 04, 2015, 02:36:42 PM »
I will.  With Gusto.

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« Reply #643 on: March 04, 2015, 05:49:31 PM »
If so, Armenia is certainly one of the oldest if not the oldest whose national church was Christian.
The latter, Christianity was made the state religion of Armenia in 301 AD by the converted Arsacid ruler Tiridates III, even before Constantine issued his Edict of Milan in 313 which simply allowed Christian worship in the Roman Empire.


Armenian Apostolic Church

Little known is a Catholic branch of the Armenian Church, founded in 1700 by the Armenian Benedictine monk Mechitar who had fled Modone in the then Venetian Moorea (Peloponnesus) invaded by the Turks. He and his monks were granted by the Republic of Venice a small island in the Lagoon formerly used as a lazaret, which then became known as San Lazzaro degli Armeni, where they still reside:


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« Reply #644 on: March 04, 2015, 06:27:43 PM »
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« Reply #645 on: March 05, 2015, 12:00:57 PM »
I will.  With Gusto.

Have you ever been to the White Rabbit in Moscow?  Eating establishment?

Their borsch with baked beans is legendary to many, but I have not personally. They have a great culinary reputation and are one of the places where others go to be seen. I might just have to break down and take the Mrs.
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« Reply #646 on: March 05, 2015, 02:24:05 PM »
Their borsch with baked beans is legendary to many, but I have not personally. They have a great culinary reputation and are one of the places where others go to be seen. I might just have to break down and take the Mrs.

Ah, Mendy, you hit me in my softspot.  That's not fair:  Borsch and baked beans.  Yumbo.  Am trying to get a decent recipe for the homefront.  If you know of any, I will be happy to be your tester and try the recipe.
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« Reply #647 on: March 05, 2015, 03:03:42 PM »
An article from The Independent, on the tension in Mariupol, which expects a full invasion -

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“From interviews with prisoners, we are certain we have been fighting elite Russian divisions: marines, FSB, assault paratroopers,” he said. These elite  forces had been fighting alongside mercenaries, who had “mostly” been recruited  from the Urals area of Russia, with very minimal local influence.

http://goo.gl/6jvSqZ
 
 
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« Reply #648 on: March 05, 2015, 03:36:01 PM »
An article from The Independent, on the tension in Mariupol, which expects a full invasion -

http://goo.gl/6jvSqZ

Tell it to Steamer.  He seems to be a pacifist who doesn't want to believe the obvious.

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« Reply #649 on: March 05, 2015, 04:55:34 PM »
An article from The Independent, on the tension in Mariupol, which expects a full invasion -

http://goo.gl/6jvSqZ


What is obvious? Just because the residents are understandably gun shy doesn't prove an imminent invasion.
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