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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2018, 06:47:55 PM »
most guys her age live in a college dorm and go their parent’s house on holidays to do laundry
like I did...

when I was in college I knew several girls my age who were dating men almost my father’s age, they all wore very nice jewelry...

a woman understand’s her material worth is based on what nature has given her
and that her purchasing power is based on this

a Quid pro quo or something for something is always preferable
to nothing for nothing
if you’re going to live outside the rules
you have to be honest like she is

bolshoi respect to you
me thinks you will do well
seek and ye shall find

the whole love and romance thing is over-rated
go more of a partnership with friends with benefits thrown in
my advice to you
if you want the relationship to be permanent have kids
if not - don't have kids



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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2018, 07:35:47 PM »
Is she being honest?  She says middle aged/old men are "more interesting".  That's not particularly honest.

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2018, 12:50:28 AM »
most guys her age live in a college dorm and go their parent’s house on holidays to do laundry
like I did...

when I was in college I knew several girls my age who were dating men almost my father’s age, they all wore very nice jewelry...

a woman understand’s her material worth is based on what nature has given her
and that her purchasing power is based on this

a Quid pro quo or something for something is always preferable
to nothing for nothing
if you’re going to live outside the rules
you have to be honest like she is

bolshoi respect to you
me thinks you will do well
seek and ye shall find

the whole love and romance thing is over-rated
go more of a partnership with friends with benefits thrown in
my advice to you
if you want the relationship to be permanent have kids
if not - don't have kids

Well as she has explained it so far she wants an older man for a serious relationship (marriage and later children). Apparently younger men aren't serious by which I take it they just want sex  probably often in a series of casual relationships.

Whether Ola wants/expects anything else into the bargain or if she is looking for an older guy that is very wealthy she has not yet made clear I feel.
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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2018, 02:37:36 AM »
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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2018, 03:44:03 AM »
most guys her age live in a college dorm and go their parent’s house on holidays to do laundry
like I did...

when I was in college I knew several girls my age who were dating men almost my father’s age, they all wore very nice jewelry...

a woman understand’s her material worth is based on what nature has given her
and that her purchasing power is based on this

a Quid pro quo or something for something is always preferable
to nothing for nothing
if you’re going to live outside the rules
you have to be honest like she is

bolshoi respect to you
me thinks you will do well
seek and ye shall find

the whole love and romance thing is over-rated
go more of a partnership with friends with benefits thrown in
my advice to you
if you want the relationship to be permanent have kids
if not - don't have kids

Do you think that I want to communicate with a man older only for the sake of money? Then I would already be married. I met several men who talked about their financial condition. Not one word about personality. I could start to communicate with them and already prepare for a date. But is this happiness? not for me. I think that I can buy jewelry for myself, if I want. I know how to make money. I do not need a man for this. I'm interested in men older, because I'm more interested in communicating with them than with guys of my age. I do not find a common language with guys of my age. I always communicated with people older, even at the age of 14 I had friends 30 years old!  :D I hope you understand me!

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2018, 04:14:53 AM »
“I think that I can buy jewelry for myself,”

WHAT?  you’re buying your own jewelry?  WHY?
girl...

BTW, have you bought any ”real jewelry” in the $10,000 and up price range, not little trinkets?
that's what jewelry I'm talking about

“I'm interested in men older, because I'm more interested in communicating with them than with guys of my age. I do not find a common language with guys of my age. I always communicated with people older, even at the age of 14 I had friends 30 years old!  :D I hope you understand me!”

kanyeshnya, ya ponelle
but do you think 40+ yr old English speaking professional men are eager to “communicate” with 20 yr old Russian speaking girls, or are they eager to do “something else”

whether YOU realize it or not, your “relationship” is about “that” and not “communicating"
so if you want to be successful, understand what to focus on
:D I hope you understand me!

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2018, 05:00:38 AM »
This is the age old question of money for sex or sex for money. When the game is known by the players then the game can proceed. If you want a friend go find a dog.

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2018, 06:10:16 AM »
Oly,

ya gavorite pravda

I understand the negative stereotypes about women, sex, and money...
to financially gain from your youth, beauty and sexuality doesn’t make you a woman of “ill-repute”
it makes you successful
why would you deny yourself success based on what I’d consider to be an antiquated morality
combine your youth, beauty and sexuality with the intelligence that I am sure you possess, and you will go much further than on just your intelligence alone...

I am giving you true wisdom here...

as you have noted, you’ve already met a few rich men, and didn’t find their arrogance to your taste
well, not all rich men are like that Olya,
in fact some can be very kind and sweet to a young girl like you...
and generally they are highly educated and cultured and like to travel a lot as well...

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2018, 06:56:54 AM »
Oly,

ya gavorite pravda

I understand the negative stereotypes about women, sex, and money...
to financially gain from your youth, beauty and sexuality doesn’t make you a woman of “ill-repute”
it makes you successful
why would you deny yourself success based on what I’d consider to be an antiquated morality
combine your youth, beauty and sexuality with the intelligence that I am sure you possess, and you will go much further than on just your intelligence alone...

I am giving you true wisdom here...

as you have noted, you’ve already met a few rich men, and didn’t find their arrogance to your taste
well, not all rich men are like that Olya,
in fact some can be very kind and sweet to a young girl like you...
and generally they are highly educated and cultured and like to travel a lot as well...

I understood you. Thanks for the advice  :)

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2018, 08:20:01 AM »
Well, you can tell barely anything to foreigners who trust stereotypes, but let's be fair. Okay, you found middle aged man, would you meet him in your place, let him know your parents/friends or maybe prefer do that in Moscow where no one knows you? If you're looking for sugardaddy, maybe it has sense to do it in your place? Wealthy man have has bunch of women in his country, he doesn't need dono who from Russia/Ukraine/Philippines/Thailand. You're pretty young and maybe didn't get one point: rich man will use you as he wants, no matter is he russian or american. And, again, rich person doesn't have what to do at forums, mail order sites, dating sites, etc. If he wants sex with eastern european woman, he will hire escort or take private jet and get tour to Odessa, Kiev or Moscow. 
If you marry western man and move there, imagine what will think neighbors, relatives. On West huge age gap isn't normal and people around will think he bought you as piece of meat.
Middle aged men usually are divorced and have kids, they pay alimoney and their level of life can be worse than you imagine. If he earns not enough, he simply won't be allowed to marry you. Many of them don't live with wives, but aren't divorced officially. Such man also won't be allowed to marry foreign woman. Even at this forum exist people who travel to eastern european women, but are too poor for marriage or at least be partners. It's more than easy to lie about salary/job online or visit woman for sex and throw away. Yes, foreign guys of your age barely finished school, are traveling all around or just entered college, sure they will not mess with marriage not with local nor foreigner.
On your place I've get education, normal job, during this time have local bf of my age and only then, if nothing of this work, try foreigner. OR, get job somewhere in Poland on fields, earn money and think about moving forever. Easy way is always wrong way. I am eastern european myself, and, sorry, there is nothing good in women who wants use another people to get better life instead making it better themself.

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2018, 08:36:47 AM »
olchik

if you are young and beautiful there are plenty of ways to use your youth and beauty to provide for your material well being...
there are strippers in Las Vegas who make $1,000 per day while they go to night school for a law degree
there are more possible ways to live than just the simple one you imagine

olchik, have you ever known a 40+ yr old American multi-millionaire?
I have, I know how they think
a woman's beauty and sensuality
are highly prized by them
they already have everything but this
and they begin thinking for the first time about their own mortality and children

so if you want to appeal to these men
you want to be a SEX GODDESS
as well as a DOMESTIC GODDESS

or if you prefer some blue collar worker, go for that instead
or none of the above and it's just you against a cold cruel world

but the smart bet would be learn how to use all your assets and not just one
what could be more feminist than for a woman to use her own body for her direct benefit
to deny her this right would seem anti-feminist to me

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2018, 08:44:43 AM »
why don't you women understand
that you're going to get a lot further along in life
if you form some kind of partnership with a man
and get him to be your donkey and do all the heavy lifting for you
compared to you trying to do all that heavy lifting by yourself

follow me so far?
so  do you want to choose the kind of donkey that can lift a lot
or the kind that can't

i'm just sayin that you should seek out the heavy lifters
and not the lightweights


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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2018, 08:57:53 AM »
why don't you women understand
that you're going to get a lot further along in life
if you form some kind of partnership with a man
and get him to be your donkey and do all the heavy lifting for you
compared to you trying to do all that heavy lifting by yourself

follow me so far?
so  do you want to choose the kind of donkey that can lift a lot
or the kind that can't

i'm just sayin that you should seek out the heavy lifters
and not the lightweights

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2018, 09:24:15 AM »
Krimster 2, I prefer to use my brain instead my body to be used by 20+ years older foreigner. Even if I live not in the best place on Earth, I still keep self respect and don't let anyone play games or get someone's toy. We're not starving in Ukraine, there are ways to have decent life and no need to sell body for moving dono where. Smart person always will find ways, dumb one will find excuses and cry how bad is life. Even if this person moves to Europe/North America, he/she still will find excuses for no job, no learning language, etc. Anyway, if you deal with women who prefer being stripper while having degree and think selling body is normal, I'm sorry for you.
P.S. Guys, Ukraine isn't Somalia, not even Philippines, so think twice when meet woman who want move for any price. Its not hard to get job in Poland, for few thousands euro person can get romanian/hungarian passport and, voila, Europe is opened. If person really wants better life, she will find it in own place/move somewhere herself. Person who wants use foreigner, usually need not that much passport as money for no effort.

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2018, 10:24:16 AM »
“You are at a stage in your life whereby you evaluate everything from experience.  But falling deeply in love for the first time is something everyone should experience.” 

I’ve had this experience multiple times in my life when I was younger, and that is why I strongly advise against it!

I completely “wised-up" about romantic non-sense with candle-lit dinners, etc.
some kind of grand passion is completely unnecessary for a happy marriage
some people don’t need to rely on these conformist forms of behavior to feel happy with their relationship by providing some ritualistic form of validation

just keep things real instead

and as long as you have a happy wife
then you have a happy life

always quid pro quo one way or another
gotta be some kinda equilibrium


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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2018, 10:33:08 AM »
“I prefer to use my brain instead my body to be used by 20+ years older foreigner.”

that’s your choice, your decision to decide what kind of life you want to have
do you want to have the kind of life you have now
or do want to be married to an older foreigner and co-own a $2 million mansion in New York City and attend Columbia University Law School
imagine what your clothes closet would look like and Cartier’s and Tiffany’s Jewelry in the safe

I don’t think you can even imagine what the difference would be like!
I’m sure life where you live is just “swell” and you must enjoy each and every day of it
so you should certainly be content with your rodina
hope you enjoy the trolley bus to work every day

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« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2018, 10:37:41 AM »
or do want to be married to an older foreigner and co-own a $2 million mansion in New York City and attend Columbia University Law School
imagine what your clothes closet would look like and Cartier’s and Tiffany’s Jewelry in the safe

What kind of Mansion can you buy for $2mil in New York City? My cousin owns a 2 Bedroom flat for $800k......

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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2018, 10:45:43 AM »
a very small one...

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« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2018, 11:20:32 AM »
Well, you can tell barely anything to foreigners who trust stereotypes, but let's be fair. Okay, you found middle aged man, would you meet him in your place, let him know your parents/friends or maybe prefer do that in Moscow where no one knows you? If you're looking for sugardaddy, maybe it has sense to do it in your place? Wealthy man have has bunch of women in his country, he doesn't need dono who from Russia/Ukraine/Philippines/Thailand. You're pretty young and maybe didn't get one point: rich man will use you as he wants, no matter is he russian or american. And, again, rich person doesn't have what to do at forums, mail order sites, dating sites, etc. If he wants sex with eastern european woman, he will hire escort or take private jet and get tour to Odessa, Kiev or Moscow. 
If you marry western man and move there, imagine what will think neighbors, relatives. On West huge age gap isn't normal and people around will think he bought you as piece of meat.
Middle aged men usually are divorced and have kids, they pay alimoney and their level of life can be worse than you imagine. If he earns not enough, he simply won't be allowed to marry you. Many of them don't live with wives, but aren't divorced officially. Such man also won't be allowed to marry foreign woman. Even at this forum exist people who travel to eastern european women, but are too poor for marriage or at least be partners. It's more than easy to lie about salary/job online or visit woman for sex and throw away. Yes, foreign guys of your age barely finished school, are traveling all around or just entered college, sure they will not mess with marriage not with local nor foreigner.
On your place I've get education, normal job, during this time have local bf of my age and only then, if nothing of this work, try foreigner. OR, get job somewhere in Poland on fields, earn money and think about moving forever. Easy way is always wrong way. I am eastern european myself, and, sorry, there is nothing good in women who wants use another people to get better life instead making it better themself.

I liked how you started out, not trusting in stereotypes, but your view of middle aged western men was nothing but stereotypes. I really dont think a western man would spend all the time and money to meet a fsu lady, if he couldnt  follow through on marrying her. However, I do know at least one man that went to meet a lady, spent a few weeks with her, and used not being financially fit to marry her as an excuse. It was an excuse because he has lots of money, he just didnt like her enough to marry her or even visit again.

You did bring up one good point that a FSU woman needs to know. There can be resentment , jelousy and gossip especially if there is a large age difference.  I married a lady from the FSU and my relatives,  friends and neighbors all treated her very well and with respect. But for two years I felt uncomfortable taking her to business dinners, because I was afraid of dealing with the gossip. But two years later, I realized that was my own hang up, and people at work really enjoyed her company. The jealousy, resentment and gossip normally came from people we barely knew. People would hear the accent and go in hunting for gossip.
  I know many couples here in the USA where the man was very middle class, and married FSU ladies with great success. Both were very happy, and both got out of the marriage what they needed. As you implied, you dont need a mansion to be happy, but you do need a financially stable environment. You are willing to move to Poland and work for it, thats great. But if a fsu woman wants to pursue her happiness by finding stability overseas, its really not fair to try to scare her with stereotypes


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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2018, 12:52:38 PM »
I completely “wised-up" about romantic non-sense with candle-lit dinners, etc.
some kind of grand passion is completely unnecessary for a happy marriage

I haven't yet gotten tired of this nonsense.

Just now, we are preparing to have one of our romantic, candle lit dinners at home including pleasures for her before, during and after.

We both enjoy it a lot and look forward to it still.
A beautiful woman is pleasant to look at, but it is easier to live with a pleasant acting one.

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« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2018, 12:55:35 PM »
There can be resentment , jelousy and gossip especially if there is a large age difference.

Easy solution to this.

We have dyed my hair dark black, and dyed her hair gray and drew age lines on her face.
In that manner, people think that she is older than me.
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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2018, 01:53:35 PM »
“I prefer to use my brain instead my body to be used by 20+ years older foreigner.”

that’s your choice, your decision to decide what kind of life you want to have
do you want to have the kind of life you have now
or do want to be married to an older foreigner and co-own a $2 million mansion in New York City and attend Columbia University Law School
imagine what your clothes closet would look like and Cartier’s and Tiffany’s Jewelry in the safe

I don’t think you can even imagine what the difference would be like!
I’m sure life where you live is just “swell” and you must enjoy each and every day of it
so you should certainly be content with your rodina
hope you enjoy the trolley bus to work every day

Depends I think, in the US being wealthy is a bigger deal because there's stuff like expensive medical insurance to pay for. Imagine losing a loved one because you could not afford to pay for   a needed operation, or suffering yourself. Sure there is stuff where you might get some help and you no doubt know more about that than I Krimster. In Ukraine even if you have to bung a doctor a few thousand ghrvina in a state hospital to get stuff done I suspect you still get cheaper medical access relatively speaking to the US Ola.

So I would say be conscious of what the deal is in each country you may consider moving with a foreign guy with Ola. Many European countries such as the UK still have good State funded hospitals where the whole population is covered.

I think the US (while it may vary a little from state to state) is very money/wealth focused for a reason and that being if don't pursue it you risk suffering greatly.

That said speaking as a UK guy from where I am a person of moderate wealth can live just as good a life or better than a rich wealthy person. Most people's lives I find are much the same. One person may go to posh university or work in a prestigious company or have an expensive car while another may go to a bog standard university, work at one of many type of company and drive an ordinary cheap car or perhaps take the bus. It's all living and there's no reason the more everyday lifestyle is any less enjoyable than the rich lifestyle, it's just not dressed up as much.

The question I would like to put to you Ola is have you tried International dating websites looking for 30-45 year old men?

I ask since this is a forum more than a dating site and while it is feasible to pick a guy up here it's generally not a dating site as such.
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« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2018, 01:55:33 PM »
"ust now, we are preparing to have one of our romantic, candle lit dinners at home including pleasures for her before, during and after.

We both enjoy it a lot and look forward to it still."

to each, his own, we prefer skipping pretense and empty ritual
enjoyment comes directly from doing things we enjoy
 

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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2018, 02:14:39 PM »


The question I would like to put to you Ola is have you tried International dating websites looking for 30-45 year old men?

I ask since this is a forum more than a dating site and while it is feasible to pick a guy up here it's generally not a dating site as such.
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Yes, I use dating sites! I know that many good men are there. I just wanted to meet new people here and chat!  :)

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Re: Russian girl wants to find a good man!
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2018, 02:17:16 PM »
Depends I think, in the US being wealthy is a bigger deal because there's stuff like expensive medical insurance to pay for. Imagine losing a loved one because you could not afford to pay for   a needed operation, or suffering yourself. Sure there is stuff where you might get some help and you no doubt know more about that than I Krimster. In Ukraine even if you have to bung a doctor a few thousand ghrvina in a state hospital to get stuff done I suspect you still get cheaper medical access relatively speaking to the US Ola.

So I would say be conscious of what the deal is in each country you may consider moving with a foreign guy with Ola. Many European countries such as the UK still have good State funded hospitals where the whole population is covered.

I think the US (while it may vary a little from state to state) is very money/wealth focused for a reason and that being if don't pursue it you risk suffering greatly.

That said speaking as a UK guy from where I am a person of moderate wealth can live just as good a life or better than a rich wealthy person. Most people's lives I find are much the same. One person may go to posh university or work in a prestigious company or have an expensive car while another may go to a bog standard university, work at one of many type of company and drive an ordinary cheap car or perhaps take the bus. It's all living and there's no reason the more everyday lifestyle is any less enjoyable than the rich lifestyle, it's just not dressed up as much.

The question I would like to put to you Ola is have you tried International dating websites looking for 30-45 year old men?

I ask since this is a forum more than a dating site and while it is feasible to pick a guy up here it's generally not a dating site as such.

Trench...Insurance is cheap. I pay $90/month on a Gold Plan...

As for Government paid University? You've heard of supply/demand yes? Ask the women and men in Ukraine what a government paid for University got them. It's expected. It's 13th Grade. It devalues the entire purpose of higher education if everyone gets it.

 

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