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Title: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on April 24, 2022, 12:49:41 PM
Long-term reader, first time poster. Mods, please let me know if this is the wrong spot.

A disclaimer: there are more important things in the world right now than my dating life, like the safety of Ukranians. I send my compassion to those of you with families in all affected countries.

I also recognize that we are a discussion forum for dating FSU women. So how is the war affecting your approach to FSU dating?

Factors I consider:
-Russians are active on dating sites, but travel is closed.
-Russia-West relations may be shot for a while as Russia tightens its authoritarian grip.
-Ukrainians are still active on dating sites but are sheltering in basements or logging on from hotels in host countries.
-Belarus is sketchy because of their involvement and view of Westerners.
-We may be entering another USSR/Cold War phase, making visits to the in-laws difficult even if you met a Russ/Belarusian in a neutral country.

Particularly for those of you with some experience but who are not married, what do you think? Are you still talking to women from dating sites? Have you changed which countries you look at? Are you staying closer to home in your search for now?

I’ve dated (in person and at distance) a couple Russians here and abroad, and I appreciate your thoughts about now and the future.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Chelseaboy on April 24, 2022, 01:37:25 PM
I think we're going to go far beyond the Cold War stage.


I'd say Putler is looking to recreate the FSU as a  minimum,so NATO will have to put boots on the ground sooner or later,  with Latvia,Lithuania and Estonia all formerly part of the FSU and now NATO members,which means article 5 will be triggered if and when Russia invades one of them.


At 69 Putler wants to create a legacy before he dies and we now know he wants to take eastern and southern Ukraine at least..to form a land bridge to Transnistria,so Moldova will be next on his hit list .


With a total population less than the population of Kyiv,Moldova won't take long to conquer..a month maybe, and then i suspect Georgia will be next.


With the increased manpower/cannon fodder at his disposal he'll then eye the aforementioned Baltic States.


He may even fancy conquering the rest of Europe and attempting to destroy Democracy ,i can imagine Belarus, Serbia and maybe Hungary,who've been publicly mocking Zelensky recently, supporting him,and if so he'll do that before the $30 billion a month war machine financing the EU pays him for Russian Gas and Oil stops.


We don't know what China will be doing yet...will they support him ?


A Nuclear War could be around the corner the way things are escalating by the week.


As far as dating FSU women is concerned,i'd say forget about it ,unless you can find a single/recently widowed Ukrainian woman refugee, who will no doubt now be suffering from huge PTS after the horrendous shock of what the Russian Orcs have done to her country/family.


Once anybody is affected by that you never know what's round the corner.


As Krimster has said on here the Stans,and particularly Uzbekistan ,is probably your best bet for looking for FSU dating now,although the Russian Orcs may tighten things up there too regarding access and control.


If Ukraine falls to the Orcs we're all well and truly f....d, with life as we know it a thing of the past IMO.



What a World we live in when one evil despot can cause so much despair and potentially cause so much damage...and at his age it's going to happen quickly.


Hitler was 50 when he started World War 2 by invading Czechoslovakia,so at 69 Putler has to move in the fast lane to catch up.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 24, 2022, 03:23:15 PM
I think the answer to your question is not so much based on “external factors” as it is on “internal ones”
by that I mean, yeah, for sure the risk factors have greatly increased, to the point where you should ask yourself, “is the risk worth the potential reward?

My opinion as a married guy to an FSU woman for over 20 years, is “hell yeah, it’s worth the risk”
but if you’re a smart guy, you can handle the risks WAY better than a dumb one can!!!
and this is what I mean by “internal factors”

it would be better now to meet in a third country, Turkey is the ideal choice, I love Istanbul, and it’s really amazingly inexpensive to stay there and simple for you and her to get a visa straight off the plane

money transfers to Russia are harder now, but can be done, if you do your homework
the Russian chat app “Telegram” has a gizillion threads on sending money to Russia, Ukraine is EASY!

Pick your cities, Ternopil would be my favored choice in Ukraine, and stay away from obvious missile targets

I left Moscow a few months ago, had less problems there with people than I did with anti-maskers in the USA a couple of years ago, dress in the local clothing style known as "Men in Black", put on a couple of pro-Russian buttons on your clothes (I have a ton of pro-Russian pins and badges just for this purpose), don’t speak English in public, wear one of those Black Beanie Pull Down Hats with no label, and if you’re an average lookin white guy, you won’t get any attention drawn to yourself at all

Moscow is definitely much more tense and xenophobic than it was when I was there a few months ago, you’d have to be VERY careful in public now
I used to like to wander all around Moscow and hang out in various places, wouldn’t do that now!
The only place I’d recommend staying in Moscow is in “City Center”, it’s expensive, but “gopnicks” and “hooligans” don’t go there, so a safer choice should you go to Russia

BTW, I have gotten into SEVERAL fist fights in Russia over the years with various gopnicki
Russian laws don’t allow you to carry ANY kind of “self protection”
I found two ways around this restriction:

1. tungsten rings – buy tungsten rings in multiple sizes, so you can put 3 on each finger, four fingers worth equals the weight of “brass knuckles” AND they’re always on!!, distribute the rings in your luggage so that customs don’t get the idea you’re a ring smuggler when you enter Russia

2. bicycle chain and big padlock carried in your backpack, you can buy these locally, Russians make a HUGE padlock, this is what I recommend, swing this on a gopnick gullivar and welcome to Russki Mir

also get your covid shots up to date, you DO NOT want “bad Covid” in Russia

at this time, there’s a lot less competition for the “devs” this’ll work to your favor
fortune, favors the bold!
go for it, but BE SMART!

and of course there are the "stans" Uzbeckistan, Kazakhstan, etc, OMG SO MANY beautiful wimmin there, and no competition AT ALL
and what a wild place to explore with the usual safety caveats





Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on April 24, 2022, 05:44:00 PM
Two very different responses so far, and I appreciate them both.

My friend in Irtusk tells me that Russian people don’t want Putin‘s war, and that visitors will be safe, but my instinct, like Krimster’s, is to expect trouble from SOMEbody if visiting Russia during this charged time. 

After all, my last Russian lady friend went hardcore into support for the war once the sanctions hit. It was a “NATO wants to destroy us” mood. I imagine others are feeling that way after the propaganda machine.

Turkey is a great neutral ground. I have met a Russian woman there before to avoid Russian winter. And the Stans continue to sound interesting.

I don’t want to limp all Ukrainians into the “damaged goods“ PTSD territory. Each individual may have different levels of resiliency, and the war in Kyiv was not/is not the war in Bucha. 

But I have thought about the same concern.  I’ll take it on a case by case basis and hope that each affected person finds someone to love him/her in a way that leaves room for their healing. I do notice that it feels very awkward to write a dating-site message to someone who is worried about life and death, even if they are active on the site!

I look forward to more responses from those who share.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 24, 2022, 06:11:54 PM
Irtusk is a bad place to visit, this year the fires are are already really big and by summer you'll hardly be able to breathe or see due to the HUGE amount of smoke
this happens EVERY year and gets bigger and bigger each year
also makes air travel dangerous

HUGE mosquito problem as well, repellant doesn't work too well
it will definitely make you not want to explore the rivers and countryside, I've never before seen such dark swarms of blood suckers

Most people won't bother you there
but, your problems will come from gangs of young men who roam the streets up to no good
who are allowed in Russia to consume alcohol on the street, and will be drunk and looking to impress their girlfriends
they'll think you're easy prey, and they know militsa won't lift a finger to protect you
how good of a fighter are you against 4-5 to 1 odds?

I was in Irtusk, until 2020 in the bitcoin mining biz
power is amost free there, and my partners bought out a bankrupt food freezer warehouse
and we built our mining farm inside it

you'll get used to your clothes smelling like smoke
but the mosquitos getting into your house will drive you crazy at night when you're trying to sleep
and you hear them buzzing around your head and then biting you
you get up and kill them, and an hour later there's more
I literally had to sleep under netting

because I had a "patron" I had priviliges a tourist didn't have
I carried a Russian flare pistol converted into a sawed off shotgun
easy to buy flare pistols and shotgun shells in Russia
but if a tourist was busted with this, it would cost you some major money...

(pic enclosed)



Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ML on April 24, 2022, 06:13:22 PM
Just today we had picnic here for Orthodox Christian Easter.

One fairly young man from Romania had traveled to many countries as he was on an Olympic team.

He said:  The most beautiful women are to be found in Serbia.

His new Romanian wife of about two months (they had been together for 8 years) said:  Oh wow, most beautiful in Serbia.

I quickly came to his rescue and said, he meant in general, not specific.

He said: Yeah, that's what I meant !!

She gave a weak smile.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 24, 2022, 06:19:29 PM
oh yeah, a lotta beautiful wimmin in Serbia, and they're TALL, which is my preference
I am also partial to Hungarian and Czech wimmin
if you're "weel heeled" these are good hunting territories for a trophy wife
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Chelseaboy on April 25, 2022, 01:50:59 AM
I'm actually in communication with a Serbian hottie in Belgrade and have been invited to go and meet her in person this summer. :)


The political situation there does concern me though...with plenty of Russian flag-waving going on in the streets there.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 25, 2022, 06:58:53 AM
MUCH safer than Russia!!
a good choice!
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on April 25, 2022, 10:35:50 AM
Irtusk is starting to sound like south Florida with the mosquitoes.

I’d like to avoid four on one fights. Where did your fist fights take place, Krimster? In Irtusk, or the capital, or somewhere else?

Good luck, Chelseaboy.

And ML—oof. That dude’s going to learn what to say. He just needs a couple more years. 😂
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on April 25, 2022, 11:06:16 AM
A little over 50% of Russians support the invasion of Ukraine (unofficially, official support is much higher), so stating Russians "don't want this war" is a little disingenuous. 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 25, 2022, 11:49:17 AM
"I’d like to avoid four on one fights. Where did your fist fights take place, Krimster? In Irtusk, or the capital, or somewhere else? "

Moscow and Mirny, were my main areas for problems, though they can come anywhere, I had security and weapons in Irtusk, I always flew from Moscow to Irtusk, about a 6 hour flight
and I'd always spend time in Moscow first and I got into a few scrapes there, sometimes attempted robbery, sometimes let's harass the foreigner to impress girlfriends
more gopnicks in Moscva, but Irtusk and far east have a lotta "street people" to watch out for, robbery is pretty common there
a lone foreigner is easy prey to them
after I got experience, I got REAL good at spotting sketchy people, and avoiding them, but it means you ALWAYS have to be on alert
the mosquito problem is FAR worse than Florida, I mean, much, much worse
info on mosquito bourne viruses is sketchy in Russia
here in Texas they have West Nile (no vaccine)
I own property in Costa Rica, and take anti-malaria tablets once per week there, but quantity of mosquitos is less than 1% of Syber
I know 'skitters don't sound like a serious problem, but just wait until you see the sheer number, it's astounding
you'll see sick and dying cows and deer covered in clouds of 'skeeters that descend upon them, I don't know what causes the animal deaths
I don't think it's from anemia, so I assume a mosquito bourne disease, no one I ask there seems to know


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: JohnDearGreen on April 25, 2022, 04:10:56 PM

Factors I consider:
-Russians are active on dating sites, but travel is closed.
-Russia-West relations may be shot for a while as Russia tightens its authoritarian grip.


Tall Travels, an Englishman and sometimes Serbian, is in St. Pete now and planning on staying for months.   He doesn't seem to have any concerns about safety.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcyuxaDF5Nc

BaldBankrupt just returned from Syria.  Ladies didn't look too bad in Damascus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6d0zw-DxpU
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 25, 2022, 04:52:25 PM
talltravels was walking on a workday in an area with a low population of young men
try doing it on a weekend in an area where a lot of "working class" young men are "hangin out" and drinking in their favorite spot
and you might get a different outcome
neighborhood characteristics can quickly change and you may not know the boundaries BETWEEN A GOOD AND BAD NEIGHBORHOOD

safety is a probability game, your safety on park avenue in new york city on a monday morning
will be different than it is in central harlem on a saturday night...

the other problem is that it's likely the police if they are present may choose NOT to treat YOU as a victim of a crime
but instead treat YOU as a provocateur, added risk here

the police in St. Petersburg are NOTORIOUS for harassing foreigners and applying small fines
and this was BEFORE the special military operation
the average tourist is pretty much on their own in Russia
and NO SMART PERSON WOULD EVER RELY ON THE KINDNESS OF STRANGERS IN RUSSIA

I have been in fights in Russia, fists and feet flying
I'm prepared for that
most Russians can tell that they should leave me the hell alone
and I am good at camoflaging myself to not stand out
and know to stay away from alchogolicki hooligans the day after payday

but all adventure has its dangers
I consider it worthwhile to live an adventurous life
and I enjoy an element of danger
others may not be so enclined

all jungles have a set of principles that increase your chances of survival
experience has taught me the Russian rules
but the jungle has a way of changing

my biggest risk in Russia isn't gopnicks
but the FSB
I would not like to spend the rest of my life as a programmer in a Russian prison
like Konstantin Kozlovsky, the hacker who hacked Hillary's emails, etc while working from inside a Russian FSB prison cell
here's the cover of his biography
I don't want to brag, but he's a light weight
until recently, I was untouchable in Russia
but when the people who guaranteed my safety
felt paranoid to the point, that they beg me to get their children "out"
then it's clearly time for me to say "paka" and go with them


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on April 28, 2022, 03:57:05 PM
I appreciate the additional info and perspectives.

I’m used to the rough side of town, so I understand the body language involved in evaluating threats and projecting strength. But it is very nice living in a place where my biggest threat now is a snowbird running over me in a parking lot!

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 28, 2022, 04:25:03 PM
it really is a "probability games"
my experiences are based upon YEARS of residency in Russia/Ukraine
average tourist who spends just a couple of weeks there has a lower probability of bad experiences than someone who's a long term resident
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: civi68 on April 29, 2022, 05:32:33 AM
I am going to wait since who knows where this will end up. Your likelihood of finding someone in Ukraine or in a holding pattern in a European country in an unstable situation is high. While I would not be as concerned around the typical Russian in Russia, the Russian government knows you are there and who knows what someone could decide there if things turned for the worst while you are there. Or you make travel plans only to have the situation worsen where you can't travel. Best to wait a few months and see what happens.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Chelseaboy on April 29, 2022, 07:05:52 AM
With all the rhetoric coming out of Russian mouths we could all be fighting the Orcs soon anyway.


Could be you'll be lying in a field in Ukraine/Russia next to a hottie firing at the Orcs.


"Hi i'm Bill from the UK/USA ..sorry about the dog breath ".


"Hi i'm Svetlana from Ukraine "


"Nice to meet you Svetlana..let's kill some Russian Orcs together and celebrate afterwards "


"Good idea Bill "  :P


The start of a beautiful relationship ? :)
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 29, 2022, 08:12:47 AM
don’t forget that those with prior military and related technical experience, must list it on their Russian visa application

this is kinda a “catch-22” situation, if you omit things, that’s considered a crime and you risk exposure to arrest for visa fraud
OTOH, if you tell the truth, and list your experience and education, you pin a target on your back

this happened to me
but I had “friends” who intervened
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Grumpy on April 29, 2022, 09:08:07 AM
U.S. state dept. recommends to get out and no travel to Moldova. The Baltic nations, Finland, Austria, Czech Republic, and former Yugoslav nations would be better choices. In nations bordering Ukraine and the Black Sea  you might want to consider avoiding certain areas. Finding lodging might be problematic anywhere there are large amounts of refugees. I would avoid potential partners in desperate situations.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 29, 2022, 09:38:45 AM
In Russia, your western credit cards are worthless at the moment, you have to deposit cash in an unsanctioned bank, and get a debit card from them to be able to book a room
a lot of  bureaucratic paperwork involved in that
way too much hassle for the average tourist to navigate, so average tourist is SOL in Russia

Ukraine is OK as far as that's concerned
far western cities are safer
more people get shot in large American cities from random gun violence, than from Russian missile strikes in Western Ukraine
if I were a young single guy, I'd get all my covid vaccines, and wouldn't hesitate to look for hotties in Western Ukraine

imagine being a 40 yr old upper middle class dewd, and meeting this future trophy wife in Ternopil
who cares about the rockets red glare and bombs bursting in air
when there's pooty tang like this to be had

she will give you the best sex you've EVER had, and will do all the cooking and cleaning, tend to the garden, etc, AND give ya a couple of kids
and ya'll are worried about a couple of rockets?
gozpedy



Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Patagonie on April 29, 2022, 11:31:25 AM
talltravels was walking on a workday in an area with a low population of young men
try doing it on a weekend in an area where a lot of "working class" young men are "hangin out" and drinking in their favorite spot
and you might get a different outcome
neighborhood characteristics can quickly change and you may not know the boundaries BETWEEN A GOOD AND BAD NEIGHBORHOOD

safety is a probability game, your safety on park avenue in new york city on a monday morning
will be different than it is in central harlem on a saturday night...

the other problem is that it's likely the police if they are present may choose NOT to treat YOU as a victim of a crime
but instead treat YOU as a provocateur, added risk here

the police in St. Petersburg are NOTORIOUS for harassing foreigners and applying small fines
and this was BEFORE the special military operation
the average tourist is pretty much on their own in Russia
and NO SMART PERSON WOULD EVER RELY ON THE KINDNESS OF STRANGERS IN RUSSIA

I have been in fights in Russia, fists and feet flying
I'm prepared for that
most Russians can tell that they should leave me the hell alone
and I am good at camoflaging myself to not stand out
and know to stay away from alchogolicki hooligans the day after payday

but all adventure has its dangers
I consider it worthwhile to live an adventurous life
and I enjoy an element of danger
others may not be so enclined

all jungles have a set of principles that increase your chances of survival
experience has taught me the Russian rules
but the jungle has a way of changing

my biggest risk in Russia isn't gopnicks
but the FSB
I would not like to spend the rest of my life as a programmer in a Russian prison
like Konstantin Kozlovsky, the hacker who hacked Hillary's emails, etc while working from inside a Russian FSB prison cell
here's the cover of his biography
I don't want to brag, but he's a light weight
until recently, I was untouchable in Russia
but when the people who guaranteed my safety
felt paranoid to the point, that they beg me to get their children "out"
then it's clearly time for me to say "paka" and go with them


You did it on time Krim.
 
I advertised to NOT GO to Ukraine 5 weeks before the war starts.
A lot of people didn't believe me.
 
The most difficult is to be on the move, two steps in advance, and leave its comfort zone.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 29, 2022, 01:15:54 PM
The invasion didn’t come as a surprise, I wrote here about 2 years ago (can’t remember when exactly, and I’m too lazy to search) that the invasion would come at the end of a February, and would be about 250,000 strong, which proved accurate, not a prediction on my part, but a communication from some of “my customers” in regards to how this would effect “bizness”

my clan felt they owed me, after the “accident” my wife had, that was intended for me
and after I was allowed to “clean that up”, it was back to bizness as usual

my clan later agreed to let Digital River buy out our bitcoin mining biz, while we expanded our bizness on Hydra with “THC edibles” that were manufactured in Russia

I setup an operation that chemically transformed pure CBD purchased in Canada to THC Delta-8/9 and made edibles like the one shown here

we had an army of “grafitniki” who spray painted our QR codes all over Moscva
just point your phone’s camera at the QR code and go buy your edibles on Hydra

it made a ton of money, even after paying off everyone!

The war changed this happy little world of ours, the Krisha wanted more, almost all of it actually
and several members of our clan ended up in trouble over the war’s failure and were facing intense scrutiny that might put them in prison

this failure of the war was unpredicted
instead of getting rewards like we were promised, we instead were told we were gonna have to give up a BIG piece of our bizness

literally overnight things changed not only from within but from the outside as well
all my bitcoin transfers to european exchanges were done algorithmically to circumvent “KYC” Know Your Customer” rules, as sanctions were piled on against Russians it became harder and harder to launder the immense amount of bitcoin that we were earning and converting to Euros
while “protection money” kept increasing
as more and more people were being questioned by the FSB, we started to feel like cattle being led to the slaughterhouse
meanwhile Hydra has been shutdown as a result of sanctions, so we'd have to create another darknet from scratch

paranoia is a very contagious virus, I got infected by it, when the people in my clan got it
my daughters ended up marrying within the clan, and later this year, they and their husbands will move to the USA when their husbands visas are approved, meanwhile they are enjoying a Mediterranean beach in Israel

so now, I’m retired, and no longer chase rubles or euros or dollars, and just work on my various research projects derived from material I bought in Russia

let Russians bury the Russians, all those who want to live, should follow me




Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Patagonie on April 29, 2022, 05:07:02 PM
The invasion didn’t come as a surprise, I wrote here about 2 years ago (can’t remember when exactly, and I’m too lazy to search) that the invasion would come at the end of a February, and would be about 250,000 strong, which proved accurate, not a prediction on my part, but a communication from some of “my customers” in regards to how this would effect “bizness”

my clan felt they owed me, after the “accident” my wife had, that was intended for me
and after I was allowed to “clean that up”, it was back to bizness as usual

my clan later agreed to let Digital River buy out our bitcoin mining biz, while we expanded our bizness on Hydra with “THC edibles” that were manufactured in Russia

I setup an operation that chemically transformed pure CBD purchased in Canada to THC Delta-8/9 and made edibles like the one shown here

we had an army of “grafitniki” who spray painted our QR codes all over Moscva
just point your phone’s camera at the QR code and go buy your edibles on Hydra

it made a ton of money, even after paying off everyone!

The war changed this happy little world of ours, the Krisha wanted more, almost all of it actually
and several members of our clan ended up in trouble over the war’s failure and were facing intense scrutiny that might put them in prison

this failure of the war was unpredicted
instead of getting rewards like we were promised, we instead were told we were gonna have to give up a BIG piece of our bizness

literally overnight things changed not only from within but from the outside as well
all my bitcoin transfers to european exchanges were done algorithmically to circumvent “KYC” Know Your Customer” rules, as sanctions were piled on against Russians it became harder and harder to launder the immense amount of bitcoin that we were earning and converting to Euros
while “protection money” kept increasing
as more and more people were being questioned by the FSB, we started to feel like cattle being led to the slaughterhouse
meanwhile Hydra has been shutdown as a result of sanctions, so we'd have to create another darknet from scratch

paranoia is a very contagious virus, I got infected by it, when the people in my clan got it
my daughters ended up marrying within the clan, and later this year, they and their husbands will move to the USA when their husbands visas are approved, meanwhile they are enjoying a Mediterranean beach in Israel

so now, I’m retired, and no longer chase rubles or euros or dollars, and just work on my various research projects derived from material I bought in Russia

let Russians bury the Russians, all those who want to live, should follow me
 
Yes, you talked about invasion a long time ago.
I read attentively what you wrote. Very interesting.
I imagine you took your decision to leave in a few days, correct? 
 
That's the problem of authoritarian and corrupted countries, when you bid high you are always dancing on a rope. 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 29, 2022, 05:53:00 PM
my children decided for me, I'm at the point in my life that I don't much care much about my own future one way or another
I could work with the FSB like Snowden if I had to
I only owe allegiance to my family and my clan, and nothing or no one else
I'm happy to retire now and live a quiet life while the world around me crumbles to dust




Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on April 30, 2022, 02:37:20 AM
Some great posts on here on this subjects, especially Krim. CB comes up with a good one on Serbia I hadn't thought of that, Bosnia etc also. Any country that is a EU member state I wouldn't really bother with though, I'm not saying it can't be done but the women can already travel to a wealthy western nation (aside from UK now) so if they wanted to leave they could have done. Romania, Bulgaria are still fairly poor so it's possible but think odds are likely better elsewhere. Serbia is outside the EU and reasonably close to the UK so worth a thought.

Russia in all my good conscience I don't think I could bring myself to look for a girl there at the moment what Russia is doing in Ukraine is just horrific and it wouldn't feel right to me. Even the Russians that side with Ukraine its gonna get pretty awkward as with what Russia is doing in Ukraine will have a tendency to be seen as being done in the name of all Russians. I personally am glad I am not in contact with any Russians at the moment as there are conversations that I would not like to discuss too much with them I think.

The Stans are likely a good option, like said way less competition. A bit further out for me as a UK guy and would want to check the flight path is well far away than anywhere near the Ukrainian conflict. For me though Ukraine has always grabbed me more than the Stans, never been to the Stans before, more flight cost & time. Meeting a Ukrainian girl in Turkey is a good option that Krim has come up with or possibly just across the border somewhere like Bulgaria or Romania. Remember there are no civilian flights in or out of Ukraine at the moment so it's all land border crossings. It would be easier for a Ukrainian girl to cross the border that a western guy. Ukrainian border guards would want to know what the western guy was crossing for and my guess would be best answer would be either to rescue someone, aid mission, etc. I doubt they would take too kindly to romance as a reason for entry. A lot of border guards may not speak English too well or at all either so that would be a problem if little command of Russian. Added to that is that many areas have a curfew on so being outside will be restricted. Personally I think being in Ukraine at the moment might be a bit too much in the awkward side I would avoid. I'm hoping that the Russians throw in the towel in a few weeks when it has all stalled and then after Ukraine has kicked the Russians out opportunity to get in my present itself.

I've wanted to get over there to live of recent so all this travelling to a third country doesn't really fit in well with knocking out all the reasons for a girl wanting a western guy. That said if I were to meet then a nearby third country would be a better choice than trying a border crossing, etc I think. There's no telling what might go down in Ukraine in future and also how I might be received - as a possible spy, etc.

If Russia were to succeed in Ukraine, eventually, I think Moldova then Georgia would likely be the next targets. After that most likely retaking the Stans. As much as Russia would like the Baltic States back I don't think they would dare attack even if their military wasn't worn down from Ukraine, etc, Any State which is a part of NATO and/or the EU would be too much risk for Russia. NATO and/or the EU would be forced to come defend with its military and would have no choice but to counter any Russian military and nuclear threat with its own, that is a scenario that Russia knows it won't come well off against particularly since they have been struggling in Ukraine.

EU states though I don't think are a great bet to visit for a girl,  what a girl would want would likely all be different. She would probably want a guy who could speak the local language, possibly live locally or provide a pretty wealthy lifestyle. I just don't think they see the need to go for a western guy as much unless maybe they aren't the best of the bunch around.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: 2tallbill on April 30, 2022, 09:29:18 AM
A little over 50% of Russians support the invasion of Ukraine (unofficially, official support is much higher), so stating Russians "don't want this war" is a little disingenuous.


Russian citizens continue to protest war with Ukraine despite threat of punishment
http://www.npr.org/2022/03/20/1087766146/russian-citizens-continue-to-protest-war-with-ukraine-despite-threat-of-punishme
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on April 30, 2022, 03:47:19 PM
excrement is about to hit the reciprocating cooling device in Russia
it'd be unwise to stand in front of it
just sayin...
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on April 30, 2022, 04:01:00 PM

Russian citizens continue to protest war with Ukraine despite threat of punishment
http://www.npr.org/2022/03/20/1087766146/russian-citizens-continue-to-protest-war-with-ukraine-despite-threat-of-punishme

That doesn’t change the fact that over 50% of Russians support the war. Those willing to protest are a tiny minority. I salute their bravery. I know I would not be able to do that.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on May 01, 2022, 11:23:25 AM
I may be new to the forum, but I’m not new to women. )

That cutie in the picture may want to do all the housework while rocking my mind in bed and cooking my favorite foods, but she also may expect a more modern give and take.

The 27 year old Russian I dated did. She’s a doctor from Penza, so she is used to a modern life, but so did my 45-year-old Slovakian ex-girlfriend, who grew up under communism, and the 38 year old from Kyrgyzstan I talked to recently who’s dealt with sexism her whole life.

I’m not going to complain if that beauty feels fulfilled in that role, but I know individual differences exist despite the FSUW stereotypes.

I still might risk rocket fire for her, though. )))
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on May 01, 2022, 11:49:49 AM
FSU wimmin are domestic goddesses compared to American ones
I like the orderly environment they create, and it depends on their background
I've dated younger Russian wimmin who came from a  privileged background
and their behavior is more in line with American wimmin

my wife came from a poor working class background
she has a very strong work ethic
and is devoted to her family and her house
I am the one who has the privileged life now

life was even better when our children lived with us
our oldest daughter was a very talented chef
who made all my favorites

my mornings begin with putting on freshly laundered and ironed clothes
sitting on my chair in the back porch reading from my tablet
while my wife brings me coffee and breakfast
it's a man's life here in Texas

BTW, IF Pootin DOES declare war on Ukraine in the next few weeks, I'd stay far, far away!


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: 2tallbill on May 01, 2022, 12:12:32 PM
I’m not going to complain if that beauty feels fulfilled in that role, but I know individual differences exist despite the FSUW stereotypes.

Absolutely. There are FSU girls who can sing like Angels and there are FSU girls
that makes the dog cry when they sing. There are FSU girls who can whip up a
feast with whatever is left over in the Fridge and their are FSU girls who use a
smoke detector as a cooking timer. There are FSU girls who can do advanced
calculus in their heads and their are girls who have to take off their shoes if
they need to count higher than ten.

There are FSU girls who would never cheat you out of a single kopeck and
there are FSU girls who would harvest your organs for a new pair of boots. 

They have every variety. Cue up the Armor Hotdogs song


There is every single type of woman in the FSU.
They have shorty's, Amazons, fat ones, cRaZy ones, sweet ones,
onery ones, stubborn ones. You name it you can find it. 


http://youtu.be/Pzmk5RbS8eg?t=73
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on May 01, 2022, 12:23:41 PM
Beel is right!

I am partial to "village girls" as opposed to urban raised
village girls are unsophisticated (but not stupid) and village life requires a lot of hard labor
so they're not going to be lazy

plus, they will be BLOWN AWAY by American wealth
when my wife first came to America, we drove out in the country and she saw a simple farm house with TWO CHICKENS in the front yard
her jaw dropped, and she said, "I knew Americans were rich, but NOT THIS RICH!" :)
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: 2tallbill on May 01, 2022, 12:56:10 PM
plus, they will be BLOWN AWAY by American wealth
when my wife first came to America, we drove out in the country and she saw a simple farm house with TWO CHICKENS in the front yard
her jaw dropped, and she said, "I knew Americans were rich, but NOT THIS RICH!" :)

Hahaha!

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/Q7ozWVYCR0nyW2rvPW/200w.gif)

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Grumpy on May 01, 2022, 05:46:55 PM
my children decided for me, I'm at the point in my life that I don't much care much about my own future one way or another
I could work with the FSB like Snowden if I had to
I only owe allegiance to my family and my clan, and nothing or no one else
I'm happy to retire now and live a quiet life while the world around me crumbles to dust

Better study http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tngubhsEp9o   Grandkids will soon have you playing the Bear character. I have been playing this role frequently lately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvSEuHms5M
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on May 01, 2022, 06:42:02 PM
My kids have their own destiny now, their own path
with each passing day, they need me less and less
I have great pride in them, but even greater sorrow in having to let go of them
such is life
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: civi68 on May 03, 2022, 05:28:31 AM
Another thing to consider is how many Ukrainian women will build a life in another European country and find a man there. As women get settled into where they are living, they will start to get out and socialize. Attractive ones will become popular quickly. So, visiting a girl currently living in Europe would include competition from local men. I suspect we will hear stories of local men marrying Ukrainian women and women not returning to Ukraine.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ML on May 03, 2022, 07:47:33 AM
Another thing to consider is how many Ukrainian women will build a life in another European country and find a man there. As women get settled into where they are living, they will start to get out and socialize. Attractive ones will become popular quickly. So, visiting a girl currently living in Europe would include competition from local men. I suspect we will hear stories of local men marrying Ukrainian women and women not returning to Ukraine.

Yes, all very unfortunate for the future of Ukraine.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: 2tallbill on May 03, 2022, 10:13:00 AM
I would go to one of the Stans, they have plenty of hot Russian
women there. The ethnically Russian women generally don't
want to marry a Muslim Asian man who is shorter than them.

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on May 03, 2022, 10:33:28 AM
a lot of Russians have fled Kazakhstan, the population used to be almsot half Russian, now it's maybe 1 out of 5
some are mixed race girls
and a lot who are pure Kazak
you can tell by appearance

a lot are Muslim, but not in a fundamentalist way, may bother some people
they are the MOST SEXUALLY AGRRESIVE wimmin I have ever met
which freaked me out and made me paranoid, cuz I at first thought "they were playing me" for some kinda setup
but nope, turns out that's nomal there
so don't act "all judgental" about wimmin you've dated a couple of times, trying to "turn you on" by spotaneously showing you their "junk"
just enjoy the treat and don't be paranoid!

For all you “novices” out there…
get an HPV vaccine, and read a book called “She Comes First” search on google
in the ‘stans, NONE of the local guys will do this…
when she flashes her junk and toned thighs, don’t sit there like a flabbergasted idiot
use the techniques from this book
then, if you ever need a kidney transplant, she’ll immediately give you one of hers
they’re that appreciative…

my favs, are the mixed race girls, because some are really exotic and hot looking (brunettes with light eyes, pale skin, and high cheekbones)
and I'm from am ethnically "mixed" background myself
these wimmin are warm and friendly, and will be really intrigued by the right kind of foreign guy
little competition, either from locals or other foreigners


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Grumpy on May 03, 2022, 07:04:18 PM
Another thing to consider is how many Ukrainian women will build a life in another European country and find a man there. As women get settled into where they are living, they will start to get out and socialize. Attractive ones will become popular quickly. So, visiting a girl currently living in Europe would include competition from local men. I suspect we will hear stories of local men marrying Ukrainian women and women not returning to Ukraine.

Given the large number of refugees in Germany, kraut-istan may be the place to visit if you can out compete the locals. 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on May 03, 2022, 07:52:32 PM
If I were a younger, single dewd, I’d investigate taking some time off and working as a volunteer in some area with a high density of refugees in Poland….

You can not only lend a sympathetic shoulder to some poor young Ukrainian sweety, but also Polish girls ain’t too shabby!!

Polish sounds a lot like Russian to me, so I can kinda understand them

but seriously the best path available for “top level” guys, with some brains and $$$, is the medical school in Ternopil, which is taught in English!  Easy peasy for a foreigner to register there, no entrance exam, and it does provide a medical degree that when you take the appropriate tests can be used in the USA

A foreign medical student, would get lots of practice in the science of gynecology there
pooty tang paradise
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ML on May 07, 2022, 11:49:22 AM
A foreign medical student, would get lots of practice in the science of gynecology there

Which could be a turn-off.

You know the story:  Male gynecologist comes home to find his wife waiting naked for him.

His response:  Cover it up !!

Another story:
Pathologist and gynecologist go out for lunch together.
The pathologist says:  Ah . . . nice to see alive people.
Gynecologist says:      Ah . . . nice to see faces.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on May 07, 2022, 12:24:51 PM
Seriously?
The sight of a young coed’s junk, a turn-off?
not in my universe
I was always partial to its initial revealing
and would always take a moment to pause and appreciate

here's a Russian Romantic Comedy to help sooth your junk anxiety


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKvP4UDN2Yw

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: oktav86 on May 11, 2022, 07:10:33 AM
I'm wondering what to do now since I'm jumping back into the FSU.

You can still get flights into Russia by going through Turkey, but I honestly wouldn't feel safe going there with the anti-Western climate. I also have no clue if Russians can even visit the USA. I'm sure Ukranians could.

I've been on fdating and I get messaged by Ukrainian girls who tell me they literally hear bombs going off everyday near them. Most that I've been messaged by haven't fled the country. So I honestly have no clue what to even do with that.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on May 11, 2022, 07:32:02 AM
I guess I’m at the age where I’m less concerned over dying from “misadventure” than I am of dying from boredom…

Visiting Ukraine during war time, is just an “added bonus” to the usual rewards of the trip

you COULD strike up an online relationship with someone on a border city like Uzhhorod or Izmail
and travel to Slovakia or Romania first, then go to Ukraine by road (avoiding airports, train depots, etc)
This minimizes your exposure to Russian weapons while it maximizes your adventure

'yo dawg!
You will get ALL THE POOTY TANG!
ALL OF IT!!
The wimmin will totally want to "give it up" to a Western savior who can save THEM!
word!
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 26, 2022, 03:31:02 PM
I guess I’m at the age where I’m less concerned over dying from “misadventure” than I am of dying from boredom…

Visiting Ukraine during war time, is just an “added bonus” to the usual rewards of the trip

you COULD strike up an online relationship with someone on a border city like Uzhhorod or Izmail
and travel to Slovakia or Romania first, then go to Ukraine by road (avoiding airports, train depots, etc)
This minimizes your exposure to Russian weapons while it maximizes your adventure

'yo dawg!
You will get ALL THE POOTY TANG!
ALL OF IT!!
The wimmin will totally want to "give it up" to a Western savior who can save THEM!
word!

Even with all the war stuff going on in Ukraine I'm convinced there is some sex tourist there getting some :P lol

My guess would be to go by flight to Moldova from Luton in the UK, Wizz Air do cheap flights there. Moldova is real near Ukraine but not in war. Then for those that wish, not me personally, just go by road towards Odesa. Personally I would be happy to stick to Moldova as it could be a pain going somewhere without domestic flights nearby.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on June 26, 2022, 04:13:08 PM
"Even with all the war stuff going on in Ukraine I'm convinced there is some sex tourist there getting some :P lol"


Damn straight THERE IS, but remember Trench, we NEVER say those words here, cuz that’s not who we are, right?   didn’t you get the memo?

You could do just fine, in Kishinev with no real worries

Odesa has  SOME issues, reduced restaurant, store hours, inventory issues, etc, the ODD missile now and then...

but…
no competition, cuz it’s MUCH harder for average dumb phuque tourist to get there safely by car than by air
but, it’s not hard at all to arrange for a local uber driver equivalent to cross through a southern Moldova/Ukraine checkpoint
they are everywhere in the airport parking lot in Kishinev, you could even set things up to stay in Kishinev before you go
or when you come back
you could set this up in 10 min with the army of drivers in the airport parking lot, pay driver a deposit, or just go straight away, however you want and get his phone #
I’d start negotiations at $300 for one way
you might be better off getting a Ukrainian driver for the return trip, and let your moldovan driver search for passengers for his return trip from Ukraine to Moldova,  AND Trench…
if you meet a couple of sweet lookin Ukrainian girls who want to run to Moldova
you could give them a ride with you, buddy!!
then a couple of miles outside Odesa, you say, “gas” or “ass” in Russian:  "d'vai gaz ili zhopa"
fer sure, it’s gonna be ass/zhopa!!
what a STUD move!!
make a youtube video out of it and profit!!!
turn your life around Trench, be de man!!

Trench. I hope my words inspire you to be the BEST YOU and not a MEDIOCRE YOU, it's never too late to recast yourself
your biggest impediment are the conclusions you've already formed in regards to living your life, that are MOSTLY WRONG!!!!
and as a result you made a shitload of bad mistakes with your life, and so now "here you are"

Trench,
my wife owns 3 skin care salons, and makes many times what you make
why couldn't you find the same kind of women
and just kick back, bruv!

I suspect you CAN'T find such a woman, and there's a reason WHY you can't
and whatever that reason is,
this is what's screwing you up, man

do YOU at least SEE and UNDERSTAND what THAT THING is Trench?






Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 26, 2022, 11:50:10 PM
"Even with all the war stuff going on in Ukraine I'm convinced there is some sex tourist there getting some :P lol"


Damn straight THERE IS, but remember Trench, we NEVER say those words here, cuz that’s not who we are, right?   didn’t you get the memo?

You could do just fine, in Kishinev with no real worries

Odesa has  SOME issues, reduced restaurant, store hours, inventory issues, etc, the ODD missile now and then...

but…
no competition, cuz it’s MUCH harder for average dumb phuque tourist to get there safely by car than by air
but, it’s not hard at all to arrange for a local uber driver equivalent to cross through a southern Moldova/Ukraine checkpoint
they are everywhere in the airport parking lot in Kishinev, you could even set things up to stay in Kishinev before you go
or when you come back
you could set this up in 10 min with the army of drivers in the airport parking lot, pay driver a deposit, or just go straight away, however you want and get his phone #
I’d start negotiations at $300 for one way
you might be better off getting a Ukrainian driver for the return trip, and let your moldovan driver search for passengers for his return trip from Ukraine to Moldova,  AND Trench…
if you meet a couple of sweet lookin Ukrainian girls who want to run to Moldova
you could give them a ride with you, buddy!!
then a couple of miles outside Odesa, you say, “gas” or “ass” in Russian:  "d'vai gaz ili zhopa"
fer sure, it’s gonna be ass/zhopa!!
what a STUD move!!
make a youtube video out of it and profit!!!
turn your life around Trench, be de man!!

Trench. I hope my words inspire you to be the BEST YOU and not a MEDIOCRE YOU, it's never too late to recast yourself
your biggest impediment are the conclusions you've already formed in regards to living your life, that are MOSTLY WRONG!!!!
and as a result you made a shitload of bad mistakes with your life, and so now "here you are"

Trench,
my wife owns 3 skin care salons, and makes many times what you make
why couldn't you find the same kind of women
and just kick back, bruv!

I suspect you CAN'T find such a woman, and there's a reason WHY you can't
and whatever that reason is,
this is what's screwing you up, man

do YOU at least SEE and UNDERSTAND what THAT THING is Trench?

Yeah I see what you're saying Krim is be the man, the head honcho then all the women follow you and are less trouble and more fun. That's definitely where I am directing myself now.

I think girls out there see such a guy as admirable, maybe not quite an Oligarch but on the scale above the rest, so they will seek to please such a guy.

I may be starting from a small acorn here but what I think a lot of members on this forum don't see is that I have the potential to turn that small acorn into something big. That's what I think some members are lacking here even some of those that have been so called 'successful' in this venture. Some of the guys here I get the impression have taken the first woman that has accepted them and is legit and sweep her off her feet back to their domestic abode. It does it for them but it's not really pushing the boat out as far as the opportunities in the FSU allow on the female front. That's what I think is great about you Krim is that you're always looking to see how much further you can venture out there and add to your life and not just settle for what is as is.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on June 27, 2022, 07:59:10 AM
Trench,

I picture you as the son of a working class family from a small town the West Midlands…
your family was nearly at the bottom of the British “Pecking Order”
and you were bullied for it as a kid by rich kids

you grew up with out a lot of social contact
and as a result, you tend to daydream a lot

is this you?

Are you a daydream believer Trench, or a man of action?
You have to one or the other, but you have to give over your entire life to it
no playing safe
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ML on June 27, 2022, 08:28:21 AM
Trench,

I picture you as the son of a working class family from a small town the West Midlands…
your family was nearly at the bottom of the British “Pecking Order”
and you were bullied for it as a kid by rich kids

you grew up with out a lot of social contact
and as a result, you tend to daydream a lot

Wow, psychoanalysis a new feature on RWD !

I hope it is free.

I remember quite awhile back a member was able to diagnose illness of another member by his face color in a picture.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on June 27, 2022, 09:06:05 AM
YES, the Doctor is in!!
in a democratic socialist European country
all health care service is free
including mental health

however, the system is VERY inefficient
so most residents of western countries
will also seek second opinions from the internet

I'm really sorry, but our time appears to be up for today
but I think your're making progress
good luck with the Nitrogen, but would seriously urge you to choose Helium instead, so you can make funny voices!!!
just think about it, OK?



Title: Nitrogen for ending life
Post by: ML on June 27, 2022, 03:11:50 PM
Nitrogen has at least two advantages over Helium for ending life.

1. Suppliers often put quite a bit of oxygen in Helium tanks.
2. I can't remember second advantage right now.

Aside from ending life, Nitrogen cannot ever be detected in the corpse.  Handy if you want to avoid a finding of suicide if insurance involved, etc.  Of course someone would have to remove mask and tank before authorities arrived.

Note:  Nitrogen is an entirely painless way to die.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 28, 2022, 03:22:52 AM
Trench,

I picture you as the son of a working class family from a small town the West Midlands…
your family was nearly at the bottom of the British “Pecking Order”
and you were bullied for it as a kid by rich kids

you grew up with out a lot of social contact
and as a result, you tend to daydream a lot

is this you?

Are you a daydream believer Trench, or a man of action?
You have to one or the other, but you have to give over your entire life to it
no playing safe

That's pretty close Krim lol. I wasn't born in the West Midlands but one side of my family was originally from there. I was born in southern England though, not rich but living and brought up in a very middle class area. So while not the poorest of the poor, poor by comparison to most other kids.

I see what you are saying, I am willing to be a man of action and will be soon. I do, do some of the stuff I say, some stuff I'm just turning over in my mind and weighing up if it's a good idea. At the moment I'm finishing off my house, as much as I would like to drop it and do something I can't until it's done or I would be screwing myself over. It's getting there, hardest bits nearly over with now and just a bit of light finishing work on the horizon. So in about a month or so I'll be about done. At that point I'll hopefully get in before the new student year begins in September and rent out a couple of rooms to students. They are really the target group I am after to rent out to as it means I pay less council tax and they have student loans, grants, etc so in theory are good for the rent money.

My hope is to finish a fair time before mid-late September when the students go back, have the rental all lined up to them and get out to Moldova for at least a few days as a break & meet up with a few girls :)

I really want to be able to live there on an on & off basis in the near future but have to make sure my finances are stable before doing that, as I have a bit of money on credit from doing all the work, etc.

I am however though about to jump into action ;)
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: RussianWomenOnly on June 28, 2022, 09:52:12 AM
Hello everyone,

I am a new member and the reason I became a member is because I want to date a Russian girl. I have read a lot about horror stories where there are a lot of fake profiles on these online sites such as Russiancupid, Anastasia.com, etc, etc.  But I have also read a few success stories where western men was able to find a beautiful Russian girl that isn't out to get their money. Therefore, I am really interested to find a forum, website, where I can meet girls. I want to be able to talk to her on the phone or do skype/zoom video chats.  The success stories usually start out people (men) communicating through phone/text/chats with the women and then visiting Russia and meet them. 

Is there any good information or advice?  Thanks to all in advance. 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on June 28, 2022, 10:15:01 AM
if you meet a couple of sweet lookin Ukrainian girls who want to run to Moldova
you could give them a ride with you, buddy!!
then a couple of miles outside Odesa, you say, “gas” or “ass” in Russian:  "d'vai gaz ili zhopa"
fer sure, it’s gonna be ass/zhopa!!
what a STUD move!!
make a youtube video out of it and profit!!!
turn your life around Trench, be de man!!
[/quote]

I started this particular thread, and I appreciate most of the ideas. But this right here is not okay, Krim. Telling a woman she has to have sex with me to finish leaving a war zone, at the last minute, when I’ve already offered her a ride?

That’s not a stud move. It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”

http://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion

Women who have been sexually coerced experience anxiety, depression, and PTSD at the same rate as women who have been violently raped.

Why would you think it is OK to do that to a woman, let alone someone who is fleeing a war zone?

Is this what RWD supports?






Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on June 28, 2022, 10:41:08 AM
“It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”



well, when you say it, it SOUNDS LIKE A BAD THING, too bad the US Gov doesn't have juristiction in either Moldova or Ukraine, where you can do WTF you want!!!

and BTW, how is it coercion, if they say Nyet, I just freakin open the door and let them out
but, if you do it right, 9 times out of 10, they'll say "da"

How do I know this?
take a guess?

I got ALL the pooty-tang in Ukraine I WANTED, ALL OF IT, and you ain't got NONE of that!
and YOU trying to tell me what's "right" and "what's wrong"
is freakin HILARIOUS!!! cuz it's based on your VAST EXPERIENCE, which is essentially ZERO!
 
I employ “sexual coercion” as you call it, so that later, women will reciprocate and engage in “Female Domination” WITH ME! and then I become their “sub”
being a NAKED KGB prisoner being "sexually tortured", during interrogation, by a tall woman in a dark uniform is MY FAVORITE!!

but, are you worried if I’m coerced by a tall woman wearing a dark uniform into revealing NATO's secret plans?
HELL NO!
that’s awfully SEXIST of you!
not to mention puritanical as well
so, that’s “cultural appropriation” as well, unless your ancestors landed on Plymouth Rock
instead of having Plymouth Rock land on them

and lastly, why the HELL is my sex life ANY of YOUR FREAKIN BUSINESS
who are you, the pope?

and if you’re NOT the Pope, then I assume your negative response is based on nothing more than simple jealousy, cuz I get to “expand my sexuality”, into the darker corners of my mind
and you’re stuck at watching porn and jerking-off into your tiny little jerk-off napkin!!
Ewwwwwww!

PS,
you are SO GREEN, you must be some kinda mutant photosynthsizing human hybrid
A Ukrainian woman would devour someone like you so damned fast in one way or another, that it'd blow your mind
my advice, stick with the girls in your bible study group, even if they're freakin ugly, cuz they're on the same wavelength as you!!
but if you're UGLY to, well then you're screwed, buy a dog


 


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Davo on June 28, 2022, 01:55:46 PM
Hello everyone,

I am a new member and the reason I became a member is because I want to date a Russian girl. I have read a lot about horror stories where there are a lot of fake profiles on these online sites such as Russiancupid, Anastasia.com, etc, etc.  But I have also read a few success stories where western men was able to find a beautiful Russian girl that isn't out to get their money. Therefore, I am really interested to find a forum, website, where I can meet girls. I want to be able to talk to her on the phone or do skype/zoom video chats.  The success stories usually start out people (men) communicating through phone/text/chats with the women and then visiting Russia and meet them.


Is there any good information or advice?  Thanks to all in advance.

A good starting point are the dating sites DM notify (monthly subscription) and Fdating (free)..... Watch out for email scammers who will give you every excuse under the sun not to call and video chat......Set yourself up with WhatsApp, most FSU women prefer to move to this app to chat..... ATM Qatar airlines are flying to Moscow and Turkish airlines fly to Sochi, but you’ll have to catch a train from Sochi to the woman you’re meeting because there’s a no fly zone down south.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 28, 2022, 02:48:22 PM
if you meet a couple of sweet lookin Ukrainian girls who want to run to Moldova
you could give them a ride with you, buddy!!
then a couple of miles outside Odesa, you say, “gas” or “ass” in Russian:  "d'vai gaz ili zhopa"
fer sure, it’s gonna be ass/zhopa!!
what a STUD move!!
make a youtube video out of it and profit!!!
turn your life around Trench, be de man!!


I started this particular thread, and I appreciate most of the ideas. But this right here is not okay, Krim. Telling a woman she has to have sex with me to finish leaving a war zone, at the last minute, when I’ve already offered her a ride?

That’s not a stud move. It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”

http://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion

Women who have been sexually coerced experience anxiety, depression, and PTSD at the same rate as women who have been violently raped.

Why would you think it is OK to do that to a woman, let alone someone who is fleeing a war zone?

Is this what RWD supports?

Krim's right. You may go to Ukraine for sex tourism or for a long term relationship/marriage. Either way Ukraine is not the west thankfully. It's why we/I go there, it's not really about RWD supporting sex tourism it apparently doesn't RWD is apparently for those seeking a LTR/Marriage. However the culture out in Ukraine is what it is. I'm not saying all Ukrainian chicks are up for casual sex some are the more moralistic types, etc but Krim understands better than most of us about Ukrainian culture. Krim has lived out there extensively and is pretty much embroiled with it all.

My understanding is less as I haven't got that experience but I would say what I have learnt is that forget western culture when it comes to Ukraine. Ukraine, Russia, etc don't have a culture where they think like us or have our values. The ideas you express like coercion, etc in the western sense of it being a bad thing doesn't really exist in the FSU, not in the moralistic we hold it in at least. So the values we hold isn't the values they hold, some may be totally alien to them and weird sounding. Honestly, it's what I have come to like about Ukraine & the FSU. I personally can't stand all the bs that they waffle on about these days in the west. It's got too much and gone over the top so for me it's great to have a society without all of that. For me it usually takes me a while to detox from western society when first getting back to Ukraine, etc as I really I land with a lot of western values hammered into me that just don't hold in the FSU. So Ukraine really is a place to relax and let it all hang out. That's as I see it anyway.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 28, 2022, 03:06:50 PM
Hello everyone,

I am a new member and the reason I became a member is because I want to date a Russian girl. I have read a lot about horror stories where there are a lot of fake profiles on these online sites such as Russiancupid, Anastasia.com, etc, etc.  But I have also read a few success stories where western men was able to find a beautiful Russian girl that isn't out to get their money. Therefore, I am really interested to find a forum, website, where I can meet girls. I want to be able to talk to her on the phone or do skype/zoom video chats.  The success stories usually start out people (men) communicating through phone/text/chats with the women and then visiting Russia and meet them. 

Is there any good information or advice?  Thanks to all in advance.

If you literally mean a Russian girl as in going to Russia then from some countries you'll need a visa. Why it's handy to put the flag of where you're from on your profile and telling the forum some info about yourself so members can better assist you.

I would also support Fdate & DMnotify as a good place for new starters, they are free and the girls do their own profiles. A few fake profiles but you get that everywhere, normally they will either ask for money or try and take you over to a PPL (Pay Per Letter) site relatively early in messaging as it's money what they are after.

If you go for a girl who is everyday average looking or less then you likely won't have much problem. All depends what you want?
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on June 29, 2022, 09:11:12 AM
the rise in the number of covid-19 cases correlates to the amount of international air traffic

just look at the chart, and look at the drop-off for Russia after bi-directional travel restrictions, while popular European destinations show a sharp rise in Covid-19

so what does this tell you, fellow intrepid traveler?

As someone who had covid 6 months ago and was 2X2 vaccinated
I can tell you that the only reason that I am alive right now, and THANKFULLY able to abuse you is BECAUSE I had the freaking vaccines

even with that, I was REALLY sick for about a week,
and slowly improved in the second week

you would NOT want to have this happen to you in an FSU country, unless you have lots of euros or dollars in CASH!

YET, you ARE going into one of the worst spots for getting infected
the military equivalent of this called “Being On The Front Line”

so ya better be sure about what yur doin
or “what yur doin will end up doing you”

I would freakin NOT want to have covid “over there”
have you guys EVER been inside a Ukrainian or Russian Hospitals
the first thing you notice is the paint peeling off the walls and laying on the cement floor”
it looks like a freakin Stalingrad field hospital!!
you ACTUALLY have to bring YOUR OWN SUPPLY OF NEEDLES and let staff use them on you
OR
they will re-use from last patient, and SWEAR at you
So imagine having Covid and feel like you might be dying in the first couple of days of the illness (if you're lucky)
and being HERE

'ya feel me?



Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 29, 2022, 05:08:22 PM
the rise in the number of covid-19 cases correlates to the amount of international air traffic

just look at the chart, and look at the drop-off for Russia after bi-directional travel restrictions, while popular European destinations show a sharp rise in Covid-19

so what does this tell you, fellow intrepid traveler?

As someone who had covid 6 months ago and was 2X2 vaccinated
I can tell you that the only reason that I am alive right now, and THANKFULLY able to abuse you is BECAUSE I had the freaking vaccines

even with that, I was REALLY sick for about a week,
and slowly improved in the second week

you would NOT want to have this happen to you in an FSU country, unless you have lots of euros or dollars in CASH!

YET, you ARE going into one of the worst spots for getting infected
the military equivalent of this called “Being On The Front Line”

so ya better be sure about what yur doin
or “what yur doin will end up doing you”

I would freakin NOT want to have covid “over there”
have you guys EVER been inside a Ukrainian or Russian Hospitals
the first thing you notice is the paint peeling off the walls and laying on the cement floor”
it looks like a freakin Stalingrad field hospital!!
you ACTUALLY have to bring YOUR OWN SUPPLY OF NEEDLES and let staff use them on you
OR
they will re-use from last patient, and SWEAR at you
So imagine having Covid and feel like you might be dying in the first couple of days of the illness (if you're lucky)
and being HERE

'ya feel me?

Interesting thing with the stats is that once again Eastern Europe has much less of an infection rate than the rest of the world. So in theory once there, assuming you didn't catch it whilst in travel once in a country such as Moldova in theory less risk than in a western country, that's with only about a quarter of their population vaccinated.

I get what you're saying Krim that if you had it while over there the health care system isn't where you'd want to be. If it were me I would either see if I was up to getting a flight back or if not just crash back in the hotel/apartment. I personally would rather avoid the hospital and either I'lld make it or I wouldn't. No one lives forever if you'd ever want to, at my age I've spent my younger years so checking out isn't the worst time if it came to that. That or the way this virus is sit out life spending years if not all you're life not doing much, at least not with a woman.

Myself will be a good few weeks before the Moldova thing comes about anyway so see how things sit then but think I would rather risk it soon than be stuck on the fence forever more.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on June 29, 2022, 05:37:09 PM
based on my experience, make sure your VAX is up to date
other than flying, which you can't avoid
i'd reduce my exposure to crowds
I'll be flying soon myself, just not to FSU
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on June 30, 2022, 04:00:14 PM
based on my experience, make sure your VAX is up to date
other than flying, which you can't avoid
i'd reduce my exposure to crowds
I'll be flying soon myself, just not to FSU

Yeah that's the little fly in the ointment. Thing is I don't want a mRNA vaccine but at the moment that's all they do in the UK, Ireland is much the same and rest of Europe would probably have to prove your a resident. Even in the US I see from news articles that the J&J vaccine has been knocked on the head somewhat. Meanwhile the Astra Zeneca vaccine I had originally seems to have been bought out by all th we poor countries in the world. Valneva was in the process of doing a new non-mRNA vaccine but both the UK & EU have dropped their contracts to buy any though they are nearing end of clinical trials and approval now. Last news from a week or two back is that Valneva may ditch their vaccine as a result of their vaccine contracts being scrapped. Whether the current upsurge in cases may change that who knows. I think it was supposed to be a multi-variant vaccine so possibly with nearing end of clinical trials with apparently good results and with UK and/or EU regulator approval matters may change. My guess is that with Valneva having invested so much in it unless there is a real problem with the vaccine they may press on now that it is so near completion of the process. The upsurge in virus cases would give cause for optimism that new contracts may be given to supply the UK/EU.

That for me looks like the only hope so far is to see if the Valneva one comes up. Earlier in the year the UK media were saying that the gov were considering taking it on for those that did not want the mRNA vaccines, that looked less likely recently possibly but with the new upsurge in cases I reckon it could become a possibility. Anyhow that's about where I'm at the moment, think I'm best of waiting and sitting it out a good few weeks longer and seeing what transpires.
Title: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: 2tallbill on July 02, 2022, 10:53:45 AM
I am going to wait since who knows where this will end up.

There is a mountain of inertia finding and marrying a woman from the FSU.
The war and pandemic creates additional paralysis.

I don't know your specific situation. So my advice is general for everybody.
Get on a freaking plane and seduce the delightful Daria while Joe Sixpack
is sitting at home alone spanking his monkey. Steal a smoking hot woman
from one of those keyboard Romeos


Fortune favors the bold, especially with FSUW!!

If you are worried about Ukraine or Russia travel to Minsk or Chisinau
or Almaty.

Ask yourself would you rather watch another series on Netflix or help
Sweety-Buns-Sveta get out of her bikini bottoms? None of the sexy girls
in Karagandy are going to kiss themselves. Somebody has to do it, why
not you?

Title: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: 2tallbill on July 02, 2022, 11:13:59 AM
Another thing to consider is how many Ukrainian women will build a life in another European country and find a man there. As women get settled into where they are living, they will start to get out and socialize. Attractive ones will become popular quickly. So, visiting a girl currently living in Europe would include competition from local men. I suspect we will hear stories of local men marrying Ukrainian women and women not returning to Ukraine.

I'm not doing a Moby following you around.

My theory is that nobody should care about the 1.5 billion Chinese women
who aren't going to marry you. There are always going to be a large group
of women who aren't going to rip off their clothes and roll around with you.

In my opinion, men should spend most of their time finding the girls who
might rip off their clothes and engage in rolling around.

The more sand and gravel you sort through the more gold you will find.

Udachi!

Bill
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 02, 2022, 12:35:36 PM
You mean guys lookin for an economical shortcut to meeting Ukrainian women,  can’t just pay $10 to an “agency” and send a few emails
and this will immediately lead to a gorgeous super model Ukrainian woman showing up at their door with their suitcase,
and with a sign in English that says, “will work AND have sex for food”

Once thse guys find this out, they’re gonna be majorly disappointed and will ask for their $10 back

these dewds think someone is bisexual, if they’re ambidextrous, and can switch hands for self-gratification

sad...
Title: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: 2tallbill on July 02, 2022, 02:52:07 PM
You mean guys lookin for an economical shortcut to meeting Ukrainian women,  can’t just pay $10 to an “agency” and send a few emails
and this will immediately lead to a gorgeous super model Ukrainian woman showing up at their door with their suitcase,
and with a sign in English that says, “will work AND have sex for food”

Once thse guys find this out, they’re gonna be majorly disappointed and will ask for their $10 back

these dewds think someone is bisexual, if they’re ambidextrous, and can switch hands for self-gratification

sad...

Step 1. I pull out the photo of my electric can opener from my modern
kitchen and the Slavic girls all get butterflies in their hoo-hah just thinking
of how jealous their girl friends will be. 

2. I pull out the photo of my Mom's double wide with the bitchin above
ground pool as they imagine how they won't have any tan lines if they
float on my official #88 CAR NASCAR air mattress with the built in Piva
holder.

3. I flash my blue passport


4. I never have to go to  step 4 because the first three steps are lady
killerz.

My Real point is the sooner you get on a plane and win a girls heart, 
the sooner the carpel tunnel wrist injury goes away.

Udachi!

Bill
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 02, 2022, 03:44:01 PM
What I'm about to say isn't the easiest thing to say given the situation out in Ukraine. In fact it sounds pretty bad saying it given all the suffering out there but is nonetheless more or less a fact or is becoming one. The unfortunate reality of war is that soldiers get killed, way over 90 percent of those soldiers will be men, perhaps as high as 98-99 percent. That misery though will of course in purely statistical terms mean that there will likely be less men to women as a result. It's not something I am hankering on in terms of finding a woman but it is likely to be a reality nonetheless.

The MOB industry over in Ukraine & Russia as we know always used to push out the boat on their being more women to men/not enough men to lure in the western guy. The statistics though as has been brought up on here before didn't really hold that statement to be true on pure statistical terms - at least not until older age in men & women. Now though the MOB industry might actually get some bare statistical truth behind that claim. In the past it was really more that even a western guy who in the west didn't come across all that well to western women could come out on top and as 2tallbill previously explained behind the statistics many local guys just weren't up to it, they could be drug addicts, alcoholics, in jail, unemployed, too low income, too dumb, too bad mentally, etc, etc - some could apply to women as well but odds are men in greater number.

Now of course though in Ukraine men are being lost daily and the monthly figure is likely to be reasonably large. We don't really know the actual figure but it is almost certainly thousands. By the end of the year if it carries on that long it could be what say a good 100,000 soldiers lost on both sides of the conflict, maybe more even. In addition to that of course there are going to the those guys who are badly maimed. Odds are in most cases a girl will regard them as no good as a partner. Ukraine & Russia as we know don't have a good welfare state and if those men can't work/find work they will be regarded as like picking up hot coal by their womenfolk.

So on a purely statistical basis the odds are likely to favour western men going forward. The guy is still best of trying to find the best woman for him and being the best man he can be but the FSW also has the reality of needing a good provider out there and that looks harder to come by for them going forward. Sure there are women that will go into the EU and try and make a go of things there but that won't suit all Ukrainian women. Add to that, that so far this conflict has only affected a handful of Ukrainian cities real bad, the west and central Ukraine are still largely unaffected so a lot of civilians have not been displaced from their cities in these areas. From speaking to Ukrainian women in the past the one from Mariupol told me that she had no wish to be a refugee, that was years before this present event. So I would say that for the guy wishing to get on a plane (I'm not necessarily advocating to visit Ukraine itself at this point in time) and go there, or near there, then there will likely be plenty of women that will be interested in a western guy. At the end of the day I believe that many FSW are pragmatists, they go with whatever is the best option available to them and everything else gets set aside.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on July 02, 2022, 07:07:15 PM
“It’s sexual coercion, which our own government defines as “unwanted sexual activity that happens when you are pressured, tricked, threatened, or forced in a nonphysical way.”



well, when you say it, it SOUNDS LIKE A BAD THING, too bad the US Gov doesn't have juristiction in either Moldova or Ukraine, where you can do WTF you want!!!

and BTW, how is it coercion, if they say Nyet, I just freakin open the door and let them out
but, if you do it right, 9 times out of 10, they'll say "da"

How do I know this?
take a guess?

I got ALL the pooty-tang in Ukraine I WANTED, ALL OF IT, and you ain't got NONE of that!
and YOU trying to tell me what's "right" and "what's wrong"
is freakin HILARIOUS!!! cuz it's based on your VAST EXPERIENCE, which is essentially ZERO!
 
I employ “sexual coercion” as you call it, so that later, women will reciprocate and engage in “Female Domination” WITH ME! and then I become their “sub”
being a NAKED KGB prisoner being "sexually tortured", during interrogation, by a tall woman in a dark uniform is MY FAVORITE!!

but, are you worried if I’m coerced by a tall woman wearing a dark uniform into revealing NATO's secret plans?
HELL NO!
that’s awfully SEXIST of you!
not to mention puritanical as well
so, that’s “cultural appropriation” as well, unless your ancestors landed on Plymouth Rock
instead of having Plymouth Rock land on them

and lastly, why the HELL is my sex life ANY of YOUR FREAKIN BUSINESS
who are you, the pope?

and if you’re NOT the Pope, then I assume your negative response is based on nothing more than simple jealousy, cuz I get to “expand my sexuality”, into the darker corners of my mind
and you’re stuck at watching porn and jerking-off into your tiny little jerk-off napkin!!
Ewwwwwww!

PS,
you are SO GREEN, you must be some kinda mutant photosynthsizing human hybrid
A Ukrainian woman would devour someone like you so damned fast in one way or another, that it'd blow your mind
my advice, stick with the girls in your bible study group, even if they're freakin ugly, cuz they're on the same wavelength as you!!
but if you're UGLY to, well then you're screwed, buy a dog


So your response to being called out on immoral actions is to

a) brag about your exploits using graphic details,  as you always do
b) attack my sexual reputation without knowing me
c) make ignorant assumptions about my experience with FSW women
d) malign Bible study groups and the women in them.

None of those very transparent strategies changes the fact that using the threat of death (f*** me or I’ll leave you in a war zone) doesn’t make you a player, or a stud, or someone to be admired. It means you don’t believe you can get the same amount of sexual attention just based on your looks and your personality.

Given your immature response to me, I’m starting to understand why!
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 02, 2022, 09:35:16 PM
Morality? to god-damned hell with morality!
I have no morality!
In fact, I don't NEED morality!

cuz on the inside, after living for a total of 6 yrs in Russia/Ukraine
I became just like one of THEM!

So, I don't have to show YOU, any stinking morality,
just like the rest of the Russian/Ukrainian people who were born and live there
DON’T have to show YOU any either!

horrosho, ponelle?

If you saw how Russian men treat women “over there”
you would see that in comparison I’m a “perfect gentleman”

I’m not a member, of your church, nor do I believe in an “invisible Sky Daddy” that lives in the clouds and that you can communicate with telepathically

so YOU take your “Sky Daddy Rules” and YOU go live by them if that’s what YOU want!
OTOH, I choose NOT TO! 
Cuz to me it’s ALL 100% BOGUS!
Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, Sky Daddy and Son of Sky Daddy
all the same to me….

Oh NO!  I don’t want to coerce any women, cuz Santa Claus might not bring me a freakin' present!!
how pathetic and childish is THAT?

My sexual comments “ain’t no brag”, just FACTS
just like your silence on this subject is a FACT as well and the silence is deafening
cuz there’s nothing AT ALL for you to say on this subject!

I notice you didn’t DENY any of what I said about you
just “how could I know”
what better way for you to tell me you’re an incel
then what you wrote in your last post!
with what you reveal about yourself, how could YOU NOT be an incel?

I’ve been married 22 years, and had 2 children with my Ukrainian wife, and my children are now adults and also recently married
so even the babies I used to rock to sleep at bedtime 20 years ago, are WAY ahead of YOU
but sure, you go ahead with dispensing your incredible WISDOM to me and the board

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Chelseaboy on July 03, 2022, 05:28:08 AM

So your response to being called out on immoral actions is to

a) brag about your exploits using graphic details,  as you always do
b) attack my sexual reputation without knowing me
c) make ignorant assumptions about my experience with FSW women
d) malign Bible study groups and the women in them.

None of those very transparent strategies changes the fact that using the threat of death (f*** me or I’ll leave you in a war zone) doesn’t make you a player, or a stud, or someone to be admired. It means you don’t believe you can get the same amount of sexual attention just based on your looks and your personality.

Given your immature response to me, I’m starting to understand why!


Krimster lived in Crimea and has spent time in Russia too.


He knows about Russian and Ukrainian women.


My own experience with the women out there is very limited..just three nights in Kyiv..but even i could see that you need to be very assertive with women out there...you need to act like the man and act cool when you're doing it  8)


Being polite and letting them walk all over you won't cut it.


You mustn't appear cheap,but don't flash the cash either or they'll think you're a mug with money to be taken by them.


Never forget many of the most attractive girls will have been sponsored by wealthy married men..so they don't really have the morals you may have.


Many come from harsh backgrounds so will do whatever it takes to ,in their minds,improve the quality of their life.


The reason why so many western men fail out there with the women is because they cannot change their western mindset which is drummed into us almost from birth.


Some of the things Krimster says might not be for you....we're all different personalities,and he's a bit of a maverick...but instead of getting into insults and arguments with him,use the nuggets of info he gives you that sit ok with you.


2tallbill is another poster who can put you on the right track to success out there.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ML on July 03, 2022, 06:44:30 AM
My own experience with the women out there is very limited . . . just three nights in Kyiv.  But even I could see that you need to be very assertive with women out there . . .you need to act like the man and act cool when you're doing it 

Being polite and letting them walk all over you won't cut it.

You mustn't appear cheap, but don't flash the cash either . . .

I spent probably a year in total in FSU over a 12 year period and had full first dates with around 150 women.

I was very polite with all the women (initially) and my 'assertiveness' was of the velvet glove type.

I never let anyone walk all over me (except for my days in US Navy as a teenager . . . some silliness about subordinates, 'chain of command,' etc.).  Only 3-4 FSU gals tried it with me . . . and I left them sitting in a restaurant alone . . . after I paid the bill . . . or quickly put  them on a bus or in a taxi.

I 'acted like the man' in planning out initial activities, but later asked for suggestions about where to go, what to do, etc.

I was never very sexually aggressive with a woman.  Just set the tone with pleasant restaurant meals, back to my apartment for wine, cheese, fruits, soft music, pleasant talk, some dancing.  The women usually took the lead as to progressing to sex.

e.g. Unbutton part of blouse or dress, pull shirt up out of jeans or skirt to show some belly, pull zipper down a little bit on jeans or skirt . . . or even the full green light . . . go take a shower.

I remember 5 who gave other specific signs on first dates.
1) When kissed her on neck.  She said 'only do that if we are going to do something because I am easily aroused and don't want to get aroused if nothing will happen.'
2) After first kiss in apartment one said 'I want you.'
3) Two, very early in apartment, said 'Let's go to the bed.'
4) One, while she was sitting at table and I was pouring wine, unzipped my trousers and pulled out my equipment.

Note 1: Each of the 5 gals above were highly educated with good or even high paying professional (not hooker) jobs.  The same applied to virtually all the gals I dated.

Note 2: My target age group was 35-50 years.  Many of the women told me they hadn't even been on a date for months or years.  My experience may not translate to FSU women in different age groups.

My 'let the woman choose' approach led to intimacy with 60 out of 150 at some point on dates 1 through 3 (One was on date 5. Several valid reasons on both sides why nothing on dates 1-4).
Maybe the number would have been higher had I been as aggressive as many FSU men are.
Some FSU women told me that it is not uncommon for FSU men to tell them . . . "I want to Fock you," at a first introduction at a large party, etc.

I fully agree with the statement: "You mustn't appear cheap, but don't flash the cash either . . ."   A fine line to thread or tread.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 03, 2022, 06:49:42 AM

Krimster lived in Crimea and has spent time in Russia too.


He knows about Russian and Ukrainian women.


My own experience with the women out there is very limited..just three nights in Kyiv..but even i could see that you need to be very assertive with women out there...you need to act like the man and act cool when you're doing it  8)


Being polite and letting them walk all over you won't cut it.


You mustn't appear cheap,but don't flash the cash either or they'll think you're a mug with money to be taken by them.


Never forget many of the most attractive girls will have been sponsored by wealthy married men..so they don't really have the morals you may have.


Many come from harsh backgrounds so will do whatever it takes to ,in their minds,improve the quality of their life.


The reason why so many western men fail out there with the women is because they cannot change their western mindset which is drummed into us almost from birth.



Some of the things Krimster says might not be for you....we're all different personalities,and he's a bit of a maverick...but instead of getting into insults and arguments with him,use the nuggets of info he gives you that sit ok with you.


2tallbill is another poster who can put you on the right track to success out there.

That's a really good appraisal I think CB, you've done well to pick that up in the three nights you were out there very well indeed in my opinion.

Thing is if anything society in the west is driving further away from society in the FSU I think. Only in the past week we've had the story with Halifax Bank in the UK giving their staff name badges with pronouns of 'She, Her, Hers' under their name lol, all to do with gender queer stuff. That's how ridiculous and how different things are becoming in the west these days. Can you imagine how a FSU person would see that? I can only imagine they would struggle to fathom it out or what the hell was going on. As you know in the UK a few years back we had the law over coercive control brought in, generally it tends to be men hauled up on it as women are more subtle and devious with being coercive I think. Anyhow in the FSU as far as I get the impression coercion is not really a term banded around, here it never used to be until the last decade or so.

I think that's kind of the issue here as you note that many people here in the west don't realise how different it is out in the FSU. On the surface people can look fairly similar to westerners and act fairly similar but beneath all of that they have a different society & culture. I think it's more akin to going back to somewhere between the 1950s to 1980s in mindset in the west more in that direction. I think it takes some getting to grips with but I'm finding the more I do over time the more comfortable I feel with those values than what we have in the west. I kind of hope it remains that way and not how to the direction the west has taken as I think our society is suffering a lot from going the way it has. I wouldn't want the FSU to change.

In comparison though I think if you look at other societies such as Turkey & Egypt countries like Ukraine are kind to true women for the most part compared to countries like Turkey & Egypt. In Turkey & Egypt beating of the female in marriage or whatever is commonplace and it can often be harsh and frequent beatings at that. Places like Ukraine compared to those countries are liberated, sure they get a bit of bad violence in a bad marriage there but in general it's no comparison to the severity and extensiveness of what goes down in Turkey & Egypt.

I think that is what Professor Keep needs to understand though. It's not a case of just picking yourself up and placing yourself down in Eastern Europe. It's a working class culture over there and they have their ways and are happy with their ways. It's more a case of learn the game and roll with it or decide if it's not for you. That's how I've come to see it anyhow.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ML on July 03, 2022, 08:49:12 AM
Thank God it is not obligatory.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 03, 2022, 09:40:24 AM
Morality is an illusion
because it’s so variable

in Christendom
1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

Amen to THAT BROTHER! 
One that I do agree with, it would eliminate the major headache that occurs with marrying an FSU woman!

1 Corinthians 11:1-34
Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. ...

Now in the freakin 21st century, go into an Orthodox Church and look at the Wimmin
and WHAT dear gentle readers do you SEE?
Same with the Joos, except the men must also wear funny little hats and grow their hair long at the sides

These ultra-orthodox people give me the most headaches in Israel for my non-conformance appearance
I honed my “tough guy” persona,  “don’t phuque with me” here and in Russia
Israeli Defense Forces boot camp had segregated barracks, not just Male/Female, but also on what your position is on the religious spectrum, because they need to keep atheists separate from the Ultra-orthodox!!!  The atheists would at some point get “sick and tired” of all the stoopid coming from the Orthodox and FINALLY beat the crap out of them, the solution was to keep them in segragated barracks

my point is that Professori Jeepne andf  I are "BLOOD ENEMIES" of one another
the rest of ya'll need to figure out WHICH SIDE OF THE LINE YOU"RE ON" and just use YOUR OWN BELIEFS AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S to guide your actions
and so does it REALLY matter what line you're on?

as long as "to thine own beliefs, remain TRUE" and let each man let all other men live with the freedom to live however they choose

what I BELIEVE about "Human Sexuality in the FSU" which is the ULTIMATE REDUCTION of what this is ALL ABOUT in the first place
is based on 25 years of EXPERIENCE of having phuque buddies, personal assistants, girl-friends, and one wife, and until recently
VERY young misteresses, 30+ yr age difference
as well as two daughters I helped raise to adulthood
and a TON of Russian family and their network of friends, through in-laws of wife and daughters
as well as MANY of my own "Bizness" connections

THIS is what I put on the scales to be measured
and what weighty knowledge do you have to balance against it?

Father Confessor Jeepne, You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting...
and I also accuse you of being like "Onan" in the Bible, this is the ONLY thing you can GET A GRIP ON when it comes to sex
and you find it "the quickest solution in hand" for your horniness
by "spilling your own seed"

you're a poor sinner, who should BEG for God's forgiveness
and there ain't NO WAY ANYONE WILL BELIEVE that you don't do this at least EVERY OTHER DAY
so forget about asking "howdo ya know this" as your defense
instead if you publicy confess your sin, it will LEAD to your redemption and salvation!
cuz NOT EVEN Johny Appleseed has spilled as much seed as YOU!!

so WHITE BOY, PLEASE....

 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 03, 2022, 01:54:10 PM
I think the debate over who decides on societal values is an interesting one. Where exactly do they come from and gain dominance? They certainly try and assert their dominance over the population however they come about. Take my previous link that I gave on the Egyptian head religious guy and his quote - it's been erased. It's not just this forum but countless other western forums where stuff gets erased or where you get someone telling you that you can't say this or that as if you should say only what they think you should say. Absolutely ridiculous, I say whatever I want to say and I don't care how many times something gets erased or someone says I shouldn't say something I will still say it and won't let them change me. It's almost like an invisible force though has gotten hold of some people and told them how things should be and sent them about a mission to try and enforce it on everyone else they come across who doesn't think like they do - in the UK at least this has become known as the 'great group think'. Those that 'group think' feel the need to follow what they think the group are thinking and think others should too so much so they try to inflict 'cancel culture' in those that refuse to think as they do.

Admittedly over time I think if societal values stay embedded for long enough or are taken onboard by most people there is likely a degree of brainwashing to most of the population. If for example I said to UK women, moreso women my age or younger that they should not do careers but instead delicate themselves to the ironing board and kitchen sink think of the stink I am likely to receive lol. My guess is if I said the same to Ukrainian girls they may likely take to it better and even thank me for my advice.

Now I've never really been that bothered if women want careers, etc or what they do, when I was in my late teens, early twenties etc I was more than happy for them to do whatever they liked. It's only later over time I got to realize that the outcome wasn't exactly working out very well in western society for most people in my analysis of society. I could see it messing up the dating world and people not getting on and matching up as they used to. I am not alone in this, Professor Jordan Peterson a well renowned US Psychologist has pointed out the problems of modern day societal values we have here in the west. If Professor Keep searched for 'Jordan Peterson on women' on YouTube he could learn a fair bit about dating problems in the west. I assume Prof Keep has some reason he is willing to look abroad for a relationship that he can't find at home?

Anyhow point to all of this is, is that sometimes societal values don't suit us in the country we grew up in or they have changed to not to suit us or possibly we might have changed though often that tends to be less likely I think. In that case it's a wonderful thing Is thing I think to be able to go abroad and find a woman that better suits our values, potentially. No to saying that they suit our values exactly or there isn't stuff we are aware of in term of all of their values and culture. For me UK society is being pushed in such a way, especially a way that impacts relationships that I can't really stand to hear a lot of it sometimes, just a lot of bs that some are trying to enforce on others and ultimately will make Society a worse place I think as no one will know what they are or their own mind, they will be left just confused and increasingly messed up, up top not being able to make sense of themselves, their life or society.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on July 03, 2022, 03:01:52 PM
Morality is an illusion
because it’s so variable

in Christendom
1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

Amen to THAT BROTHER! 
One that I do agree with, it would eliminate the major headache that occurs with marrying an FSU woman!


While your post is amusing, you misquote 1 Timothy 2:12.  It is about preaching, and that women's role in preaching was restricted.  Nothing more.

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1 Corinthians 11:1-34
Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. ...


This is about the conduct at meals.  It arose because of the abuse of Agape feasts.  Agape feasts were intended to be feasts in which people came together for the service of God and their neighbours.  But the wealthy abused the concept, ignoring the poor.  1 Corinthians 11 is about righting this wrong, and how one is to behave when feasting in a manner intended to honour the Lord.

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Now in the freakin 21st century, go into an Orthodox Church and look at the Wimmin
and WHAT dear gentle readers do you SEE?


Women are not required to cover their heads in the Orthodox Church, although in Ukraine, most do.  I attended church without covering my head.  My husband used to go in jeans.  He was once admonished (in Soviet times) by one of the babushkas for how he was dressed.  They were all party hacks, which he knew.  He told her "I came to pray to God, not to please you.".  She shut up and left him alone after that.


Here, almost no women cover their heads at church.  My grandmother's generation did, but my Grandmother never left the house without covering her head, other than when she gardened in her yard.  She usually wore a kerchief, but she wore a hat to church.  Even my mother's generation didn't cover their heads.

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as long as "to thine own beliefs, remain TRUE" and let each man let all other men live with the freedom to live however they choose

what I BELIEVE about "Human Sexuality in the FSU" which is the ULTIMATE REDUCTION of what this is ALL ABOUT in the first place
is based on 25 years of EXPERIENCE of having phuque buddies, personal assistants, girl-friends, and one wife, and until recently
VERY young misteresses, 30+ yr age difference


I think he had a point, though.  Your example was one of coercion, rather than seduction.  Demanding a woman sleep with you or be dropped from a vehicle in the middle of nowhere could get you charged with rape on this side of the pond.  It's also pretty scummy behaviour, and shouldn't be emulated.


The better half, who knows Soviets far, far better than you ever will, and is hardly a moralist, finds the "MOB" industry distasteful because it relies primarily on chasing women in poverty because you have a dollar more.  Would you have wanted that for your own daughters?  To be seduced by some sleazy foreigner as a notch on his bedpost, then discarded, to sink back into her life of poverty? 


This also is precisely why Ukrainians have no compunction about screwing over foreigners, economically.  If you're there not as a tourist, but to bed women in a poor country, you will "pay" for that "privilege", in one way or another.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on July 03, 2022, 03:05:05 PM
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25551.msg565982#msg565982 (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25551.msg565982#msg565982)

So go live in Egypt.  You rail on about how "awful" WW are, but WW raised you.  I believe you posted you have a sister, who is also a WW. 

The reality is, it is only weak men who are disturbed by the changes in Western society.  Men who can compete on their own merits have no issue with feminism, or women being their equals, economically.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 03, 2022, 04:16:43 PM
Krimster Contra BO,

“This also is precisely why Ukrainians have no compunction about screwing over foreigners, economically.  If you're there not as a tourist, but to bed women in a poor country, you will "pay" for that "privilege", in one way or another. “

I forgot, you're in the sky daddy cult as well, just a different branch than Mr Jeep
your husband does likely know more about Soviet life than me
horrosho, molodiatZ
but since the two of you have been together how many women has YOUR husband slept with since then
VRS MY NUMBER during the same period of time...
1 vrs a 2 digit number, a REALLY HUGE ratio!  so let him pit his experience vrs mine in this category of knowledge, instead of knowledge of the late period of  everyday Soviet Life or Early Soviet Scientific literature

phony judgments of others are ALWAYS based on your own personal biases vrs theirs,
there’s NOTHING OBJECTIVE about it, just your opinions vrs someone else’s
so to me, such judgments contain NO REAL relation to “the judged”, because it’s just a statement about what your opinion is…

I understand FULLY the legal differences between East and West regarding this subject
when in Rome, do as the Romans…
same as Doing it in Russia

BTW, I wouldn’t be SO stoopid, to share a car with a woman over a long period
without getting the GAS/GRASS/ASS question settled “up front”, if this looked like a Pro Bono instead of a Pro Boner rider, I simply would’t ask her, she can try and find someone else to take her
GOOD LUCK with THAT!
GAS/GRASS/ASS
they ain’t got NO Money for GAS, no WEED
so WTF does that leave?

If the court pleases your honor, I’d like to rest my case
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 03, 2022, 04:19:19 PM
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25551.msg565982#msg565982 (http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?topic=25551.msg565982#msg565982)

So go live in Egypt.  You rail on about how "awful" WW are, but WW raised you.  I believe you posted you have a sister, who is also a WW. 

The reality is, it is only weak men who are disturbed by the changes in Western society.  Men who can compete on their own merits have no issue with feminism, or women being their equals, economically.

My mother grew up in the 50s so is very much like how FSW now are in terms of domestic priorities. My Sister grew up in the 80s & early nineties so less so, more career minded though perhaps not totally. The big change I think really occured in the UK in the early to mid nineties when schools tended to advocate careers to pretty much all girls.

Men that compete on their own merits tend to be above average looking guys, wealthy guys, guys with a good income career, guys with good social skills, etc. A lot of that is by good fortune rather than hard work/themselves. It's a disaster for women in the west men like that, western women crave men like that but because so many do once a guy realises he has a 'hook' that attracts one woman he sees that it also attracts many women. He becomes inundated with women and cheats on them all not always but most of these men do. Taking away the 'provider' position assigned to all men was a big mistake, it was there for a reason and that is that it made society work. Not all men loved being a provider as it meant a lifetime of work for them somewhat of a prison sentence in a way, but it was necessary in making society work. Now we just have a complete mess in so many ways in to do many people in the relationship game it is unbelievable.

I probably wouldn't mind a holiday to Egypt but I doubt I would fit that well there, I'm not religious and I'm probably too far off their cultural group. The FSU though is just about far enough for me and now I am understanding more of it more relatable.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 04, 2022, 12:53:26 PM
When I was a teenager, I worked part-time in my uncle’s jewelry store on 47th street in New York in the early 70s period

I was a BABY-FACED teenage salesman and I learned how to sweet talk older women whose husbands all recently died into buying thousands of dollars worth of jewelery

I got 10%,
this gave me my “pocket money” for the summer

back then almost all the sex I had was with older women
who all BOUGHT ME THINGS

so consider my behavior Quid Pro Quo

and say "HI!!" to skydaddy for me!
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 04, 2022, 03:52:34 PM
The thing is there is a lot of outcry these days in the west about women being taken advantage off but little is said about women taking advantage of men. Women such as those that go after getting with a rich guy or women that have a kid then try to get a guy just so they can dump the kid on them and most of the responsibilities of bringing the kid up particularly in the 0 to 5 years range. I think it really does go both ways and is just part of a complex myriad of communications & relationships between people. At the end of the day life is a kind of spontaneous thing, sure you can try to regulate it but the more you do of that the more boring life can become and more chance possibly of unequally regulating the bit some people don't like over that of other bits of human life.

I think there can be a lot of gameplay in places like Ukraine, I'm not saying it's all pleasant some below the belt as they say but other gameplay just for a bit of fun and seeing how they can get on with it. It's well known that some Ukrainian women take advantage of guys out in Ukraine so it's not like it's all one way. I believe our Beel is still wondering where those chicks have gotten to with the hoover he bought them ;D
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on July 04, 2022, 05:04:06 PM
I forgot, you're in the sky daddy cult as well, just a different branch than Mr Jeep
your husband does likely know more about Soviet life than me
horrosho, molodiatZ
but since the two of you have been together how many women has YOUR husband slept with since then
VRS MY NUMBER during the same period of time...
1 vrs a 2 digit number, a REALLY HUGE ratio!  so let him pit his experience vrs mine in this category of knowledge, instead of knowledge of the late period of  everyday Soviet Life or Early Soviet Scientific literature

The better half used to get hit on by women DAILY, even though he wore a wedding band.  He would generally refer the woman to a single coworker, and tell her, "He can help you."  I mean, bedding a woman in Russia or Ukraine, or anywhere in the Western world, for that matter, is not difficult, and not exactly something that gives you any special "insight" into the world.  It's far more difficult to remain loyal to one person than to be a man whore. (Stated, incidentally, without moral judgment.)

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I understand FULLY the legal differences between East and West regarding this subject
when in Rome, do as the Romans…
same as Doing it in Russia

BTW, I wouldn’t be SO stoopid, to share a car with a woman over a long period
without getting the GAS/GRASS/ASS question settled “up front”, if this looked like a Pro Bono instead of a Pro Boner rider, I simply would’t ask her, she can try and find someone else to take her
GOOD LUCK with THAT!
GAS/GRASS/ASS
they ain’t got NO Money for GAS, no WEED
so WTF does that leave?

If the court pleases your honor, I’d like to rest my case


See above.


If you settled the matter before leaving, that's a different issue.  But I note, you did not answer if this is something you would want your daughters to experience.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on July 04, 2022, 05:07:21 PM
My mother grew up in the 50s so is very much like how FSW now are in terms of domestic priorities. My Sister grew up in the 80s & early nineties so less so, more career minded though perhaps not totally. The big change I think really occured in the UK in the early to mid nineties when schools tended to advocate careers to pretty much all girls.

Men that compete on their own merits tend to be above average looking guys, wealthy guys, guys with a good income career, guys with good social skills, etc. A lot of that is by good fortune rather than hard work/themselves. It's a disaster for women in the west men like that, western women crave men like that but because so many do once a guy realises he has a 'hook' that attracts one woman he sees that it also attracts many women. He becomes inundated with women and cheats on them all not always but most of these men do. Taking away the 'provider' position assigned to all men was a big mistake, it was there for a reason and that is that it made society work. Not all men loved being a provider as it meant a lifetime of work for them somewhat of a prison sentence in a way, but it was necessary in making society work. Now we just have a complete mess in so many ways in to do many people in the relationship game it is unbelievable.

I probably wouldn't mind a holiday to Egypt but I doubt I would fit that well there, I'm not religious and I'm probably too far off their cultural group. The FSU though is just about far enough for me and now I am understanding more of it more relatable.


At your current income level, you can't be a provider.  So all this "theory" on the "evil Western feminists" is just sour grapes and excuses.


Incidentally, your mother's development did not end in the 1950's.  My mother was young in the 1960's, and here, there wasn't much of a feminist movement then.  But she can be described as a feminist, although she cooks, gardens, sews, bakes.  She also worked full time.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 04, 2022, 06:17:12 PM
“But I note, you did not answer if this is something you would want your daughters to experience. “


My daughters became VERY predatory towards “ALPHA MALES”  in their late teens
they honed their skills to the point to were they each were able to “BAG” a top level Male Super Model
looking husband with looks, intelligence and is high up in the Russian oligarchy before their 21st birthdays

this all began to develop when they were little girls
as you know, in the more rural areas of Russia/Ukraine young children are allowed to play naked on public beaches up to the age of maybe 6-7….

one day when I took my daughters to the beach near our home in Sevastopol
they saw these two naked boys running on the beach that were about their own age
with their little “you-know-what” flopping up and down as they ran

my daughters ran after them,  yelling out “see ya later Dad”
I didn’t see them again until 3 days later
with these dumb lookin grins on their faces

one of the lesser benefits of having an alpha-male husband
is they will DESTROY ANY OTHER MAN, who even tries to hit on you in any way or form

as a result, the odds of them being contacted by an extra terrestrial intelligence is MUCH more likely to occur
than for either of them to experience sexual harassment
cuz, by personality, my daughters are RUSSIAN and NOT Western
which means instead of protecting themselves, they will get the toughest strongest man they can find to protect them
this is just ONE small example, of how I think these girls ARE SUPER SMART!!!

in comparison, the only protective thing my wife ever did for me, was to carry a concealed pistol in a garter belt
cuz she knew FAZ Control, would't check her where she hid it, while triple checking me!!
we used to make a pretty good team, but that's all behind us now!!

it's WORTH IT, being a man whore!!!
older women give younger men a very TENDER form of love, that you could never get from a younger woman
having an Armani suit, so they could take you out and show you off to their friends
was just icing on the cake
but alas, I'm no longer "white and fluffy"



Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 05, 2022, 12:18:18 AM
I think that's a good point Krim, the impression I get is that out in the FSU the gameplay is ingrained in society in a way in which it forms part of the sifting & sorting of the dating process. Those that can play it well may gain a better mate in terms of social intelligence. So in a way it's just how dating gets conducted out there, both genders play it, it just depends who's better at it.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 05, 2022, 12:26:37 AM

At your current income level, you can't be a provider.  So all this "theory" on the "evil Western feminists" is just sour grapes and excuses.


Incidentally, your mother's development did not end in the 1950's.  My mother was young in the 1960's, and here, there wasn't much of a feminist movement then.  But she can be described as a feminist, although she cooks, gardens, sews, bakes.  She also worked full time.

If the UK was a patriarchy as it used to be, like in Ukraine I would get paid a third more for being a make breadwinner. On top of that if there were less females in the job market that would push up wages too, that would make me a provider.

As far as women are concerned some move with the times some don't. Most tend to hold onto early socialisation say up to their mid-late teens throughout their life. This tends to be the case for Men also, I basically can't relate to the present world of the gender queer, every other person suffering from a so called mental health problem world which we now appear to live in. When I was growing up in the 80s & 90s there was none of that at least nothing anybody wanted to take note off not in the UK at least.

To date I feel no compulsion to run out and find myself a mental health issue for myself to feel a special child.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 05, 2022, 06:25:31 AM
“But I note, you did not answer if this is something you would want your daughters to experience. “


My daughters became VERY predatory towards “ALPHA MALES”  in their late teens
they honed their skills to the point to were they each were able to “BAG” a top level Male Super Model
looking husband with looks, intelligence and is high up in the Russian oligarchy before their 21st birthdays

this all began to develop when they were little girls
as you know, in the more rural areas of Russia/Ukraine young children are allowed to play naked on public beaches up to the age of maybe 6-7….

one day when I took my daughters to the beach near our home in Sevastopol
they saw these two naked boys running on the beach that were about their own age
with their little “you-know-what” flopping up and down as they ran

my daughters ran after them,  yelling out “see ya later Dad”
I didn’t see them again until 3 days later
with these dumb lookin grins on their faces

one of the lesser benefits of having an alpha-male husband
is they will DESTROY ANY OTHER MAN, who even tries to hit on you in any way or form

as a result, the odds of them being contacted by an extra terrestrial intelligence is MUCH more likely to occur
than for either of them to experience sexual harassment
cuz, by personality, my daughters are RUSSIAN and NOT Western
which means instead of protecting themselves, they will get the toughest strongest man they can find to protect them
this is just ONE small example, of how I think these girls ARE SUPER SMART!!!

in comparison, the only protective thing my wife ever did for me, was to carry a concealed pistol in a garter belt
cuz she knew FAZ Control, would't check her where she hid it, while triple checking me!!
we used to make a pretty good team, but that's all behind us now!!

it's WORTH IT, being a man whore!!!
older women give younger men a very TENDER form of love, that you could never get from a younger woman
having an Armani suit, so they could take you out and show you off to their friends
was just icing on the cake
but alas, I'm no longer "white and fluffy"
What a load of utter twaddle.
You should go into the hot air business. More chance of you making a fortune there then coming across as an authority on all things FSU and female, which is what you’re peddling.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 05, 2022, 08:20:01 AM
I ain't peddlin nothin!

here's a recent pic of my oldest daughter
she speaks native Russian PERFECTLY including regional accents (part of her education was done in Russian in Russia!)
she's almost 6 feet tall
university graduate, has her own money given to her by her "daddy"
she could've picked any man she wanted
and I promise you, they wouldn't say Nyet
the one she picked to marry looks like a male super model and is a total "bad-assed" Russian and his father...well the less said about him the better...
so the only one emitting hot air
well, that'd be you 'bro
what pics do you have to contradict me
oh, NONE!


What you interpret as “bragging”
is simply my way of stating my “bona fides” to noobs
who make statements about a subject, that they have little actual experience of
no experience = no veracity, just heresay and their opinions
that’s the real lie being peddled here, theirs, not mine…

I do acknowledge engagin in a “bit of hyperbole” now and again
MAYBE the fish wasn’t “quite” as big as I said, but otherwise a good fishing story none the less
this is what I strive for…

sorry, you feel offended by this mate
but ‘tis you who are the one with the problem, and NOT ME
this is a game I ALWAYS PLAY against guys with DEEP INSECURITIES
this is how I spot them…

you ALWAYS know you’re OVER THE TARGET, based ON THE AMOUNT OF FLACK YOU’RE GETTING!!!
BOMBS AWAY!







Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: tfcrew on July 05, 2022, 07:05:13 PM
While your post is amusing, you misquote 1 Timothy 2:12.  It is about preaching, and that women's role in preaching was restricted.  Nothing more.
The way some guys are falsely preaching today..there are ladies that can give sermons which are a vast improvement.
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My husband used to go in jeans.  He was once admonished (in Soviet times) by one of the babushkas for how he was dressed. 
Here...people are going in shorts in this heat wave. 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 06, 2022, 01:56:55 AM
I ain't peddlin nothin!

here's a recent pic of my oldest daughter
she speaks native Russian PERFECTLY including regional accents (part of her education was done in Russian in Russia!)
she's almost 6 feet tall
university graduate, has her own money given to her by her "daddy"
she could've picked any man she wanted
and I promise you, they wouldn't say Nyet
the one she picked to marry looks like a male super model and is a total "bad-assed" Russian and his father...well the less said about him the better...
so the only one emitting hot air
well, that'd be you 'bro
what pics do you have to contradict me
oh, NONE!


What you interpret as “bragging”
is simply my way of stating my “bona fides” to noobs
who make statements about a subject, that they have little actual experience of
no experience = no veracity, just heresay and their opinions
that’s the real lie being peddled here, theirs, not mine…

I do acknowledge engagin in a “bit of hyperbole” now and again
MAYBE the fish wasn’t “quite” as big as I said, but otherwise a good fishing story none the less
this is what I strive for…

sorry, you feel offended by this mate
but ‘tis you who are the one with the problem, and NOT ME
this is a game I ALWAYS PLAY against guys with DEEP INSECURITIES
this is how I spot them…

you ALWAYS know you’re OVER THE TARGET, based ON THE AMOUNT OF FLACK YOU’RE GETTING!!!
BOMBS AWAY!

You have a very beautiful daughter Krim, always great to see someone who can back up what they say with photos :)
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 06, 2022, 02:13:45 AM
I ain't peddlin nothin!

here's a recent pic of my oldest daughter
she speaks native Russian PERFECTLY including regional accents (part of her education was done in Russian in Russia!)
she's almost 6 feet tall
university graduate, has her own money given to her by her "daddy"
she could've picked any man she wanted
and I promise you, they wouldn't say Nyet
the one she picked to marry looks like a male super model and is a total "bad-assed" Russian and his father...well the less said about him the better...
so the only one emitting hot air
well, that'd be you 'bro
what pics do you have to contradict me
oh, NONE!


What you interpret as “bragging”
is simply my way of stating my “bona fides” to noobs
who make statements about a subject, that they have little actual experience of
no experience = no veracity, just heresay and their opinions
that’s the real lie being peddled here, theirs, not mine…

I do acknowledge engagin in a “bit of hyperbole” now and again
MAYBE the fish wasn’t “quite” as big as I said, but otherwise a good fishing story none the less
this is what I strive for…

sorry, you feel offended by this mate
but ‘tis you who are the one with the problem, and NOT ME
this is a game I ALWAYS PLAY against guys with DEEP INSECURITIES
this is how I spot them…

you ALWAYS know you’re OVER THE TARGET, based ON THE AMOUNT OF FLACK YOU’RE GETTING!!!
BOMBS AWAY!

If you’d look closer to home you’ll spot the one with deep insecurities methinks.

As for your pics, so called facts etc etc etc. They mean exactly zilch on an anonymous forum. The only one lapping it up like a thirsty dog is Trenchcoat.

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2022, 08:40:19 AM
so now you're moving from attacking me to attacking Trench...
and your defense over your insecurities is "no, me not dumb dumb, you dumb dumb"
how original...

the pic IS of my oldest daughter....
and here's another from when she was about 10...

and if you won't accept THAT TRUTH
then please be a good little boy and run along now...
and find some other adults to annoy
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: ProfessorJeep on July 06, 2022, 10:06:42 AM
Morality is an illusion
because it’s so variable

in Christendom
1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

Amen to THAT BROTHER! 
One that I do agree with, it would eliminate the major headache that occurs with marrying an FSU woman!

1 Corinthians 11:1-34
Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ. Now I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I delivered them to you. But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. ...

Now in the freakin 21st century, go into an Orthodox Church and look at the Wimmin
and WHAT dear gentle readers do you SEE?
Same with the Joos, except the men must also wear funny little hats and grow their hair long at the sides

These ultra-orthodox people give me the most headaches in Israel for my non-conformance appearance
I honed my “tough guy” persona,  “don’t phuque with me” here and in Russia
Israeli Defense Forces boot camp had segregated barracks, not just Male/Female, but also on what your position is on the religious spectrum, because they need to keep atheists separate from the Ultra-orthodox!!!  The atheists would at some point get “sick and tired” of all the stoopid coming from the Orthodox and FINALLY beat the crap out of them, the solution was to keep them in segragated barracks

my point is that Professori Jeepne andf  I are "BLOOD ENEMIES" of one another
the rest of ya'll need to figure out WHICH SIDE OF THE LINE YOU"RE ON" and just use YOUR OWN BELIEFS AND NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S to guide your actions
and so does it REALLY matter what line you're on?

as long as "to thine own beliefs, remain TRUE" and let each man let all other men live with the freedom to live however they choose

what I BELIEVE about "Human Sexuality in the FSU" which is the ULTIMATE REDUCTION of what this is ALL ABOUT in the first place
is based on 25 years of EXPERIENCE of having phuque buddies, personal assistants, girl-friends, and one wife, and until recently
VERY young misteresses, 30+ yr age difference
as well as two daughters I helped raise to adulthood
and a TON of Russian family and their network of friends, through in-laws of wife and daughters
as well as MANY of my own "Bizness" connections

THIS is what I put on the scales to be measured
and what weighty knowledge do you have to balance against it?

Father Confessor Jeepne, You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting...
and I also accuse you of being like "Onan" in the Bible, this is the ONLY thing you can GET A GRIP ON when it comes to sex
and you find it "the quickest solution in hand" for your horniness
by "spilling your own seed"

you're a poor sinner, who should BEG for God's forgiveness
and there ain't NO WAY ANYONE WILL BELIEVE that you don't do this at least EVERY OTHER DAY
so forget about asking "howdo ya know this" as your defense
instead if you publicy confess your sin, it will LEAD to your redemption and salvation!
cuz NOT EVEN Johny Appleseed has spilled as much seed as YOU!!

so WHITE BOY, PLEASE....

 

That’s the second time you’ve envisioned me masturbating, Krim. You described it an intimate detail twice. For a second, I was afraid you were going to ask me for pics!

For a guy who claims to be an alpha male and international playboy, you spend a lot of time thinking about other guys sexually. Sounds pretty gay, bro.

I mean, I’m not judging. This is America, not the FSU. I don’t swing that way myself, but I accept you as you are!
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2022, 10:26:31 AM
“That’s the second time you’ve envisioned me masturbating, Krim. You described it an intimate detail twice. For a second, I was afraid you were going to ask me for pics!”***

you mean I was right about the little napkin?  haha!!!
nothing wrong with being gay...
however, I'm not…
and I don’t “envision”  ANYTHING about YOUR sexuality, but I bet YOU DO!
cuz the ONLY sexual stimulation YOU GET IS FROM YOU!
So ya gotta “envision” something during this process to keep yourself "stimulated"

these are ALL LAME predictable defenses
from “how do ya know”
to “you must be gay”
you’re trying unsuccessfully to deflect
from the ABSOLUTE FACT
that the only sex YOU GET
is FROM YOU

So bottom line...
I’m telling the truth about you (which you haven't denied)
and in return you try to make up ridiculous lies about me as your "defense"

and look, I'll be TOTALLY honest with you (unlike you)
the ONLY REASON I KNOW
is because, as you are, I once was...

ok?  some experiences transcend individual differences
when you're single AND horny, what ELSE are ya gonna do, right?

the difference between YOU and ME
is I haven't done this in over 20 years

cuz I got me some Russian/Ukrainian wimmin to provide for ALL my needs
from cookin, house cleanin, sex, and more
and you gotta do that ALL by yourself
plus I got my girls and they bring two major Russian families into "our circle"
hegemony baby, is what it's ALL ABOUT
who's connected to who
quite a web for the spider to seek his prey



PS

***
if you imagine even for a second ANYONE would want to see a pic of a sad lookin little Albino Worm, with NO EYES, you'd be WRONG!!!
it would be traumatizing to see for some people
so don't EVEN think about doin this!!







Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on July 06, 2022, 01:42:24 PM
Why do you refer to your wife as "Russian" when she has no Russian blood, krim?

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My daughters became VERY predatory towards “ALPHA MALES”  in their late teensthey honed their skills to the point to were they each were able to “BAG” a top level Male Super Modellooking husband with looks, intelligence and is high up in the Russian oligarchy before their 21st birthdays

Is that supposed to be some sort of accomplishment? 

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one of the lesser benefits of having an alpha-male husband
is they will DESTROY ANY OTHER MAN, who even tries to hit on you in any way or formas a result, the odds of them being contacted by an extra terrestrial intelligence is MUCH more likely to occur than for either of them to experience sexual harassment cuz, by personality, my daughters are RUSSIAN and NOT Western which means instead of protecting themselves, they will get the toughest strongest man they can find to protect them this is just ONE small example, of how I think these girls ARE SUPER SMART!!!

I see.  So your daughters are incapable of dealing with harassment themselves?  They will look to a male to solve their problems? 

Nevertheless, you dodged the question.  The question was not whether your daughters would seek out a man to come to the aid of the damsel in distress.  The question was whether you would like your daughters to be afforded the same treatment you cavalierly suggest WM inflict upon poverty stricken women.  It seems you would not want your daughters to have to endure such behaviour.  So why do you think it's perfectly acceptable to do the same thing to other men's daughters? 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on July 06, 2022, 02:13:14 PM
If the UK was a patriarchy as it used to be, like in Ukraine I would get paid a third more for being a make breadwinner. On top of that if there were less females in the job market that would push up wages too, that would make me a provider.

No you wouldn't.  You would be exactly where you are - at the bottom of the ladder, in terms of earnings.  Feminism is not at the root of your failure to find a suitable mate, or to make a salary which is below the UK median.  That's all on you.

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As far as women are concerned some move with the times some don't. Most tend to hold onto early socialisation say up to their mid-late teens throughout their life. This tends to be the case for Men also

Bullocks.

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I basically can't relate to the present world of the gender queer, every other person suffering from a so called mental health problem world which we now appear to live in. When I was growing up in the 80s & 90s there was none of that at least nothing anybody wanted to take note off not in the UK at least.

Oh, so homosexuals didn't exist in the 1980's (LOL)? 

The mental health issues were the same.  In those days, women (primarily) were prescribed valium rather than zoloft.

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To date I feel no compulsion to run out and find myself a mental health issue for myself to feel a special child.
I don't think people find mental health issues to feel "special".  I think they want to improve their lives.  This always existed.  It was just hidden previously, with fewer supports for those who need help.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 06, 2022, 02:33:50 PM
No you wouldn't.  You would be exactly where you are - at the bottom of the ladder, in terms of earnings.  Feminism is not at the root of your failure to find a suitable mate, or to make a salary which is below the UK median.  That's all on you.

Bullocks.

Oh, so homosexuals didn't exist in the 1980's (LOL)? 

The mental health issues were the same.  In those days, women (primarily) were prescribed valium rather than zoloft.
I don't think people find mental health issues to feel "special".  I think they want to improve their lives.  This always existed.  It was just hidden previously, with fewer supports for those who need help.

In theory Boe I should be near the top of the pecking order for hot chicks to pick me. You see I have no mental health issues or health problems. So hot chicks should see that and they should think, 'good genes that he doesn't have any mental health problems'. Girls with mental health problems should be looking at me in awe with a sense of jealousy thinking, 'if only I was fully functioning like that dude it would be so great!  :)'

Are they??? They should be as it stands to logical reason. If they had kids with me then there is a greater odds their kids may be fine but if they have kids with another person with mental health issues then the odds are greater than their kids will have a mental health problem, almost certain perhaps. Women usually want healthy offspring unless they are the type that only really care about themselves but they are probably in a minority. Genetic Sperm Donation Clinics should be offering very many thousands of pounds/dollars for guys like me instead of the 50 quid/bus fare insult currently on offer (incidentally I'm not in favour of making donations).

So how come all of that isn't true? Well I would put that down to a lot of mental health problems being bs. There's been a proliferation of people claiming they have a mental health issue to gain sympathy on social media, in their careers to get on, to push themselves forward. Who says, 'hey I did this today and that's it good effort made' hardly anyone these days instead they say, 'I did this today, a good effort made in spite of my mental health issue (insert here) it just has more impact. It's getting overused a lot now I think, I'm not saying there aren't people out there with genuine mental health problems but the number of people bandwagoning is probably at epic proportions.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 06, 2022, 02:43:34 PM

Nevertheless, you dodged the question.  The question was not whether your daughters would seek out a man to come to the aid of the damsel in distress.  The question was whether you would like your daughters to be afforded the same treatment you cavalierly suggest WM inflict upon poverty stricken women.  It seems you would not want your daughters to have to endure such behaviour.  So why do you think it's perfectly acceptable to do the same thing to other men's daughters? 
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My take on this subject is that like it or not there is social status throughout society. I'm not one who gets off on the social status thing or being snobby often that's more a female trait. Want to know how a girl who is into the whole social status thing looks at guys? Guys who they see as low social status and below them they don't have time for and often little respect. So it's not a one way street, women don't always treat guys in a 'proper' fashion as we know it in the west. Some FSW rip guys off, scam them, etc. They'll then turn around and say it's the guys choice in whether he allowed it to happen. In the girls case as Krim gave they could reject 'ASS' and either pay for Gas or leave, they were getting a free ride after all to at least some point. All depends what system you wish to play in, in my opinion.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Boethius on July 06, 2022, 02:46:23 PM


In theory Boe I should be near the top of the pecking order for hot chicks to pick me. You see I have no mental health issues or health problems. So hot chicks should see that and they should think, 'good genes that he doesn't have any mental health problems'. Girls with mental health problems should be looking at me in awe with a sense of jealousy thinking, 'if only I was fully functioning like that dude it would be so great!  :) '

Are they??? They should be as it stands to logical reason. If they had kids with me then there is a greater odds their kids may be fine but if they have kids with another person with mental health issues then the odds are greater than their kids will have a mental health problem, almost certain perhaps. Women usually want healthy offspring unless they are the type that only really care about themselves but they are probably in a minority. Genetic Sperm Donation Clinics should be offering very many thousands of pounds/dollars for guys like me instead of the 50 quid/bus fare insult currently on offer (incidentally I'm not in favour of making donations).

So how come all of that isn't true? Well I would put that down to a lot of mental health problems being bs. There's been a proliferation of people claiming they have a mental health issue to gain sympathy on social media, in their careers to get on, to push themselves forward. Who says, 'hey I did this today and that's it good effort made' hardly anyone these days instead they say, 'I did this today, a good effort made in spite of my mental health issue (insert here) it just has more impact. It's getting overused a lot now I think, I'm not saying there aren't people out there with genuine mental health problems but the number of people bandwagoning is probably at epic proportions.

First, you are jumping to a conclusion that you have no mental health issues.

Second, the vast majority of individuals do not have mental health issues.  So, assuming you have no mental health issues, you're not particularly special.

Third, you could find a woman in the UK, but you have stated time and again you are not interested in such.


My take on this subject is that like it or not there is social status throughout society. I'm not one who gets off on the social status thing or being snobby often that's more a female trait. Want to know how a girl who is into the whole social status thing looks at guys? Guys who they see as low social status and below them they don't have time for and often little respect. So it's not a one way street, women don't always treat guys in a 'proper' fashion as we know it in the west. Some FSW rip guys off, scam them, etc. They'll then turn around and say it's the guys choice in whether he allowed it to happen. In the girls case as Krim gave they could reject 'ASS' and either pay for Gas or leave, they were getting a free ride after all to at least some point. All depends what system you wish to play in, in my opinion.


IMHO, any form of coercive sex is rape.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 06, 2022, 02:56:52 PM

plus I got my girls and they bring two major Russian families into "our circle"
hegemony baby, is what it's ALL ABOUT
who's connected to who
quite a web for the spider to seek his prey


Are either of the Russian families as major in Oligarch circles as this guy Krim?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-62068421

Just interested.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2022, 03:02:27 PM
Why do you refer to your wife as "Russian" when she has no Russian blood, krim?

 
the fact that her native tongue is Russian, because she didn’t learn Ukrainian or Moldovan
the Cajun French in Louisiana call all other white non-Cajuns, “The English”
I cite this as precedent...


Is that supposed to be some sort of accomplishment?


It’s something they learned how to do very well, having power over the opposite sex and USING IT
this is one of their "Super Powers" but by no means the ONLY one...


I see.  So your daughters are incapable of dealing with harassment themselves?  They will look to a male to solve their problems? 


that’s like saying “so your daughters are incapable of carrying a heavy load over a mountain, so they will look to a donkey to carry it…   well Duh...

It seems you would not want your daughters to have to endure such behaviour.  So why do you think it's perfectly acceptable to do the same thing to other men's daughters?

BECAUSE I ALLOW MYSELF THIS PRIVILIGE
and the women are the ones who ultimately choose based on what's presented to them
It's like "card counting" I just know how to shift the odds of the game to my benefit,
and all's fair, in love and in war
two things that I REALLY excel at



NO Trench, my family isn't connected to the Londongrad network or any other foreign group
it's one of the benefits my daughters provide, giving instant access to the USA for two of their children, one of whom is arriving at the end of this week
my network got a lot bigger and stronger through them
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 06, 2022, 03:09:50 PM

NO Trench, my family isn't connected to the Londongrad network or any other foreign group
it's one of the benefits my daughters provide, giving instant access to the USA for two of their children, one of whom is arriving at the end of this week

Ah, the LAgrad network instead :D

Seriously though how did your family come to decide on them as good to marry as someone you could rely upon I presume?

I ask as your wife is from Ukraine as I understand it so a bit of a jump to the Russian scene.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 06, 2022, 03:16:56 PM
my family didn't decide, my daughters did
they each have a Russian social network to tap into
Russian guys in general went COMPLETELY "crazy" over them

however, to get their attention, you needed to be a TOTAL STUD-MUFFIN
they and their friends WERE VERY PICKY about men...

it's NOT a big jump from Ukraine to Russia
I didn't cross the border in Crimea
the border crossed me, it was 10 times easier to live in Moscow after that compared to before

all of our social networks are FILLED with Russians
even here in Texas, where my wife has hosted GazProm executives (Univ of Moscow graduates!) for dinner and a Russian Social
and our children all played together

my best friend is a "former" GRU officer who is in the gas industry here in Houston
the best English, and the most charming person, I ever met, speaks multiple languages

most of my wife's family have fled Ukraine and Crimea, and live in Russia now

before all this happened I had MAJOR business plans for the Russian Far East
starting in a place called Birobidzhan
setting up a wood products B2B network between Russia and China
but that's history now, cuz Chinese won't allow Russians to set up any digital payment system in anything other than Chinese currency
and Chinese will set the terms to their favor






Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 07, 2022, 02:14:47 AM
so now you're moving from attacking me to attacking Trench...
and your defense over your insecurities is "no, me not dumb dumb, you dumb dumb"
how original...

the pic IS of my oldest daughter....
and here's another from when she was about 10...

and if you won't accept THAT TRUTH
then please be a good little boy and run along now...
and find some other adults to annoy

Says the person who needs to post pictures of his wife and daughter for validation from the likes of Trench. LOL
Do I really care what your wife/daughter look like?
You think they’re beautiful? Good.
They wouldn’t turn my head but each to their own.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 07, 2022, 03:50:41 AM
Says the person who needs to post pictures of his wife and daughter for validation from the likes of Trench. LOL
Do I really care what your wife/daughter look like?
You think they’re beautiful? Good.
They wouldn’t turn my head but each to their own.

Gaunty if you don't feel able to put up pics of your wife there's no need to have a go at those that feel able to do so. Krim has plenty to be proud of in his instance.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 07, 2022, 03:59:00 AM
my family didn't decide, my daughters did
they each have a Russian social network to tap into
Russian guys in general went COMPLETELY "crazy" over them

however, to get their attention, you needed to be a TOTAL STUD-MUFFIN
they and their friends WERE VERY PICKY about men...

it's NOT a big jump from Ukraine to Russia
I didn't cross the border in Crimea
the border crossed me, it was 10 times easier to live in Moscow after that compared to before

all of our social networks are FILLED with Russians
even here in Texas, where my wife has hosted GazProm executives (Univ of Moscow graduates!) for dinner and a Russian Social
and our children all played together

my best friend is a "former" GRU officer who is in the gas industry here in Houston
the best English, and the most charming person, I ever met, speaks multiple languages

most of my wife's family have fled Ukraine and Crimea, and live in Russia now

before all this happened I had MAJOR business plans for the Russian Far East
starting in a place called Birobidzhan
setting up a wood products B2B network between Russia and China
but that's history now, cuz Chinese won't allow Russians to set up any digital payment system in anything other than Chinese currency
and Chinese will set the terms to their favor

Yeah it's kind of bizarre how some stuff can actually work in someone's favour. Interesting to see how the Crimea situation has it's upsides.

I get the impression you're very much a business opportunity orientated guy Krim. He far east of Russia wouldn't have been my first thought for a place to search for business opportunities but I guess the more far flung the less competition their is. Guess it's just a case of see what else is out there along the way now that, that one has fallen through. Do you ever think you'll hit the real big time like Major Oligarch, i.e Gazprom type of level?
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 07, 2022, 07:58:08 AM
Johny,
Your complaints against me are pure BS, plucked from your own mind, and have no connection to me
lots of other guys on this site have posted pics of their wives and family, so get over your insecurity

YOU know what kinda person would criticize someone else’s pics without posting ANY of their own?
A COWARD!

This weak ad-hominem  attack on me because YOU think I’m trying to “challenge you” and claim superiority, is ridiculous

keep your precious EGO to yourself mate and grow the fook up and learn how to "man-up" and not be fearful and a coward

Your own words betray your true intentions and NOT the fabricated ones you present…

“...coming across as an authority on all things FSU and female, which is what you’re peddling.

THIS is what YOU claim I am, and NOT WHAT I claim I am
I am just a simple story teller

but some of the readers of this board,  based on their own anxiety about themselves, would perceive that the existence of an authority figure, “troubling”…
and what possible reason, could that be, pray tell…

OK?
once you see the truth, you can’t un-see it

so yeah, I’ve posted pictures of property I owned in Crimea, a boat I bought, a Lada I bought
and my family

shoulda asked for your permission first
in case it makes you feel bad
my bad

now be a good lad, and run along …


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 07, 2022, 08:05:27 AM
no Trench, the secret to survival, is to stay small, and make OTHER PEOPLE MONEY, (which gives them an encentive to make you "off-limits") and meanwhile figure out ways to make money indirectly that doesn't come out of their pockets

hiding offshore income is NOW MUCH harder and takes much more work then it did under the Trump admin.
so it's the ideal retirement time for me
knowing when enough is enough, is important wisdom,
all the major fails I've seen in Russia are almost always about "over-reach"
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 07, 2022, 01:16:16 PM
Johny,
Your complaints against me are pure BS, plucked from your own mind, and have no connection to me
lots of other guys on this site have posted pics of their wives and family, so get over your insecurity

YOU know what kinda person would criticize someone else’s pics without posting ANY of their own?
A COWARD!

This weak ad-hominem  attack on me because YOU think I’m trying to “challenge you” and claim superiority, is ridiculous

keep your precious EGO to yourself mate and grow the fook up and learn how to "man-up" and not be fearful and a coward

Your own words betray your true intentions and NOT the fabricated ones you present…

“...coming across as an authority on all things FSU and female, which is what you’re peddling.

THIS is what YOU claim I am, and NOT WHAT I claim I am
I am just a simple story teller

but some of the readers of this board,  based on their own anxiety about themselves, would perceive that the existence of an authority figure, “troubling”…
and what possible reason, could that be, pray tell…

OK?
once you see the truth, you can’t un-see it

so yeah, I’ve posted pictures of property I owned in Crimea, a boat I bought, a Lada I bought
and my family

shoulda asked for your permission first
in case it makes you feel bad
my bad

now be a good lad, and run along …

Bah, you’re just a fatuous windbag with an inflated vision of himself.

I’ll give you credit for imagination though.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 07, 2022, 01:20:10 PM
Quote from: Trenchcoat
Gaunty if you don't feel able to put up pics of your wife there's no need to have a go at those that feel able to do so. Krim has plenty to be proud of in his instance.
There’s no way I’d be posting pics of my wife or family on a forum like this.
As for Krim, well, he’s bragged about wanting to get off with his daughters friends, so yes, he’s plenty to be proud of.  :cluebat:
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 07, 2022, 01:41:19 PM
There’s no way I’d be posting pics of my wife or family on a forum like this.

why?  afraid we'll behave like you behaved?
you do seem to be dominated by your anxieties...
would urge you however, to keep your problems to yourself
and refrain from projecting them onto others


As for Krim, well, he’s bragged about wanting to get off with his daughters friends, so yes, he’s plenty to be proud of

hell yeah I DO, but I WON'T give you any the reasons WHY, on a forum like this.


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 08, 2022, 12:30:12 AM
There’s no way I’d be posting pics of my wife or family on a forum like this.

why?

Why would anyone is the better question?



As for Krim, well, he’s bragged about wanting to get off with his daughters friends, so yes, he’s plenty to be proud of

hell yeah I DO, but I WON'T give you any the reasons WHY, on a forum like this.
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You don’t need to. They’re quite self evident.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 08, 2022, 06:54:40 AM
I LIVE my life, the way I choose to live it, I don't seek or require ANYONE'S APPROVAL
and ABSOLUTELY DON'T CARE about anyone's disapproval

so your faux moral outrage is ridiculous gaslighting
to deflect from the fact, that my posts threaten your fragile ego
which causes you to "lash out"

during WWII my father was stationed in Tidworth, wiltshire UK, to train for a post-Normandy offensive, with the 8th armored div

he had a similar problem to the one I’m having on this VERY BOARD!

an American NCO’s salary was higher than a British Officer’s
Americans had barracks full of food, booze, coffee, from the USA
Brits were rationed to 2 hotdogs and 2 potatoes per day

Americans were on average, bigger, stronger looking than your average Englishman
and were both attracted to AND BY THE OPPOSITE SEX
cuz of their accents

my daddy loved those English girls so damned much, he ended up marryin one!
It really pissed off ze Englisch mensch!!!  who behaved EXACTLY how YOU are behaving NOW Johny!!

Americans were “over-sexed, over-paid, and over-here”

so yeah, I feel a little strain of that in you Johny, just below the surface…
it looks like you have a REAL BAD case of Penis Envy

denial, ain't a river in Egypt
but you can still swim in it


 
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 08, 2022, 09:28:09 AM
I LIVE my life, the way I choose to live it, I don't seek or require ANYONE'S APPROVAL
and ABSOLUTELY DON'T CARE about anyone's disapproval

so your faux moral outrage is ridiculous gaslighting
to deflect from the fact, that my posts threaten your fragile ego
which causes you to "lash out"

during WWII my father was stationed in Tidworth, wiltshire UK, to train for a post-Normandy offensive, with the 8th armored div

he had a similar problem to the one I’m having on this VERY BOARD!

an American NCO’s salary was higher than a British Officer’s
Americans had barracks full of food, booze, coffee, from the USA
Brits were rationed to 2 hotdogs and 2 potatoes per day

Americans were on average, bigger, stronger looking than your average Englishman
and were both attracted to AND BY THE OPPOSITE SEX
cuz of their accents

my daddy loved those English girls so damned much, he ended up marryin one!
It really pissed off ze Englisch mensch!!!  who behaved EXACTLY how YOU are behaving NOW Johny!!

Americans were “over-sexed, over-paid, and over-here”

so yeah, I feel a little strain of that in you Johny, just below the surface…
it looks like you have a REAL BAD case of Penis Envy

denial, ain't a river in Egypt
but you can still swim in it
I’m not the one writing chapter and verse so I’d say the only one with a fragile ego is you.
Also seen by your constant need for validation by posting images of your women and by your broo hah hah and dick waving.
‘Lookie here at the notches on my bedpost, what a stud I am’.

Also some repressed Daddy issues by the looks of it.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 08, 2022, 09:38:50 AM
keep swimmin johny boy, keep swimmin....
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: John Gaunt on July 08, 2022, 10:04:53 AM
keep swimmin johny boy, keep swimmin....
You should take you’re own advice.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: BC on July 08, 2022, 10:42:47 AM
I often wonder why some folks seem to be in need of turning forum topics into discussions about themselves.

Imagine Bill Gates hanging around www.pauper.forum

A bit odd.

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 08, 2022, 10:57:40 AM
RETRACTED...
based on misunderstanding
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: BC on July 08, 2022, 11:37:49 AM
Hmm...

Considering your reply, I take it you feel addressed, krimster?

If so, it might comfort you to know you are not alone.


Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 08, 2022, 11:40:19 AM
I beg your forgivenes!

I'm just in "attack back" mode
sorry...

Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: BC on July 08, 2022, 01:21:58 PM
aww.... let's not be shy with redacting krimster!  I think you stepped up to the plate quite well.


I often wonder why some folks seem to be in need of turning forum topics into discussions about themselves.

so I should’t write in “The First Person” and just dispense with any of that “I/we” perspective business, right?
And intead, only use the “you” perspective, or the “he/she/it/they perspective”

well, if it makes YOU feel any better, then it’s OK, with HE who wrote it…
better?  I don't think so...

so if we were writing about fishing
and I showed a string of mountain trout I caught
that would JUST BE totally inapproriate...
cuz, it's about me...

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

meanwhile, I will defend my freedom, and my voice
free from ANYONE ELSE'S judgement
and WILL repel all who TRY

cry "havoc" and let slip the dogs of war
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 08, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
mucho gracias Amigo!

again sor-ry...

viva Liberté, égalité, fraternité
hip!!hip!!
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 08, 2022, 02:22:42 PM
There’s no way I’d be posting pics of my wife or family on a forum like this.
As for Krim, well, he’s bragged about wanting to get off with his daughters friends, so yes, he’s plenty to be proud of.  :cluebat:

Ah, yes I see what you are saying, you're quite right.

Krim, are any of your daughters friends hot, single and up for a date with a forty something British dude? :cheesy:
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 08, 2022, 02:28:08 PM
no Trench, the secret to survival, is to stay small, and make OTHER PEOPLE MONEY, (which gives them an encentive to make you "off-limits") and meanwhile figure out ways to make money indirectly that doesn't come out of their pockets

hiding offshore income is NOW MUCH harder and takes much more work then it did under the Trump admin.
so it's the ideal retirement time for me
knowing when enough is enough, is important wisdom,
all the major fails I've seen in Russia are almost always about "over-reach"

Sounds strange to want to make other people money but I get where you're coming from, they are going to have interest in protecting you from others and not move against you. How you go about it I guess varies, I'm going to guess that we are not talking 'protection money' here as in a gangster racket. I'm going to guess perhaps (as you mentioned B2B) that you buy stuff off a big fish in the pond and then sell it on and make a profit. Hence as you are a good customer then they have interest in protecting you, am I right?
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 08, 2022, 02:43:05 PM
no, it's more complcated then that
I can't OWN ANYTHING more major there then a house in Russia, without incurring risk

you might say, I find ways to make myself useful
and can sometimes control the invoices of when they buy stuff...
so it's just not visible to them

this is standard practice for people high up in the Russian gov
they're the ones who TAUGHT ME!!



Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 09, 2022, 10:52:30 AM
no, it's more complcated then that
I can't OWN ANYTHING more major there then a house in Russia, without incurring risk

you might say, I find ways to make myself useful
and can sometimes control the invoices of when they buy stuff...
so it's just not visible to them

this is standard practice for people high up in the Russian gov
they're the ones who TAUGHT ME!!

The can't own anything more than a house in Russia I get, similar to Ukraine. As if you have anything of any worth there people will go to take it from you.

The rest I'm not sure I totally get, it sounds like a dodgy accountant lol. I know the Russian Army came a cropper by corrupt Officials/Generals buying poor quality Chinese tyres rather than the decent ones they should have got and pocketing the difference, something like that?
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 09, 2022, 11:24:00 AM
or, if you supply a "commodity" unobtainable in Russia
that lets you set the "price"

then your profit is TRANSPARENT...
if you "do things right"
then to them, it feels like you're doin 'em a favor...

kinda like this
I found ways to make myself "useful"
which wasn't hard at all for me to do there...




Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 09, 2022, 02:42:59 PM
or, if you supply a "commodity" unobtainable in Russia
that lets you set the "price"

then your profit is TRANSPARENT...
if you "do things right"
then to them, it feels like you're doin 'em a favor...

kinda like this
I found ways to make myself "useful"
which wasn't hard at all for me to do there...

Ah I see, I looked up stuff you can't get in Russia:

http://planetrussia.info/2015/07/31/things-you-can-not-buy-in-russia/

My guess it's not one of those on the list ;D

I'm going to guess maybe something more like Weed, legal in California but not so in Russia and from what I've read on Google not in widespread use out there.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: krimster2 on July 09, 2022, 03:42:43 PM
maybe...
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 10, 2022, 03:05:48 AM
maybe...

Well up to you, it's not my scene as I prefer to stick to legal stuff to avoid issues as could end up more trouble than its worth.
Title: Re: FSU Dating Now: War Edition
Post by: Trenchcoat on July 10, 2022, 02:25:34 PM
Krim, I recall you said of recent that COVID hit you real hard even though you had 2 X 2 virus vaccinations. You may already know this but apparently using weed can suppress the immune system, hence why it may have hit you so hard, other than age of course ;D

Here's an article of many on it:

http://www.livescience.com/9008-marijuana-suppresses-immune-system.html