A new Birth at Lifetime Partners, and new services

[Marc Dayton]

 

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We have been looking at a way to offer men the opportunity to use the Lifetime Partners direct E-Mail service without committing you to a one-year membership. We are now exclusively rolling out the following new program.

 

Any non-member can now write without any membership requirements to any ladies of his choice at the lowest cost per letter that any marriage service on the web currently provides.

 

As we don't have any Affiliate programs paying for your E-Mails, they are sent straight to our Tver office, and then translated by our staff employees who is paid a salary not paid by the letter you send or is sent back to you.

 

What you get is what you should get!   A great service at a real price.  An honest dollar for an honest service!

 

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Your biography is displayed in the Tver office. You agree to E-mail 4 ladies of your choice which includes their translated E-Mails sent back to you.  If you only write one lady four times, that's OK too.

 

A one-time set-up fee of $20 will be charge for processing your bio and then also setting up an E-Mail account and then you will send your first four letters free and receive her first four replies free if she responds.

 

After your first four letters, you still have no obligation to us, but if you choose to continue, we will honor the low $2 rate for any letter you send and the same $2 to receive  her replies. 

 

Note:  If any ladies write you first, then all first letters are free to you.  If you decide you like the lady, you write back to her at the same low rate.  Once again, an honest service at an honest price.

 

Payment on all additional E-Mails sent or received will be on the honor system and paid once each week.  Note: Once again, we won't charge you for any lady's first letter which you receive.

 

You will only receive letters written by each lady herself, so if you get a short E-Mail from her, it is the E-Mail she gave to us.  We don't enhance or embellish letters or write letters for the ladies in our program.

 

Before sending any letters, you should always check to make sure that each girl is still active and in the Lifetime Partners program.  There will be no refunds if you don't check first.  With your trial offer, you should send us your Wish List before your initial correspondence.

 

Register today at www.lifetimePartners.com  fill out the free membership form and you will receive 2 Zip Files free of your favorite girls--a $20 value.

 

What is a Zip File?   www.lifetimepartners.com Click here to see the free Dream Bride of the Month.  You will see her free photo album.  This is a Zip File.

 

Join us today by Paypal and pick two free Zip Files of your two favorite ladies.

 

Or Call Marc Dayton for any question you may have.

510-222-8875

559-349-8877 cell

 

P.S. coming soon we will match any offer to travel to Tver by any agency in Tver

Call me for details. With 12 years experience the only U.S. service in Tver. We specialize in the ladies of Tver!

[Jack]

Marc, several of the men I escorted to Tver, and myself, visted with your two local competitors in Tver. Marc let me tell you this, YOU have NO competitors in Tver!

You want service in Tver? You want an agency who will do what they tell you? You want to work with an agency whose service is affordable? You want to work with an agency in Tver who is honest?  Then from my perspective, and the perspective of the clients who also went to Tver, there is only ONE agency in Tver. It's called Lifetime Partners.

[TwoBitBandit]

Marc, several of the men I escorted to Tver, and myself, visted with your two local competitors in Tver. Marc let me tell you this, YOU have NO competitors in Tver!

Jack, I can understand why you might write off BeHappy as not being a competitor... from the stories I've read it sounds like they are right on the border of being an outright scam.

But, do you not think that TverRomance is an honest agency?

I'm just asking... I've never been to Tver.

[Jack]

TwoBit I had wanted to meet Natalia at TverRomance. I would love to have two honest agencies in any city as it really helps the guys to have more than one choice. The TverRomance office is a short walking distance from the Hotel Volga so the first chance I had some free time I went to the office. As some of the guys heard I was going they wanted to come as well so I went to Natalia's office with four other guys.

Met Natalia and her partner, everything seemed fine. Introduced the guys to Natalia and asked her if the guys could go thru their catalogs and computer and see if they could see any ladies of interest. Natalia said fine and the guys started looking, making notes of ladies they would like to meet.

This is one rather large office so Natalia is on one side of the room while I'm on the other and were talking business. She tell's us how long they have been in business, her past association with LTP, etc. Conversation shifts to private meetings and I ask Natalia what was she going to charge each of the guys for any private meeting that is arranged. Now the four guys, who are in the same room, while two are going thru catalogs and two are looking at computer screens, they are all interested in the cost of these private meetings and so keeping one eye on the computer and catalogs, have there other eye (and ear) on Natalia and I as they are anxious to hear Natalia's figure.

"Well, Jack, I don't know what to charge. Normally our price includes the tour, getting the guys to Tver, getting them into there hotel rooms, and you have already done this".

I told Natalia that normally when we bring a group of guys into a city we ask the agency to give our guys a discounted price as usually there are several private meetings that will be set up over the next few days.

I told Natalia that one of her local competitors was charging $25 per private meeting and could she do that. Natlalia shook her head yes and said "I think we can do that".

Some 10-15 minutes pass and I need to go so I excuse myself. I think two of the four guys have given Natalia a list and they go with me and two other guys stayed in Natalia's office looking at ladies.

The rest of the day is going fine until at 4:45pm I get a call from one of the guys, "Jack, what happened to that $25 for private meeting with TverRomance?".  I ask him what's up? "Your suppose to pay $25 for any private meeting that can be arranged". He said that is what he thought but he had just got off the phone with Natalia and said each private meeting was $45.

I told him I understood her to say she would charge $25 a meeting. He told me he saw her shake her head yes and say she could do this. I told him ok, I'll check into it and call him back. I was in the center of the center, by Lenin's statue, so thought I would walk down to TverRomance office, a 15 minute walk, and see what was going on. On the way I ran into one of the guys and so we started talking a bit and with-in a few minutes I get another call from another guy. He said he had just got off the phone with Natalia at TverRomance. She had told him that she had two meetings set up for him, one within the hour, and that each meeting would be $45 each. This guy told Natalia he thought she had said $25 a meeting and Natalia told her no, that the price had not been discussed and that the price would be $45 a meeting.

I asked this guy if he saw Natalia shack her head yes and say she would charge $25, he said yes. I told this guy just to hold on, that I would call him right back, let me call Natalia. I called Natalia on the phone, told her I had just heard from two of the men and they were saying she was charging $45 a meeting.  She said yes. I told her I thought she had agreed to $25 a meeting and she said we had not discussed it.

I said to Natalia that we had discussed this. I told you what a local competitor was charging and you said you could do it for this price and you shook your head yes. She said no, that I was mistaken.  I said ok, hold on a minute. 

The guy I had stopped to talk to in the center was standing next to me. He was one of the four guys who was in Natalia's office five hours earlier. I asked him did he see Natalia shack her head yes to meetings for $25. He said yes. I said "Here, please tell Natalia that".

This guy took the phone, said hello to Natalia and introduced himself. He told Natalia he saw her shake her head yes to the $25 meeting and heard her say, "I think we can do that". Natalia told him he was mistaken. The guy gave the phone back to me.

I told Natalia that all four men and myself could not all be mistaken. Then Natalia said, "A little birdie told me you were not paying $25 a meeting with the other agency". I told Natlalia she had better check again with her little birdie, she was getting some wrong information.

So that was my, our, experience with Natalia at TverRomance. I don't need to see anymore from this agency owner to know that she is someone I do not want to work with or could recommend to my clients.

[Fiorella]

Mark,

1) Could you comment the fact that your collegue spread the rumors about your female clients? How (and WHO) your female clients could trust you after that?

..The first one is Elena *****, well known to me as a matter of fact. My advice, drop her, NOW!!! She was dating my friend Greg from ********** & also my friend John from *********** with the same results in both cases. Believe me when I tell you this is one lady you do not want to be involved with. She is a high priced prostitute in Moscow & is usually only in Tver on the weekends. Her mother takes care of her kid 90% of the time. Her only goal is to fleece you out of as much money as she possibly can & she hates me with a passion because I won't put up with her 'I'm better than you cr@p'. She walks into the office with her nose in the air like her shit don't stink & expects everybody to kiss her a$s.

She owns two apartments, the last one she paid $50,000.00 US cash for and if you can tell me anywhere else a Single Russian Mother can come up with that kinda coin I'd be pleased to hear it. My sources are pretty reliable & have no reason to tell me other than like it is(in fact it was her who bragged about the apartment to Greg) & my understanding is as well as being a pro on the weekends she has a rich Russian Boyfriend about 70 years old in Moscow that keeps her in furs & luxury. With my two friends she was very plain spoken about the fact that they better have lots of money, cause she likes to spend it & on the best & most expensive. So you be the judge. My advice, RUN FORREST RUN!!!!

To Jack:

What did you mean with "private meeting"?

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[Marc Dayton]

Mark,

1) Could you comment the fact that your collegue spread the rumors about your female clients? How (and WHO) your female clients could trust you after that?

Fiorella

In the past we have had many problems with employee's we take a hard stance on the manner any man or woman has been treated by A staff members. The office staff has had many cat fights. Just like the men haveing pissing contest.

Natasha Runs a Russian style office, and we have some driffrences in how females our treated, but I find there is allways two sides to each story, it dose not make it O.K. but it happends all the time. The main problem is that the Russian woman who do think they our better then others will 100% talk bad about other RW Just like your freind who talks bad about Village Girls.

I have a question for you who our you talking about Elena. Maybe your talking about two driffrent girls or I missed something here is she part of tverromance? or someone from a driffrent service.

I am sorry, but I am lost about who she is and what she has to do with Jack's post. 

 

 



 

[Marc Dayton]

P.S.

A private meeting is a 1 hour honest meeting.

[Fiorella]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

P.S.

A private meeting is a 1 hour honest meeting.

And who will be ready to pay for 1 hour of honest talk with girl???

[Marc Dayton]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

P.S.

A private meeting is a 1 hour honest meeting.

And who will be ready to pay for 1 hour of honest talk with girl???

Fiorella

Whats the point, and what our you looking for here. Who pays for a meeting is not inportent as long as and agreed price was paid by Jack or by the men that were meeting the girls.

You make all these coments about Elene that are vary bad, but you dont clear them up so we know what your talking about or who your talking about.

I don't understand your thinking. Are you just trying to look for something that you can twist to make someone look bad to make yourslef look good. At this point your not looking to good. Please exsplane to all of us what your trying to do here.

Are you mad at Natasha or Elena or Jack or what. My gess is your just trying to change what this post is about to serve your own needs.

 

[Fiorella]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

P.S.

A private meeting is a 1 hour honest meeting.

And who will be ready to pay for 1 hour of honest talk with girl???

Fiorella

Whats the point, and what our you looking for here. Who pays for a meeting is not inportent as long as and agreed price was paid by Jack or by the men that were meeting the girls.

You make all these coments about Elene that are vary bad, but you dont clear them up so we know what your talking about or who your talking about.

I don't understand your thinking. Are you just trying to look for something that you can twist to make someone look bad to make yourslef look good. At this point your not looking to good. Please exsplane to all of us what your trying to do here.

Are you mad at Natasha or Elena or Jack or what. My gess is your just trying to change what this post is about to serve your own needs.

 

Marc, I did not one bad word about Elena - it was a man who was talking bad about her to other men who was interested in know her...

[Marc Dayton]

Marc, I did not one bad word about Elena - it was a man who was talking bad about her to other men who was interested in know her...

Fiorella,

Can you at least tell us who is connected to this Elena. If she is on LTP site or BH or TR site. If you wont say it on this post please e-mail name and info to me in privet.

lifematch2@aol.com

[Maxx]

I know all about the above posts because I was the man who recieved the warning.

The "Elena" in question is just one lady in Tver that I had selected as a possibility to write to but passed on. A friend gave me this advice. I without thinking (not the first time) posted his letter as an example of a friend looking out for a guy's back.

What happened next was that a certain Russian lady that I think well of (it's true!) got very offended by this and drew attention to it in a big way in a very LOUD thread. It was about guy's gossiping etc. Of course all the Russian women rushed to see what all the fuss was about. One such lady I  believe was Natasha at Tver Romance. I will tell you why I believe this in a bit. When this happened I immediately defended this friend by saying that I had been writing a lady in Tver but I had some agency trouble that he spotted for me. He was watching my back and was doing the same in this instance. What was going on there was this.

I had contacted a certain woman by the name of Svetlana, mid 30's. Svetlana had a teenage year son. She came as a recomendation from a AM/RW couple who met her in Tver. I was told they could get her address for me and I could contact her direct or go through TverRomance. I opted for using TR (TverRomance).

We exchanged letters for a while through TR. Then I got her address and contacted her direct. I did this by having a RW that my friend knew deliver and pickup the letters I sent her by E-mail. This went on for about a month. I had almost no activity through TR during that time. Then on January 28th I get two letters from Svetlana. Below is one of them.

 Dear Maxx,

      I want to start wit telling you that I am really sorry for not writing
to you for such a long time. You might have thought that I forgot about you.
No, I didn't, I think about you very often. But in every day routine I just
don't always have a chance to stop and think. Life is passing by taking the
best years and unfortunately we don't think about it until it's too late.

      Maxx, thank you for telling about your job, it was very interesting
to know what exactly you do. Our profession and especially yours is not very
common and it's so interesting that we got together at all. With your every
letter I am more and more convinced that we have very much in common. The
way we think, the way we treat different things, our views on family and
life and more. I hope our personal meeting will add to my positive opinion
about you and our acquaintance.

      Maxx, you asked me about how much English I know. I leant English
before going to the US and could speak it pretty good. Of course I had
problems discussing serious issues but I knew enough to get around without
help. I went to the US as a fianc?e and had serious intentions to be with
this man but he appeared to be different from what he was like in Russia. So
I left back home and now without practice I have forgotten much of what I
used to know. But I think it will be not very difficult for me to remember.

      Grisha is fine and says Hi to you. He had great time at my parents',
he likes spending time there. I celebrated the New Year's with my close
friends. That day at work was very busy and I was very tired. At the end of
the working day all my colleagues and our boss wished each other all the
best in the new year. When I came home I had some rest, put on my new dress
that I had made for myself specially for this event and went to my friends.
We had much fun and I was glad I joined them. We let off fireworks, went
outside as the weather was really great. I also called to ***** from time to
time to see how Grisha and my family were. When the chimes were striking
midnight I made wishes but I would like to keep them a secret otherwise they
may not come true.

      Maxx, I will finish here and hope you don't get offended that I can't
reply to your letters right away.

      Best wishes, Svetlana

Only this letter didn't come from Svetlana. It came from the creative offices of TverRomance. She had left that job and her colleagues and no more boss as she was now self employed 

My friend wrote this:

You mentioned to Svetlana that you received 2 letters from her & we
called her to find out why she wrote you through TR when you were with
us & just wanted to clarify the situation.
The result was, 'She did not write the letter you got from TR'.
She was emphatic about the fact that she did not write you a letter
through TR. So my question is if she didn't write it, who did?
I told her not to say anything to TR at this time as I want to see how
far they are willing to take this. What possesses these people
to have to cheat all the time? I am truly upset about this as I was
really hoping Natasha was running a legit operation & now I find out
otherwise.

I wrote back: 

What I think is going on is this. The agency has got no correspondence from
me for about a month. And apparently none from Svetlana. They are probably
wondering why after I sent $60 in flowers and $120 for 3 months of
"unlimited letter writing"( LOL) why I have not used their service. I think
they want to keep me stimulated so that I renew my membership in 2 months
AND possibly book a romance tour ($1750 to $5150) when I come.

I am open for suggestions on how to string TR along. I think it best to
allay their suspicions. Perhaps I can write "Svetlana" a bogus "Dear
Jane-nova" letter?  

Then I added:

Then suggest to TR that I start writing to another lady? Then do
all my letter writing through you for Svetlana. Or forget about this as
this may tick Svetlana off and tell TR I will think about writing another
lady but I don't know who yet? The situation is the agency may rile Svetlana
up with this other woman. I don't want that. You know how some of these women are (Donna Pedro is an excellent example). They want their man to be a WOVO or else. Meanwhile they are fielding letters from other guys. I just do not a have a feel for the situation with Svetlana. Perhaps if she was brought in
on the scheme (LOL, this is really funny when you think about it, LOL)?

Actually this is a really good thing. It shows Svetlana the agency tricks. Perhaps Sveta will understand the tricks done to me in by Elvira with the help of her agency (I was sold to her for my US citizenship and paid for by the money she scammed out of me when I helped her with her mother's "emergency").

Maxx

   What happened next was that I ignored TR. I did not respond to them when they sent me a reminder about Valentines Day coming and how flowers and chocolates were available for delivery by them. Instead I sent flowers and chocolates without them. The flowers were a big hit with Svetlana. Things were progressing nicely. I was starting to get those day dreams of a loving wife, a family and a son. Then "bang!" I made my post. I needed to defend my friend. So I made myself known that I appreciated his help and protection. I knew that Natasha reads that board but it was more important to me that I defend my friend.

So what happened next was I get a message from Svetlana through TR. She wants me to call her at that agency. She also told me thanks for the Valentines Day flowers I sent her (NOT through TR). What had me wondering was why she even went there? She knew they had generated a bogus letter in her name. So why have anything to do with these people? During that time over the next 5 days I tried to have my contacts in Tver contact her. Her phone was turned off. She didn't answer the door.

Finally the day arrived and I called her through the TR office. The conversation went well. Afterwards I asked to speak to Natasha. I taped this entire conversation. I told Natasha what had happened. That I had contacted Svetlana outside their agency. How I had gotten a letter from Svetalana from her agency that she did not write. Natasha of course knew nothing about this. I said to her "Perhaps one of your interpreters wrote it?"  I very politely but firmly told Natasha that I am withdrawing my membership with TR and that I wanted to continue writing Svetlana independent of them. I told her I wanted no interferance. She said "Of course" and that was it.

After that I got only one letter from Svetlana. It was lifeless. Svetlana is a quiet woman. I was told she had a gentle and kind nature. I feel really bad I got her involved in this mess. Svetlana had said she had given up on the idea of using an agency. But TR still has her profile posted. I doubt if they would be willing to let one of their Star attractions leave unless they get paid off from some man booking an expensive tour (about $250 a day), meeting her and filing a K-1.

So I dropped all this as Svetlana probably dropped me.  

LTP was not involved with this in anyway. Svetlana is not on their site. The woman named "Elena" was from another agency or two....

IMO RW have more to fear from each other than they do from AM.

I have written extensively to only 3 Russian women. The first was Irina in Ekaterinburg. She told me she had been threatened by an agency owner named "Tatyana" to give me up. They had another woman intended for me, an Elena B. They ever tried to slyly set me up with her when I was there.

 The next Russian woman was my ex-Russian wife Elvira. She after talking to the agency "lawyer" about "immigration" fled Russia in a panic. Then she had me wire money back to Russia to help with her mother's "emergency". My detectives proved there was no emergency. I had previous to all of this been asked to set up a credit card process business in America with my Russian economist wife to run it. I had passed as I knew it could be risky with other FSU agency partners brought into the network. I worried they would scam AM and I and my wife would be held accountable. I was given the exclusive contract between that agency and their American partner to study. It gave the terms and bank account numbers and routing information. I still have this English/Russian contract in my files as proof I am not making this stuff up. I could post it? Edited out all for the confidental things of course.

The last of the three Russian woman I wrote to was Svetlana.

Interesting to me was I was told by my friend in Tver, who does not work for LTP, that LTP was an honest agency. He knows what he speaks.

Maxx

[BeenThere]

This may be the right thread to post my question. I posted this in the Starting Out section and got a total of 0 responses. Here are my questions:

I have heard some positive comments about one of the full service agencies out there.

But, they specifically state that no contact information can be exchanged in the correspondence.

So, my question is WHEN can the contact information be exchanged? How long do I have to keep emailing the girl before I am allowed to directly contact her.

The agency I was referring to is called Lifetimepartners/Goldenringbrides.

They seem to have a good rep. And one of their ladies particularly caught my eye.

So, my question is, what am i in for if I sign up with them? Or other similar full service agencies?

And how do i know that I am actually communicating with the girl and not one of their office employees?

And regarding this offer being presented here, does this new trial membership allow full contact information exchange or is it still the same deal?

[Marc Dayton]

BeenThere

For years we have had one gold thats to help men and Russian Women find Marriage we don't  sell or give out your or her personal info. When you meet these girls if she wants you to have her contack info she will be the one to give to you.

The post you your reading should tell you something about Lifetime Partners?

I will be glad to exsplane any questions you have, but I am a phone person. E-mails our just not my thing.

 

 

[BeenThere]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

When you meet these girls if she wants you to have her contack info she will be the one to give to you.

When I meet these girls? As in, if I were to come to Tver and meet them? Do I have to correspond with these girls through your agency till the point that I actually meet them in person?

[Marc Dayton]

BeenThere

 

O.K. I will bite just to see if you're trying to bate me.

 

There our many types of site, and service who call what they do (A marriage service).

They will sell you anything you want, and that includes Igor who took a nice sexy photo of his wife! Hell I can dress up in a wig, and dress if I look good they will sell you my info too.

 

Then there are real Marriage agencies that have a higher standard of service. We at Lifetime Partners look at not only your needs, but at the RW needs too. Many Russian Woman don't want there contact info sold to any man that wants it.

 

Did you stop and think that she may want some protection from men that our not nice men like you. If she wanted her info out there it would be there. Any RW can use any type of service she wants just like you have the choice to use a full service agency or to use something else.

 

The RW that don't like a full service agency will go to other agency for many reasons. One of those reasons is the main benefit to you. We prevent them from scamming men like the story above in this post. They know that LTP will kick them out of our service so they just go to other agencies in town or to sites that don't care about you or the time you spent bounding with a RW that's not good or 100% serous about you.

 

Old fashion RW doesn't want to be scammed by men who will never go to meet them. Men that our on sex trips, or by freaks that send them photos in the nude, and ask for freaky photos of her. So look at her side of the story too.

 

The last 5 years men our getting scammed at will because they want to do it there way  cut corners take short cuts men just want to re invent the wheel in other words men just put them self's at risks. RW our smart and the men that they scam our even smarter. They have one thing in common they say it won't happen to me, and they look for insurance.

 

Once he finds this so called insurance he feels safe at least safer, and that when he starts to trust, and that's what puts him in a high risk of being scammed.  If you want car insurance you buy it if you want scam insurance you're out of luck. An honest full service agency tries to stop auto accidents before they happen because there is no insurance for romance.

 

 

I hope you understand my writing I know its bad?.

[Bruno]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

An honest ... agency tries to stop auto accidents before they happen because there is no insurance for romance.

I have say that i post no more but here, i cannot resist... Marc, we have know some fight in the past but now, what you have write is the best definition of the work of honest marriage agency that i have never see...

 

[Marc Dayton]

Hi Bruno,

I don't understand your post. I don't know if your responce was good or bad. The post was just a way of writeing its not how the full service works.

 

[Bruno]

[user=170]Marc Dayton[/user] wrote:

Hi Bruno,

I don't understand your post. I don't know if your responce was good or bad. The post was just a way of writeing its not how the full service works.

 

It is good... it was a compliment... i don't comment the rest of the post but only what i have quote... i have remove the "full service"... and this give the perfect general definition of a honest marriage agency...

[Marc Dayton]

Bruno Thanks,

I know you mean well with your post if you have something to say I think you should say it.

 

Take care

[BeenThere]

Marc,

I am not trying to bate you. Everybody says that you run an honest agency.

But, you still have not answered my question.

At what point do I obtain the lady's contact information?

I am not such a inexperienced fool in matters of love that I will not know when I am trying to be scammed. Of course, you can never be sure, but I am not one to fall in love with a pretty picture and mortgage my house to send a girl money.

I perfectly understand the need to protect these ladies as well. If i was a beautiful russian woman, I would not want my address being giving out to anybody who asks. There are many crazy guys out there.

But, if I start communication with a lady through your agency and SHE SENDS ME her contact information through your service will you delete it?

Or do I have to come to Russia, pay your agency for meeting her and then get the contact information directly from her once I meet her?

[Marc Dayton]

Beenthere.

We our not the service for you we dont sell address or phone mumbers if you don't want a full service why?

[andrewfi]

Been There ~ Perhaps Marc's final response says it all! He would prefer not to deal with you.

It makes some sense to 'protect' women. I tend to agree with Marc and Kevin in this regard, but there is a point at which one must question just who is protecting whom and from what. To simply not allow the information to be passed to you by a willing female client smacks of protectionism of the business and not its clients, either male or female. Kevin at Kherson Girls used to be the same, but he has modified the approach and if a woman is willing then the information can be passed to the guy. In order to protect the income stream of the business (a valid concern) he charges a significant sum for that information. Seems to be a decent compromise and one that could well work for LTP and others.

Bottom line is that an agency's stock in trade is its women, or at least their pictures, this is what it sells, without them there is nothing. Some agencies monetise their product by providing email addresses and other contact info, others by providing a full range of cllient coddling services. The two approaches are pretty much incompatible, for smaller operations at least.

If you do not like the approach of one agency, choose another. There are plenty of places where you can buy pictures of relatively attractive women, no agency has a monopoly on pictures of women for you to fall in love with.

[Maxx]

From what I have heard from clients of LTP both past and present and from a guy that used to work there, LTP does not generate false letters and screens out scammers and pro-daters. In other words it is honest. However honesty does come at a cost for LTP. LTP does not get a scammers revenue so it must make it's income in another way. It does this in the form of being a full service agency. Simply you want access or an address you must book a tour through them. The cost of a honest full service agency is in my opinion and experience far cheaper than dealing with the other kind.

Maxx

[Bruno]

From what I have heard from clients of LTP both past and present and from a guy that used to work there, LTP does not generate false letters and screens out scammers and pro-daters. In other words it is honest. However honesty does come at a cost for LTP. LTP does not get a scammers revenue so it must make it's income in another way. It does this in the form of being a full service agency. Simply you want access or an address you must book a tour through them. The cost of a honest full service agency is in my opinion and experience far cheaper than dealing with the other kind.

Maxx

Maxx, i will not go in the polemic, i have already speak about this before but be a high prised agency don't mean a honest agency and be a free or cheap agency don't mean that they have income from scammer...

And i find that i am a good example... my site is free, i make some check for remove scammer... i earn nothing : 300$ income in 9 month and 385$ expense... and i don't count the time used... in some way, it is like charity...

The big difference between me and Marc are the service... i don't organize meeting, i don't hire appartment, i don't make translation, i don't send gifts, i don't make three way call,...

With Marc of other agency, you have no specialy a big difference over the ladies herself... they can lie to Marc over her true intention too... what you pay are the side service... my site is more like a free newspaper full with ads... you have the contact data for free but don't hope some help in your relation, meeting, marriage, ... it is your own work...

Man without knowlegde over the process have more interest to use Marc system... people who are enough informed, who know almost all, can use my system for contact only...

No one is good of bad... "we are different with different public"... sorry Marc, i have use your own citation...