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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #75 on: August 11, 2020, 10:15:51 PM »

One day of workout per week isn't going to make you much better
than you are now, certainly not ripped. I've played college basketball
and have been trained by experts.

You make more excuses than a Russian girl who doesn't want to give
out her phone number. Either you want this or you don't. You sorta
want this as long as you aren't arsed to do anything about it.

This is off topic, just curious who did you play college basketball for? And how many years? Don't think I would last one season. College sports can be very arduous I imagine.

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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #76 on: August 11, 2020, 10:21:01 PM »
Trench, like Bill when I was younger 16-19, I was on the verge of being drafted to the AFL. Unfortunately I had a run of injuries that put an end to that. I trained and worked out with professional guidance and had a similar physique to the guy in the picture. To achieve that it took 6 weight sessions of 1-2 hours a week and 30 km of running for cardio because I was an on the ball player.

Sure you have to rest your muscles, but that’s why you do arms and chest one day, legs the next day then back the following day. Also if you’re not strictly sticking to your diet and putting the right food and supplements in your body, you will struggle for results. If you want to look like that guy in 3 years (that’s what’s required.... a daily comment for years) it takes dedication, sacrifice, time and for most a lifestyle change indefinitely. To maintain that physique you will need to keep up the daily gym routine for life. At 19 I’d stopped working out and by age 22 I’d lost all my gains.

My Apartment neighbour in Russia is a body builder and he spends  a minimum of 4 hours in the gym a day and 6 hours leading up to  a competition. He still managed to hold down a full time job and 2 girlfriends. 

On the sit ups / push ups..... If you can’t smash out 100 of each in 10-15 minutes after a two week build up you’re not trying. It’s like everything in life if you put in the effort you will see results. That goes for losing weight, building muscle, making more money and even dating.  If you do it half arsed you’ll achieve nothing.

I prefer women who like me exactly as I am, fortunately I find those because being somewhat cocky and charming works great.
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #77 on: August 11, 2020, 10:32:22 PM »
why not get paid for working out?
seriously, do roofing
if you work everyday, 100% you will get a workout
you need to be able to lift 160 lb of shingles onto your shoulder and balance
while you RUN up the ladder with it
and then hammer these shingles with a heavy hammer
do this 5 days or 6 days a week for 6 months
and you will be ROCK SOLID...
and if you had worked continuously for 6 months , you'd almost have enough for a house down payment as well

Previously weren't you climbing towers for air traffic controllers and now you're claiming you were a roofer? Which one was it?

                   
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #78 on: August 11, 2020, 10:38:01 PM »
Forget the jacket, Trench. Arrange you meet-ups in a nudist area, no expensive wardrobe needed. I recommend leaving your laptop and other devices at your apartment. ;D

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/07/german-nudist-chases-wild-boar-that-stole-laptop-berlin-teufelssee

Hilarious article but human interest
is the only thing of value at "the Guardian" a prog tabloid otherwise.
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2020, 10:55:22 PM »
Trench, like Bill when I was younger 16-19, I was on the verge of being drafted to the AFL. Unfortunately I had a run of injuries that put an end to that. I trained and worked out with professional guidance and had a similar physique to the guy in the picture. To achieve that it took 6 weight sessions of 1-2 hours a week and 30 km of running for cardio because I was an on the ball player.

Sure you have to rest your muscles, but that’s why you do arms and chest one day, legs the next day then back the following day. Also if you’re not strictly sticking to your diet and putting the right food and supplements in your body, you will struggle for results.

Thanks Davo it's good to finally have a better idea of what the tipping point may be :) I see now from what you put the sort of extra work I would have to do. I'm just kind of interested in upper body half, so chest and muscles mostly. Do you reckon if I did 3 sessions of upper body work (for an hour or so) with the free weights I could look like that guy, upper body wise in about 2-3 years?

My diet is not too bad, I improved it a bit though I regressed a bit recently but I think I know what to do now to make it a bit better. Kind of interesting to know that it takes so long and the commitment needed. Some guys I kind of had the impression that they work out a little then bingo it all pops up lol.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2020, 11:07:36 PM by Trenchcoat »
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2020, 11:05:28 PM »
why not get paid for working out?
seriously, do roofing
if you work everyday, 100% you will get a workout
you need to be able to lift 160 lb of shingles onto your shoulder and balance
while you RUN up the ladder with it
and then hammer these shingles with a heavy hammer
do this 5 days or 6 days a week for 6 months
and you will be ROCK SOLID...
and if you had worked continuously for 6 months , you'd almost have enough for a house down payment as well

Yeah, working out whilst getting paid for it isn't a bad idea. Being a roofer would not suit me as I don't like heights and it can be dangerous. I would want to avoid stuff where I could potentially end up in a worse state.

The other issue is that I dare'nt leave my job at the moment. It's a pretty easy going but also pretty secure job at a time when a lot of people are losing their jobs. I would be jumping from the fat into the fire if I left I think. Only becoming very wealthy would make me want to leave my job at the moment. I get the point though if I brought muscle building into my everyday life through work it would be a much more natural and easier fit :)
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What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #81 on: August 12, 2020, 06:08:28 AM »
Yeah but they say you need to give your muscles a rest between workouts so that the damage done has a chance to repair itself and form muscle. They say about an hour or so two or three times per week is optimal.

Nobody says that. You twist things around so that you can be extra
lazy. If somebody says 4-5 your mind says 2-3 because it's easier.
Go back and read what you've written in a previous post. You worked
out ONE DAY per week. Nobody told you 2 days, yet
your plan was one day.

They say the MINIMUM is three days per week. The absolute bare
minimum. The optimum is 6 days per week with ONE day of rest.
Cardio and your core should be every day.

It's totally idiotic to only workout your upper body. You selected
that idea so that you could be more lazy.

Nobody says two.

You are doing Europe on $2.50 per day again. You are as poor as
a church mouse, yet here is something that costs almost nothing.

You can't be poor (and you are) AND lazy AND have mediocre
social skills AND put in little effort AND try every shortcut AND
have no common sense AND make excuses AND believe that
you can have somebody young and attractive AND find a girl
who wants you to be in charge AND be a man with screwed up
beliefs about roles in a relationship AND who wants you to make
a baby inside of them.

Trench you need to do the maximum at everything to have a
chance not 30% of the absolute bare minimum.

How frequently do you take a shower or brush your teeth? Once
per month? Twice? Do you know in the middle ages they took one
bath per year? Why should you do more than them? Do you know
that pheromones part of what attract women? Yet you are washing
those valuable pheromones off during your frequent trimonthly
showering.

The guys on this forum have spent many hours giving you advice
that you ignore unless you can twist it into something that means
less effort on your part.

Right now, I could walk into the kitchen and kiss my beautiful
wife on the neck and she will really, really, really like it. Yet here
I am dispensing advice for you to ignore.

My wife's neck is going to get kissed right now.
I've wasted enough cyber time on you.

Zdravyy smysl, poprobuyte!

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FSUW don't do vague
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #82 on: August 12, 2020, 08:00:46 AM »
“I prefer women who like me exactly as I am, fortunately I find those because being somewhat cocky and charming works great. “



I’m guessing that’s just part of the reason why YOU are, have been, and always will remain an INCEL...
who will receive ALL his sexual gratification from watching porn coupled with obsessive over-masturbation
which leads to severe mental impairment!!
and that there’s a LOT more to go along with that,
I mean, besides your delusions and wishful thinking about "one day" finding an actual girlfriend....

fortunately, for human society, your chance of reproducing
is very, very, small, kinda like your “you know what”




“Previously weren't you climbing towers for air traffic controllers and now you're claiming you were a roofer? Which one was it?

BOTH, and several more besides that, including military service....
I’ve mastered THINGS you haven’t even heard of yet, so move along sonny there must be a QAnon blog somewhere for you to post your pro-Trump ass kissing nonsense

Cornfed, don't assume other people are always gonna be "just like you"
sometimes you meet somone who isn't

what were you doing when you were 18, Confed?
I was serving my country on the Thailand/Vietnam border as a radar operator
look how bad-ass I looked when I was 18
scary huh?
that’s why I was recruited into a special program
created by rogue West Point officers to take over the drug trade in the Golden Triangle under the guise of fighting communism, which ironically enough we were actually doing as well
because they happened to also be the competition

I was the perfect baby faced killer
no one looking at me, could ever in a million years guess I was there to kill them (especially when I dressed in expensive civilian clothes and fake thick framed glasses, hair dyed a different color)
ironic with my family's background in the top level of the Philadelphia Jewish Mafia in the bootlegging business
the first "gang" I worked for was the US military
and we made GOOD money in those days
and the contacts we forged and knowledge gained was worth even more later!

so no, I'm not really much like you Confed...
when the pic below was taken, I'd already killed people in two countries and I was just 18 yr old
that number is larger now, of course...


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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #83 on: August 12, 2020, 10:08:14 AM »
Nobody says that. You twist things around so that you can be extra
lazy. If somebody says 4-5 your mind says 2-3 because it's easier.
Go back and read what you've written in a previous post. You worked
out ONE DAY per week. Nobody told you 2 days, yet
your plan was one day.

They say the MINIMUM is three days per week. The absolute bare
minimum. The optimum is 6 days per week with ONE day of rest.
Cardio and your core should be every day.

It's totally idiotic to only workout your upper body. You selected
that idea so that you could be more lazy.

Nobody says two.

You are doing Europe on $2.50 per day again. You are as poor as
a church mouse, yet here is something that costs almost nothing.

You can't be poor (and you are) AND lazy AND have mediocre
social skills AND put in little effort AND try every shortcut AND
have no common sense AND make excuses AND believe that
you can have somebody young and attractive AND find a girl
who wants you to be in charge AND be a man with screwed up
beliefs about roles in a relationship AND who wants you to make
a baby inside of them.

Trench you need to do the maximum at everything to have a
chance not 30% of the absolute bare minimum.

How frequently do you take a shower or brush your teeth? Once
per month? Twice? Do you know in the middle ages they took one
bath per year? Why should you do more than them? Do you know
that pheromones part of what attract women? Yet you are washing
those valuable pheromones off during your frequent trimonthly
showering.

The guys on this forum have spent many hours giving you advice
that you ignore unless you can twist it into something that means
less effort on your part.

Right now, I could walk into the kitchen and kiss my beautiful
wife on the neck and she will really, really, really like it. Yet here
I am dispensing advice for you to ignore.

My wife's neck is going to get kissed right now.
I've wasted enough cyber time on you.

Zdravyy smysl, poprobuyte!

Well I started off doing gym three times a week for one hour. My employer changed my hours so I could only then fit in gym two times a week. Then my Employer changed my hours again! So then I could only do gym once a week.

Then the Coronavirus came along and there is no way I'm going to the gym for a long while. So I'm going to have to do the gym stuff at home. Problems have gotten in the way but they (hopefully) should be resolved now by which I mean maintenance stuff needing doing and making the place a bit more secure as the economy goes south.

Now theoretically I could still get in three sessions of home gym a week but there is nearly always some other stuff that needs doing so one is more likely. If I get the chance I will try and get back to doing it two or three times a week. I do a fair bit of exercise doing my house up so any small gains I've got I have probably mostly still kept.

Thank you for the insight though Bill I much appreciate it, it gives me a better idea of where I need to get to and what sort of input is required :)

I know you think I'm being lazy but improving myself in all areas more or less at the same time means my time is split and I only have so much time to devote to each hence why the results in some areas have been a bit mediocre. The way I view it though is better to get going in all areas so then at least I improve at least a little there rather than it at all.

My ultimate goal is to come across more impressive in all areas to the ladies.
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« Reply #84 on: August 12, 2020, 11:36:15 AM »
Well I started off doing gym three times a week for one hour.

You started out doing the absolute bare minimum. The least amount
that ANYBODY would ever recommend.




My employer changed my hours so I could only then fit in gym two times a week. Then my Employer changed my hours again! So then I could only do gym once a week.

You work part time. How many hours a week is it? 20?
You are making silly excuses. You really, really, really
sound like a 13 year old boy explaining why he did a
mediocre job cutting the yard and skipped over a few
spots.

Do you want to list your work hours for the last week for the
peanut gallery here to tear you apart?

Stop with the excuses, snowflakes need not apply.



Then the Coronavirus came along and there is no way I'm going to the
gym for a long while.

More excuses? Seriously? Do you think that there is a single member
on this forum who doesn't work more hours than you do? Do you think
a single member of this forum doesn't have more family responsibilities
than you do?

Stop it. Excuses are like @ssholes and they all stink.


Now theoretically I could still

Theoretically you could still aim for the absolute bare minimum that
any athletic trainer would recommend. Then when you miss a day
you will do less than the absolute minimum.

Set it up so that you do it every single day with zero days off. Then
Take off one day per week at random, but only if you achieve learning
ten words every day for the entire week.

Don't make excuses lame or otherwise. Place your index finger on your
forehead, then you will know that you have your finger on the problem
(or the solution).

« Last Edit: August 12, 2020, 11:51:50 AM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2020, 11:49:31 AM »
This is off topic, just curious who did you play college basketball for? And how many years? Don't think I would last one season. College sports can be very arduous I imagine.

I played Junior College Ball in Oregon. Later I transferred to Oregon
State. I was good enough to make the team there but not good
enough to start so I became a student with a job instead. I played
Summer league with a bunch of division one players and players
who played in the NBA but my job was what put food on the table.

That's probably too much information for the peanut gallery.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #86 on: August 12, 2020, 12:05:21 PM »
haha

I played in all white high school, in college, I played in try-outs against "brothers" a FOOT freaking taller than me!!!!
for one try-out then I quit basketball after that
and switched over to HW boxing
fortunately stopped before TOO much brain damage, j-j-j-just a little bit

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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2020, 12:54:33 PM »
I played Junior College Ball in Oregon. Later I transferred to Oregon
State. I was good enough to make the team there but not good
enough to start so I became a student with a job instead. I played
Summer league with a bunch of division one players and players
who played in the NBA but my job was what put food on the table.

That's probably too much information for the peanut gallery.


I refer you to your own advice above ;D
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2020, 01:00:38 PM »
You started out doing the absolute bare minimum. The least amount
that ANYBODY would ever recommend.




You work part time. How many hours a week is it? 20?
You are making silly excuses. You really, really, really
sound like a 13 year old boy explaining why he did a
mediocre job cutting the yard and skipped over a few
spots.

Do you want to list your work hours for the last week for the
peanut gallery here to tear you apart?

Stop with the excuses, snowflakes need not apply.



More excuses? Seriously? Do you think that there is a single member
on this forum who doesn't work more hours than you do? Do you think
a single member of this forum doesn't have more family responsibilities
than you do?

Stop it. Excuses are like @ssholes and they all stink.


Theoretically you could still aim for the absolute bare minimum that
any athletic trainer would recommend. Then when you miss a day
you will do less than the absolute minimum.

Set it up so that you do it every single day with zero days off. Then
Take off one day per week at random, but only if you achieve learning
ten words every day for the entire week.

Don't make excuses lame or otherwise. Place your index finger on your
forehead, then you will know that you have your finger on the problem
(or the solution).



I do 29 hours per week (every week) in my job and most of my spare days are on spent on my house conversion. Other time sorting out problems that crop up or work on myself.

You're kind of right though Bill I need to be stepping it up a bit more now so will plan to put in more work into gym, language stuff, etc. I think my schedule is easing now to allow for me to do that and move forward from what I planned :)
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2020, 01:10:02 PM »
I played Junior College Ball in Oregon. Later I transferred to Oregon
State. I was good enough to make the team there but not good
enough to start so I became a student with a job instead. I played
Summer league with a bunch of division one players and players
who played in the NBA but my job was what put food on the table.

That's probably too much information for the peanut gallery.

Did you ever get to meet Gary Payton or his son?
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2020, 02:03:16 PM »
why not get paid for working out?
seriously, do roofing
if you work everyday, 100% you will get a workout
you need to be able to lift 160 lb of shingles onto your shoulder and balance
while you RUN up the ladder with it
and then hammer these shingles with a heavy hammer
do this 5 days or 6 days a week for 6 months
and you will be ROCK SOLID...
and if you had worked continuously for 6 months , you'd almost have enough for a house down payment as well

My initial response:
Previously weren't you climbing towers for air traffic controllers and now you're claiming you were a roofer? Which one was it?

                   

Most roofs are loaded by conveyer belt. A roof such as a Victorian house will likely be loaded by a man assigned to carry the shingles up scaffolding while more experienced roofers install the shingles but only after the tear off has been accomplished.

The hammer for asphalt shingles isn't heavy either.

You're an accomplished story teller but that's about all. If there's a grain of truth in any of your stories it's been embellished 10 fold or 100 fold.

Nice try geezer (your own honest description of yourself).
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #91 on: August 12, 2020, 02:48:22 PM »
"Most roofs are loaded by conveyer belt. A roof such as a Victorian house will likely be loaded by a man assigned to carry the shingles up scaffolding while more experienced roofers install the shingles but only after the tear off has been accomplished.
"

you CAN do it that way, if you have the $$$, but if you don't, you can do it the old way, of balancing 2 sacks of shingles on your shoulders
and literally RUN up the ladder...

gee, how could I POSSIBLY know this...

you don't think the hammer is heavy?
spend 4-5 hours with it EVERY DAY and tell me what you think...

once more, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about, do ya?

back in the day, when it was big ass white boys doing this and NOT immigrants
white boys were expected to tote 160 lbs up the ladder
that's what I had to do when I was a roofing apprentice
and when I was in business for myself
otherwise I had to make an extra trip

if I wanted to, I could do this job today, proably even get an assistant to do most of the work, like I once was, and probably make $200,000 yr in my area and still do other stuff
but I got better things to do...




you wanna FIGHT with me boy?
I wouldn’t recommend it...

I am now WAY too old to be doing any fighting or brawling of ANY kind, voluntarily or involuntarily...

the last time I was in a real non-internet fight was in Moscow 2 years ago...
I was crewing in a race boat on the Moscva river, and we beat these other pridorki
and they got pissed about it when we got back to the marina, and started to pick-on the guy who captained our boat...

a shoving match started, another big guy “squares up” against my future son-in-law
if ANYTHING happened to young Pyotr, his father would be DEEPLY pissed at me!
OMG!  I HAD to ACT FAST!!!

so, I just ran up to the guy, from out of nowhere and sucker punched him in the jaw as hard as I could while still running....
he hit the ground like a giant sack of kartoshkie

BTW, go on ebay and shop for “Men’s Tungsten Rings”
I got them in multiple sizes so I can put them up and down my fingers
Tungsten is extremely dense, yet as hard as steel
I have a total of 8.7 oz of tungsten rings on my right hand...

brass nucs, brass knuckles are illegal in Russia just like in America
but Tungsten jewelry ain’t illegal

if I hit you jaw with this in one of two different places, 100%, I will break your jaw
and you will feel INTENSE PAIN and lose all further interest in fighting me

plus, I never have to worry about where they are...






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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #92 on: August 12, 2020, 03:23:34 PM »
Yet another krimster FAIL.

Two asphalt composition shingle (that's the full name of it) bundles like in the photo don't weigh 160 lbs, they're about half that weight.

And krimster says he didn't have the money for a roofing supply company to load the roof?

It's included in the price.
 
And the hammer isn't that heavy after 4 or 5 hrs? True if your mouth is bigger than your biceps.

Krim could make 200K? First he would need a reputation as an honest and experienced Roofing Contractor, for many years.

After that just more drug-induced fantasy.

Some of us have done such work in the real World because we have relatives who are contractors.

Then there's fantasy geezer.
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2020, 04:20:35 PM »
you CAN do it that way, if you have the $$$, but if you don't, you can do it the old way, of balancing 2 sacks of shingles on your shoulders
and literally RUN up the ladder...

gee, how could I POSSIBLY know this...

you don't think the hammer is heavy?
spend 4-5 hours with it EVERY DAY and tell me what you think...

once more, you have NO IDEA what you're talking about, do ya?

back in the day, when it was big ass white boys doing this and NOT immigrants
white boys were expected to tote 160 lbs up the ladder
that's what I had to do when I was a roofing apprentice
and when I was in business for myself
otherwise I had to make an extra trip

if I wanted to, I could do this job today, proably even get an assistant to do most of the work, like I once was, and probably make $200,000 yr in my area and still do other stuff
but I got better things to do...

I've hauled everything known to man up a ladder because that's
how we did it in the olden days. Now days the roofing company
offers to load it on your roof with either a conveyor or a boom truck,
IF you are not in the sticks. If you are roofing in the boonies then it
goes on the roof the ole timey way, up a ladder.

I've also seen guys load pallets on a loader or a bobcat with forks. 

A hammer definitely gets heavy while you are getting used to it. 
Being the tall guy guess who got to nail sheet rock nails into the
ceiling all day long? I am pretty ambidextrous and can nail about
75% as good left handed to give my right arm a break but again
time is money in construction.   

A modern nail/staple gun and dragging an air hose around is even
heavier so there is plenty of hard work still to be had if somebody
wants to remove and replace a roof or put up sheer wall etc.
 
My favorite part of construction was pride in your work and a sense
of accomplishment since you can see a house go up around you. 

Yes, you run up the ladder if you're a new guy or the experienced
guys give you grief (then you will get fired). A newbie is only allowed
to be slightly slower than a journeymen lugging stuff around and you
certainly better not be the cause for them to slow down.

The experienced guys get paid by the job or the square and time is
literally money. I progressed into sales in my late twenties and rarely
do any actual work anymore.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #94 on: August 12, 2020, 04:53:10 PM »
Did you ever get to meet Gary Payton or his son?

He came after my time. I saw him around a few times but we never
really met.

I played against AC Green, Charley Sitton, Jose Ortiz and Tyrone Miller
in the summer and in pick up games. I tried to block a shot by Tyrone
Miller once and he dunked the ball AND my hand. I usually fared much
better than that.

Nike is out of Oregon Bill Bowerman the inventor of the first shoe made
by them lived about 20 miles from where I went to highschool and of
course all the OSU players had Nike stuff. Charley gave me a pair of
shoes with an Orange swoosh on it.

Tyrone was always trying to get me a pair but he had size 17 feet
and my foot is only a 13 (back then) so he would have to work a
trade for a sweatshirt or something and it never worked out.

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #95 on: August 12, 2020, 04:55:40 PM »
FAIL?
ME?
listen, I’m gonna hand ya a tube of pain killin ointment for the burn I’m about to give ya, ok?
your OWN WORDS prove you don’t know WTF you are talking about!!!

a shingle bundle is 80 lbs, always HAS been, always WILL be
and ya know what, someone who ACTUALLY put 2 bundles of shingles on their shoulder
AND, I say AND, ran up a MFin ladder
would 100% know HOW MUCH weight they were carryin
if only for the bragging rights

http://www.iko.com/na/pro/building-professional-tools/roofing-101/how-to-stack-shingles-on-a-roof/

read confed and be enlightened

75 – 80 pounds
A shingle bundle typically weighs 75 – 80 pounds, so stacking many of them could put a lot of pressure on the roof,

you seriously have NO IDEA about ANYTHING
no clue
none

and is why you ain't got NO WOMEN
sittin next to you

otoh, if my kids are gone for the day somewhere and I go skinny dipping in the pool
and if I have even the SLIGHTEST hint of an erection coming out of the pool, the women will be on me faster than flies on fresh excrement
on top of that, they will be making lewd, suggestive comments to me in Russian, hoping to trigger that reaction

I'm a geezer confed, and for the simple reason that my wife is bisexual, I now enjoy a polyamorous relationship
I guess, it kinda make sense though
if one guy gets more than one woman, then it means there is some other guy who WON'T be able to get EVEN one woman, and he will be sad and alone, awwwwwww....
violins and harps playing a sad little tune over Confederate's unfulfilled desire of having a girlfriend some day
so sad...



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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2020, 05:48:44 PM »
I've hauled everything known to man up a ladder because that's
how we did it in the olden days. Now days the roofing company
offers to load it on your roof with either a conveyor or a boom truck,
IF you are not in the sticks. If you are roofing in the boonies then it
goes on the roof the ole timey way, up a ladder.

I've also seen guys load pallets on a loader or a bobcat with forks. 

A hammer definitely gets heavy while you are getting used to it. 
Being the tall guy guess who got to nail sheet rock nails into the
ceiling all day long? I am pretty ambidextrous and can nail about
75% as good left handed to give my right arm a break but again
time is money in construction.   

A modern nail/staple gun and dragging an air hose around is even
heavier so there is plenty of hard work still to be had if somebody
wants to remove and replace a roof or put up sheer wall etc.
 
My favorite part of construction was pride in your work and a sense
of accomplishment since you can see a house go up around you. 

Yes, you run up the ladder if you're a new guy or the experienced
guys give you grief (then you will get fired). A newbie is only allowed
to be slightly slower than a journeymen lugging stuff around and you
certainly better not be the cause for them to slow down.

The experienced guys get paid by the job or the square and time is
literally money. I progressed into sales in my late twenties and rarely
do any actual work anymore.

Well said Bill, you exaggerated only slightly however that has to do with who you worked with; it could very well be that the Journeymen you worked with at the time were that way.

Depending on the job and who bid the job there are multiple ways to get the material up on a roof including the old fashioned way. We never worked with unprofessional guys for certain reasons which won't be described in mixed company. It's mostly a young guys job but plenty of men do it for decades. Have any photos from those days? We have plenty but certainly wouldn't post here.
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #97 on: August 12, 2020, 05:52:12 PM »
He came after my time. I saw him around a few times but we never
really met.

I played against AC Green, Charley Sitton, Jose Ortiz and Tyrone Miller
in the summer and in pick up games. I tried to block a shot by Tyrone
Miller once and he dunked the ball AND my hand. I usually fared much
better than that.

Nike is out of Oregon Bill Bowerman the inventor of the first shoe made
by them lived about 20 miles from where I went to highschool and of
course all the OSU players had Nike stuff. Charley gave me a pair of
shoes with an Orange swoosh on it.

Tyrone was always trying to get me a pair but he had size 17 feet
and my foot is only a 13 (back then) so he would have to work a
trade for a sweatshirt or something and it never worked out.

Great story thx for sharing
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #98 on: August 12, 2020, 06:00:46 PM »
Thanks Davo it's good to finally have a better idea of what the tipping point may be :) I see now from what you put the sort of extra work I would have to do. I'm just kind of interested in upper body half, so chest and muscles mostly. Do you reckon if I did 3 sessions of upper body work (for an hour or so) with the free weights I could look like that guy, upper body wise in about 2-3 years?

My diet is not too bad, I improved it a bit though I regressed a bit recently but I think I know what to do now to make it a bit better. Kind of interesting to know that it takes so long and the commitment needed. Some guys I kind of had the impression that they work out a little then bingo it all pops up lol.

Not a chance. In 3 years of 6 days a week I didn’t quite get my biceps to the size of the guy in the picture.

Honestly and I know you’ve been told this before and you recently acknowledged ML’s comment about this...... Forget learning Russian, forget working out and I’d put a hold on finishing your house atm.... Your biggest issue is your lack of $$$. I returned home from Russia and realised my wage which is almost 2 and a half times more than yours wasn’t sufficient to search, get married to and support a FSU woman until she finds her feet in my country.

I’ve lived with a woman for 20 years who earned more than me and when she took 3/5th of our family income away with her, I actually started saving more money then when we were together.  Your future wife’s living expenses will probably be more than yours, trust me!!

It’s no good waiting to earn more money after you’ve have met a woman. You won’t have the time to support your new wife emotionally in a new country, if you have to work all the time.

What happens if you meet the perfect woman next trip and she wants to get married immediately and have a child soon after. How are you going to double or triple your income quickly?

Don’t take this as bragging....It’s taken me 12 months of 14-16 hour days to build up my side business to the point of making 80,000 £ on top of the 40,000 £ I earn working for another company. Last weekend in 14 hours of work made enough to pay for my airfare and accommodation for my next trip...... if you don’t have a good disposable income you’ll never achieve your goal of marrying a FSU woman. That’s the first and biggest issue you face.

To give you an idea of just how low your wage is, my 19 year old son is having a gap year before Uni and has started working at the same company as me. He’s an unskilled production worker and is earning almost twice as much as you do.
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Re: What Jacket to buy?
« Reply #99 on: August 12, 2020, 06:26:25 PM »
having multiple of your own gig type jobs is totally the way for guys in their 30s and 40s to work...
there are a lot of jobs that involve hard work and skill that will make you money "on the side"
when in college, I was a roofer, and a journeyman plumber and worked summers like this
college students like me once upon a time OWNED that job market, but now immigrants do
like so many other blue collar jobs that YOUNG WHITE PEOPLE don't wanna do anymore
because it's TOO hard
so they left it, and immigrants stepped in
whoever is willing to work the HARDEST
will make the most $$$ here
and whoever works the smartest on top of that can make some SERIOUS amount of money
and I DO MEAN SOME SERIOUS OMG AMOUNT!!


later all these trade skills came in handy when I accidentally got into real estate development in Crimea
for example, here's the sale document of a business office I sold in 2007, I did all the contracting on this project myself
and made a ton of money buying, fixing up offices, and flipping them, and buying the next one

I was able to dodge taxes AND get my profits out of the country
this is what I mean by being smart
not only being able to do this business in the first place, and not only deal with all the SHARKS, that smell money, but to keep ALL THE MONEY in the end as well...
sweet!

and guess who did ALL the contracting on the dirt cheap apartments I bought RIGHT ON THE BEACH that came with just bare concrete walls and turned them into apartments that looked like this
and could flip one a month for 300 % markup each time!

seriously, in Russia or Ukraine, you look for "distressed property" in a good location. that looks good externally
like an apartment project that was incomplete and shut down due to lack of money or even fraud!!

once you get a lawyer to check the ownership status
you go to the owner of an incomplete apartment complex, near the black sea, for example...
and you offer to buy the entire building from him
with 2 apartments per floor....

you will pay about $45,000 per apartment, a small building might have 8 to 16 apartments, depending on number of floors
these apartments will be just one big giant concrete shell, which at first looks kinda kewl, because of how big it is...
but unfortunately, ya gotta add walls, even a new innovation, closets, and then do the plumbing, electrical, heating system, floors, etc

sadly the apartments I bought didn't have high enough ceilings for me to loose the 4 inches parquet would take off the floor
so I had to go with wooden panels for the floor

so I could buy an individual apartment for $45k and spend about 25k in material and labor, and then flip this apartment
while starting work on the next one

I could do 4 such apartments per year, and still have plenty of time to take my kids boating in the summer
while pulling down a couple of hundred K per month, in a place like Crimea

while also working on several software projects...

if you wanna find ways to make money, are TOTALLY willing to work hard, take risks, etc
you CAN make money, I have!!!

I used to, I say used to, because I recently got out of this business
fly to Colorado and pick up a large quantity of edible Cannabis products
then fly to the Domodedovo airport at some ungodly hour
and literally sell the whole order and have others unload and transfer the cargo while I sit in the plane
and get paid $200,000 that I had to share with more than a few people, but still got to keep the biggest piece..
and my buyers would be begging me to know when they could buy again....
that's how easy it is to make money some serious money in Russia!

I can buy white Russian sim cards in China, for sim hacking for $50
and sell these all day long in Russia for $500....
I bet a I could sell 100 per month on my own easily just starting out
while also selling anything else I want on the darkweb
and get a stoopid amount of bitcoin in return

a group of Russians are making a ton of money in Florida
growing a hybrid plant from a wild native plant in the Erythroxylaceae family
the plant which is the source of cocaine, mainly grows only in Latin America...
a Russian horticultural expert, has introduced genes from Erythroxylum novogranatense
into another variety of Erythroxylum, that grows naturally in Florida,
and normally has a low but detectable amount of cocaine in  the native species

the new hybrid has an alkaloid content even HIGHER than the coca plants in South America
and are completely identical in external appearance to the local native plants they were derived from, no body freakin knows you have a coke farm

this year, they will ship over ten million USD in raw coca to Russia
next year 10 times that


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