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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2019, 04:03:35 AM »
Hardly the creator - more like he 'inherited' said universe - for a price ...  :popcorn:

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« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2019, 10:57:22 AM »
Hardly the creator - more like he 'inherited' said universe - for a price ...  :popcorn:
Might very well be the case - I don't really remember all the details of the parallel universe creation and colonization by living organisms...
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« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2019, 01:16:25 PM »
Italy was much better.

I can say without hesitation that Italy has plenty of very attractive, very stylish
women and GREAT food (except breakfast). I've only visited three times for
business, if only the girls were taller.......... 

I've taken you and Jay off ignore
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Re: Parallel universe
« Reply #78 on: April 15, 2019, 01:36:39 PM »
Might very well be the case - I don't really remember all the details

Always glad to help you, with any inaccuracies, Olya ! ;)

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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #79 on: April 15, 2019, 02:16:23 PM »
o-lah

when you’re playing your piccolo
do you consider the impact of your performance on the audience?

because the performance you presented here will turn off the very man you’re searching for
maybe you’re not aware
but it’s a big reason why you’re single....

as I’ve told the bearded one
don’t conflate external problems with internal ones

the REAL problem I see you having trying to find Mr Horrosho
is your own rigid thinking

rigid thinking is irrational
and to succeed on the journey you want to take
you want to be “agreeable to reason”
otherwise you will be “disagreeable”
and this is your main problem
men don’t marry or even date (for very long) disagreeable women

zaboot home or 3rd country, not important to success, just a detail
if you are perceived as a disagreeable woman
you will die alone in Moscow as I told you
maybe you should think about it
and get a cat instead (sorry forgot you’re a mouse, a krolich!!)

in addition, the odds as you well know are HEAVILY stacked against you because of your age and demographics
for example, in California, just 1% of the marriage licenses are to women over age 40
unfortunately for you, a woman’s peak beauty and attractiveness has a short lived shelf life and you chose to ignore the expiration date
I must know 100 women like this, even dated some (once or twice)
they're ALL single just like you...





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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #80 on: April 15, 2019, 04:34:27 PM »
There is a RW who posts here very, very rarely, who proves your assertion inaccurate, krimster.  She was far more abrasive than Olga, met her foreign husband on a forum geared toward WM, and was in her mid forties when they married.


There is also yet another former poster here, Rina, who met her husband through this forum, and she was also in her mid forties.


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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #81 on: April 15, 2019, 04:42:51 PM »
anecdotes....vrs...statistics......

so if some lucky person won a 100 million dollar lottery then poor people should all go and play the lottery because of this example of success????
glad I chose math and engineering over law!!!!

couldn't really quantify which negative attribute carries more weight, age, abrasiveness or the impact of her rigid behavior and thinking
first two problems COULD be managed with some effort on her part - but if she ever expects to have a log term relationship then she HAS to change her rigid behavior and thinking




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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #82 on: April 15, 2019, 04:58:27 PM »
It doesn't matter.  You are telling someone to change what you assume is her personality, because: (a) you assume she has a personality that won't attract a man; and (b) if she doesn't change, she is doomed to die alone. 

Statistically, I am not certain you are correct, because lots of women enter into second, or third marriages in their forties.  We have two women on this forum who married late in life - yes, they may be anecdotal, but real women are behind those anecdotal examples.

You can't know Olga's future, and I believe changing who you are to attract someone who otherwise would be incompatible is bad advice, in any event.

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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #83 on: April 15, 2019, 05:06:11 PM »
Krimster,

I agree with Boethius's comments about 40-yo RW.  My wife at age 44 had a marriage offer from a prominent Russian man younger than me, and quite possibly with more jingle in his pocket.   

He made the mistake of proposing to her at a large social gathering in their city, thinking this would persuade her.  She refused.  In a few days, she sent me a message that she wanted to talk again.   Something about a serious marriage proposal that will focus one's thoughts.  And she preferred Russia over America.

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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #84 on: April 15, 2019, 05:19:02 PM »
Also, I do not find Olga's attitude as disagreeable.  If you want an example of disagreeable, come by our home when the Cossack Woman feels wronged.   :exploding:

Olga IMO is merely  forthright and possesses the intellect, spirit, energy and cynicism to pose a good challenge.  I find it  refreshing.   Yes, she seems to subscribe to some positions that IMO are questionable, yet are not deal killers if she meets a man with whom she is willing to find some middle ground.   However, I don't know her and neither do you.  Its presumptuous  to judge her based on a few posts

IMO, the opposite of Olga is boring and compliant.    Maybe many men prefer such, but not me, nor you I presume.   

YMMV

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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #85 on: April 15, 2019, 05:27:18 PM »
"Statistically, I am not certain you are correct...."

ahhh well see, that is the advantage of using google

from some random link

"By the time a woman is 30, there is about one chance in two she will ever get married and at 40, only one chance in five. By the time she is 50, the chances she will marry are just one in 16, and after 60, her chances drop to one in 62."

can't get much clearer than that and this relates to local marriages not seeking a foreign partner which likely will have even less chance
I saw a long time ago a statistic from California that was even worse than the above...




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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #86 on: April 15, 2019, 05:40:49 PM »

"By the time a woman is 30, there is about one chance in two she will ever get married and at 40, only one chance in five. By the time she is 50, the chances she will marry are just one in 16, and after 60, her chances drop to one in 62."


Your stats could easily be true because marriage rates are declining.   The reasons are many, among which is the fact that more and more women are independent,  and also more comfortable with their own space. Maybe many simply feel no need to marry. 
 

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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #87 on: April 15, 2019, 06:00:25 PM »
“The odds as you well know are HEAVILY stacked against you because of your age and demographics”

I dated a very attractive 28 year old (Half American / Aussie) when I was first divorced. I was 39. We got on great, but once her divorce was finalised she moved Interstate to be closer to her family in Newcastle, which she let me know from the beginning.

The woman I visited recently is 43 (same age as me) and I have to admit she’s a far better fit..... there’s not one thing that the younger women exceeds her in.

I watched my grandmother live a lonely life when my grandfather passed away over 27 years ago. He was 12 years older than her. I wouldn’t want to put anyone I love in that position.
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« Reply #88 on: April 15, 2019, 06:01:13 PM »
"If you want an example of disagreeable, come by our home when the Cossack Woman feels wronged"

I feel your pain....

granted I don’t KNOW Olya
but I have read some of her ideas
her ideas show me a person who is very rigid and inflexible
her inflexibility places a burden on the other person as opposed to a person who is more tolerant and flexible
men pick up on this RIGHT AWAY!!!!
probably biggest reason women "get dumped" after a couple of dates

ALL the women I personally know with this characteristic behavior either never married, or if they did got divorced.... 100%!!!!!

I dated MANY women like this in the USA
I always found that the rigid behavior goes together with a “controlling” personality
I’d rather be like Jay and "pet my dingo" (though not as much as HE DOES!) and pretend I had a real girlfriend than be in a relationship with someone like that
BTW, my wife can go full cossack as well
when she does our kids call her “Mother Russia”  a quick storm and it passes

there are lots of datasets to show percentage of women married at a specific age
none of them look good for Olya
don't know if there's data that takes this and correlates based on "reason"
I doubt it, because frankly I think feminists would object to the "Too Ugly" category...

"I believe changing who you are to attract someone who otherwise would be incompatible is bad advice, in any event."

it's what I did
didn't change WHO I WAS
changed my IDEAS, when I realized the ones I had weren't working very well
and was willing to try radically new ideas
which were INCREDIBLY successful
after I hit the reset button, I didn't have ANY specific CONCEPT regarding who I wanted to marry or what conditions or where or what their attitude towards feminist ideology would be
kept everything maximum flexible
this made it easier for me to adapt to a greater pool of potential candidates

sitting there in my office in Silicon Valley
never in my wildest imagination (and mine is REALLY WILD)
could I have imagined I would have married a simple village girl from Ukraine
and if you could've seen the "coed eye candy" I passed over for my wife
most guys (including myself) would've thought I was crazy
but I was never MORE sure of someone than I was of my wife, still am almost 20 years later

my wife and I are the opposites on just about EVERYTHING
because of that we complement each other
she is my ying and I am her yang
we are stronger together than we are separately
we both find a way to fit in with the wishes and needs of each other
as opposed to trying to get our own way or control the other person’s behavior
after a certain number of years of marriage you do this automatically...
I don't see this kind of attitude from Olya
I see this as a HUGE obstacle for her, even if the rest of you don't

Postscript

a tangent to the “flexibility issue”

in silicon valley, I exclusively dated engineers, lawyers, high level professionals
because this was the “class” I was from...
I found it hard to have a Ying/Yang relationship with them
because we were both “Ying”
because of my preconceived bias against “uneducated” people
I never really considered dating within this “class”
it was, I later realized a HUGE mistake

there is a physical reason why 2 magnets of the same “polarity” repel
and the opposite polarity attract
nature always supplies us with abundant metaphors to aid our understanding


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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2019, 02:32:00 AM »
"If you want an example of disagreeable, come by our home when the Cossack Woman feels wronged"

I feel your pain....

granted I don’t KNOW Olya
but I have read some of her ideas
her ideas show me a person who is very rigid and inflexible
her inflexibility places a burden on the other person as opposed to a person who is more tolerant and flexible
men pick up on this RIGHT AWAY!!!!
probably biggest reason women get dumped after a couple of dates

ALL the women I personally know with this characteristic behavior either never married, or if they did got divorced.... 100%!!!!!

I dated MANY women like this in the USA
I always found that the rigid behavior goes together with a “controlling” personality
I’d rather be like Jay and pet my dingo and pretend I had a real girlfriend than be in a relationship with someone like that
BTW, my wife can go full cossack as well
when she does our kids call her “Mother Russia”  a quick storm and it passes

there are lots of datasets to show percentage of women married at a specific age
none of them look good for Olya
don't know if there's data that takes this and correlates based on "reason"
I doubt it, because frankly I think feminists would object to the "Too Ugly" category...

"I believe changing who you are to attract someone who otherwise would be incompatible is bad advice, in any event."

it's what I did
didn't change WHO I WAS
changed my IDEAS, when I realized the ones I had weren't working very well
and was willing to try radically new ideas
which were INCREDIBLY successful
I didn't have ANY specific CONCEPT regarding who I wanted to marry or what conditions or where or what their attitude towards feminist idealogy would be
kept everything maximum flexible
this made it easier for me to adapt to a greater pool of potential candidates

sitting there in my office in Silicon Valley
never in my wildest imagination (and mine is REALLY WILD)
could I have imagined I would have married a simple village girl from Ukraine
and if you could've seen the "eye candy" I passed over for my wife
most guys would've thought I was crazy
but I was never MORE sure of someone than I was of my wife, still am almost 20 years laterNow about what Krim said, of opposite characters or look like not properly fitted.

my wife and I are the opposites on just about EVERYTHING
because of that we complement each other
she is my ying and I am her yang
we are stronger together than we are separately
we both find a way to fit in with the wishes or needs of each other
as opposed to trying to get our own way or control the other person’s behavior
after a certain number of years of marriage you do this automatically...
I don't see this kind of attitude from Olya
I see this as a HUGE obstacle for her, even if the rest of you don't
+1
Flexibility in life is a strong asset to success and survive. Too much rigid behavior, this is something that i am getting faster and faster now in my dating and i move up quickly. Don't even want to go to a bed, that's not worthy.So statistics are against. And weight is against her.

I have a close female friend of 54, she tells me all about her life. I would never date her. NEVER, even five minutes. Possessive, totally rigid in her thinking, always surfing on the same mental drama, guess what i know her only one relationship in 15 monts, and the guy bailed out after one month. Guess what she meets a shrink. Good luck to this one.
The thing is that nobody knows exactly how and why the emotional bonding is working between two people.
Already, as a single particular unit of the world, it's difficult to figure out what you need to be sentimentally feeded considering the specificity and the oddity of your personnality and history.
Everybody could say i need some caring, tenderness and sex every day, but that's not specific and it explains nothing.
As women get older the championship is getting better for men, that's purely statistics if you are not financially, mentally and physically broken.

I met a terp of 44 in Ukraine 20 months ago. I think that she had be married twice. We hold hands nothing more, she liked me. I spent a lot of time with her. She repeatedly asked for a marriage, she was very serious about this, and that was a joke for me considering that i was struggling to divorce asap and after waiting documents. Of course i have the same wish to remarry as to hung myself in the basement.I know that she wanted to move out of Ukraine with her daughter. You would not say she is ugly or fat, at least she is a 8 in her class age, if you are picky you would say she is a 7+.  Guess what she has displayed a profile on fdating two months ago... Each day the clock is ticking and moving in the opposite direction of her.

There is an other parameter that women don't get with age, the men they met are naturally more aged than they were used to. They start to set up their own scale in the dating process at 15 and probably mature it when they are 30/35. But the men of 45/50 and more are not the same. Their gravity center have shifted from the throuser in direction of the head. Women believe that they will have the same behavior but no and they work with the same scale system, but they are missing the shot.
Example : i have a mistress, she is married, don't work or work occasionnaly, her daughter is kept by her parents (in Ukraine yes). She is semi depressive. She likes me. And guess what she would like me to be faithful, having feelings.Explain me why i should have feelings ??? She is not free and IMHO not a catch for a long term relationship (need to supported and i am not United Parcel Service). So her status is fuckfriend. It could change the day she is separated (at least) and having a job. And more important : having a life.
I remember also a story long time ago, a very very beautiful woman of 50. We were friends and she told me all about her life. She didn't work (don't even knew how she was making a living ???). She was with a successful men. SHE told me that she encouraged him to put on her name part of his assets. He didn't. She discovered later after two years that he had an other woman. She believed that she was leading the dance, she was wrong. And later her life became a train wreck for some time with an other man.

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« Reply #90 on: April 16, 2019, 03:30:12 AM »
OUI!!!
and you were very smart to run!!!!!


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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #91 on: April 16, 2019, 04:29:01 AM »

She repeatedly asked for a marriage, she was very serious about this, and that was a joke for me considering that i was struggling to divorce asap and after waiting documents. 

You were wise to be cautious of a woman who proposes marriage.  I made the mistake of accepting.  The marriage ended in one year.  Fantastic travel companion, however, with two good kids.     
 

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But the men of 45/50 and more are not the same. Their gravity center have shifted from the throuser in direction of the head.

 :D :D :D

And at 70+, the center of gravity shifts again, down to the equator, and the ass starts to melt away. 

Oh.....you were not talking about body mass.   



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I remember also a story long time ago, a very very beautiful woman of 50. We were friends and she told me all about her life. She didn't work (don't even knew how she was making a living ???). She was with a successful men. SHE told me that she encouraged him to put on her name part of his assets. He didn't. She discovered later after two years that he had an other woman. She believed that she was leading the dance, she was wrong. And later her life became a train wreck for some time with an other man.

Some attractive women have a history of getting passed from man to man. 

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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #92 on: April 16, 2019, 10:12:52 AM »

I remember also a story long time ago, a very very beautiful woman of 50. We were friends and she told me all about her life. She didn't work (don't even knew how she was making a living ???). She was with a successful men. SHE told me that she encouraged him to put on her name part of his assets. He didn't. She discovered later after two years that he had an other woman. She believed that she was leading the dance, she was wrong. And later her life became a train wreck for some time with an other man.

Similar thing happened with a friend of mine who lives in LA area.

He got hooked up with a woman who was a  9+ bit-part actress still trying to make it in her late 30s or so.
She was a real estate saleslady to support herself and teenage daughter.

After 6 months or so together, she told him of a potential really good buy on a small apartment complex.  She proposed to him that they jointly put in some money and sign loan documents . . . but that the title be in her name only !!!

He told me about this . . . and we both had a really big laugh.

He decided to just string her along for the sex and to escort a trophy gal around town.

But a few weeks later they broke up when he cancelled a date to spend time with her daughter . . . when he found out an important sporting event (don't remember what) was going to be on TV.
A beautiful woman is pleasant to look at, but it is easier to live with a pleasant acting one.

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Re: First meeting- Woman coming to your country or a neutral country.
« Reply #93 on: April 16, 2019, 02:04:49 PM »
"By the time a woman is 30, there is about one chance in two she will ever get married and at 40, only one chance in five. By the time she is 50, the chances she will marry are just one in 16, and after 60, her chances drop to one in 62."

can't get much clearer than that and this relates to local marriages not seeking a foreign partner which likely will have even less chance
I saw a long time ago a statistic from California that was even worse than the above...

I need to run to my wife Angel Eyes and remind her
how statistically lucky she is to have me  :D


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Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2019, 03:05:05 PM »
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granted I don’t KNOW Olya
but I have read some of her ideas
her ideas show me a person who is very rigid and inflexible

from some random link

"By the time a woman is 30, there is about one chance in two she will
ever get married and at 40, only one chance in five. By the time she is
50, the chances she will marry are just one in 16, and after 60, her
chances drop to one in 62."

Krim,

I don't know Miss Mouse substantially more than you do. I've only
read more of her posts than you have (here and elsewhere). I do
NOT know her personally. I've seen a photo of her a while back
and she falls into the pretty/petite category.

Assuming that she's not a psychopath, serial killer, or something like that,
this is a numbers game. There are guys out there somewhere in this big
blue and beautiful world who would be a good match for her.

She doesn't have to catch every man, just the right man.

It appears that she is taking her search for a man proactively and
making contacts on her own. If she continues doing that it's only a
matter of time until she meets a good candidate, then it's lather,
rinse and repeat until she finds the man for her. 

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

 

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