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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2850 on: January 27, 2023, 01:15:56 PM »
what would Karl Marx have to say about this?
is Russia actually fighting a "class war"
with Rich Oligarchs in Russia vrs Poor Russians and Ukrainians
do poor Russians have more in common with poor Ukrainians
than with Rich Russian oligarchs?
that this is a war to sustain Russia's oligarchy
which was supposed to be an easy meal
but instead became an epic struggle
where the intended prey
has the predator by the throat instead

Seems like most FSU countries have ended up like one big social housing/council estate. We have social/council housing here in the UK and you have something similar in the US I believe. I'm not saying all social/council housing types are bad'uns some are decent nice people but there tends to be a culture there of trouble, people preying on people, each other, of being seen to be street wise, of seeing whether you can get one over on your fellow man (or woman) no matter how petty it is, and of stress and commotion often over trivialities and silly stuff.

The upper classes were knocked off in the FSU or deported/fled. This has its upsides but also means a lot of council estate culture (as above) tends to then hold sway and dominate too much. The building of mass social housing in the USSR kind of elevated it on a large scale. Here in the UK we had a smaller affair with council/social housing building, but the effects can often be seen with all too many of the residents/tenants. Unfortunately poor attitudes and hence behaviours (as above) with sometimes idle hands turning no good and a lit of whining and complaining about their lot with no wish to work to improve it, an expectation that others should serve their needs. Again not saying all are like that but it tends to be part of the culture of many. Think we are gradually trying to get away from all that here in the UK as it's no good for them or society.

So pretty sure it's not what Karl Marx had envisaged and from what I can see is how a lot of the FSU is. Last week was watching a program on Netflix on the great Putler. Looks like he pretty much just fell into the job by chance, little more than a lowly ex-KGB clerk of no great merit or agent skill. Happened just to be in the right place at the right time and inadvertently likely to his own surprise just suddenly plucked out of obscurity and plopped into the President's job probably bewildered how he came to be there himself. Looks like Yeltsin was just happy for anyone who fitted his views more than poor old Nemtsov who met a tragic end eventually as a result. Had Nemtsov kept his mouth shut over the Chechen war and wait for the old man Yeltsin's time to pass that anyone could see wasn't far off then his and Russia's future may have been a lot more rosier.

The whole Putin saga kind of reminds me of, 'Animal Farm' all over again where some lowly random animal just inadvertently finds himself just by chance to be running the farm and ends up inflicting misery on those below him. Basically a lot of bad luck in the chance happening of Putin ending up in the job and bringing back the bad old ways of how life used to be out there. Possibly otherwise it might have potentially all moved on for the better.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2851 on: January 27, 2023, 05:59:52 PM »
Read Britains history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre
whenever the ruling class has ABSOLUTE power
you have these kinds of consequences
regardless of the economic system

WWI and WWII broke the backs of the British aristocracy/oligarchy
allowing a middle class to emerge

this war might break Russias oligarchy
and their assets recaptured and returned to the people

but my point is, if you were ALL AWAKE, yall wouldnt end up as slaves in the first place
massa, he relies on the slaves not bein WOKE
he likes 'em poor and ignorant...




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2852 on: January 28, 2023, 06:17:35 PM »
The McGonigal indictment question goes even beyond the issues of his leaking of the "pending" investigation of Hillary's emails before she was later exonerated by the FBI
(but exonerated  only AFTER she lost the election)

Remember Mike Flynn, saying "Lock her UP!
while ALSO getting paid at the same time by the VERY SAME Russians
Pardon ME?


In 2016, Trump's campaign manager (Manafort) was a former employee of a Russian oligarch (Deripaska), and owed money to that same Russian oligarch.  And the FBI special agent (McGonigal) who was charged with investigating the Trump campaign's Russian connections was secretly working (according to the indictment) for that very same Russian oligarch (Deripaska).
WTF?

so the Mueller report, which did document a LOT of unsusual suspicious activity between Trump/Russia
chose to NOT investigate "economic crimes" (Trump's favorite and most prolific type)
for some unspecified reason, when Russian money was at the CENTER of it all

and the Mueller investigation didn't have a CLUE, that the FBI Agent in charge of the "Russian Election Interference" investigation
was actually working for the VERY same Russians WHILE he was investigating them!

if you're a Republican
none of this FAKE RUSSIAN HOAX NEWS is important as the danger posed by "wokeness"

just what is the danger posed by being "woke" to Republicans?

that it might lead to a path, where mainstream white America will extend the hand of tolerance and compassion to EVERY disenfranchised voting group, based on race, religion, sexual orientation
and form a politcal block in direct opposition to Republican's White evangelical cultural warfare block, directed by the rich elites who own and control the Republican party
OTOH, the elite's religion and culture is ACTUALLY money and power and has nothing to do with these other topics
any more than Ukraine is a Nazi country bent on destroying Russia the great savior of Christain cultural values and so a "holy war" ensues
LOL!  AS IF...

and THIS is why the oligarchy attacks WOKENESS, through the media like Fox News and others that they BOUGHT AND PAID FOR
because wokeness is a threat to their power and money they derive from that

why do you think they work so hard TO DIVIDE US?
you think THEY care about any of your petty prejudices, one way or the other?
or do they care about how to keep extracting "RENT" from the economy
that ultimately is derived the labor of the poor and middle class
so tell me, what share of the economy is delegated to the poor and middle class
who do all the WORK, compared to the ruling elites, who do NONE

so, as a result,
ya'll end up just workin against yourselves instead of FOR
just like the thousands of dirt poor southerners in the civil war who gave their lives to maintain the RICH slave owner's economic position, which WAS ALWAYS in DIRECT opposition to their own...

WHY?
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YA'LL
why all the STOOPID?

can "one of you" explain it?
cuz I sure as hell can not...


PS
this town's a ghost town,
and couldn't be more dead than it currently is...

I recommend ya'll go to either VK or Telegram and freakin TROLL Russians as HARD AS YOU CAN
great FUN!!



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2853 on: January 29, 2023, 12:43:32 PM »
"Leopard2's are 1979 tech..."

Every point you make is correct. HOWEVER, when the German/Austrian/Dutch generals
give their sh!t  away, they will give their oldest sh!t away first. FIFO is what the
accountants call it. You

Also the Leopard 2 is competing against the old Russian tech T72's and T80's.
That's the Radio Shack TRS80 competing against the Honeywell 316 which ran
at the lightning speed of 2.5 MHz and could store up to 4096 words of memory.



The Leopard 2 should scare soldiers driving T72's (if they have brains). The T72's
can back up about as fast an old lady crossing the street with a walker on a snowy
day after getting drunk. I have never been in the military but ask a tank driver
how important it is to be able to back up. 

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2854 on: January 29, 2023, 05:54:11 PM »
besides the lead FBI investigator of the Trump Russia Probe being PAID by the Same Russians he was investigating WHILE he was investigating them...
and who then leaked a fake inflammatory press release about Hillary's emails
before she was later cleared
(and all this is in the INDICTMENT, and not a libtard media show)

In order to "clear himself" Trump created a coverup plan
Trump also appointed Bill Barr who appointed John Durham who spent $6.5 million to uncover misconduct in the Trump-Russia probe using Russian Intel, but the only crimes Durham uncovered were crimes committed by Trump HIMSELF. And then they hid it? Did I get that right?

but all this is FINE, as long as it works AGAINT the woke libtards, right?
you know "libtards" people who "don't share your beliefs" about race, religion, sexuality, etc
and your puppet masters pull your strings to direct your RIGHTEOUS anger against people who are different from you
who just want the same things you take for granted

Liberty
Equality
Brotherhood

these things stand in the way of something ELSE
so massa he gonna get rid of it
and ya'll are massas slaves
and will do like you're told

never realizing you're digging your own grave



none of ya'll care about the RICH POWEFUL arseholes who sell YOU OUT, EVERY chance they get
and WHAT IT COSTS YOU

and are more worried about Mexican Transvestites hopping over the border to check out your junk in a restroom
cuz this pablum is being spoon fed to you little babies every day on Fox News and other media owned by the oligarchy

so in my view, ya'll deserve the coming judgment that's gonna be passed on you
just like it was with all them HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dirt poor rednecks
who died in the "War of Southern Plantation Owners" agin the industrialized North
and no, the blood sacrifice ya'll made to the Virus God to appease Trumpy Bear
is already gone
and MORE is needed

maybe all of you next time
a single tear flows down my cheek

meanwhile, I see Russia/Iran/China all converging in the future

spossiba Beel
for the retro-futuristic minicomputer...
I miss those days



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2855 on: January 30, 2023, 12:07:28 PM »
The Manchurian Candidate was apparently more than just a movie.

A Russian agent (Paul Manafort) in the employ of Putins oligarchs (Oleg Deripaska & Konstantin Kilimnik) was paid millions BY THE RUSSIANS (and NOT Trump)  to run Trumps campaign and was passing secret campaign information to Russian intelligence that they used to target specific groups of American voters via Facebook and Twitter, courtesey of Cambridge Analytica, to alter the outcome of the US presidential election to one MORE favorable to Russia

and when this treachery was referred to the FBI, the lead agent there was later, it turns out according to the latest INDICTMENT, WAS ALSO secretly working for Deripaska and Putin... and was responsible for using Hillary's Laptop emails right before the election to create a fake scandal, which would BE AMPLIFIED in the media by Trump's people, but of course, the invented scandal, had no real substance (anymore than Hunter Biden's laptop), and AFTER THE ELECTION, was completely cleared of any wrong doing, by the same FBI....  who could also NOT FIND any DIRECT COLLUSION between Trump & Russia.... cuz the REAL COLLUSION was DIRECTLY connected to THEM ALL ALONG!!!

You may remember Deripaska was also the oligarch who helped Mitch McConnell win the 2020 election by announcing he was going to build a $200 million many-new-jobs aluminum operation in Kentucky that was then cancelled RIGHT AFTER after McConnell won reelection. McConnell helped get sanctions lifted, apparently so Derapaska could help his campaign, earning him the Moscow Mitch nickname.)
meanwhile, SOMEBODY directed the Kentucky Teacher's Retirement fund, to sink 20 million USD into SBER bank, which got wiped out by sanctions



and none of ya'll are MAD about this?
of COURSE NOT!!!
none of you even phuquing care....
or are even capable of seeing the TRUTH that's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU

when people STOP CARING, this is how democracy and freedom die
and you all WILL DESERVE what's coming for you down the road...

me and my family are gonna be Los Latinos when that happens, and dumb phuques will curse the fact that they built a wall instead of a bridge

ya'll have a real nice day now, hasta lavista baby!




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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2856 on: January 31, 2023, 04:40:57 PM »
Ukraine still after joining the EU assuming it makes it out of this conflict:

http://www.ft.com/content/3275f83f-e765-4709-a5da-ec9b02fea237

Reconstruction cost is likely to be huge then of course the EU must be getting strapped for cash what with paying for the virus pandemic response plus the UK leaving the bloc.

I personally don't think that Ukraine has really thought through whether it it is really a good idea to join the EU. Instead of their sovereignty being seized by Russia they would be giving their sovereignty up to the EU. That I think is something they haven't realised yet, they are too focused on the perks and not giving up power over to Brussels.

For us there is the possibility that it could mess up Ukraine as a place for relationships. However the whole EU bloc could be much poorer in the future moreso if they are weighed down with the costs of doing up Ukraine and supporting a poor economy - another one they give money out to rather than receive money from.

Personally I'm still glad we are out of the EU, I think we have only benefitted since, means people can't legally just float into the country by themself.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2857 on: January 31, 2023, 08:03:59 PM »
черный куб
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2858 on: February 01, 2023, 09:09:41 AM »
Putin's standing in Russia,  has depended upon two premises: what happens on television is more important than what happens in reality
and what happens outside Russia should get all the focus, and not what happens inside Russia, (all illusionists understand how to distract attention/perception)

With mobilization, the distinction between inside/outside Russia has been broken;
with lost battles, the distinction between television and reality has been broken.  Reality is starting to matter a LOT more than television, and what's happening in Russia as a result of the war, will start to matter a LOT more than what's happening in Ukraine....

and this moy druzya means that Putin is starting to lose his grip over Russia.... and those who long to take over Putin's position, are already auditioning for the role....

primarily, the former hotdog salesman Yevgeny Prigozhin, an alumnus of the Russian prison system and of course Ramzan Kadyrov who is basking in the Chechen glory of murdering and raping (including Russians) civilians with the small number of Instagram fame seekers, while quietly exempting Chechen citizens from Russian mobilization (cuz they're HIS, to be used for his "future plans" and NOT Putin's)

it's no coincidence, that they each have built up a private army...
so at some point, the center of the WAR, will shift from Ukraine to Russia
after the FAILURE of the Ukrainian war

MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN


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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2859 on: February 01, 2023, 12:55:18 PM »
and this moy druzya means that Putin is starting to lose his grip over Russia.... and those who long to take over Putin's position, are already auditioning for the role....

primarily, the former hotdog salesman Yevgeny Prigozhin, an alumnus of the Russian prison system and of course Ramzan Kadyrov who is basking in the Chechen glory of murdering and raping (including Russians) civilians with the small number of Instagram fame seekers, while quietly exempting Chechen citizens from Russian mobilization (cuz they're HIS, to be used for his "future plans" and NOT Putin's)

it's no coincidence, that they each have built up a private army...
so at some point, the center of the WAR, will shift from Ukraine to Russia
after the FAILURE of the Ukrainian war

MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN

Ah surely the unthinkable, our beloved Putler moving on so soon! Think you could be right Krim depending on how the pieces fall, an easy interesting insight.

Possibly Sergei Shoigu or those quite high up in the Russian Army possibly in the mix as well maybe depending on what remains of the Russian Army after all of this. Aside from that possibly some regions of Russia attempting to break away.

Not sure on timing for this, depends on how ragged the Russian Army and economy becomes from all of this. Guessing could all happen after the pending Russian Spring offensive if all does not go well for them.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2860 on: February 01, 2023, 01:23:46 PM »
spossiba Beel
for the retro-futuristic minicomputer...
I miss those days

Pozhaluista, I don't miss the screens.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2861 on: February 02, 2023, 04:05:03 AM »
Putin's standing in Russia,  has depended upon two premises: what happens on television is more important than what happens in reality
and what happens outside Russia should get all the focus, and not what happens inside Russia, (all illusionists understand how to distract attention/perception)

With mobilization, the distinction between inside/outside Russia has been broken;
with lost battles, the distinction between television and reality has been broken.  Reality is starting to matter a LOT more than television, and what's happening in Russia as a result of the war, will start to matter a LOT more than what's happening in Ukraine....

and this moy druzya means that Putin is starting to lose his grip over Russia.... and those who long to take over Putin's position, are already auditioning for the role....

primarily, the former hotdog salesman Yevgeny Prigozhin, an alumnus of the Russian prison system and of course Ramzan Kadyrov who is basking in the Chechen glory of murdering and raping (including Russians) civilians with the small number of Instagram fame seekers, while quietly exempting Chechen citizens from Russian mobilization (cuz they're HIS, to be used for his "future plans" and NOT Putin's)

it's no coincidence, that they each have built up a private army...
so at some point, the center of the WAR, will shift from Ukraine to Russia
after the FAILURE of the Ukrainian war

MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN


It would be truly wonderful seeing Putler and what's left of his military ,former prison bitch Prigozhin with his terrorist Wagner PMC,and Kadyrov and his deviant Chechens massacring each other and destroying Russia in the process.


NATO and the west can sit back and enjoy the show. :popcorn:
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2862 on: February 02, 2023, 03:33:27 PM »
sometimes "cascading failures" become like avalanches
with nothing able to stop it
until it buries all in its path
and this will make the folks in the neighboring valleys quite nervous
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2863 on: February 04, 2023, 08:25:18 AM »
Apparently it looks like Russia is in the beginning stages of starting it's Spring Offensive already:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1729567/Ukraine-live-war-Russia-major-spring-offensive-active-phase-donbas-Kramatorsk/amp

It's reckoned that instead of somewhere towards 300,000 troops amassing for the offensive that there looks to be nearer 500,000 troops amassing for the offensive. Apart from Russian troops moving to the front in the Donbass we could be looking at another build up of troops along Ukraine's northern border just like last year but way bigger this time! Likely pushing in from all sides this time. My guess is that it may all start in motion again around the anniversary of last year's invasion if not before.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2864 on: February 05, 2023, 07:48:16 AM »
Apparently it looks like Russia is in the beginning stages of starting it's Spring Offensive already:

http://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1729567/Ukraine-live-war-Russia-major-spring-offensive-active-phase-donbas-Kramatorsk/amp

It's reckoned that instead of somewhere towards 300,000 troops amassing for the offensive that there looks to be nearer 500,000 troops amassing for the offensive. Apart from Russian troops moving to the front in the Donbass we could be looking at another build up of troops along Ukraine's northern border just like last year but way bigger this time! Likely pushing in from all sides this time. My guess is that it may all start in motion again around the anniversary of last year's invasion if not before.


Not one of the best sources out there...the Express does tend to exaggerate everything ,whether it's pro Russian or pro Ukrainian news.


But anyway it will be interesting to see how many of the Express claimed 300k to 500k will actually fight.


In todays news 600 mobilized Russian troops who refused to participate in hostilities were returned from the Luhansk region to the territory of Russia.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2865 on: February 05, 2023, 01:16:21 PM »
le Russ chef
goes to the worst of the worst prisons in Russia
and recruits the worst of the worst prisoners

if they survive 6 months on the front line...
they collect $10,000 CASH MONEY in St Pete's AND
keep WHATEVER THEY STEAL

AND can do to Ukrainian women and children (or men, if that's your thing) WHATEVER YOU WANT!!!
AND have their criminal history COMPLETELY EXPUNGED
AND automatically get a $2500/month job in his private army
who WOULDN'T take that deal!!!!

this is HOW he vettes his troops for the private army he surrounds himself with!
he gets ONLY THE BEST through the Darwinian Recruitment Agency

and all paid with Rubley printed by Putin JUST FOR HIM
and those presses run 24/7

there are now about half a dozen large private armies in Russia, some like Prigozhin's are aligned with a major mafiya family, like Prigozhin is with the Tambov's
and the Chechen mafiya in south eastern Moscva is with kadyrov

the memory of Stalingrad
Putin's upcoming vision of glory
Prigozhin chipping away
until Putin brings forth the sledgehammer
and brings it down

there will be just a short time between the end of the offensive
and the start of the early summer rains
which will make mechanized movement tempoarily impossible

but the distances Ukraine has to cross to sever Crimea
are short
if Ukraine doesn't suffer massive losses during Russia's offensive, but Russia DOES
then there is a short window of time it can take advantage of this

if Crimea is completely severed
after the failure of the offensive....
while the Russian economy continues to nosedive

will cast the darkest shade possible
over Putin's victorious glorious re-election parade
which is about 13 months from now

that date will be an inflection point....
what's that, up in the road ahead?
could it be The Twilight Zone, is that what Z really stands for?



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2866 on: February 06, 2023, 05:29:05 AM »

Not one of the best sources out there...the Express does tend to exaggerate everything ,whether it's pro Russian or pro Ukrainian news.


But anyway it will be interesting to see how many of the Express claimed 300k to 500k will actually fight.


In todays news 600 mobilized Russian troops who refused to participate in hostilities were returned from the Luhansk region to the territory of Russia.

Ok I admit I chose the most headline grabbing news story out there. It was either that or the unexciting Chinese weather balloon one ;D

Potentially though Ukraine could have quite a fight on its hands in the days and weeks to come, moreso than before. The troop numbers will be at least twice maybe three times the size of the initial invasion force. My guess is that those Ukrainians that have done a runner and gone abroad are not going to be thought kindly of by most of those back home so are probably keeping a low profile with many of them not letting it be known they have abandoned their country/countrymen to their fate whatever that may be. In fairness to Bee Farmer as he pointed out they are going to find it difficult to return if Ukraine gets through this if it becomes known they had fled and left the rest of them facing all the misery that comes with defending one's country.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2867 on: February 06, 2023, 11:57:18 AM »
More info on the Russian mobilization/conscription:

http://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3666304-ukrainian-intelligence-predicts-russian-offensive-efforts-in-donetsk-luhansk-zaporizhia-regions.html

As it states it seems logical that the Russians would defend in Kherson region where they hold a strong defensive position the other side of the river while avoiding attacking there as the river also makes it harder to cross for themselves as well. Attacking from Donetsk & Zaporizhia makes sense for Russia as the open terrain means easier advancement there. I would also expect an attack from the north from Belarus probably down towards Kyiv again, Kharkiv but also down towards Lviv. Possibly attacks out of Transnistria if only to secure the border area around there also. I think an attack down towards Lviv is probably almost definitely on the cards this time what with the larger troop numbers at Russia's disposal.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2868 on: February 06, 2023, 05:29:17 PM »
Another interesting article here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ukraine-russia-casualties.html

Makes a good point in that Russia with a much larger population can take greater loss of troop numbers than Ukraine, in theory.

Ukrainian troops have been training on Challenger 2 tanks in the UK this past week so along with Leopard 2 tanks we'll see how that goes down in the fighting. Looks like a real battle royale is brewing and things look likely to really kick off even bigger than last year in the next few weeks or so.
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2869 on: February 07, 2023, 05:06:10 AM »
Another interesting article here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/02/us/politics/ukraine-russia-casualties.html

Makes a good point in that Russia with a much larger population can take greater loss of troop numbers than Ukraine, in theory.

Ukrainian troops have been training on Challenger 2 tanks in the UK this past week so along with Leopard 2 tanks we'll see how that goes down in the fighting. Looks like a real battle royale is brewing and things look likely to really kick off even bigger than last year in the next few weeks or so.


The problem Russia has is that much of it's male population is in ill health and unfit to fight...hence why they had to increase their mobilization age to 60.


Secondary school children  ( 12 and up ) and students in Russia are now being forced to learn how to fight and learning how to use assault rifles.


The way things are going they'll be sending Russian women and children into Ukraine to fight soon.


Putler may well achieve his dream of a genocide in Ukraine..only it'll be his own people becoming extinct.


Current death toll of the orcs in Ukraine stands at 133,190..and reports coming out of the hospitals in the orc occupied areas of the Donbas region is that they're full of wounded,crippled and dying orcs.....happy days  >:D
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2870 on: February 07, 2023, 12:56:07 PM »
an american running dog spy satellite collects FPV video in ultra-high detail with computer enhanced imagery....
it sends the encrypted data to fort meade, maryland
there, an AI program counts trucks driving down a road, guns parked in a field, even individual soldiers, and tracks them between orbits....
and reduces it to a big XLS spreadsheet with Eng/Ukr translations
and does this every 90 min 24/7
and in addition...
a joint US/Ukr task force of the MOST SR military planners
provide an overview of their interpretation
and have been "gaming" this thing to death....

Ukraine has RESEREVES... people and ammo...
the ammo they recently captured from overrunning the Russians was ENORMOUS
and has already been redistributed, just THAT AMMO by itself will inflict huge losses
I would imagine that in the first two weeks of the offensive, Russia will lose maybe as many as 50,000 KIA (equivalent to vietnam war for USA)
Russia will not meausure victory or defeat by this number
but will only measure it in territory won or lost
and this is how the world will see the truth about Russia's true motives
next year, poor uneducated Russians will start asking the same questions the rich, educated ones did last year...
as ALL LEVELS of Russian society FEEL THE PAIN!!!

* and remember, dear gentle readers, that since 2014, when Putin occupied Crimea, the Russian GDP has declined by 10% and that by next year's election, could be 15%
a 15% decrease, instead of a 50% to 70& increase?  average oligarch's net worth has dropped 50%...

by the end of next year, all the cracks in Russia will start to get bigger and bigger and bigger
and things will break down, all kinds of things...

in Russia, even entropy isn't as good as it used to be...



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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2871 on: February 07, 2023, 03:52:11 PM »
Doesnt Russia have the same satellite imagery?
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2872 on: February 07, 2023, 04:25:34 PM »

The way things are going they'll be sending Russian women and children into Ukraine to fight soon.

Women prison inmates have already been recruited to soldier training sites.

http://english.nv.ua/nation/russians-recruiting-female-convicts-in-occupied-donbas-to-fight-against-ukraine-50302223.html

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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2873 on: February 07, 2023, 05:15:57 PM »
"Doesnt Russia have the same satellite imagery?"

no, neither does China....
the usa has no peer in this field, an ENORMOUS lead...
but Russia does have some version of this, just no where near as good as this...
gives Ukr a HUGE advantage, and they will optimize the damage
because sometimes...
you gotta be cruel, to be kind...

criminalize dissent
put dissenters in jail
recruit soldiers from jail
this solves both the dissenter and military recruitment problems
"win-win"
paid for with freshly printed rubles minus "managment fees"
you could't get it any cheaper than this
I mean "cost effective"

sure go ahead and hyperinflate in the long term
to survive in the short term
i'm sure it'll all work out fine
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Re: The Struggle For Ukraine
« Reply #2874 on: February 08, 2023, 07:30:20 AM »
Brilliant speech from President Zelensky in  London today.


He made a point of thanking Boris Johnson for galvanizing all the countries that are now helping Ukraine.


Mentioned how he sat in Winston Churchills chair on a previous visit to London and felt something.


He said he's looking forward to meeting with King Charles at Buckingham Palace,and said "King Charles was an Air Force   pilot and in our country our Air Force pilots are our kings "...invoking the Battle of Britain spirit.


The UK is now training Ukrainian pilots to fly western fighter jets and also our Royal Marines are now training Ukrainians.


Update : Looks like Zelensky's speech had the desired effect as Downing Street confirms PM Sunak has now asked Defence Minister Ben Wallace what fighter jets we can give to Ukraine.
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