Windows 10

[LAman]

I like 10 over 8 any day. I was having too many glitches with 8. Let's see how long this one lasts. 

Yes, I would also prefer a 10 .....but I would settle for an 8, it would still be worth it!!!!

[Noch1]

My last computer was 8, I disliked it so much, I gave it away and bought a
Macbook Pro. As it is today, I will never go back.
I am not a microsoft hater. Just not impressed with some of the changes.
Having a mac, for one means never having to buy anti virus software again

My work computer is windows 7. Something I don't like is the daily pop up to
update to windows 10, at this point, I have not found a way to make it stop.
I would change my work computer also to Mac, except simply accounting does not run well on Macs. I hope someday soon.

[HoundDaddyLee]

Having a mac, for one means never having to buy anti virus software again

You understand that there are Mac virus's. Also virus writers target Windows because they are 90%+ of the market. Once the Mac ecosystem expands you will need anti-virus. There are virus's targeting Android devices now as it has the majority of the mobile space.


Been using Windows since version 2 and (knock on wood) have never gotten a virus.


HDL

[HoundDaddyLee]

Yes, I would also prefer a 10 .....but I would settle for an 8, it would still be worth it!!!!

This made me laugh. Thanks for that. Much needed today.


HDL

[SANDRO43]

I just upgraded (free) from Win7. It took 2+ hours to download, check downlod and install, it lost a couple of things including my HP printer (but was able to resurrect it ).

Apart from its cluttered windows design - which I hope to modify to my previous Win7 look eventually - and misplaced items, it seems to work alright, although program activations take longer the first time through. 

[Muzh]

Yes, I would also prefer a 10 .....but I would settle for an 8, it would still be worth it!!!!

 


You got me.

[Anathema]

I was really reluctant to upgrade from Windows 7, as I liked it and it worked well (for me), but I decided to try out Windows 10.  I actually really like it.  The upgrade process is easy and you can keep all of your files, folders, etc. from 7 or 8 if you want.  I decided to do a clean install though.

There's definitely some weird little issues and a lot of design decisions that make me scratch my head but I like it overall and MS has, so far, been quick with the updates and actually implementing fixes/changes that people have been complaining about via the built in feedback.

The upcoming Skype integration will be something that members of this board will probably be very interested in too.

Having a mac, for one means never having to buy anti virus software again

That would be extremely foolish.  I know that's a huge myth that Apple people like to tout, for whatever reason (ignorance I suppose), but it's completely false.  There are many more viruses/exploits/etc. for Windows but that's only because Windows has a much higher market share.  If you want to infect as many people as possible with your malware, you wouldn't choose Mac.  It has nothing to do with the Mac OS being any more secure.

Here's just a few examples.  Neowin is a techy site that I like to visit but you can find the same info from various other sources.

http://www.neowin.net/news/very-simple-exploit-shown-to-completely-bypass-gatekeeper-security-software-in-os-x

http://www.neowin.net/news/kapersky-apple-is-10-years-behind-microsoft-in-security

http://www.neowin.net/news/serious-exploit-discovered-in-os-x-yosemite

http://www.neowin.net/news/hackers-steal-over-250000-apple-accounts-from-jailbroken-devices

[Faux Pas]

That would be extremely foolish.  I know that's a huge myth that Apple people like to tout, for whatever reason (ignorance I suppose), but it's completely false.  There are many more viruses/exploits/etc. for Windows but that's only because Windows has a much higher market share.  If you want to infect as many people as possible with your malware, you wouldn't choose Mac.  It has nothing to do with the Mac OS being any more secure.

Yes and No. It is foolish to think Mac users are immune. I can unequivocally say that isn't so. Also, Mac users are as susceptible to malware, spyware and any other tracking ware as PC users. Often it doesn't affect the Mac the same way as it does a PC but it makes both unstable and slow. Most of the malicious code and viruses are directed at PCs for you reasons you cite but once in a while one pops up that infects Macs and generally doesn't affect Macs as terminally as it does PC but, still creates problems. Slow acting Trojan Horses a few years ago were a problem but I haven't heard of one in a long time.

You PC guys will never admit it but comparing a Mac to PC is like comparing a Cadillac to a Ford Escort. Until you actually try and commit yourself to a Mac you'll never understand. I use both at work and cringe every time I have to sit at a PC

[Anathema]

Yes and No. It is foolish to think Mac users are immune. I can unequivocally say that isn't so. Also, Mac users are as susceptible to malware, spyware and any other tracking ware as PC users. Often it doesn't affect the Mac the same way as it does a PC but it makes both unstable and slow. Most of the malicious code and viruses are directed at PCs for you reasons you cite but once in a while one pops up that infects Macs and generally doesn't affect Macs as terminally as it does PC but, still creates problems. Slow acting Trojan Horses a few years ago were a problem but I haven't heard of one in a long time.

You PC guys will never admit it but comparing a Mac to PC is like comparing a Cadillac to a Ford Escort. Until you actually try and commit yourself to a Mac you'll never understand. I use both at work and cringe every time I have to sit at a PC

I own and use both, as well as Linux.  I like both for different reasons but you'll never hear me towing the old "lol mac doesn't have to worry about viruses" line that so many ignorant fanboy types like to spout.  And no, it's nothing like comparing a Cadillac to an Escort but don't let me stand in the way of your fanboyism.

[Faux Pas]

I own and use both, as well as Linux.  I like both for different reasons but you'll never hear me towing the old "lol mac doesn't have to worry about viruses" line that so many ignorant fanboy types like to spout.  And no, it's nothing like comparing a Cadillac to an Escort but don't let me stand in the way of your fanboyism.

You can call it fanboyism if you want but I call it a "believer". One Mac will out live 3 PCs or more of any variety

[Anathema]

I assume you have some sort of independent testing data to back up that claim?  I find it extremely unlikely since both Macs and PCs share a lot of the same, third party hardware.  There's no magical Apple fairy dust that they sprinkle on their Intel Core processors that makes them last longer than any other Intel Core processor.

[jone]

I use PCs.  My kids use Macs.  The lifespan of both types of computers appears to be the same from my perspective.  I have PCs that have greatly outlived the Macs that I buy for the kids.

[Faux Pas]

I have what matters to me the most, "my testing". Like most folks in the 90's I started on PCs and was first introduced to macs in the late 90's and at that time mac had a lot of problems. Both financially as a company and with their OS as well as the hardware. They still worked well in my particular work environment. I didn't buy my first mac until 2002 IIRC. I had both mac and PC simultaneously for a number of years after that. My kids had PCs and I the only mac. 3-1 was the going rate. Most PCs I've bought wasn't worth much if they even worked after the 3 year. I've owned 4 Mac's since 2002 and they are all working now. I haven't bought a PC since I sent the last kid off to college in 2008 and likely never will again

[Faux Pas]

I assume you have some sort of independent testing data to back up that claim?  I find it extremely unlikely since both Macs and PCs share a lot of the same, third party hardware.  There's no magical Apple fairy dust that they sprinkle on their Intel Core processors that makes them last longer than any other Intel Core processor.

One of the best things Mac did was to incorporate Intel into their machines. The Mac processors were fast enough but they ran hot and burned out too fast or burning something else in the machine. The difference is Mac and PC is mostly the operating platforms although I'd still give Mac the edge in hardware as well. Mac is much more simplified, as it should be IMHO

[SANDRO43]

Apropos of a PC heating up : some years ago my laptop with WinXP started showing the dreaded "Blue screen Of Death" all too frequenlty . I thought it an SW problem, and foolishly replaced it with a fresher copy - to no avail. Since no other alternative seemed available then, I proceeded to replace WinXP with Win7, losing all my previous data .

Then who was helping me noticed that its internal temp seemed too high, opened it up and discovered that the cooling fan was clogged with accumulated dirt . A few squirts with an air gun cleaned it up.

Thus a piece of advice for who starts noticing odd PC behaviour: before thinking of possible SW problems on your WIn PC, first have a look at your HW!

There are some free SW tools like Advanced System Care that can show internal PC temperatures - as well as how fast the fan is turning to cope - with coloured bands indicating excessive values.

Even more simply, just place your hand next to your PC venting port: normally it should feel lukewarm at most, if warm or hot open up your PC - or have someone do it for you - and look for accumulated dirt! It'll save you a few needless worries - and some bucks, too !

BTW, occasionally you should also sweep your CD reader with a clean, dry cloth.

[Larry1]

Apropos of a PC heating up : some years ago my laptop with WinXP started showing the dreaded "Blue screen Of Death" increasingly frequenlty . I thought it an SW problem, and foolishly had it replaced, to no avail. Since no other alternative seemed available, I proceeded to replace WinXP with Win7, losing all my previous data .

Then who was helping me noticed that its internal temp seemed too high, opened it up and discovered that the cooling fan was clogged with accumulated dirt . A few squirts with an air gun cleaned it up.

Thus a piece of advice for who starts noticing odd PC behaviour: before thinking of possible SW problems on your WIn PC, first have a look at your HW!

5-6 years ago I was having problems with my laptop overheating. I took it to a repair shop. The guy opened it up and the fan area was clogged with dog hair from my girlfriend's Pomeranian.

[SANDRO43]

5-6 years ago I was having problems with my laptop overheating. I took it to a repair shop. The guy opened it up and the fan area was clogged with dog hair from my girlfriend's Pomeranian.

Therefore, you rightly dumped your GF, along with her hairy dog ?

[Larry1]

Therefore, you rightly dumped your GF, along with her hairy dog ?

Fortunately, I had broken things off with her a few months before, for reasons completely unrelated to the hairy dog.

[alex330]

We would encounter the dreaded BSOD with Windows all the time. But we were imaging hundreds of servers daily with different hardware, images, and outdated drivers. One of those three items was the usual culprit, but sometimes there was no other place to look other than the OS.