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« Reply #400 on: November 24, 2019, 12:45:07 PM »
Earlier in this thread there was some discussion of visits to Turkey.
I stated that, although I had been in Turkey several times, I would not go there today because of hard feelings toward Americans there.

From http://www.pewresearch.org/global/2017/06/26/tarnished-american-brand/

. . . roughly eight-in-ten in Turkey (79%) have an unfavorable opinion of U.S. This includes 58% in Turkey who are very negative toward the U.S., up 26 percentage points since 2015.

This was from 2017.  Today, the unfavorable numbers are likely higher due to our sanctions on Turkey, etc.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #401 on: November 24, 2019, 12:57:56 PM »
Thanks guys, probably depends on the girl to some extent I guess. There are probably those girls that are quite moralistic and the waiting type then there are probably those girls that don't mind and would rather get it on with a guy they like and as you say might wonder why if you're not showing much sign of interest within a shortish time frame. Considering the girl is into you with the moralistic girl type of situation I guess.

I do wonder if there is something in what he says as if a girl thinks you are going to jump into bed with her quick then you could do so with any girl in the future if that girl got into a LTR with you.

Briefly saw a bit on another interview this guy does with a girl and think she says much the same as this guy. Will try and find it when I get time, again it's on You Tube so you guys might be able to look it up. I don't think all women are like this out there but I think it might tie up with some girls seeing a guy wanting sex as reason to want what they want also, clothes, etc. While other girls may only be up for it with a guy they like and won't ask the guy for stuff.

I think you are overthinking this way too much. Women like sex just like men. Good girls are not going to jump into bed with you if they do not feel a strong attraction or feel that you are someone they want to be committed to and you are committed to them. There are other girls that are more available or are into you  at that particular moment.

Your last paragraph appears to be a lot of rumination. Go after the girl. Follow the other experienced guy's recommendation on here. Date lots of women and progress towards sex. Comparing her to the other women along the way. If she is interested you will know soon enough. If she is not you will know this. If she asks for stuff then you have to decide if this is appropriate or not. Sometimes that can be tricky as my earlier part of this thread shows. Some women lie just like some men lie. Sadly for me mine lied to me all the way through the relationship. And for my own fault, I ignored or misinterpreted some red and yellow flags along the way. Lesson learned. I will hopefully avoid these mistakes in the future. Lying makes it more complicated and harder to deal with.

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #402 on: November 24, 2019, 12:58:37 PM »
Follow that advice and the gal will think you are gay.

Remember what Davo told us the mother of the gal he was with in Southern Russia said regarding this topic.

What did she say?

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #403 on: November 24, 2019, 03:21:46 PM »
What did she say?

We had built up a solid connection over a long period of time online and when we finally met we shared a hotel room the first night. Being a gentleman I insisted on separate rooms ( they had a 2 bedroom suite). Mum called before we went to bed and I imagined the conversation went something like this..... “ Davo is an absolute gentleman. Don’t worry we have separate rooms and he’s not trying to take advantage of me”

Later she admitted the conversation went like this..... “ What’s wrong with this man? You’re an attractive woman!!! Why doesn’t he want to sleep with you???”

We had a good laugh about it.

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #404 on: November 24, 2019, 03:40:24 PM »
Ok. LOL

Kind of like Billy's MIL.

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Re: Visiting Turkey
« Reply #405 on: November 26, 2019, 04:07:08 AM »
Earlier in this thread there was some discussion of visits to Turkey.
I stated that, although I had been in Turkey several times, I would not go there today because of hard feelings toward Americans there.

From http://www.pewresearch.org/global/2017/06/26/tarnished-american-brand/

. . . roughly eight-in-ten in Turkey (79%) have an unfavorable opinion of U.S. This includes 58% in Turkey who are very negative toward the U.S., up 26 percentage points since 2015.

This was from 2017.  Today, the unfavorable numbers are likely higher due to our sanctions on Turkey, etc.

Most Europeans, Turks, Russians, etc think 'Trampu' is an idiot - does it stop 'us' coming ...?


Loads of Brits stayed away from Turkey, too - what with the Putin 'Charter flight and Package holiday ban' ..it was a truly GREAT place to visit ..

It's a bit like saying, " do not go to America because there's lots of school shootings and they are more likely to shoot each other "


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Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #406 on: November 26, 2019, 07:57:24 AM »
“ Davo is an absolute gentleman. Don’t worry we have separate rooms
and he’s not trying to take advantage of me”

Later she admitted the conversation went like this..... “ What’s wrong with this man? You’re an attractive woman!!! Why doesn’t he want to sleep with you???”

We had a good laugh about it.

I was meeting a gal in Dnepropetrovsk, she found an apartment for me to
stay in and we were talking about what color of panties she would be wearing
to the airport. I told her they should look good hanging from the lamp in the
apartment.

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FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #407 on: November 26, 2019, 08:02:17 AM »
I told her they should look good hanging from the lamp in the apartment.

Danger of catching fire.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #408 on: November 26, 2019, 09:22:31 AM »
Danger of catching fire.

Luckily the lamp shade protected them from that.

Later, after I got her out of them, we finished and she went
to the bathroom to do whatever women do, I stood on the
bed and hung them from a hook on the chandelier. She didn't
notice them for a while but she started laughing, Beel, Beel
you can't poot them there. She couldn't reach them and got
tickled when she tried. 

FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #409 on: November 27, 2019, 03:43:07 PM »
Well, it looks like I am getting closer to making a decision to make a WM/VM (thanks ML and Bill, and several other guys) trip to FSU in the near future. I have hopefully learned from my mistakes and I have a solid plan B in place.

I have four sites that I am looking at for prospects and I am looking at a good well-populated city. But I do not have a huge number of prospects to choose from. I do not want to go too low on the age scale.

It appears I may be able to get about 200 to write to. I did some tests writing with a different picture and different city and I got pretty good response rate back.

I am planning on making the trip in the winter in the FSU so that should be an adventure in itself. Just have to make sure my business is prepared before I go. I am looking at 3 to 4 week stay to make sure I get a good taste. Longest I ever stayed in FSU was 2 weeks.

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #410 on: November 27, 2019, 05:00:49 PM »
Well, it looks like I am getting closer to making a decision to make a WM/VM (thanks ML and Bill, and several other guys) trip to FSU in the near future. I have hopefully learned from my mistakes and I have a solid plan B in place.

Then you are a 'Mug'...

From what I've read, you're not the VM type - you'll be wasting your time and money ..

ML hasn't dated in the FSU in over a decade and Beel came on a VO trip and THEN struck gold by being honest ..

That's a VERY hard thing to do - it needs confidence and some Russian skills ..
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #411 on: November 27, 2019, 05:24:54 PM »

That's a VERY hard thing to do - it's needs confidence and some Russian skills ..


  VERY hard thing........Maybe for you but simple for me.

 Don't need Russian skills or confidence, just good planning.
A big plus if you are familiar with city.
I will get so brash, I may go see a couple in same city, in fact roommates. )))
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #412 on: November 27, 2019, 05:49:51 PM »
  VERY hard thing........Maybe for you but simple for me.

I missed where I claimed it was 'hard' for me .. but then those that keep going and 'boast' like you are the sort that think success is a 'jump' or two .. 


Don't need Russian skills or confidence, just good planning.


And how's that 'planning' worked out for you ?  ...

A big plus if you are familiar with city.
I will get so brash, I may go see a couple in same city, in fact roommates. )))

'Thanks' for demonstrating what I thought , 'Stud' ..


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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #413 on: November 27, 2019, 05:52:17 PM »
Then you are a 'Mug'...

From what I've read, you're not the VM type - you'll be wasting your time and money ..

ML hasn't dated in the FSU in over a decade and Beel came on a VO trip and THEN struck gold by being honest ..

That's a VERY hard thing to do - it needs confidence and some Russian skills ..

I don't know what a mug is but you are a d***. All you do is b**** and complain call people names.

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #414 on: November 27, 2019, 05:53:25 PM »
ok boomer!

newsflash from someone who has seen a boatload of guys like you OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES...
every SINGLE ONE who had that “sensitive ego issue” like yours ALWAYS FAILED in Ukraine...

EVERY...SINGLE...ONE...

Ukraine is gonna be outside your ability, OK?
don’t believe me?
neither did the other guys who failed....

leave your ego in a box somewhere...
because you clearly haven’t even the tiniest, slightest clue of how to operate in Ukraine
this is what he’s trying to tell ‘ya...
did this obvious bit of news hurt your little “feelings”?
awwwwwww shucks....

you need to get over this kinda juvenile emotional bullshit, ok?
and start learnin how to act and behave like an ADULT MAN, ESPECIALLY in Ukraine or Russia
OTHERWISE...
you’ll keep wasting your time regarding Ukraine like you've already been doing....
you'll be busy engaging with your feelings and not THINKING and definitely not winning any trophy from Ukraine...
cause basically you don’t display the mentality that you need to succeed in even the SLIGHTEST amount...

but other than that...
how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?





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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #415 on: November 27, 2019, 09:48:08 PM »
The murder mystery?  Pretty realistic.

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #416 on: November 28, 2019, 01:25:39 AM »
I don't know what a mug is but you are a d***. All you do is b**** and complain call people names.

Ah, I didn't expect you to appreciate my advice.. but it was well meant and specific, based on your previous posts.. 

You don't understand the culture, history, geography and so much more...

Please be sure to prove me wrong.. Other members will love that and I'll honesty be pleased )


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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #417 on: November 28, 2019, 06:16:19 AM »
ha...nothing was well-meant and specific about what you said...all you do is cry and whine and call people names.

And according to Krimster you will fail because you have a big ego. You have a consistent pattern of trolling and whining and using ad hominem attacks at whoever you can.

But I make one comment and I am the one who is going to fail? Lol

This is laughable. Krimster you better look around. There is nothing but sensitive people arguing about every little thing they can possibly find on here. So I guess I am in good company. lol

I guess now you will brag about how many Russian women you have chasing you around the house.  And you talk about my ego. lol

This is exactly why no one comes on here and reports anything but lots of guys lurking, because you guys harangue them and toss your little stones at them constantly. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. So what do you have left? Just each other to argue with.

I have never put up with bullies and their weak little ways and I don't intend to now.
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #418 on: November 28, 2019, 06:54:31 AM »
YOU are the one who is WEAK and INEXPERIENCED....
and it shows....

and if WE see it...
so will Ukrainian women....

don't EVER demand that others treat you a certain way...
if you can't command RESPECT from someone based on your ability and knowledge
then you don't deserve to get it in the first place....

you're still struggling to get your FIRST Ukrainian girlfriend....
I am LIGHT YEARS past that and so are some others on this board....

if you're SO FRAGILE and want to be treated that way - fine....
but DON'T expect Russians/Ukrainians to baby you....
they will laugh at and heap scorn on such a weakling....
alles ist klar heute?

you don't get to play by your rules...
you either play by RUSSIAN rules
or you lose the game....

EVERYONE is a bully in Russia/Ukraine, you HAVE to be...
but you're new to the jungle
and don't know the jungle ways
and I think you NEVER will
and instead, you'll likely quit and give up after one or two more failures....
and you'll blame it on Ukraine, instead of blaming it on YOUR own failure to LEARN and ADAPT to a radically different world that you know NOTHING about...

lots of guys have come on this board full of sound and fury...
AND....
they quit, due to a lack of success like your first effort....
my prediction is that you will be one of them
OK?





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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #419 on: November 28, 2019, 07:19:40 AM »
hahaha Krimster: bragging and boasting and showing off, please look at me give me validation accept me as one of the boys. lol

You're pathetic. And you want to call me weak?

Please look at my photos, I want you to know that I am a ladies man. But I am fragile. hahahaha

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #420 on: November 28, 2019, 07:23:38 AM »
you just proved my point about your "mentality"...
and STILL you don't get it....


today MY house is FULL of stunning Russian MILFs and their equally stunning daughters! and there is much hussle and bussle and click and clack of dishes
they are ALL going "all out" to make a great Thanksgiving dinner, so I better stay the hell away from the master kitchen today while this project is going on...
and chill on the back porch with malchiki, earlier we did some skeet shooting... and THEN we drank some champagne after I put the Benellis away...

Russian deavochki making Turkey, Cranberry sauce and stuffing....hahaha
but that's about the only American food we'll be having, all the other Thanksgiving dishes will be Russian
as will be our house full of guests....
one of whom is a former GRU linguist who now works for GazProm in Houston
his daughters and mine are BFFs
networking!!! he's the guy who "recruited me" and got me in...
should hear some interesting Russian gossip at dinner after the wine from multiple GazProm sources....

we regularly have dinner with many interesting Houston area Russian ex-pats in the oil&gas industry and their children, most of whom are early college aged like my kids...
I was floating the idea of wearing my late father's Panama Suit today with a black tie because of the warm Houston weather...
but when I put it on and showed my wife...she just laughed and said "NYET!"....


so "da, eta pravda", my world is VERY different from yours scarface

so have fun in Ukraine, you might learn something, or not...
my guess is not...

sic transit...
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #421 on: November 28, 2019, 08:49:23 AM »
I missed where I claimed it was 'hard' for me .. but then those that keep going and 'boast' like you are the sort that think success is a 'jump' or two .. 



And how's that 'planning' worked out for you ?  ...

'Thanks' for demonstrating what I thought , 'Stud' ..

I never said hard for you Moby, it is your thinking that it is VERY hard to have VM.

 I don't talk about success, I talk about meeting and see where it goes. I'm not getting married for the thought of being married. Got to be for the right reasons, maybe I am not cut out to be married again, who knows.

Planning is good, Be in Russia and Ukraine soon, several cities involved with big NY eve party in Moscow.

Not a stud, just enjoy good company.

BTW- Jeremy says hi...….not!!!!! )))))
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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #422 on: November 28, 2019, 05:05:04 PM »
I currently have a VK contact list of about 100 Russian/Ukrainian women who are at “goddess” level... in their early to late 20s......
all single....
out of a total list of almost 2,000 VK contacts...

if I were using this as a dating “black book”
then I’d pretty much pick Moscva because that has the largest collection of contacts...

I’d get a suite at the “Four Seasons"
and setup “my shop” there...

I would rank my Moscva contacts...
and start with inviting #1 to my suite and see how it goes...
if the first date goes well, then there’s a second date, and 100% there is sex by the third date or it means it’s the last date and then I call contact #2....

I’m pretty sure I would NOT get past the third contact
before I would have given this tender young woman her first experience of “oral pleasure” (usually, it’s the other way around for them)

my experience is that this is how you “hook” a Ukrainian/Russian woman...
which is to get them addicted into wanting this...
especially if YOU’RE REALLY GOOD AT GIVING IT!!!
then they will be your SLAVE!!!

this is ALL it really takes...

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #423 on: November 28, 2019, 06:59:51 PM »
I currently have a VK contact list of about 100 Russian/Ukrainian women who are at “goddess” level... in their early to late 20s......
all single....
out of a total list of almost 2,000 VK contacts...

if I were using this as a dating “black book”
then I’d pretty much pick Moscva because that has the largest collection of contacts...

I’d get a suite at the “Four Seasons"
and setup “my shop” there...

I would rank my Moscva contacts...
and start with inviting #1 to my suite and see how it goes...
if the first date goes well, then there’s a second date, and 100% there is sex by the third date or it means it’s the last date and then I call contact #2....

I’m pretty sure I would NOT get past the third contact
before I would have given this tender young woman her first experience of “oral pleasure” (usually, it’s the other way around for them)

my experience is that this is how you “hook” a Ukrainian/Russian woman...
which is to get them addicted into wanting this...
especially if YOU’RE REALLY GOOD AT GIVING IT!!!
then they will be your SLAVE!!!

this is ALL it really takes...

I confess, I've never had much desire to lick a girl's butthole.
Kissing girls is a goodness.  It beats the hell out of card games.  - Robert Heinlein

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Re: Did I Screw Up?
« Reply #424 on: November 28, 2019, 07:14:34 PM »
I confess, I've never had much desire to lick a girl's butthole.

I'll see that and lower you 100.

I have zero interest in such.
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