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« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2014, 10:46:50 PM »
:rules          Hey thanks Jone for pointing out the grammar errors. But in 2 words WHO CARES?   There are only 2 things painful I see on this post and whole topic. 1. A person that spends there time correcting grammar errors. 2. The writer of this whole topic who loves to bash Russia and not have the facts right.

You really could not understand that the entire purpose of your post was incorrect?  Because you could not literately say that Krim had been 'A PART' of Russia?  That you didn't know the name of the President of Ukraine, even though you made your post about him? 

I am not a grammar coach.  Simply someone who understands sensibilities.  There is no one who will believe your point of view, right or wrong, if you have such trouble elucidating your thoughts.   I would guess that most of the people who went to that website you included did so out of amusement.  They were wondering what type of website would entertain a guy with such a low IQ.  Now, this is not an insult, per se.  Instead, it is simply reality.  It does not take much to learn the rules of writing. 

If you want to be read with the respect that I am sure that you deserve, learn how to write in a way that will make people want to read you.
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« Reply #51 on: June 02, 2014, 11:48:33 PM »
Apart - Merriam-Webster Online
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apart
Merriam‑Webster
separated by an amount of space. : separated by an amount of time. : not together. Full Definition of APART. 1. a : at a little distance <tried to keep apart from the ...


I read this post.  It was painful.  Surely thar is no one as illiterit as this here righter!

Dang! For someone whose native language is English yet clueless to the definition of the words feminist/feminism ( I don't need to post the link to that thread so Rockford can read it for himself now do I?), you should be the last person trying to saddle up on that high horse, jone. To make matters even more ridiculous, you even took the silly liberty to speak for the entire military female personnel in the belief you knew what you were talking about. LOL...

You don't agree with his view about this crisis, debate it and just understand you don't belong up that language saddle.

Sheesh.
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« Reply #52 on: June 02, 2014, 11:55:31 PM »
......I am not a grammar coach.  Simply someone who understands sensibilities.  There is no one who will believe your point of view, right or wrong, if you have such trouble elucidating your thoughts.   I would guess that most of the people who went to that website you included did so out of amusement.  They were wondering what type of website would entertain a guy with such a low IQ.  Now, this is not an insult, per se.  Instead, it is simply reality.  It does not take much to learn the rules of writing. 

Aww lordie! How easy they forget!

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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2014, 12:02:53 AM »
There is no question who's Nazi for East Ukrainians. Here is the results of yesterday air strike by Ukraine Air Force in Lugansk:


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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2014, 12:11:30 AM »
Iam not sure what news you follow but your wrong. The Ukraine crisis is all western backed. Western powers namely the USA sent in forces and overthrew an elected Government namely ViKtor Yushchenko. In a attempt yet again by NATO to encircle Russia with missiles and      military forces. yes Russia invaded Crimea but if you look in your history books Crimea has always been apart of Russia on and off through the years. When Russia invaded Crimea they were only talking back what was rightfully theres.   Go here and see for yourself   http://www.infowars.com/the-truth-about-the-ukraine-crisis/


Rockford, a lot of people been reading the wrong news. Crimea was Ukraine's. Below is a little history that has been erased by the Soviets but not in its entirety. You can read more about this in the thread "Sick of it". Regardless of who owns what and when in the past, we are dealing with today's borders and laws. Most of the World, including your country, doesn't recognized Crimea belonging to Russia.


The Soviet Union, rewriting history, destroyed those maps and made it illegal for anyone to possess them. Here's a website below explaining things and can be translated with Google translator or read what I translated below.



http://espavo.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3776235%3ABlogPost%3A1170437&commentId=3776235%3AComment%3A1170298&xg_source=activity


Lviv museum was transferred to the sensational original document - issued in Austria map in 1918, which first struck borders of Ukraine. On the map of Austria published in 1918 for the first time dealt borders of Ukraine. Lviv Historical Museum Foundation supplemented the original map of Ukraine in 1918. Museum transferred its private person. Unique card was accidentally purchased them back in Soviet times. Scientists say this discovery in Ukrainian cartography. Before that time was known only to map the Ukrainian lands Ivan Velichko 1896.


On the map of 1918, published in Austria, first struck the state border of Ukraine. On the map it is written - "Map of Ukraine 1918". It marked the boundaries of the UPR as of October 1918. Then the Ukrainian state owned territory of Transnistria, part of Belarus - Beresteyschina, Gomel region (stretched deep into the territory of Ukraine to Belarus 80-150 kilometers), and eastern Sloboda (modern Kursk and Voronezh regions - wedge extended to 250 kilometers) and the Crimea. Without a doubt, in the Ukraine then entered the Crimea.


Maps of Ukraine in 1918 purposefully destroyed during the Soviet era and its storage could get up to 10 years in prison. From Lviv Mikhail Gavrilov card accidentally acquired in the bazaar in Ivano-Frankivsk in the mid-80s of the last century. Scientists have no doubt about the authenticity of the card in 1918. During transmission, the original in the Museum of History noted that no one whom has no territorial claims. But the map is interesting for the Ukrainians who need to know their history and what the land once belonged to Ukraine, there still live Ukrainians have to worry about them.


There is no question who's Nazi for East Ukrainians. Here is the results of yesterday air strike by Ukraine Air Force in Lugansk:



If Russia stops sending in the irregular army, there would be less bombings. What's your solution if you were president of Ukraine and your next door neighbor is annexing your country and sending in armed troops to shit on your country? Have a pleasant talk with him?
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2014, 12:16:18 AM »
There is no question who's Nazi for East Ukrainians. Here is the results of yesterday air strike by Ukraine Air Force in Lugansk:



Well Belvis that may well be the Ukrainian Air Force but you can blame every deaths in Ukraine to the US. These are to be expected. By design, regime changes take their tolls. I'm sure Nuland is around baking more cookie$ for the 'troops'.
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« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2014, 12:49:32 AM »
More information on who and how is in eastern Ukraine
Quoting
"Hundreds of armed terrorists from Chechnya to freely cross the Ukrainian border and killing security forces and civilians, border guards just paid 15 thousand euros . At present borders of Ukraine does not actually exist - is just an imaginary line, drawn on the map. Between checkpoints hundreds of miles without fences, said the story of "Money." However, the main border guard Mykola Lytvyn, who has repeatedly tried to dismiss for failure to act, says the situation is under control. He said the cross border specially trained mercenaries Caucasians no prohibited.
Every day hundreds of terrorists crossing the border with weapons in their hands. According to unofficial data, in Ukraine from Russia has fallen 4.5 thousand fighters. Litvin justified and complains that the authorities are actually besieged militants: not enough no people, no weapons, no desire to fight terrorists. Most DPS officials say they are ready to repel any attack on the territory of Ukraine. However, their unscrupulous colleagues entire truck passed heavily armed extremists across the Ukrainian border only 15 thousand euros, according to activists Donetsk. Read more: In the Donbas Chechen fighters obmovylysya on camera, who came "to protect the interests of the Russian Federation" Expect bumps in can be from any party. Experts believe that President Vladimir Putin is considering attack on Ukraine and Belarus. Between Russia and Belarus is an agreement under which Russia takes the Belarusian land for military bases, and thus dozens of Russian fighters can cross the Ukrainian border every second.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/prikordonniki-propuskayut-v-ukrayinu-sotni-ozbroyenih-kadirivciv-za-15-tisyach-yevro-352790.html
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/prikordonniki-propuskayut-v-ukrayinu-sotni-ozbroyenih-kadirivciv-za-15-tisyach-yevro-352790.html



http://tsn.ua/politika/prikordonniki-propuskayut-v-ukrayinu-sotni-ozbroyenih-kadirivciv-za-15-tisyach-yevro-352790.html

And in the hands of militants holding Kalashnikovs hundredth of a series that never was armed Ukrainian army.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/na-donbasi-chechenski-boyoviki-obmovilisya-na-kameru-scho-priyihali-zahischati-interesi-rf-351849.html
Head of the Chechen Republic has estimated the number of its citizens in Eastern Ukraine.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/nakaz-vid-putina-chechenci-iz-gotovnistyu-vikonayut-na-shodi-ukrayini-kadirov-352503.html

Ramzan Kadyrov Chechen admitted participation in hostilities in Ukraine - said the plot TSN.19 30 . In an interview with a Russian TV channels Chechen President said that the volunteer is 14. One killed, four wounded. According to Kadyrov, when a corresponding order-in-Chief Vladimir Putin Chechens willing to execute it in Eastern Ukraine.
Більше читайте тут: http://tsn.ua/politika/nakaz-vid-putina-chechenci-iz-gotovnistyu-vikonayut-na-shodi-ukrayini-kadirov-352503.html
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2014, 02:00:11 AM »
There is no question who's Nazi for East Ukrainians. Here is the results of yesterday air strike by Ukraine Air Force in Lugansk:




It doesn't look like the explosion was caused by the air strike but by someone on the ground.   More than likely someone trying to shoot down the plane.


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« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2014, 02:38:18 AM »
Belvis,

         Yep,no doubt the Eastern Ukrainians will know who the Nazi's are.

Unfortunately for you,it probably won't be the Ukraine Government or Ukraine Air Force. :)

I'd say your propaganda attempt has back-fired.

Of course,if the pro-Russian seperatists had allowed the people of Luhansk and Donetsk to vote in the election for a new President of Ukraine,we would know better how those people felt.....I wonder why they weren't allowed to vote ? :rolleyes:
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Just saying it like it is.

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« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2014, 06:07:00 AM »
If Russia stops sending in the irregular army, there would be less bombings. What's your solution if you were president of Ukraine and your next door neighbor is annexing your country and sending in armed troops to shit on your country? Have a pleasant talk with him?

My feelings don't matter. Feelings of East Ukranians do.  As far as I can see the bloody separation in minds has been done, so what are you going to do as the president of Ukraine? Kill  them all  is not a feasible option.


It doesn't look like the explosion was caused by the air strike but by someone on the ground.   More than likely someone trying to shoot down the plane.




Tell this to people of Lugansk, may be they believe your version. Officials collected there the fragments of S-8KO rockets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-8_rocket), about 20 were fired, one hit the building, others hit the nearby park with pedestrians, not all of them had exploded.


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« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2014, 07:59:47 AM »
Dang! For someone whose native language is English yet clueless to the definition of the words feminist/feminism ( I don't need to post the link to that thread so Rockford can read it for himself now do I?), you should be the last person trying to saddle up on that high horse, jone. To make matters even more ridiculous, you even took the silly liberty to speak for the entire military female personnel in the belief you knew what you were talking about. LOL...

You don't agree with his view about this crisis, debate it and just understand you don't belong up that language saddle.

Sheesh.


Sleeping with the bottle again, Matt?  At 12:30 at night, we can all picture you madly typing away on your computer.   Your posts late at night become more and more incoherent. 
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« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2014, 08:01:40 AM »

Tell this to people of Lugansk, may be they believe your version.


Is this rhetoric necessary or are you having a defensive day today, Belvis?   While I have seen an unexploded rocket was seen, in the park, I haven't seen anything stating what type of rocket it was. 
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« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2014, 08:04:53 AM »

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« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2014, 08:06:29 AM »
Russian terrorist initiated explosions in Luhansk:

http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.nl/2014/06/staged-attack-with-rpg-from-tree-in.html


While it appears to me it wasn't the fighter jet, your link reeks of propaganda and hard to digest because of it. 

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« Reply #64 on: June 03, 2014, 08:07:25 AM »
Sleeping with the bottle again, Matt?  At 12:30 at night, we can all picture you madly typing away on your computer.   Your posts late at night become more and more incoherent. 

Considering I don't really drink, rather silly for you to even remotely suggest such. Any other English word/s I can help you with, jone? Or maybe I should ease off with you before you go crying to the overlords again, yes?

Bought yourself a date lately?

LOL.


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« Reply #65 on: June 03, 2014, 08:13:24 AM »

While it appears to me it wasn't the fighter jet, your link reeks of propaganda and hard to digest because of it.

They all are. They eat them up. They're designed to get these dedushkas adrenaline pumping. It's pretty funny to see how these 60-70 year olds get all bent out of shape, too.

If they're so pissed, why don't they pick up arms and go to these war zones and show the folks they call bastards how they really feel, no?

The dramatics are hysterical.....


an aside: If the jet didn't fire at the park, did the *investigator* at least took the time to show what it did fired at? One would presume the jet actually fired at something based on those photos...
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« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2014, 08:14:51 AM »

While it appears to me it wasn't the fighter jet, your link reeks of propaganda and hard to digest because of it.

Actually, LFU, I have spent two pleasant summers in Luhansk, with quite some time with my fiancee in that very park, where children play amongst the trees. So, believe me, you Putin sycophant, it's not propaganda but pure visceral hatred that I now have for Putin and his state-sponsored terrorists.

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« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2014, 08:18:48 AM »
They all are. They eat them up. They're designed to get these dedushkas adrenaline pumping. It's pretty funny to see how these 60-70 year olds get all bent out of shape, too.

If they're so pissed, why don't they pick up arms and go to these war zones and show the folks they call bastards how they really feel, no?

The dramatics are hysterical.....
Dramatics, you a$$? It's not your woman being a pedestrian on the sidewalks of Luhansk, just trying to get to her next English tutoring appointment without getting shot.

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« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2014, 08:19:09 AM »
Actually, LFU, I have spent two pleasant summers in Luhansk, with quite some time with my fiancee in that very park, where children play amongst the trees. So, believe me, you Putin sycophant, it's not propaganda but pure visceral hatred that I now have for Putin and his state-sponsored terrorists.


Yeah, I am sure it hits home for you after spending time in the park.  Same for me when the Odessa fire happened. 


I am still waiting for more sources to come out.  It's hard to even figure out what happened when so much disinformation is being thrown out there.  Looking at the picture I posted (which came from a video feed that I also watched), it looked like it was fired from the ground. 
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« Reply #69 on: June 03, 2014, 08:21:19 AM »
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Actually, LFU, I have spent two pleasant summers in Luhansk, with quite some time with my fiancee in that very park, where children play amongst the trees. So, believe me, you Putin US Center for Democracy sycophant, it's not propaganda but pure visceral hatred that I now have for Putin Democrats and his state-sponsored terrorists.

There. Fix that for you....


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« Reply #70 on: June 03, 2014, 08:23:36 AM »
an aside: If the jet didn't fire at the park, did the *investigator* at least took the time to show what it did fired at? One would presume the jet actually fired at something based on those photos...


I think it is still too recent.  Judging from the video and pictures, it looked to originate from the park (possible someone trying to shoot the jet down?).  I couldn't make out anything from above hitting the ground.  I did read there was dud missile in the park so hopefully more info will come out.  No mention of what type of missile so I don't know if what Belvis said is true or not as of right now.  Not that Belvis doesn't have a trustworthy face.   :P


I think it is too quick to eat up the propaganda until more time passes and hopefully more info.
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« Reply #71 on: June 03, 2014, 08:24:57 AM »
Dramatics, you a$$? It's not your woman being a pedestrian on the sidewalks of Luhansk, just trying to get to her next English tutoring appointment without getting shot.

Oh the drama! Give the man an Oscar!!!

*Your* woman wasn't anywhere close to where the blast took place so quit huffing and puffing. It ain't WW II anymore pops. Germany surrendered a long time ago, LOL. Time to go home pops. The *war* is over.
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« Reply #72 on: June 03, 2014, 08:27:42 AM »

I think it is still too recent.  Judging from the video and pictures, it looked to originate from the park (possible someone trying to shoot the jet down?).  I couldn't make out anything from above hitting the ground.  I did read there was dud missile in the park so hopefully more info will come out.


I think it is too quick to eat up the propaganda until more time passes and hopefully more info.

Exactly. The *spark*from the tree  look more like light refraction thant a *missile*. Like the sun reflecting off the mirror. RPG have entrails when fired.

Anyway, like you said, too early to tell either way BUT what did the jet actually fired at then? Is there info on that?
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« Reply #73 on: June 03, 2014, 08:34:12 AM »
Exactly. The *spark*from the tree  look more like light refraction thant a *missile*. Like the sun reflecting off the mirror. RPG have entrails when fired.

Anyway, like you said, too early to tell either way BUT what did the jet actually fired at then? Is there info on that?


No idea where they fired at, to be honest.  All I read was the military took out two mortar detachments but didn't say where they were. 


My gut reaction is this doesn't make sense.  To me, it seemed the military was being cautious when it came to civilians which was why they were having a hard time fighting the separatist.  Maybe something went wrong but I find it hard to believe they would fire into a public park. 
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The Russian Invasion of Ukraine-The Real Nazis
« Reply #74 on: June 03, 2014, 08:51:04 AM »
Oh the drama! Give the man an Oscar!!!

*Your* woman wasn't anywhere close to where the blast took place so quit huffing and puffing. It ain't WW II anymore pops. Germany surrendered a long time ago, LOL. Time to go home pops. The *war* is over.


haha  Hey man, give the guy a break, anything that gets his old blood flowing, at his age, has got to be a good thing.

 

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