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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2020, 10:21:13 PM »

the financial fallout is going to get steeper

Yes.  Not a time to buy the dips. 

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the bond market will be next...

Ha Ha!  Bonds have increased in value, with the interest rate on the 10-yr bond the lowest in history. 


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it could get as bad as 2007 later this year....

Nope, entirely different because unlike 2008 the financial system so far is not at risk.   

Monday's dip was not just about COVID-19 outside of China.  Monday started with the healthcare stocks taking a big hit because of Bernie's success in NV, creating the negative thought that he with his wacky ideas could  actually be elected.  If you want to see the stock market crash, elect Bernie. 

Today was continuation of COVID-19 selloff. Which stocks were hit the hardest - the overpriced momentum stocks.  They are coming back to earth. 
 

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...and I am SO relieved that we have the greatest president in the history of the universe now!!!

Isn't it great.  Just G-R-E-A-T!!!!!!!

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2020, 10:50:45 PM »

eventually, most of us are going to be infected
and 1-2% of us will die


Italy reports they have 322 people infected. They report 11 people finished their battle with the virus. 1 person fully recovered. The other 10 died.

The cruise ship reports they currently have 691 people infected and 3 people finished their battle with the virus and all 3 died.

Iran reports they currently have 95 people infected and 16 people finished their battle with the virus and all 16 died.

South Korea reports they have 1146 people infected and 32 finished their battle with the virus. 22 made a full recovery and 10 died.

I don't trust Chinese reporting. Their numbers imply there are 10 recoveries for every one death. Almost 10% or 1 out of 11 people die from this virus according to China so far. In comparison 1 out of 1000 people die from the flu.

http://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #102 on: February 26, 2020, 08:20:54 AM »
This is nature sorting itself out and finding balance. It's been long overdue.
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #103 on: February 26, 2020, 09:02:28 AM »
This is nature sorting itself out and finding balance. It's been long overdue.

Natural selection?  Within the human species?  Or  humans vs. viruses?

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #104 on: February 26, 2020, 09:54:09 AM »
Natural selection?  Within the human species?  Or  humans vs. viruses?

Everything/one.

I am just often reminded that any 'being' in a given ecological environment have their owns means not only to propagate its kind, but also hold in check others from dominance. Always the persistence of balance. Virus and bacteria, as well as everything else - as studies have shown, mutate and evolve. Always that constant search for balance and preservation.

BTW, it isn't a coincidence that this latest virus, as with the recent few, originates from China. I'm sure during your travels in Asia and the southeast, you've laid witness to what is called - 'wet markets', snake alleys, etc..where all sort of caged live (indigenous) animals are on display/menu for the offering.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2020, 10:02:45 AM by GQBlues »
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #105 on: February 26, 2020, 02:50:13 PM »
This is nature sorting itself out and finding balance. It's been long overdue.

We may not be happy with the sorting out after it’s done. The very young and very old are most vulnerable due to weaker or underdeveloped lungs. Our parents and children are likely to die. A few thirtysomething-year-old Chinese doctors have already died. Apparently the virus doesn’t value intelligent people. Those who are physically superior with stronger immune systems such as dumb jocks may be the ones left standing.
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #106 on: February 26, 2020, 06:13:26 PM »
this is an RNA virus, this makes it very unlikely there will ever be a vaccine...
also no currently known anti-virals have been effective
AND...
this is a FAST mutating virus, after all this is just another variant of SARS
SARS was completely unknown to science just 20 yr ago...
what might this virus be like even 5 years from now?
odds are it will be even more deadly than it is today with the more generations that it breeds in a human population
also this means this virus is likely to be re-transmissible like a cold or flu
so if you survive it one year, you might still get next year's strain...
 

China's GDP is going to drop 10% this quarter, this will ripple around the globe
the bond market will be the next financial market to suffer a major drop but with more consequence that the stock market

we are at the beginning...
of when the world becomes a giant empty ghost town
you will hear it cracking before it breaks

pretty good chance that someone who reads this post
will get the virus in the next 5 years
maybe even most of us

good luck everybody!


 
« Last Edit: February 26, 2020, 06:29:13 PM by krimster2 »

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #107 on: February 26, 2020, 08:59:33 PM »
Italy reports they have 322 people infected. They report 11 people finished their battle with the virus. 1 person fully recovered. The other 10 died.

The cruise ship reports they currently have 691 people infected and 3 people finished their battle with the virus and all 3 died.

Iran reports they currently have 95 people infected and 16 people finished their battle with the virus and all 16 died.

South Korea reports they have 1146 people infected and 32 finished their battle with the virus. 22 made a full recovery and 10 died.

I don't trust Chinese reporting. Their numbers imply there are 10 recoveries for every one death. Almost 10% or 1 out of 11 people die from this virus according to China so far. In comparison 1 out of 1000 people die from the flu.

http://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

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Are you simply trying to prove that you like to argue with yourself, with your 'stats' and 'mortality rates'?


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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #108 on: February 26, 2020, 09:45:13 PM »
BillyB

Are you simply trying to prove that you like to argue with yourself, with your 'stats' and 'mortality rates'?

I report the numbers the nations report. Not my stats. You're upset the numbers doesn't fit your narrative that this virus isn't much deadlier than the flu. China locked down 760 million people and 90% of their economy. China's neighbors completely closed their borders. Hello? Doesn't that tell you something? It's a good thing you're not in charge of a nation that is next door to China because you don't think what is going on is dangerous.
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #109 on: February 26, 2020, 10:26:03 PM »
this is an RNA virus, this makes it very unlikely there will ever be a vaccine...
also no currently known anti-virals have been effective


Sadly, you are probably right. This new coronavirus is similar to the viruses that cause the common cold but deadlier. There is no cure for the common cold although the human race tried hard to make one. If this new virus isn't beat, it may go around like the common cold forever and with higher rates of fatalities. SARS came from Civet cats and MERS came from camels. China says this virus came from a meat market yet they have not presented evidence of contaminated meat.

http://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #110 on: February 26, 2020, 10:48:38 PM »
I report the numbers the nations report. Not my stats. You're upset the numbers doesn't fit your narrative that this virus isn't much deadlier than the flu. China locked down 760 million people and 90% of their economy. China's neighbors completely closed their borders. Hello? Doesn't that tell you something? It's a good thing you're not in charge of a nation that is next door to China because you don't think what is going on is dangerous.


You 'report' numbers like others have then tell THEM that THEIR stats are 'fake news'.....

Your response  simply reinforced my observation...

There is enough data out there to show this virus has killed approx 1 percent..

That is FAR less that earlier SARS or MERS or Ebola.

Flu kills 100's of thousands..


Now the concern is could it spread so readily that medical services are stretched, resulting in deaths due to other illnesses not being treated.










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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #111 on: February 27, 2020, 06:25:29 AM »
BAD SIGN -  INEXPLICABLE CASE IN CALIFORNIA

COVID confirmed for one person with "....no travel history to an affected area and no known contact with a person previously diagnosed with COVID-19."   This could be the start of community spreading. 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #112 on: February 27, 2020, 07:16:02 AM »
BAD SIGN -  INEXPLICABLE CASE IN CALIFORNIA

COVID confirmed for one person with "....no travel history to an affected area and no known contact with a person previously diagnosed with COVID-19."   This could be the start of community spreading.

She probably bought something on eBay, or from those internet roving merchants, and finally received shipment. I haven’t yet read if this virus is transmitted via touch, airborne, or other means.

There was a report of a Korean Airlines flight attendant that hubbed at LAX who was later found to be infected with the virus. There doesn’t seem to be a follow up report on this story.
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #113 on: February 27, 2020, 08:13:47 AM »
She probably bought something on eBay, or from those internet roving merchants, and finally received shipment. I haven’t yet read if this virus is transmitted via touch, airborne, or other means.
 
if it transmits through ebay we are going to be in deep trouble.
I just happened to be browsing about the internet....

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #114 on: February 27, 2020, 08:17:01 AM »
Italy reports they have 322 people infected. They report 11 people finished their battle with the virus. 1 person fully recovered. The other 10 died.

The cruise ship reports they currently have 691 people infected and 3 people finished their battle with the virus and all 3 died.

Iran reports they currently have 95 people infected and 16 people finished their battle with the virus and all 16 died.

South Korea reports they have 1146 people infected and 32 finished their battle with the virus. 22 made a full recovery and 10 died.

I don't trust Chinese reporting. Their numbers imply there are 10 recoveries for every one death. Almost 10% or 1 out of 11 people die from this virus according to China so far. In comparison 1 out of 1000 people die from the flu.

http://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
if your numbers are correctedly depicted then this is going to be very bsd.   it seems you are saying thta most people are still infected and it would seem many will be dead later...the way you characterize it is hardly anybody survives...if that is the cqse then in a few weeks 80k will be dead. we shall see
I just happened to be browsing about the internet....

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #115 on: February 27, 2020, 10:28:16 AM »
LMAO! Nanci Pelosi's city of San Francisco just declared a citywide state of emergency to apparently prepare the city in the event of an outbreak of COVID-19. As of today, there is no known case of the virus in the city.

So I'm thinking…increasing amount of homeless people, feces on sidewalks, likely spread of hepatis-B, crimes in open daylight, thousands of used needles in public walkways, etc...weren't enough to scare San Franciscan, but watching news on TV about the virus scares the beejeeesus out of these libs.

Isn't it enough there's been a hiked rash of violence against Asian folks in the city, that they actually have to add to more unwarranted scare and chaos?
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #116 on: February 27, 2020, 10:53:42 AM »
She probably bought something on eBay, or from those internet roving merchants, and finally received shipment. I haven’t yet read if this virus is transmitted via touch, airborne, or other means.

There was a report of a Korean Airlines flight attendant that hubbed at LAX who was later found to be infected with the virus. There doesn’t seem to be a follow up report on this story.



Viruses do not survive during the time taken to travel from China to the USA - even if on a  overnight service


Can I get coronavirus from mail and parcels from China or other affected areas?






There is currently no evidence that you can catch coronavirus from parcels and letters. Viruses like coronavirus cannot live for very long outside the body.


http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/common-questions/





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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #117 on: February 27, 2020, 11:12:10 AM »
There currently is no definitive information on this virus transmissibility.

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China's central bank is taking steps to deep clean and even destroy its cash out of fears that the new coronavirus can survive on the surface of money and potentially spread, according to CNN.

But how long can the new coronavirus linger on surfaces, anyway? The short answer is, we don't know. But if this new coronavirus resembles other human coronaviruses, such as its "cousins" that cause SARS and MERS, it can stay on surfaces —  such as metal, glass or plastic — for as long as nine days, according to a new study. (In comparison, flu viruses can last on surfaces for only about 48 hours.)

 http://www.livescience.com/how-long-coronavirus-last-surfaces.html
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1. Because of 'man', global warming is causing desert and arid areas to suffer long, dry spell.
2. The 2018 Camp Fire and Woolsey California wildfires are forests burning because of global warming.
3. N95 mask will choke you dead after 30 min. of use.

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #118 on: February 27, 2020, 11:38:46 AM »
There currently is no definitive information on this virus transmissibility.

 http://www.livescience.com/how-long-coronavirus-last-surfaces.html

Me?

I prefer to rely on a micro-biologist, RU qualified MD  and retired surgeon ..  AND the NHS ..




 

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #119 on: February 27, 2020, 02:10:11 PM »
Me?

I prefer to rely on a micro-biologist, RU qualified MD  and retired surgeon ..  AND the NHS ..

Already been proven. 9 days give or take. Your NHS takes 4 hours for an emergency visit on a good day. That's before a pandemic. Pretty sure I know why you're hoping this is just a case of the sniffles. Certain Demographic, Prior condition. Poor Medical Service. I can be in an ER in 8 minutes if I call now and say I'm having heart issues. Wish you luck ;)

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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #120 on: February 27, 2020, 02:12:22 PM »
the fundamental difference between the flu and covid-19 is its “virulence”
covid-19 is on average 20 times deadlier than the flu!
thus far, covid-19 hasn’t established a permanent foothold in the US of A....
but, it is growing increasingly likely that this invader will cross our border one day and kill our people...
yet, for some reason we spend several times more on the wall with Mexico
than preparing for this scenario....

So far, there have been an estimated 19 million cases of flu, 180,000 hospitalizations and 10,000 deaths in the U.S. this influenza season – including 68 children, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

we’ll have to wait a couple of years to see the future trend of covid-19 to extrapolate it’s future size relative to the flu, since this is kinda year one for us...
but if covid-19 ever reaches the infection level that influenza does, then we could lose 400,000 people a year from that point on from this disease just in the USA

we can see from the response from Italy, Japan, China, that once the number of covid-19 cases passes a certain threshold that a certain level of social and economic breakdown occurs...

so you better be prepared before and not after...

hospitals will be overflowing, then tent hospitals outside in the parking lot, then turn patients away....

grocery stores and pharmacies will be empty

a significant amount of the pain that will be inflicted on society will be economic
China is forecast to have a 10% drop in GDP for Q1 of this year...
this will ripple through the global economy as China starts importing less...
if this economic effect continues long term and is not temporary
then a lot of debt dominoes are gonna fall in the next couple of years...
major decline in all asset classes
a global pandemic will send shock waves through the world’s markets
even worse than the collapse of mortgage backed securities in the mid 2000s

AND in parallel with covid-19
the influenza rate in China has doubled in the last 5 years
these trends are spooking every marketplace in the world

http://www.statista.com/statistics/861143/influenza-incidence-rate-in-china/

my daughter snuck me into a closed briefing at Rice University by a team of  university virologists.  China just handed out the DNA sequence for the virus as well as cell culturing protocol to grow the virus, saving the global community a huge amount of research time...

BUT...
one word is all I’m a-gonna say....
 
Биопрепарат

both past and future

isolationism

what other horseman are approaching on the far horizon
for I see many...






 
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #121 on: February 27, 2020, 02:57:23 PM »
Already been proven. 9 days give or take. Your NHS takes 4 hours for an emergency visit on a good day. That's before a pandemic. Pretty sure I know why you're hoping this is just a case of the sniffles. Certain Demographic, Prior condition. Poor Medical Service. I can be in an ER in 8 minutes if I call now and say I'm having heart issues. Wish you luck ;)

'proven' ?  :wallbash:

1/ The NHS doesn't make folks wait to be treated until they can find someone to pay when ill...  as happened with my first wife on a trip to Florida in 1994 .. She was in agony with acute Sinusitis...   We had medical cover  - but until I paid for the insurance excess - no treatment would be forth-coming ...     


The NHS is under-funded and top heavy with managers ... the LAST thing it needs is 'help' from our cousins who don't think healthcare is a right.

2/ Just because there' BIG money involved in US healthcare in no way guarantees good care

3/ Your very own CDC seems o agree with the NHS, my micro-biologist , MD and retired surgeon..



Q: Am I at risk for COVID-19 from a package or products shipping from China?

A: There is still a lot that is unknown about the newly emerged COVID-19 and how it spreads. Two other coronaviruses have emerged previously to cause severe illness in people (MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV). The virus that causes COVID-19 is more genetically related to SARS-CoV than MERS-CoV, but both are betacoronaviruses with their origins in bats. While we don’t know for sure that this virus will behave the same way as SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, we can use the information gained from both of these earlier coronaviruses to guide us. In general, because of poor survivability of these coronaviruses on surfaces, there is likely very low risk of spread from products or packaging that are shipped over a period of days or weeks at ambient temperatures. Coronaviruses are generally thought to be spread most often by respiratory droplets. Currently there is no evidence to support transmission of COVID-19 associated with imported goods and there have not been any cases of COVID-19 in the United States associated with imported goods. Information will be provided on the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) website as it becomes available.

http://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html



Pretty sure I know why you're hoping this is just a case of the sniffles. Certain Demographic, Prior condition. Poor Medical Service.

I'm CERTAIN you're clueless - PERIOD ..    :popcorn:


I can be in an ER in 8 minutes if I call now and say I'm having heart issues. Wish you luck ;)

Your  bizarre need to prove your daftness knows no bounds ... May be you've been listening to your President making a 'Richard' of himself re the virus and contradicting the CDC ?

If in the UK, I live a 20 minute plus drive from the nearest major hospital ...  I've never felt the need to live close to a hospital's Accident and Emergency ..

*I* could pick up the phone and a paramedic - one's normally on station near the motorway junction, nearby - would be home in less time than you need to be in the ER..  and guess what ?   No charge ..


The subject is COVID-19 and here's the World Health Organisation info on packages from overseas



Is it safe to receive a package from any area where COVID-19 has been reported?


Yes. The likelihood of an infected person contaminating commercial goods is low and the risk of catching the virus that causes COVID-19 from a package that has been moved, travelled, and exposed to different conditions and temperature is also low.












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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #122 on: February 27, 2020, 03:07:55 PM »
'proven' ?  :wallbash:

1/ The NHS doesn't make folks wait to be treated until they can find someone to pay when ill...  as happened with my first wife on a trip to Florida in 1994 .. She was in agony with acute Sinusitis...   We had medical cover  - but until I paid for the insurance excess - no treatment would be forth-coming ...     


The NHS is under-funded and top heavy with managers ... the LAST thing it needs is 'help' from our cousins who don't think healthcare is a right.

2/ Just because there' BIG money involved in US healthcare in no way guarantees good care

3/ Your very own CDC seems o agree with the NHS, my micro-biologist , MD and retired surgeon..



Q: Am I at risk for COVID-19 from a package or products shipping from China?

A: There is still a lot that is unknown about the newly emerged COVID-19 and how it spreads. Two other coronaviruses have emerged previously to cause severe illness in people (MERS-CoV and SARS-CoV). The virus that causes COVID-19 is more genetically related to SARS-CoV than MERS-CoV, but both are betacoronaviruses with their origins in bats. While we don’t know for sure that this virus will behave the same way as SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, we can use the information gained from both of these earlier coronaviruses to guide us. In general, because of poor survivability of these coronaviruses on surfaces, there is likely very low risk of spread from products or packaging that are shipped over a period of days or weeks at ambient temperatures. Coronaviruses are generally thought to be spread most often by respiratory droplets. Currently there is no evidence to support transmission of COVID-19 associated with imported goods and there have not been any cases of COVID-19 in the United States associated with imported goods. Information will be provided on the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) website as it becomes available.

http://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html



I'm CERTAIN you're clueless - PERIOD ..    :popcorn:


Your  bizarre need to prove your daftness knows no bounds ... May be you've been listening to your President making a 'Richard' of himself re the virus and contradicting the CDC ?

If in the UK, I live a 20 minute plus drive from the nearest major hospital ...  I've never felt the need to live close to a hospital's Accident and Emergency ..

*I* could pick up the phone and a paramedic - one's normally on station near the motorway junction, nearby - would be home in less time than you need to be in the ER..  and guess what ?   No charge ..


The subject is COVID-19 and here's the World Health Organisation info on packages from overseas



Is it safe to receive a package from any area where COVID-19 has been reported?


Yes. The likelihood of an infected person contaminating commercial goods is low and the risk of catching the virus that causes COVID-19 from a package that has been moved, travelled, and exposed to different conditions and temperature is also low.





HAHAHAHAHAH, you are adorable. Touched a nerve their eh old man?

Anyways glad I got you to write out a book. Enjoy the good times to come. I wonder if COVID19 will have a better or worse impact on someone with a current Lung Disease?

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-51565492

Maybe if you'd had to wait the 6 hours to be seen at an equivalent NHS you could have shown them you had coverage and still had 4 hours to spare, Not that all Americans are in my Position, but my last Hospital Ride and ER stay, costed me a $100 copay, billed to my house 3 weeks later and paid with my Company paid HRA.

;)
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Re: 2019 - nCoV (novel coronavirus originating in Wuhan, China)
« Reply #123 on: February 27, 2020, 03:09:29 PM »
3/ Your very own CDC seems o agree with the NHS, my micro-biologist , MD and retired surgeon..

CDC, hmmm..

In the case of the lone positive case of Covid-19 in California...

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Upon admission, our team asked public health officials if this case could be COVID-19. We requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, since neither Sacramento County nor the California Department of Public Health is doing testing for coronavirus at this time. Since the patient did not fit the existing CDC criteria for COVID-19, a test was not immediately administered. UC Davis Health does not control the testing process...

http://www.ucdavis.edu/news/coronavirus-patient-and-precautions-uc-davis-medical-center

...oh, and I'd like to add: "...low risk..." is still a *risk* just as 'almost dead is still alive'.
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« Reply #124 on: February 27, 2020, 03:12:40 PM »
I am worried about this as I have gall bladder surgery scheduled for 10th of March.

But if the virus starts to be treated in my local hospital before that . . . .

Gall bladder pain has been fairly  constant for past several days, but only around 2-3.

Was thinking about going to emergency room right now and tell them the pain is 9-10.
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