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female liar - cheater
« on: April 27, 2017, 02:15:42 AM »
Beware of _Sunshine_Tanya_, Tatiana, 30, January 06, 1987, Russia, Sevastopol. You can find her at USSR-STAR.com
The lady is a liar and THE cheater. She is after money only.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 02:18:01 AM by ivo »

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 03:35:36 AM »
Welcome ivo,

It's a pay per letter site, most of the women on these sites aren't looking for a real relationship. They get money or gifts from the agency they are affiliated with depending on the number of men they communicate with and how much money they bring in. There are several free/subscription based sites that will give you better results. Happy hunting!
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 04:09:31 AM »
That the site operates in a pay-for-letter-or-a-minute-of-chat mode I´ve known all along. But, if you are right and the women get awarded for communicating with us, then it is a sham and the business should not be on the internet, I suppose.

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 07:07:41 AM »
Paid sites are where women work.  If they want to meet someone they would just join mamba.ru or fdating.com.

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 07:13:47 AM »
That the site operates in a pay-for-letter-or-a-minute-of-chat mode I´ve known all along. But, if you are right and the women get awarded for communicating with us, then it is a sham and the business should not be on the internet, I suppose.

There are quite a few threads on the forum outlining the "business" of the agencies and sites -- do a search if you want to learn a LOT more.

The fact is that the sites could not function legally in western countries with consumer protection laws.

Beware of _Sunshine_Tanya_, Tatiana, 30, January 06, 1987, Russia, Sevastopol. You can find her at USSR-STAR.com
The lady is a liar and THE cheater. She is after money only.

If you are going to post this allegation --it would be a good idea to explain the basis of your comments and experiences that lead you to this conclusion.
http://ussr-star.com/dating-profile-charming-lady-Tatiana-Sevastopol-663541.html

« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 07:40:02 AM by JayH »
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 07:23:04 AM »
Paid sites are where women work.  If they want to meet someone they would just join mamba.ru or fdating.com.

"]Paid sites are where women work."

That is an oversimplification  -while your statement is correct in part --it does not tell the whole story. Scammers can be active on ANY site.

As I posted above -- you need to do a search of threads here on the agencies and the web sites.

Also of note-- on the most notorious sites -there are still genuine girls -- and girls who are being paid that still may be interested in a guy-- but-- the RIGHT guy and not just any guy.

There are quite a few example here on the forum of married guys who met on what are supposed to be the "worst" ( most costly) sites.
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Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 08:35:34 AM »
"]Paid sites are where women work."

That is an oversimplification  -while your statement is correct in part --it does not tell the whole story. Scammers can be active on ANY site.

As I posted above -- you need to do a search of threads here on the agencies and the web sites.

Also of note-- on the most notorious sites -there are still genuine girls -- and girls who are being paid that still may be interested in a guy-- but-- the RIGHT guy and not just any guy.

There are quite a few example here on the forum of married guys who met on what are supposed to be the "worst" ( most costly) sites.


So true. People have the tendency to think Black - White. 

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2017, 09:46:45 AM »
There are quite a few threads on the forum outlining the "business" of the agencies and sites -- do a search if you want to learn a LOT more.

The fact is that the sites could not function legally in western countries with consumer protection laws.

If you are going to post this allegation --it would be a good idea to explain the basis of your comments and experiences that lead you to this conclusion.
http://ussr-star.com/dating-profile-charming-lady-Tatiana-Sevastopol-663541.html

Well, yes. I also stick to the principle that any allegation ought to be supported by an explanation/proof. And, I assure you I do have both explanation and proof (physical proof). Yet, giving you either in full detail here is simply impossible. So, in a nutshell: the lady tricked money out of me for a new computer to replace her broken one under the pretense of being very interested in communicating with me; she also spoke about her extreme family problems and how she cannot cope without help, by which she managed to trick additional money out of me. Yes, in both cases I made a mistake in sending her the money, and yes, it is my problem. In addition to that she also lied in almost everything we discussed, as I have learned with time. Look, the money is not the issue. Damn the money. I can survive without them. What buggs me the most is the unscrupulous inconsiderate way she kept doing it for several months. How do you want to be building a relationship for several months without trust. Now I know I´ve been fooled by her and I let her make me a fool, but be it to my defense that I could not know in advance. Well, I did not have the right odds on my side in her case.

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2017, 10:08:01 AM »
Ivo--  it will not help much to say you are not alone ! Many guys here have a similar tale to tell --and if you search forum there has been a long line of similar posts.
I can also say that it is the fact your emotions are played in this way that it hurts -- and not the money -- I agree with you on that.
I am sure others will add more on the money issues !
The big trick for you now is to get past this and do not allow it to colour your future -- sure --learn from it -- but blame yourself and not a future lady.
Too many guys go scam hunting and are so negative that it prevents any chance in the future .
My comment that I have repeated many times--  think of this exercise as like trying to find a needle in a haystack -- but -- first you have to find the haystack !

btw --what age are you?  the lady nominated 30-69 yo !!!
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2017, 06:57:51 PM »
Ivo--  it will not help much to say you are not alone ! Many guys here have a similar tale to tell --and if you search forum there has been a long line of similar posts.
I can also say that it is the fact your emotions are played in this way that it hurts -- and not the money -- I agree with you on that.
I am sure others will add more on the money issues !
The big trick for you now is to get past this and do not allow it to colour your future -- sure --learn from it -- but blame yourself and not a future lady.
Too many guys go scam hunting and are so negative that it prevents any chance in the future .
My comment that I have repeated many times--  think of this exercise as like trying to find a needle in a haystack -- but -- first you have to find the haystack !

btw --what age are you?  the lady nominated 30-69 yo !!!


Ivo I'd pay particular attention to the part in bold.

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 08:20:09 PM »
Also,  I'd take a good look in the mirror and see the man the women see. 

If you join a subscription site, like Elena's, it is a better chance that the women you meet will have marriage on their mind.

Challenge the women to talk to you on Viber or WhatsApp or Skype.  If she is not willing, go on to the next one.

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2017, 12:51:38 AM »
Beware of _Sunshine_Tanya_, Tatiana, 30, January 06, 1987, Russia, Sevastopol. You can find her at USSR-STAR.com
The lady is a liar and THE cheater. She is after money only.

In my opinion your scan statement here is setting you off on the wrong course to start with. It's not often I agree with JayH but he does seem to be talking some sense for a change! Ivo, your best off forgetting about this girl and about reporting scammers. There's websites out there just entirely devoted to reporting scammers but posting any link up would do a dis-service to you I feel. Your best of staying away from that whole scene as once suckered in you could end up obsessing about scam hunting and not about finding real love - which is what you're after is it not? Just think all the time you spend scam hunting you are not spending on love hunting, i.e your wasting valuable time in the wrong pursuit and could be landing a girl instead of reporting another scam.

Scams happen on all sites but PPL is swamped with them, perhaps most PPL sites it will be around 90 percent or more girls will be scammers - just messaging for money, or worse.

On a pay monthly site like Elena's I reckon from my time on there its around 50 percent of the girls there are not serious about finding a guy but are there to keep subscribers on board with the odd few messages here & there.

Free sites probably have the least scammers perhaps 10-20 percent but the ratio of replies will likely be much lower, but I think its probably your best bet.

As JayH said on here, it is possible to come across a girl on a PPL site that is serious or a scammer that takes a love interest in you BUT the odds are stacked heavily against you - some guys get off on this thinking they can beat the house but just like in gambling the house nearly always wins. PPL has been known to cost guys thousands, which is what can end many a guy's search for a FSW early. So I think you would be better of staking your odds elsewhere on either monthly or free sites - hell even a tour is probably more favorable than a PPL correspondence.
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2017, 07:54:35 AM »
So, in a nutshell: the lady tricked money out of me for a new computer to replace her broken one under the pretense of being very interested in communicating with me; she also spoke about her extreme family problems and how she cannot cope without help, by which she managed to trick additional money out of me. Yes, in both cases I made a mistake in sending her the money, and yes, it is my problem. In addition to that she also lied in almost everything we discussed, as I have learned with time. Look, the money is not the issue. Damn the money. I can survive without them. What buggs me the most is the unscrupulous inconsiderate way she kept doing it for several months.


Don't get involved with women that have lots of problems that are solved with money. Whether the woman really interested in you or scamming you, the financial hit you will always take isn't fun if her life is a mess. Just best to get involved with a lady who's life is in order.

How do you want to be building a relationship for several months without trust. Now I know I´ve been fooled by her and I let her make me a fool, but be it to my defense that I could not know in advance. Well, I did not have the right odds on my side in her case.

You will never have a relationship with someone you never met. You have to assume responsibility for the months you lost in your life devoting yourself to her. It's not wise to make a commitment with someone you never met. You are in the search phase for a woman. Communicate with a lot of women and choose the best. What chances do you have in getting the best woman if you're only focused on one?

Do lots of reading here and it'll improve your odds in finding a wonderful woman like many of us here have done. Welcome to the forum.
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2017, 05:24:36 PM »


btw --what age are you?  the lady nominated 30-69 yo !!!

In search of between 18 and 80..................
This is quite common in listings through 'dating' agencies.

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the lady tricked money out of me

 Tricked?  :rolleyes:
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2017, 08:27:22 PM »
When I was last looking I registered on the site and got 10 to twenty letters a day,))

I never paid a penny to them...just used software to track down a lady in another place.

Most photos were 5 years plus out of date...the ladies had  registered  and long since forgotten  and NO WAY were THEY communicating.

Only one out of 50 plus I tracked down objected to my methodology..suggesting  I use the site as a means of contact.

The site is a joke.....simply massaging your ego..

My profile was v specific...not seeking a child bride and setting a min. age WAY above most of the responses which were clearly NOT from the real lady is the vast majority of cases.

If..you found a good place to learn...check out the 10 commandments of  seekinking a Former
Soviet Union lady.

Good luck


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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2017, 11:03:47 PM »
When I was last looking I registered on the site and got 10 to twenty letters a day,))

I never paid a penny to them...just used software to track down a lady in another place.



The 'How To's' would make a great thread. But probably your technique doesn't work anymore. 

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2017, 03:06:26 AM »
Worked by SC and I only 3 years ago ...saw her long non logged-into profile and played 'Sherlock Homes' to find her ;)

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2017, 08:24:20 AM »
Worked by SC and I only 3 years ago ...saw her long non logged-into profile and played 'Sherlock Homes' to find her ;)

Any relation to Sherlock Holmes?
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2017, 08:43:40 AM »
Any relation to Sherlock Holmes?

Got me, ML ... I am 'proof reading' important texts and cannot even get THIS one right !

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2017, 08:59:51 AM »
Got me, ML ... I am 'proof reading' important texts and cannot even get THIS one right !

Would help considerably if you put the 'bottle' down!!!
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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2017, 02:04:52 PM »
Would help considerably if you put the 'bottle' down!!!

I did meet Moby this weekend, but he wasn't drinking.

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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2017, 09:47:59 PM »


Except that 0.5 litres of 'Live Beer' at the Uzbek restaurant ! :))


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Re: female liar - cheater
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2017, 02:05:41 AM »
To add to what "Billy" said.....you need to read the Ten Commandments of dating FSU women. If you read and understand them.....ignore them anyway......you will know who to blame (yourself). I can't imagine sending money for "any" reason.....at least until you actually meet.....and have an actual relationship. I dated a doctor from Moscow foe awhile. On my first visit she was on good behavior. The second visit we were to spend a week in St. Petersburg.....and a week in Samara. By the third or fourth day in St. Pete I knew things were not going to work out between us. I did have a back-up plan.....but decided to stick it out. Not because I had any delusions that things may turn around.....but because I really wanted to see St. Pete & Samara. I was not disappointed with my decision. I especially loved Samara. And I thought the Doc's Mother and Aunt.....were a hoot. Her Brother & girlfriend were great....as were many of her friends. I had a great time. So.....even if you meet there are no guarantees. A few hundred dollars is a very cheap price......for hopefully......a lesson learned. Read the commandments.......don't make the mistake that "your" situation is unique.....it isn't. Let this one go......it is just not worth the time.


Eight trips to Russia.....lots of positive experiences.....and negative experiences. LOTS !!!!! of money......but all worth it in the end. The first trip I met my wife.....any thoughts of wasted money went right out the door. For me.....the good....and the bad.....equalled a fantastic experience over all. Almost 14 years of marriage.


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