New here and worried about war with Russia

[snowgoose]

My name's Rick and I've been dating a Russian lady and now I see advice not to travel there.

We are considering meeting in Turkey or Egypt. Any tips on where to meet in February where Russians should still be able to travel even if hostilities break out ?

[John Gaunt]

My name's Rick and I've been dating a Russian lady and now I see advice not to travel there.

We are considering meeting in Turkey or Egypt. Any tips on where to meet in February where Russians should still be able to travel even if hostilities break out ?

Have you met her already or is it just online meets so far?
If you haven’t met IRL her then you aren’t really ‘dating’.

[snowgoose]

Have you met her already or is it just online meets so far?
If you haven’t met IRL her then you aren’t really ‘dating’.

Thanks for responding. For sure, we have met ( several times)

This is what I am referring to.

http://www.traveloffpath.com/u-s-issues-do-not-travel-advisory-for-russia-and-ukraine/

[Davo]

It’s not phasing the guys I know that are planning to visit, myself included ...... What’s your girlfriend say?...... The Russians I talk with say it’s a non event and Putin’s claiming on state media that there will be no invasion, it’s just western warmongering, if you can trust his word.

[ML]

it’s just western warmongering

Yes, western nations warmonger by moving massive numbers of Russian troops on border with Ukraine.

[tfcrew]

When it says travel advisory...is this advising not to travel or forbidding not to travel?
Besides, you can only travel when you can board a flight anyway.
Where in Russia the lady lives could matter.
I would suggest ...meet in Poland.

[Davo]

Yes, western nations warmonger by moving massive numbers of Russian troops on border with Ukraine.

I’m not saying he’s a good man or his actions are right..... The Russians I chat with despise Putin and want to see him gone, but they don’t think he’s foolish enough to invade in this climate, Hence him essentially backpedaling on State media and denying any claims he’ll invade, but to save face he’s blaming western warmongering as the cause of the invasion rumors.

[GQBlues]

Yes, western nations warmonger by moving massive numbers of Russian troops on border with Ukraine.

Heaven forbid the US have never done such things...

Oh wait, my bad, the US never actually amassed massive numbers of troops along the border. It just bomb and invades any country it wants without hesitation.


 

[Jumper1]

 Most of the U.s embassy staff in Kiev was pulled over recent events.
They normally have intel the news doesn't, and they dont typically pull personal without good reason.

While I hope there is no invasion,  i wouldn't travel to Russia or Ukraine at this time.
 I typically  ignore travel advisories as they are often overly cautious.

You've met several times, so I'd wait a few weeks ,or plan a visit in another country as you mentioned.

There are a lot of different restrictions right now, they change often, so you would need to really check into that.

Personally I'd suggest Austria, or even DR.(or other Caribbean isles.)

Egypt is fundamentally limited to sharm.el.shiek.
Unless you enjoy diving ,or just hanging in a resort or casino or hotel.pool ,its not that good , its extremely limited as far as beach /swimming for *seaside resorts*.


The diving isnt anything like it used to be either.

Cyprus or Turkey could be options

She is russian, so a tourist visa to you maybe a possibility?

[GQBlues]

If you must meet sooner than later, maybe your best course of action is determine the best place (if outside her country) to do so considering the pandemic restrictions of various destinations that would be relatively convenient for both of you.

Thailand is scheduled to relax its travel restriction beginning February 1st.


http://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/thailand-travel-restrictions

[Davo]

If you must meet sooner than later, maybe your best course of action is determine the best place (if outside her country) to do so considering the pandemic restrictions of various destinations that would be relatively convenient for both of you.

Thailand is scheduled to relax its travel restriction beginning February 1st.


http://www.thaiembassy.com/travel-to-thailand/thailand-travel-restrictions

I have a friend who goes to Thailand twice a year pre-covid. He was planning to visit again soon, but is holding back till the end of the year...... Supposedly lots of businesses have closed and are now occupied by the homeless..... He said anyone who goes early will probably spend the whole time being accosted by beggars.

[tfcrew]

Yes, western nations warmonger by moving massive numbers of Russian troops on border with Ukraine.

I understand from the eve news that the USA has put 8500 troops on alert to stand up to those numbers!
http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/politics/biden-troops-europe/index.html

[GQBlues]

I have a friend who goes to Thailand twice a year pre-covid. He was planning to visit again soon, but is holding back till the end of the year...... Supposedly lots of businesses have closed and are now occupied by the homeless..... He said anyone who goes early will probably spend the whole time being accosted by beggars.

Understood and won’t be surprised if true. Such is the global climate with this pandemic. This will likely be, more or less, affecting various destination. Which is why methinks the OP need to exercise his own diligence to fit his/their personal situation.

[Hammer2722]

I understand from the eve news that the USA has put 8500 troops on alert to stand up to those numbers!
http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/politics/biden-troops-europe/index.html

That sounds about right for our troops! LOL

[snowgoose]

Thanks for all the responses, guys

My thinking was that flights to ex Soviet nations ( like Poland ) would be the first to be suspended, with Turkey and Egypt being less likely affected.

Cyprus is a good one.


Why do you think this is happening, now ?

I think Pres Putin thinks the west is weak and without Merkel will be at its most split.


Like many Russians, my lady does not feel she can change anything in her nation.

[snowgoose]

I have a friend who goes to Thailand twice a year pre-covid. He was planning to visit again soon, but is holding back till the end of the year...... Supposedly lots of businesses have closed and are now occupied by the homeless..... He said anyone who goes early will probably spend the whole time being accosted by beggars.

We have met in Thailand and I know a Russian family ( that we met) who have stayed there, with the teenage daughter attending school there.  They seem to live safely and well.

[Trenchcoat]

I understand from the eve news that the USA has put 8500 troops on alert to stand up to those numbers!
http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/politics/biden-troops-europe/index.html

They've been put on standby to stand and watch what happens on their TV screens.

[Chelseaboy]

They've been put on standby to stand and watch what happens on their TV screens.

I'm not sure USA or UK or NATO troops can offer anything regarding fighting Russians the Ukrainian army doesn't already know.


Ukraine has a much bigger army than the UK has for a start,and they've been training for this for seven years.


Provided we arm them sufficiently,which we now appear to be doing,then Russia is going to find this a difficult invasion..if it happens...especially, as Russian people in general are  probably not behind a war with Ukraine.


One bad battle, with lots of Russian troops killed, will put Putin in serious trouble.

[Chelseaboy]

Thanks for all the responses, guys

My thinking was that flights to ex Soviet nations ( like Poland ) would be the first to be suspended, with Turkey and Egypt being less likely affected.

Cyprus is a good one.


Why do you think this is happening, now ?

I think Pres Putin thinks the west is weak and without Merkel will be at its most split.


Like many Russians, my lady does not feel she can change anything in her nation.

Putin thinks Biden is weak...which makes NATO weaker.

[GQBlues]

I understand from the eve news that the USA has put 8500 troops on alert to stand up to those numbers!
http://www.cnn.com/2022/01/24/politics/biden-troops-europe/index.html

That’s exactly right. The US is currently out of war, and it very desperately needs a new one! Pronto Tonto! This administration needs something to disassociate its people from its domestic troubles and pressing problems. for instance mounting opioid deaths, uncontrolled inflation, virus, unabated crimes, etc. A call for a new war can have a momentary reversal impact on the current political attitude in the US today. Especially since this is the midterm election year.

If Russia doesn’t attack, rest assured the neocon will force and instigate one and ensure Kyiv becomes Aleppo II.

This will be carried out, like we always have, under good intention like we’ve done in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, Libya and in most places of our global community. The fact tens of millions of those countries citizens have paid dearly for our good intentions is really a small price to pay for our war games. Ukrainians will soon be in for a very rude awakening. This war isn’t happening on American, British or Russian soil. Bombs will come raining down on Ukrainian citizens, not Russians, Americans, British, but who the heck really ever cared about that?

Let the band begins to play.

[snowgoose]

The US is currently out of war, and it desperately need a new! Pronto Tonto!

Forgive me, but you may be repeating the same historical mistake that preceded  the 3rd Reich's expansionism in the mid '30's. 

You may be misunderstanding the Russian leadership. It is they that are provoking and have now painted themselves into a corner.  They cannot climb down.

 

A deeply unpopular Putin seeks a distraction and suggests to Russians that Ukraine are 'brothers', while 80 plus percent of it's citizens do not trust him. He needs to prove he is strong and believes the west will do nothing and he will suggest the west are "bad and weak" .  Might I suggest you read the some of the Russian headlines ?

NATO verbally promised no expansion to Shevardnadze when the USSR Foreign Minister and Putin ( a junior KGB officer in E.Germany ) still finds this hard to swallow and suggests aggression on NATO's part. 

A neutral would surely see that only his Russia has been invading territory.


Perhaps, you think sitting on your hands and covering your eyes and ears will not effect the US ? You are mistaken.  Inaction to the likes of Putin will simply bring a really large war closer. 

Has the US made foreign policy mistakes? By the bucket full, but that does not mean non-interventionism is the correct policy. In fact, it is bringing about the current crisis. What sane leader seeks war and wants to see armed forces coming home in body bags.  BOTH sides have to realise this. Only one does/



 

This war isn’t happening on American, British or Russian soil.

Let the band begins to play.

I fear you do not understand. A standard theme of Putin's Russia is to claim non Russian territory needs defending to protect Russian citizens. Russians will die. The question is going to be how many, if Putin thinks the west will simply make a lot of noise and  do nothing as you appear to be advocating.

[GQBlues]

Forgive me, but you may be repeating the same historical mistake that preceded  the 3rd Reich's expansionism in the mid '30's. 

You may be misunderstanding the Russian leadership. It is they that are provoking and have now painted themselves into a corner.  They cannot climb down.

 

A deeply unpopular Putin seeks a distraction and suggests to Russians that Ukraine are 'brothers', while 80 plus percent of it's citizens do not trust him. He needs to prove he is strong and believes the west will do nothing and he will suggest the west are "bad and weak" .  Might I suggest you read the some of the Russian headlines ?

NATO verbally promised no expansion to Shevardnadze when the USSR Foreign Minister and Putin ( a junior KGB officer in E.Germany ) still finds this hard to swallow and suggests aggression on NATO's part. 

A neutral would surely see that only his Russia has been invading territory.


Perhaps, you think sitting on your hands and covering your eyes and ears will not effect the US ? You are mistaken.  Inaction to the likes of Putin will simply bring a really large war closer. 

Has the US made foreign policy mistakes? By the bucket full, but that does not mean non-interventionism is the correct policy. In fact, it is bringing about the current crisis. What sane leader seeks war and wants to see armed forces coming home in body bags.  BOTH sides have to realise this. Only one does/

I fear you do not understand. A standard theme of Putin's Russia is to claim non Russian territory needs defending to protect Russian citizens. Russians will die. The question is going to be how many, if Putin thinks the west will simply make a lot of noise and  do nothing as you appear to be advocating.

Much too verbose, and the fact it preceded with Hitlerism renders this hardly worth a riposte.

One needs not think long and hard about recent history if one needs to assess exactly which nation had been actively engaged in hegemony the past two to three decades alone.

Worry more about what your own country is doing and have done.

[snowgoose]

Much too verbose, and the fact it preceded with Hitlerism renders this hardly worth a riposte.

If anything, your response suggests an unwillingness to sees the signs of recent history repeating itself.

Hitler felt humiliated by the outcome of World War I

Hitler felt France and England were subjugating Germany

Hitler used false flags as a pretext to invade

Hitler used civil wars in third nations as a pretext to test military hardware and gain experience.

Hitler annexed former territory under the pretext of protecting ethnic Germans and our forefather's stood idly by 

If the mention of the third Reich is the issue, I could have used the Japanese expansionism staring in in Manchuria  or Mussolini in Ethiopia.
 

 

[GQBlues]

A bit of a nervy response? Ever heard of Bush? Obama? Clinton?

 

[snowgoose]

A bit of a nervy response? Ever heard of Bush? Obama? Clinton?

I am very sorry that you felt the need to suggest an imagined emotional state, rather than engaging in reasoned debate to what I believed were sound parallels.

[Trenchcoat]

I'm not sure USA or UK or NATO troops can offer anything regarding fighting Russians the Ukrainian army doesn't already know.


Ukraine has a much bigger army than the UK has for a start,and they've been training for this for seven years.


Provided we arm them sufficiently,which we now appear to be doing,then Russia is going to find this a difficult invasion..if it happens...especially, as Russian people in general are  probably not behind a war with Ukraine.


One bad battle, with lots of Russian troops killed, will put Putin in serious trouble.

My thoughts are if Russia attacks they will rain down plenty of missiles on Ukrainian troops. So despite Ukraine being able to amass large numbers of troops they could be wiped out pretty quickly. It can be more a war based on size of missile arsenal these days that of amassing large troop numbers as of past times. Enough missiles that can hit home can decimate an army's soldiers and tanks in a very short period of time.

I'm not convinced that Ukraine has nearly enough weaponry to counter a large scale missile attack. Even with some anti aircraft stuff from the Baltic States and possibly if it has any kind of SAM equipment (which I get the impression it largely lacks) they are going to really have to have a lot of it to counter Russia's missiles and planes.

For me I'm thinking Ukraine still isn't quite there in being able to sufficiently counter Russia's military. The big Achilles heel of Ukraine's army remains it's weakness against missile attack for me. Any strong resolve of Ukraine's soldiers to resist the Russians isn't going to count for much if destroyed and in an instant by a missile. I think if it kicks off and it goes that way which I think it likely would then any soldiers left would take refuge in the cities to fight the Russians and then civilians would suffer in a Shirokino type of ending.

[2tallbill]

My name's Rick and I've been dating a Russian lady and now I see advice not to travel there.

We are considering meeting in Turkey or Egypt. Any tips on where to meet in February where
Russians should still be able to travel even if hostilities break out ?

Mexico, the Dominican Republic, the Bahamas.

It's a short flight from Florida and Russians are free to travel

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rbth.com%2Ftravel%2F334580-countries-russian-citizens-visit-without-visa&psig=AOvVaw2mpipji1pEqWU08p4VvINu&ust=1643228191817000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCLCw_pbczfUCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

[Jumper1]

Thanks for all the responses, guys

My thinking was that flights to ex Soviet nations ( like Poland ) would be the first to be suspended, with Turkey and Egypt being less likely affected.

Cyprus is a good one.


Why do you think this is happening, now ?

I think Pres Putin thinks the west is weak and without Merkel will be at its most split.


Like many Russians, my lady does not feel she can change anything in her nation.

Polish flights would be incredibly unlikely to be effected.
Warsaw is a huge hub for Europe and particularly connecting flights east. Russia etc.
Lot 1 and Lot 2  ,the msilmflights of polish airlines are direct warsaw to chicago non stop.
While there are things to sweat ,that wouldnt be one I'd worry over.

You ,and your date, would have far more chance of issues in Egypt. Still slim,bit more likely than Poland

I've been to both many times.

The beauty of warsaw is its ease of travel to other places in fairly reasonable times, Krakow,  Prague,  Vienna.
(Vienna is likely my favorite city)

Sounds like you are well traveled  so just check the destinations restrictions from both sides,and recognize your travel.would likely not be interrupted ,but her return could posdibly be for some days ,so have plan b as far as extended stay times etc.

[GQBlues]

My thoughts are if Russia attacks they will rain down plenty of missiles on Ukrainian troops. So despite Ukraine being able to amass large numbers of troops they could be wiped out pretty quickly. It can be more a war based on size of missile arsenal these days that of amassing large troop numbers as of past times. Enough missiles that can hit home can decimate an army's soldiers and tanks in a very short period of time.

I'm not convinced that Ukraine has nearly enough weaponry to counter a large scale missile attack. Even with some anti aircraft stuff from the Baltic States and possibly if it has any kind of SAM equipment (which I get the impression it largely lacks) they are going to really have to have a lot of it to counter Russia's missiles and planes.

For me I'm thinking Ukraine still isn't quite there in being able to sufficiently counter Russia's military. The big Achilles heel of Ukraine's army remains it's weakness against missile attack for me. Any strong resolve of Ukraine's soldiers to resist the Russians isn't going to count for much if destroyed and in an instant by a missile. I think if it kicks off and it goes that way which I think it likely would then any soldiers left would take refuge in the cities to fight the Russians and then civilians would suffer in a Shirokino type of ending.

Cheer up, bruddah!


Think Aleppo. Imagine the rush of refugees flooding the borders of Europe. You may even have the pick of the litter knocking down your unfinished door. Maybe two.

[2tallbill]

Mexico

I am doubling down on Mexico, especially in the winter time.
She is almost certainly shorter than you and it's far easier for
a skinny Russian woman to fly to Cabo or Cozumel for 10 hours
than for you to fly across the Atlantic in seats made for midgets.

You don't have to fight the jet lag. It's super easy for her to get
a visa.

She gets out of the snow and into a bikini, so her girlfriends will be
envious. You probably know more Spanish than Russian. Neither of
you likely know any Turkish. There are one million things to do. From
horseback riding, to scuba, to salsa dancing classes, to golf, to fishing,
to jet skis to riding quad runners.

Sand and saltwater between the toes of a Slavic girl is an aphrodisiac, 
it's like Viagra for women.

Make her promise in advance of buying the tickets that she will wear
SPF 500 as much as you can slather on her fair skin₁

The biggest disadvantage is the food will be too spicy for her, but you can
study up a little bit₂ and come up with a menu that won't upset her bland
palate and stomach. The locals can't help you they don't understand what
spicy is and what it isn't. Think grilled fish (not blackened), quesadilla's
(with no sauce) fruit, potatoes and vegetables. Find or bring ginger with
you. It will help settle her delicate tummy.

I assume that I don't need to say "don't drink the water."

2. Go to the web pages of 20 Cabo restaurants and look at the menu. Many
of them will have a few items from the sea that hasn't been dipped in battery
acid and ghost peppers. Google has decided you can't right click on restaurants
you have to left click on them leave the page of other restaurants for them to
get paid. Diablo anything is bad. If you see two fish items that aren't spicy, order
one for yourself and one for your girl. That way if one is spicy, you can swap items.

1. Get her to watch the Heartbreak Kid both 1972 & 2007 and get her to promise
that you can slather sunscreen on every exposed cm of skin on her body.

2. Go to the web pages of 20 Cabo restaurants and look at the menu. Many
of them will have a few items from the sea that hasn't been dipped in battery
acid and ghost peppers. Google has decided you can't right click on restaurants
you have to left click on them leave the page of other restaurants for them to
get paid. Diablo anything is bad. If you see two fish items that aren't spicy, order
one for yourself and one for your girl. That way if one is spicy, you can swap items.

Nothing will spoil your trip like a chilipepper tummy, a third degree sun burn or
Montezuma's Revenge.

Udachi!

Bill

[krimster2]

"female Viagra"
it's also called "big money"

big money makes women as horny as a "two-peckered billygoat"
word to yur mama

[LAman]

I am doubling down on Mexico, especially in the winter time.
She is almost certainly shorter than you and it's far easier for
a skinny Russian woman to fly to Cabo or Cozumel for 10 hours
than for you to fly across the Atlantic in seats made for midgets.

The OP was asking for flights in February.


Do you understand the feasibility of flying from Russia internationally at moment?
10 hour flight? shortest possible is maybe ~~24 hours to Cancun, add another 6+ hours if going to Cabo on one of the very few airlines flying out of Russia ( i think there is 3). Prices now for economy are ~$5000 usd!!


The rest of your post sounds like a married man fantasizing about being single again!!! )))

[2tallbill]

The rest of your post sounds like a married man fantasizing about being single again!!! )))

You are projecting.

I was explaining how to do things with a Russian woman in tow. I do all the things that
I spoke about with my wife. I get her to agree to wear sunscreen in advance of going
somewhere. I go through the menus so that I can find her something that she can eat.
I do or have done all those things in my post.

Regarding flights out of Russia, a Russian woman can go to a travel agency and instantly
find out how to get around all the crap. They still have travel agencies in Russia.

[krimster2]

she should try going to Istanbul from Sevastopol for a couple of days of shopping for "supplies for her business...." so SHE'LL BE RETURNING"

speaking of travel, instead of you guyz lookin for "pooty-tang" in Russia or Ukraine
you should instead check out
Uzbeckistan

I highly recommend The Hyatt Regency in Tashkent, it is a Western Oasis in a harsh land…
but Tashkent is kinda outta the way…

you need to either head south to Termiz on the border of Afghaniston to the “markets”

or

you head up north of Nucus to the Aral swamp

if you go to Termiz for shopping for Afghani emeralds, be sure to buy taxi money at the FOREX shops there, prices start at $10 USD!!!!  (see pic)

don’t buy the cut stones, only top-grade raw emeralds, these stones are MUCH brighter than Colombian stones
stay away from the opium markets!  or just buy a 10 gram baggy for $20 what a rip-off!

there are a lot of beautiful women here, some look like native Russians from the Soviet period, and some are very exotic looking with big brown eyes and curvy bods, a lotta big bosomed girls here in tight sweaters

I honestly, don’t pay all that much attention to women now
because my libido is smaller than a mosquito’s...
due to all the EXTREME craziness I've been witness to in the past two years...

[ML]

I honestly, don’t pay all that much attention to women now because my libido is smaller than a mosquito’s... due to all the EXTREME craziness I've been witness to in the past two years...

Don't you think it's due to age ?

Most all of my male friends around my age have given up on sex.

Unfortunately, I am still cursed.