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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1275 on: April 23, 2022, 05:24:04 PM »
Thanks for the update Krimster.
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1276 on: April 23, 2022, 06:51:54 PM »
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« Reply #1277 on: April 24, 2022, 07:32:28 AM »
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1278 on: April 24, 2022, 07:43:08 AM »
KaPootin launched cruise missiles on a residential district of Odessa, killing 8 civilians including a baby, then went to church in Moscow to celebrate Easter

http://twitter.com/i/status/1517975685607870464

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Ireland update
« Reply #1279 on: April 27, 2022, 12:25:36 PM »
The wife of my wife's close relative in Ireland was just hired by a local school board to teach Ukrainian students who have relocated to  Ireland.

She was a math teacher in Ukraine for 10+ years before moving to Ireland.
But she had been wasting her talent for 11 or so years in Ireland working as a low level manager in hotel industry.
I had been suggesting to her for years that she see what was required to get certified to teach in Ireland, but she never followed up.
Now this opportunity just 'dropped in her lap' due to the influx of Ukrainians and her fluency in English, Ukrainian and Russian.
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1280 on: April 28, 2022, 04:08:12 AM »
As of Monday 25th April,27100 Ukrainian Refugees/Asylum seekers have now arrived in the UK. :)
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1281 on: April 28, 2022, 05:29:41 AM »
My MiL has got her permission to enter the UK. A relatively painless process.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1282 on: April 28, 2022, 06:32:35 AM »
I suspect many of the hold-ups some people have been whining about are background checks..especially if the refugees are from the Donbas region


Our Government quite rightly has to check to see whether they are pro-Putinists,which could make them potential saboteurs, or not.


I was watching an elderly couple in Ukraine on CNN,who'd lost their home in the Donbas after the Russians bombed it ,and they were ranting at the journalist that it was all the USA's fault and that Putin only wanted peace.


The Ukrainian bloke who'd rescued them and got them to a place of safety had to tell them "stop with that BS ".


Who'd want people like them here ?


Many a mistake is made in  haste.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 06:35:29 AM by Chelseaboy »
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1283 on: April 28, 2022, 07:40:29 AM »

Our Government quite rightly has to check to see whether they are pro-Putinists,which could make them potential saboteurs, or not.


And how would that be accomplished?  Is gov.uk hiring mind readers nowadays?

I know more than a dozen here that had to leave UA. None were quizzed regarding their political ideology.

A fool's errand.


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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1284 on: April 28, 2022, 08:44:01 AM »
And how would that be accomplished?  Is gov.uk hiring mind readers nowadays?

I know more than a dozen here that had to leave UA. None were quizzed regarding their political ideology.

A fool's errand.
Exactly. It’s an online form. No interrogation at any point.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1285 on: April 28, 2022, 08:50:43 AM »
As of Monday 25th April,27100 Ukrainian Refugees/Asylum seekers have now arrived in the UK. :)

Over 100,000 are now in Italy.

After the Chornobyl accident, Italy regularly invited UA children to come here each summer to relax and detoxify.  They lived with normal Italian host families.  Some have returned and are staying with the very same families that hosted them back then, all grown up now with their own kids.

25th April was Italian Independence Day with official ceremonies in the town square.  All UA folks in town were invited to participate and join upfront with the officials, sing the UA national anthem, and say a few words.  Kids were given small welcome gifts and the UA folks chipped in and gave the town a basket of sunflowers.  The war in UA was condemned by all the official speakers, local and regional government officials, consuls from Morocco, Greece, Ukraine, and representatives of Catholic, Jewish and Islamic faiths.  After the ceremonies, the mayor invited the UA families and their hosts to the best pizzeria in town for dinner.  It was a nice day and evening.


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Western countries should screen those that want to come in from Ukraine
« Reply #1286 on: April 28, 2022, 09:08:46 AM »
Quote from: Chelseaboy on Today at 08:32:35 AM

Our Government quite rightly has to check to see whether they are pro-Putinists,which could make them potential saboteurs, or not.

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And how would that be accomplished?  Is gov.uk hiring mind readers nowadays?

I know more than a dozen here that had to leave UA. None were quizzed regarding their political ideology.

A fool's errand.

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BC I disagree with you on this issue.

Each country taking in refugees from any country have the right (and the obligation) to try to determine the leanings of the individual refugees regarding important matters.

It's never dependent on 'mind reading' but rather on standard question and answer procedures.  Sure there can be lies, but any screening is better than none.

In the situation given earlier, if someone is ranting about it being the fault of USA and Putin only wants peace . . . then put those folks in a group that will be sent to the east rather than to the west.

I posted earlier how a wealthy Ukrainian woman was complaining about the place she was given to live for free in Ireland.  If I were in charge, I would put her on the first plane back to Ukraine.
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1287 on: April 28, 2022, 09:23:55 AM »
ML,

In Italy, immigrants are granted the exact same constitutional rights as citizens (with the exception of voting), including the right to freedom of expression.  You may find it is the same in many countries. I highly doubt a UA citizen granted even temporary immigration status could be deported for expressing support of Putin and Russia's war.

Doing as you describe seems more like something one would expect Russia to do. We don't need to fear as Putin does. We're stronger than that or?

The folks you describe could face deportation if they break the laws of their host country.  I have no objection to such.


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« Reply #1288 on: April 28, 2022, 09:26:21 AM »
ML,

In Italy, immigrants are granted the exact same constitutional rights as citizens (with the exception of voting), including the right to freedom of expression.  You may find it is the same in many countries. I highly doubt a UA citizen granted even temporary immigration status could be deported for expressing support of Putin and Russia's war.

Doing as you describe seems more like something one would expect Russia to do. We don't need to fear as Putin does. We're stronger than that or?

The folks you describe could face deportation if they break the laws of their host country.  I have no objection to such.

Things will be different when I am in charge !!  :-)
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1289 on: April 28, 2022, 09:32:55 AM »
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« Reply #1290 on: April 28, 2022, 09:33:51 AM »
Grandkids of Loretta and Conway perform famous songs.

'Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man'.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1291 on: April 28, 2022, 10:04:37 AM »
Exactly. It’s an online form. No interrogation at any point.


The UK Government has actually said they're screening applicants before allowing them into the UK...particularly as Putler has said he's targeting London because of the UK's strong support for Ukraine.


He considers us as the ringleader in galvanizing the rest of Europe against Russia...with Johnson,Truss,Wallace and other members of our Cabinet all now banned from Russia.


They don't need to interrogate..there are more discreet ways of finding out ..such as being in touch with the Ukraine Government and asking questions about certain applicants for them to investigate their family history,ethnic background..any criminal record,anti-west/pro-Russian leanings etc.


By the way the forms needed to be filled out by potential Ukrainian refugees to the UK are far more exhaustive for people coming here with no family already here..it's taking many weeks to find out if they'll be allowed in or not...purely because of the checks.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 10:09:33 AM by Chelseaboy »
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1292 on: April 28, 2022, 10:11:44 AM »

The UK Government has actually said they're screening applicants before allowing them into the UK...particularly as Putler has said he's targeting London because of the UK's strong support for Ukraine.


He considers us as the ringleader in galvanizing the rest of Europe against Russia...with Johnson,Truss,Wallace and other members of our Cabinet all now banned from Russia.


They don't need to interrogate..there are more discreet ways of finding out ..such as being in touch with the Ukraine Government and asking questions about certain applicants for them to investigate their family history,ethnic background..any criminal record,anti-west/pro-Russian leanings etc.

No, that doesn’t happen. And do you really think that the UKR govt would be devoting time and valuable resources doing that.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1293 on: April 28, 2022, 10:15:22 AM »
And how would that be accomplished?  Is gov.uk hiring mind readers nowadays?

I know more than a dozen here that had to leave UA. None were quizzed regarding their political ideology.

A fool's errand.


Well to be fair Italy has done very little in supplying lethal weapons to Ukraine ..you've mainly stood on the sidelines compared to the UK,so i doubt Putler is going to send saboteurs there,so the checks are not needed in comparison.
Just saying it like it is.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1294 on: April 28, 2022, 10:23:13 AM »
No, that doesn’t happen. And do you really think that the UKR govt would be devoting time and valuable resources doing that.


Of course they would..they wouldn't want the stigma of any of their people attacking the UK from within and therefore potentially losing our support because they couldn't be arsed doing the necessary checks for potential terrorists.


Imagine the outcry if Johnson or any other members of the Cabinet were assassinated by a Putin supporter from Ukraine.


Putin and his cronies would be in their element "See we warned the west that Ukraine is full of Nazi's..now you know why we need to exterminate them "


The USA and UK are Ukraine's biggest supporters in this war with lethal aid...you think they'd risk losing that ?


Damn right they'd do the checks if asked.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 10:32:25 AM by Chelseaboy »
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1295 on: April 28, 2022, 10:43:12 AM »
Chelseaboy,

the same checks are being done that apply to any immigrant.


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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1296 on: April 28, 2022, 10:51:02 AM »
Chelseaboy,

the same checks are being done that apply to any immigrant.


You have no idea what checks are being done on Ukrainian refugees entering the UK.


The FACT's are that the media,the potential hosts who are providing accomodation and the opposition parties have   ALL been complaining about the unusual length of time it's taking for Ukrainians  being allowed into the UK.


5-6 weeks after the forms had been completed the visa's still hadn't been issued..why do you think that is ?
« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 10:56:10 AM by Chelseaboy »
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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1297 on: April 28, 2022, 11:09:18 AM »
Well to be fair Italy has done very little in supplying lethal weapons to Ukraine ..you've mainly stood on the sidelines compared to the UK,so i doubt Putler is going to send saboteurs there,so the checks are not needed in comparison.

Grasping at straws using the common straw man argument?

I haven't kept track of who is sending what.  There is a list on Wiki but I don't know how accurate it is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War


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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1298 on: April 28, 2022, 11:21:31 AM »

Of course they would..they wouldn't want the stigma of any of their people attacking the UK from within and therefore potentially losing our support because they couldn't be arsed doing the necessary checks for potential terrorists.


Imagine the outcry if Johnson or any other members of the Cabinet were assassinated by a Putin supporter from Ukraine.


Putin and his cronies would be in their element "See we warned the west that Ukraine is full of Nazi's..now you know why we need to exterminate them "


The USA and UK are Ukraine's biggest supporters in this war with lethal aid...you think they'd risk losing that ?


Damn right they'd do the checks if asked.
Nope. Doesn’t work like that.

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Re: Four Year Wonders Got Married: Ochka and ML
« Reply #1299 on: April 28, 2022, 11:22:06 AM »
Chelseaboy,

the same checks are being done that apply to any immigrant.

Exactly.

 

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