Russian Women Discussion
RWD Discussion Groups => Starting Out => Topic started by: DCcowboy on January 06, 2020, 10:22:21 AM
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Anybody been to Altai Krai? I recently meet a lady from this area. If things work by the end of the month I want to visit her in February / March time frame.
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You are trolling us, right?
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Anybody been to Altai Krai?
Turboguy met his wife VWRW in Barnaul which is the biggest city in that region. They sometimes stop by and post but you can message them directly from their profiles below and ask them to participate in this thread with what they know of the region.
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=profile;u=54
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1474
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You are trolling us, right?
Don't get anywhere by not trying! Do you just expect me to stop trying.
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Turboguy met his wife VWRW in Barnaul which is the biggest city in that region. They sometimes stop by and post but you can message them directly from their profiles below and ask them to participate in this thread with what they know of the region.
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=profile;u=54
http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1474
Perfect information, thank you! I will message them.
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There is trying and then there is whatever this is.
Forgive me if I am not current with your situation, but from what I recall you have not travelled to Russia, correct? Nor to Ukraine?
1. Winter is about the worse time to go to Russia, especially to a small city or town.
2. Provided you have verified this woman is genuine (not from ppl, not from unsolicited email), going WOVO to such a remote place is unwise. What are your plans if things don't work out? The chances of finding someone else on fdating or dmnotify or russiancupid in that area will be extremely slim.
3. What happened with your employment situation, where you could not travel to Russia?
4. Why Altai Krai, or other similar remote places? Why not start with Moscow, St Petersburg or Kyiv?
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There is trying and then there is whatever this is.
Forgive me if I am not current with your situation, but from what I recall you have not travelled to Russia, correct? Nor to Ukraine?
1. Winter is about the worse time to go to Russia, especially to a small city or town.
2. Provided you have verified this woman is genuine (not from ppl, not from unsolicited email), going WOVO to such a remote place is unwise. What are your plans if things don't work out? The chances of finding someone else on fdating or dmnotify or russiancupid in that area will be extremely slim.
3. What happened with your employment situation, where you could not travel to Russia?
4. Why Altai Krai, or other similar remote places? Why not start with Moscow, St Petersburg or Kyiv?
1. No have not traveled to FSU
2. Not to concerned about winter
3. If things don't work out, at least I tried. It will be good experience.
4. I meet her through EM, and have been able to verify certain aspects of her life.
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4. I meet her through EM, and have been able to verify certain aspects of her life.
The most important thing now is to verify if she has a genuine interest in you. Call her often. Viber, Skype or whatever. Get a read if she's thrilled everytime you contact her. She and you may be initially thrilled but eventually learn you're incompatible or become bored with each other. If communications remain great, then plan a visit. Some guys recommend to just jump on a plane. For who? Do your homework and get to know the girl you want to visit before visiting.
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The most important thing now is to verify if she has a genuine interest in you. Call her often. Viber, Skype or whatever. Get a read if she's thrilled everytime you contact her. She and you may be initially thrilled but eventually learn you're incompatible or become bored with each other. If communications remain great, then plan a visit. Some guys recommend to just jump on a plane. For who? Do your homework and get to know the girl you want to visit before visiting.
But be aware that people (both men and women) are often terrible at certain forms of communication, even as they are good with other forms.
So how you perceive her interest in you from communications may not always be correct.
I like to type messages and don't like to talk on phone . . . except with long lost friends from school days, etc. as there is so much shared history and catching up to do.
However wife is very bad at messaging and irritated me quite a lot when we were apart and planning to get together. But she would talk for hours on phone. She still does this (now Skype and Viber) with her family and friends in Ukraine and elsewhere. And she wants me to read and answer all her emails that are school and business related, and even those to her family and friends.
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But be aware that people (both men and women) are often terrible at certain forms of communication, even as they are good with other forms.
I've spoke to a lot of women on the phone. Some spoke good English but I felt the conversation didn't go well for whatever reason. I've spoke to some women with very bad English and things felt clumsy and I didn't want to call again but there were a few women with very bad English and although we didn't have the ability to communicate, I felt good about them in the end. Some of them girls tried hard to communicate, giggled a lot and I felt they enjoyed hearing my voice and had a genuine interest in me. Regardless of the level of communication DCowboy has with this woman, hopefully they feel good about each other each time they talk to each other. If communication is bad now, it probably will be bad in a face to face meeting and not worth planning an expensive first date.
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If communication is bad now, it probably will be bad in a face to face meeting and not worth planning an expensive first date.
I disagree, normally communication is easier in person, even with some with poor English skills. Hand movements, facial expressions, hand translator.... Help also.
Now if little chemistry or little interest, it will go nowhere.
Cowboy didn't mention girl's English level.
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normally communication is easier in person,
It's possible but is it worth gambling $5000 and a weeks worth of vacation time to find out? It's a safer bet to visit the girl one has great communication with. More likely the communication in person is better too.
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Anybody been to Altai Krai? I recently meet a lady from this area. If things work by the end of the month I want to visit her in February / March time frame.
Ask Vladimir Putin, he liked to spend his vacations there. ;D
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It's possible but is it worth gambling $5000 and a weeks worth of vacation time to find out? It's a safer bet to visit the girl one has great communication with. More likely the communication in person is better too.
I agree, lot of money for a first date which goes nowhere.
I was answering about........ bad communication before= bad communication in person. I don' see it.
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bad communication before= bad communication in person. I don' see it.
I agree with you. I would never tell someone bad communication before equates to bad communication in person. Probably would happen but not definitely.
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BillyB 'spoke on the phone'...shows how long ago he was seeking a bride..
This is the 3rd decade of the 21st C...
Who talks on a phone when videochat is possible on the cheapest smart phone?
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Most men who go to the FSU never speak to the women prior to the visit. They keep it in the message system/email intentionally or forced to do so by the agency they're using.
Video chat usually happen by appointments and speaker must be on. Calling on the phone I got women picking up during various times and can get a read on their activities and life. Sometimes they'll pick up while walking with friends. One girl picked up while in a club. Some pick up at work. Some pick up while taking a bath. Although girls pick up while busy, I offer to call back later. Most of the time they don't want to let me go.
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The BillyB 'expert' guide to FSU dating 'survey' ?
Most men who go to the FSU never speak to the women prior to the visit. They keep it in the message system/email intentionally or forced to do so by the agency they're using.
You sound like another 'authoritative researcher' of Brides of the FSU .. :D
Do reveal the methodology you used to arrive at such a conclusion..
Video chat usually happen by appointments and speaker must be on. Calling on the phone I got women picking up during various times and can get a read on their activities and life. Sometimes they'll pick up while walking with friends. One girl picked up while in a club. Some pick up at work. Some pick up while taking a bath. Although girls pick up while busy, I offer to call back later. Most of the time they don't want to let me go.
Tosh..
As far back as 16 years ago I had FSU W call on me on Skype at random times - a deliberate policy to see if I was my own boss, not living with another woman and serious in my search
Nowadays, the call can be voice only and one party will request video
Your 'response' just further emphasises that 'your way' - the way you think others may be doing it ... is WAY out of date ...
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Well, back to Ms. Altai Krai, she said she wants to do a Skype call. Sounds positive. She is also in her mid forties, and absolutely beautiful, I mean gorgeous.
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she wants to do a Skype call. Sounds positive.
Good sign. She seems interested in you enough to request taking communications to the next level. In case she wants video chat, shave and clean up the man cave. She'll be observing the background to get an idea how you keep your place. Don't buy flowers. She may think someone else decorated the place.
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I disagree, normally communication is easier in person, even with some with poor English skills. Hand movements, facial expressions, hand translator.... Help also.
Now if little chemistry or little interest, it will go nowhere.
Cowboy didn't mention girl's English level.
English is moderate. She took English classes several years ago.
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Anybody been to Altai Krai? I recently meet a lady from this area. If things work by the end of the month I want to visit her in February / March time frame.
Never been to Barnaul but plenty to Novosibirsk and East Kazakhstan oblasts (to the north and south). Don't go in February, there's still a risk of cold snaps where it drops to -30 celsius for a week. March should be ok, April is better because you can hang out at Grelka!
If you have the time fly via Moscow to Barnaul, then take an overnight train to Novosibirsk. A couple of days there before a couple of days in Moscow on the way home. Two weeks would be more than enough to do this. If you only have one week then still spend a few nights in Moscow.
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Never been to Barnaul but plenty to Novosibirsk and East Kazakhstan oblasts (to the north and south). Don't go in February, there's still a risk of cold snaps where it drops to -30 celsius for a week.
I respectfully disagree.
I went to Russia in January, it was -40F (-40C it's the same) in North
Dakota. Thank the good lord I was in Banana Belt Russia for that.
I advise guys to go. Imagine he meets her in January and he doesn't
like her or she doesn't like him. He doesn't waste another month of
his life waiting until the weather is good, when he could have moved
on already.
OR if he goes there in January and they hit it off, then he doesn't
have to worry about somebody like me flying there and sweeping
her off her feet, while he is sitting at home waiting for good weather
and he is that much closer to living the dream.
In my view, if it's warm enough for a 100lb (45KG) Sexy Russian
woman to live there, then it's warm enough for a man to go see
her.
FSUW LOVE a man of action. Get on a plane, seduce her and win
her heart!
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I respectfully disagree.
I went to Russia in January, it was -40F (-40C it's the same) in North
Dakota. Thank the good lord I was in Banana Belt Russia for that.
I advise guys to go. Imagine he meets her in January and he doesn't
like her or she doesn't like him. He doesn't waste another month of
his life waiting until the weather is good, when he could have moved
on already.
OR if he goes there in January and they hit it off, then he doesn't
have to worry about somebody like me flying there and sweeping
her off her feet, while he is sitting at home waiting for good weather
and he is that much closer to living the dream.
In my view, if it's warm enough for a 100lb (45KG) Sexy Russian
woman to live there, then it's warm enough for a man to go see
her.
FSUW LOVE a man of action. Get on a plane, seduce her and win
her heart!
I see rwd123 AND beel's point of view and get both ..
Personally, I have never been in the north / east of USA in winter - more of a snow-goose and the first time I encountered -25C or lower was when I stood at the exit of a plane at Krasnoyarsk airport - wearing a pair of 'combat' trousers and felt I was naked - as the wind took away any semblance of body heat
It's not terribly sexy meeting one's 45Kg future wife when you are shaking with cold - one had to collect one's luggage from a tiny shed - before being allowed into the heated terminal building and I didn't understand the made dash to get off the plane - so was last in the queue to prove my luggage was mine !
It's also not sexy having to wear multiple layers of clothes and viewing only the eyes and noses of passing strangers and wondering if one's own nose will fall off..
But.. - OH.. the moment one re-enters the apartment and can ( mutually) disrobe...
Has to be experienced at least once
... MANY Siberian lasses don't get visits simply because guys doing VM trips miss them out ... SUCKERS ..
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Coldest weather I have been in is 15f. But I still am visiting in late February early March. The disrobing sounds fun. ;)
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Coldest weather I have been in is 15f. But I still am visiting in late February early March. The disrobing sounds fun. ;)
Where I live, people go out in sweaters at 15F. At -1C, it's common to see people in t-shirts and shorts here.
Yesterday, it was -38C here, -45C with a windchill. Our son walked home from university in this weather, and has shovelled the walks a couple of times, so it's just a matter of being used to it and dressing appropriately.
What you need to do is buy gloves or mittens with thinsulate, wear a wool toque (hat), and boots with thinsulate. Take a coat you'd wear in winter where you are and lots of fleecies/sweaters to add if it's cold. It's usually not your body, but the extremities that need to stay warm. Further, it's not the cold, but the wind that will make you suffer in cold weather. I can easily walk for an hour in -20C weather if there's no wind.
This post was composed without the aid of google.
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Where I live, people go out in sweaters at 15F. At -1C, it's common to see people in t-shirts and shorts here.
Yesterday, it was -38C here, -45C with a windchill. Our son walked home from university in this weather, and has shovelled the walks a couple of times, so it's just a matter of being used to it and dressing appropriately.
What you need to do is buy gloves or mittens with thinsulate, wear a wool toque (hat), and boots with thinsulate. Take a coat you'd wear in winter where you are and lots of fleecies/sweaters to add if it's cold. It's usually not your body, but the extremities that need to stay warm. Further, it's not the cold, but the wind that will make you suffer in cold weather. I can easily walk for an hour in -20C weather if there's no wind.
This post was composed without the aid of google.
Mean while I was welding in +45 c in a leather jacket a few weeks ago and shivering in +10 c during winter fully clothed 😆
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I was welding in +45 c in a leather jacket a few weeks ago
I think I know who started the fire. ;)
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Just a question. Had a thought this morning, she has two daughters which I am fine with. But one would be considered a adult in the US, 18+, how does the immigration work for the adult daughter. Especially since she lives at home, and the lady has indicated that she would want her to come with her to the US.
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How old is the daughter? A fiance visa allows unmarried children up to the age of 21. But, the child needs to enter the US before she turns 21. So, with a 6-9 month fiance visa process, you'll need to decide to marry each other and file the paperwork shortly within the daughter's 20th birthday.
You cannot do the spouse visa - marry her there or somewhere else overseas and apply for a CR-1/IR-1 visa. Because that requires you to be married before the daughter turns 18, and then bring her to the US before she turns 21.
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How old is the daughter?
She turns 20 this year.
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She turns 20 this year.
My Best Advice? Marry the Daughter
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Never been to Barnaul but plenty to Novosibirsk and East Kazakhstan oblasts (to the north and south). Don't go in February, there's still a risk of cold snaps where it drops to -30 celsius for a week. March should be ok, April is better because you can hang out at Grelka!
If you have the time fly via Moscow to Barnaul, then take an overnight train to Novosibirsk. A couple of days there before a couple of days in Moscow on the way home. Two weeks would be more than enough to do this. If you only have one week then still spend a few nights in Moscow.
My first trip was in the dead of winter to the Urals. I went because few if any men would be competing to see the same women. OH WOW WAS IT COLD, but I had the undivided attention of the ladies I had arranged to see through the agency.
to add some dark comedy- My plane lands and with the driver is a young lady in beautiful Fur Coat. I was all excited, couldn't wait to see which lady the agency sent to welcome me. As I got closer, Im like...huh, this lady is shorter and wider than any lady I arranged to meet. It was the agency owners daughter. It took me forever to leave after getting to my apartment
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She turns 20 this year.
If you start the visa process a year before she turns 21, you should be fine. If for some reason things take longer before you decide on marriage and she'll turn 21 before she'll arrive to America, the other option is mother getting US citizenship and later sponsoring her. Could be a 5 year or longer process.
My Best Advice? Marry the Daughter
I dated one Ukrainian lady in the States. On one date she told me she wished her daughter was with her in America. On another date, she asked if I would consider marrying her daughter. She loved her daughter so much that she'd share her man with her daughter so they can reunite and we'd all be one big happy family.
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. . . the other option is mother getting US citizenship and later sponsoring her. Could be a 5 year or longer process.
Currently there is an 11 waiting period to bring an aged out child to USA.
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Thank you for the responses. I will need to communicate this to the lady.
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Here's some info in the below link. She may be able to sponsor the over 21 daughter with a green card instead of waiting for citizenship which would take 5 years.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/filling-out-form-i-130-adult-son-daughter-over-21-us-permanent-resident.html
Another option is get the daughter a tourist visa which is hard to do but if she comes to America on a tourist visa, the mother can begin the paperwork in America and she can legally overstay her tourist visa and quickly get a green card.
Another option is to fall in love quickly, be a hero, and wife will love you long time.
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I'm wondering what makes people to post wrong info while the official source is available http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2020/visa-bulletin-for-january-2020.html
Btw, maybe daughter will not want to relocate to the US. After almost 6 years I think that my daughter made the right decision about staying in Russia and having her own life. She is working on her PHD in bio without any student loans.
BillyB, I think that bringing daughter on B1/B2 visa is not a good idea. I doubt it will be possible to legally overstay for that type of visa for adult children. The only way to bring them both is to hurry up, marry mother and send all paperwork to USCIS before daughter's 21.
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The only way to bring them both is to hurry up, marry mother and send all paperwork to USCIS before daughter's 21.
That is best option for the daughter but they haven't even met face to face yet. DCcowboy needs to make sure he's in love with the woman after meeting her. He may need multiple visits to make a decision on marriage. Time may run out. DCcowboy should consider the best option for the daughter but he shouldn't let it pressure him into marrying the mother.
BillyB, I think that bringing daughter on B1/B2 visa is not a good idea. I doubt it will be possible to legally overstay for that type of visa for adult children.
Getting a tourist or any visa to America is difficult but if the daughter is over 21 and she gets a visa to come, she can legally overstay the visa with an AOS(Adjustment of Status). Her mom must be qualified to begin the process. Once the AOS process has begun, a person can legally overstay their visa. The process is long and almost always, people will be overstaying their visa but they won't get deported if authorities check their documents. My wife became an American citizen and did this for her mother while she was here on a tourist visa. Mother now has a green card. I learned this option from others who successfully completed the AOS process themselves.
Here's some information on it. If your daughter ever changes her mind and wants to live here, and if she qualifies for any kind of visa, the fastest way for you to get her a green card is AOS. But if you begin the process, she can't leave America until the process is finished.
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/can-overstay-visa-while-waiting-green-card.html
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/what-you-need-file-i-485-adjustment-status.html
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Getting a tourist or any visa to America is difficult but if the daughter is over 21 and she gets a visa to come, she can legally overstay the visa with an AOS(Adjustment of Status). Her mom must be qualified to begin the process. Once the AOS process has begun, a person can legally overstay their visa. The process is long and almost always, people will be overstaying their visa but they won't get deported if authorities check their documents. My wife became an American citizen and did this for her mother while she was here on a tourist visa. Mother now has a green card. I learned this option from others who successfully completed the AOS process themselves.
Here's some information on it. If your daughter ever changes her mind and wants to live here, and if she qualifies for any kind of visa, the fastest way for you to get her a green card is AOS. But if you begin the process, she can't leave America until the process is finished.
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/can-overstay-visa-while-waiting-green-card.html
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/us-immigration/what-you-need-file-i-485-adjustment-status.html
"Who Is Eligible to Adjust Status Even After a Visa Overstay?
A few people can adjust status even after their visa has expired, such as those who:
entered the United States legally (after inspection by a border or other immigration official) and are applying as immediate relatives of a U.S. citizen (which means spouse, minor child, or parent if the citizen is over age 21)" <<< that means NO for daughter over 21.
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"Who Is Eligible to Adjust Status Even After a Visa Overstay?
A few people can adjust status even after their visa has expired, such as those who:
entered the United States legally (after inspection by a border or other immigration official) and are applying as immediate relatives of a U.S. citizen (which means spouse, minor child, or parent if the citizen is over age 21)" <<< that means NO for daughter over 21.
The section you quoted are people who are eligible to AOS AFTER they overstay their visa and it’s expired. More people qualify to AOS while in America legally and visa has not been overstayed. After beginning AOS process and while waiting for green card, their visa most likely will expire but they can remain in America legally.
If your daughter visits next month, you can begin the green card process right away. Our government won’t make her wait for 10 years. They speed up the process for those currently in America so they can get a job and be productive.
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The section you quoted are people who are eligible to AOS AFTER they overstay their visa and it’s expired. More people qualify to AOS while in America legally and visa has not been overstayed. After beginning AOS process and while waiting for green card, their visa most likely will expire but they can remain in America legally.
If your daughter visits next month, you can begin the green card process right away. Our government won’t make her wait for 10 years. They speed up the process for those currently in America so they can get a job and be productive.
You are proposing immigration fraud. Using a non immigration visa with the intent to immigrate.
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Here's some info in the below link. She may be able to sponsor the over 21 daughter with a green card instead of waiting for citizenship which would take 5 years.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/filling-out-form-i-130-adult-son-daughter-over-21-us-permanent-resident.html
Billy, you are misreading this.
The process you mention just puts the son/daughter in the queue, and the queue is 11 years long.
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...Getting a tourist or any visa to America is difficult but if the daughter is over 21 and she gets a visa to come, she can legally overstay the visa with an AOS(Adjustment of Status). Her mom must be qualified to begin the process. Once the AOS process has begun, a person can legally overstay their visa. The process is long and almost always, people will be overstaying their visa but they won't get deported if authorities check their documents. My wife became an American citizen and did this for her mother while she was here on a tourist visa. Mother now has a green card. I learned this option from others who successfully completed the AOS process themselves.,,,
I've seen, and knew of, US citizen petitioning their *visiting* parent/s for green cards while they are *legally inside the US*, but not when they already violated the permitted period. They can lawfully remain inside the US only and as long as the petition is filed, not after.
This applies to immediate families only, though not certain if the beneficiary is/are child/children that are 21 and over. Further, not sure if at this time Trump's policy to curb chain immigration/merit-based immigration have impacted any of this.
Best consult a *qualified* counsel.
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Getting a tourist or any visa to America is difficult but if the daughter is over 21 and she gets a visa to come, she can legally overstay the visa with an AOS(Adjustment of Status). Her mom must be qualified to begin the process. Once the AOS process has begun, a person can legally overstay their visa. The process is long and almost always, people will be overstaying their visa but they won't get deported if authorities check their documents. My wife became an American citizen and did this for her mother while she was here on a tourist visa. Mother now has a green card. I learned this option from others who successfully completed the AOS process themselves.
Billy, after many years, you are still posting incorrect information on this.
Sure after your wife became citizen she did this for her mother . . . because they both met the criteria.
USA citizen can do this for those who qualify as Immediate Relative.
Immediate relative only: Spouse, minor child, parent.
Who Is Eligible to Adjust Status Even After a Visa Overstay?
Those who entered the United States legally (after inspection by a border or other immigration official) and are applying as immediate relatives of a U.S. citizen.
In the Immigration system vocabulary, immediate relatives are ONLY spouse, minor child, or parent.
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Remember before you kept telling us that your wife could do this for her mother before your wife became a citizen?
I guess you found out otherwise . . . but yet you still post other incorrect info on this . . . in this case you are saying it can be done for children over age 21 . . . which is totally false.
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I've seen, and knew of, US citizen petitioning their *visiting* parent/s for green cards while they are *legally inside the US*, but not when they already violated the permitted period. They can lawfully remain inside the US only and as long as the petition is filed, not after.
This applies to immediate families only, though not certain if the beneficiary is/are child/children that are 21 and over. Further, not sure if at this time Trump's policy to curb chain immigration/merit-based immigration have impacted any of this.
Best consult a *qualified* counsel.
Certain family members qualify for AOS while in illegal status after overstaying visa.
Billy, you are misreading this.
The process you mention just puts the son/daughter in the queue, and the queue is 11 years long.
It’s 11 years long if the process is started while the child is outside of America. If daughter is inside America, they go to the front of the line and should have their green card in less than a year. The link I provided shows questions of the form used that asks if child is currently living in or outside of America.
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Billy, after many years, you are still posting incorrect information on this.
Sure after your wife became citizen she did this for her mother . . . because they both met the criteria.
USA citizen can do this for those who qualify as Immediate Relative.
Immediate relative only: Spouse, minor child, parent.
Who Is Eligible to Adjust Status Even After a Visa Overstay?
Those who entered the United States legally (after inspection by a border or other immigration official) and are applying as immediate relatives of a U.S. citizen.
In the Immigration system vocabulary, immediate relatives are ONLY spouse, minor child, or parent.
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Remember before you kept telling us that your wife could do this for her mother before your wife became a citizen?
I guess you found out otherwise . . . but yet you still post other incorrect info on this . . . in this case you are saying it can be done for children over age 21 . . . which is totally false.
The link I provided was for a green card holder to sponsor their over 21 child living in or outside America for a green card. If you don’t believe it can be done, there are waivers available.
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You are proposing immigration fraud. Using a non immigration visa with the intent to immigrate.
There's nothing illegal about the process I just described. As a matter of fact, YOUR government allows it and if you don't like it, register your complaint with them. They understand people want to come here short term and can change their mind into staying long term so our government allowed for a process that can get them a green card without going back home.
There are many non immigrant visas a person can apply for. NONE of those visa make the applicant sign a document stating they will guarantee their return back home and will never change their mind. For a tourist visa one must prove intent to go back home. Provide evidence they have ties back home but that doesn't mean they have to go back home and YOUR government even allows them to AOS for a green card if they qualify. After reading most of the comments with people thinking it's illegal, can't be done, or is too complicated, it's a good thing. With fewer people using this option our government authorized, it's less likely to get the anti immigration crowd worked up over it. If you ever tell your honey things have to be done the hard way when it comes to sponsoring family, it's illegal, or it can't be done at all, don't show her my posts.
Whynotme, if you can get your daughter here on any kind of visa and if she wants a green card without the 11 year wait, shoot me a message. I'm living in the Seattle area the same as you if I remember correctly so I can even help with the paperwork. I've successfully got a family member a tourist visa after they were denied. I've successfully completed a waiver after a visa was denied. I also helped AOS a family member for a green card while they are on a tourist visa here in America. Everything I've done was blessed by our government. Nothing shady about it.
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From US state.gov site:
Attempting to obtain a visa by the willful misrepresentation of a material fact, or fraud, may result in the permanent refusal of a visa or denial of entry into the United States.
The person committing the visa fraud, once in the US, will not get arrested. But situations like the one you are suggesting, using a visitor visa with the intention of applying for AOS when in the US, is the reason why people from Russia and Ukraine and other countries are given a hard time getting a tourist visa.
And it's not the wisest to document the intent to commit visa fraud. Like in a forum post with detailed instructions on how to do it.
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There's nothing illegal about the process I just described. As a matter of fact, YOUR government allows it and if you don't like it, register your complaint with them. They understand people want to come here short term and can change their mind into staying long term so our government allowed for a process that can get them a green card without going back home.
There are many non immigrant visas a person can apply for. NONE of those visa make the applicant sign a document stating they will guarantee their return back home and will never change their mind. For a tourist visa one must prove intent to go back home. Provide evidence they have ties back home but that doesn't mean they have to go back home and YOUR government even allows them to AOS for a green card if they qualify. After reading most of the comments with people thinking it's illegal, can't be done, or is too complicated, it's a good thing. With fewer people using this option our government authorized, it's less likely to get the anti immigration crowd worked up over it. If you ever tell your honey things have to be done the hard way when it comes to sponsoring family, it's illegal, or it can't be done at all, don't show her my posts.
Whynotme, if you can get your daughter here on any kind of visa and if she wants a green card without the 11 year wait, shoot me a message. I'm living in the Seattle area the same as you if I remember correctly so I can even help with the paperwork. I've successfully got a family member a tourist visa after they were denied. I've successfully completed a waiver after a visa was denied. I also helped AOS a family member for a green card while they are on a tourist visa here in America. Everything I've done was blessed by our government. Nothing shady about it.
BillyB, thank you for suggestion but me or my husband never had any problems with filing papers. It may help if you are a USCIS employee 😄, but you are not I guess. My daughter spent NY holidays with us in Seattle coming on B1/B2 visa, I'm not sure she wants to move to the US. If she decides to move one day she'll have other legal options (J, H, O visas).
Btw, I posted link to bulletin 2020, where you can see real waiting time which is 6 years for unmarried children over 21 (not 11 as ML thinks).
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Best consult a *qualified* counsel.
Best advice. I gave her the option. We are not going to rush into marriage just to get her daughter over here. We still aren't even sure we love each other. About all we have is mutual interest at this point. We will figure it out when/if we get to that point. I might visit and we have no chemistry. So we will see.
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I just stopped in for the first time in a long time and noticed this post. Barnaul is getting easier to get to but it is a long flight from Moscow. It used to be that there was only one or two flights a day but that has grown which makes it easier. Barnaul has a population of about 800,000 so it isn't a speck on the wall. I am not sure how far the city you are talking about is from Barnaul but if you do decide to go and it turns out to be a bust there was and may still be a pretty good agency in Barnaul you could use as a back up plan. The name was Russian Pearls. It may or may not still be in business.
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Hello stranger !
http://www.facebook.com/pg/Russian-Pearls-Marriage-Agency-116898138330374/about/?ref=page_internal (http://www.facebook.com/pg/Russian-Pearls-Marriage-Agency-116898138330374/about/?ref=page_internal)
Ray - good to see you
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Thanks Moby, It had been a while. Nice to see the forum is still going strong. I see a lot of familiar faces still here. I will try to not be absent as much.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIz039T8aE4
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Never been to Barnaul but plenty to Novosibirsk ....
I almost did years ago. Ladies there seem professional/career and to age well.
http://www.cuteonly.com/russia/Novosibirsk.html