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« Reply #3200 on: May 18, 2015, 07:57:24 PM »
Obviously not a good weekend for the midget president.
First his side got humiliated by the Canadians in hockey, then 2 of his troops got captured alive and couldn't keep their mouth shut.
Hope he finds consolation in scoring those 8 magnificent goals.
 :ROFL:


He's got much bigger things to worry about than some stupid hockey game. Being a Detroit Lions fan I understand the situation completely. It is soon forgotten.
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« Reply #3201 on: May 18, 2015, 08:06:52 PM »

He's got much bigger things to worry about than some stupid hockey game.

Yet Adolph Hitler, despite being busy planning the gobbling up of Europe, was reportedly quite annoyed that Jesse Owens beat so many German track and field athletes at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. Dictators often tend to place great store in their countries' athletes beating the athletes of competing countries. Like Putin at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics.




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« Reply #3202 on: May 18, 2015, 08:12:44 PM »
Yet Adolph Hitler, despite being busy planning the gobbling up of Europe, was reportedly quite annoyed that Jesse Owens beat so many German track and field athletes at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. Dictators often tend to place great store in their countries' athletes beating the athletes of competing countries. Like Putin at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics.


Hitler was a special case and sports is great PR but when it doesn't go according to plan then lets forget about it.
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« Reply #3203 on: May 18, 2015, 08:15:00 PM »

Hitler was a special case and sports is great PR but when it doesn't go according to plan then lets forget about it.

Putin is not a special case? 

In the absence of elections and other true sources of power, prestige goes a long way to these kind of people.

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« Reply #3204 on: May 18, 2015, 08:37:01 PM »
Putin is not a special case? 

In the absence of elections and other true sources of power, prestige goes a long way to these kind of people.


Nope. When you lose a game it's best to forget about it. Move on.
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« Reply #3205 on: May 19, 2015, 06:28:42 AM »

Nope. When you lose a game it's best to forget about it. Move on.


Tell that to Putler. Maybe he'll feel a bit better.  ;)
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« Reply #3206 on: May 19, 2015, 06:41:12 AM »

Tell that to Putler. Maybe he'll feel a bit better.  ;)

Bingo

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« Reply #3207 on: May 19, 2015, 09:17:03 PM »
Apparently some unscrupulous people fired a mortar round into the Russian embassy in Syria...

http://news.yahoo.com/un-condemns-terrorist-attack-russian-embassy-syria-222639620.html

The irony is the mortar rounds used are probably originally manufactured in Putinland.  :popcorn:

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« Reply #3208 on: May 20, 2015, 02:22:35 PM »
Apparently some unscrupulous people fired a mortar round into the Russian embassy in Syria...

http://news.yahoo.com/un-condemns-terrorist-attack-russian-embassy-syria-222639620.html

The irony is the mortar rounds used are probably originally manufactured in Putinland.  :popcorn:

 Poetic Justice!  :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

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« Reply #3209 on: May 22, 2015, 02:01:42 AM »
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/news/article/russian-soldiers-captured-in-ukraine-feel-abandoned-by-moscow/522022.html

What a tear jerker!   Perhaps someone should inform them that their glorious comrade leader Putin claims that they are not there in the first place.  They should also be asked why they 'volunteered'  to fight for a military that invaded a sovereign, internationally recognized, nation.

Somehow, I expect Ukraine will allow these soldiers to eventually be accepted by Ukraine to assist in bringing Putin to the Hague for war crimes.

 

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« Reply #3210 on: May 22, 2015, 06:31:21 PM »
A popular item at my house!

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« Reply #3211 on: May 22, 2015, 06:54:30 PM »
What a tear jerker!

poor choice of words old boy

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« Reply #3213 on: May 23, 2015, 11:53:51 PM »
A popular item at my house!

Mike,  Do you have any connections that I can contact for purchase of a few cases of this toilet paper?  It should sell well in the USA.


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« Reply #3214 on: May 24, 2015, 12:36:57 AM »
The Mendeleyev Journal. http://mendeleyevjournal.com Member: Congress of Russian Journalists; ЖУРНАЛИСТЫ.RU (Journalist-Russia); ЖУРНАЛИСТЫ.UA (Journalist-Ukraine); ЖУРНАЛИСТЫ.KZ (Journalist-Kazakhstan); ПОРТАЛ ЖУРНАЛИСТОВ (Portal of RU-UA Journalists); Просто Журналисты ("Just Journalists").

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« Reply #3215 on: May 24, 2015, 01:32:22 AM »
Good video, thanks for posting.

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« Reply #3216 on: May 24, 2015, 03:04:27 AM »
Good video, thanks for posting.
Agreed.btw it is only about 28 mins and then repeats.
While it is a little dated on a few points--the big picture key points are raised--and the comments about
Putins mindset from those with inside understanding of him are the key to understanding what has and is really happening.
Some on the forums want to ignore this--and rationalise Putin and Russia's behaviour.

Right from the start I have advocated meeting this Russian threat with maximum force--it is the ONLY thing Putin will understand-- and the only way to start the process in Russia to get rid of Putin is to cause humiliation of the Russian armed invasion forces .

Sanctions are an inconvenience-as is the economy in a shambles- and not enough to create the drastic change in mindset needed in Russia itself to create the climate for change.
To continue doing nothing-- and appeasing Putin only serves to allow him to believe he holds all the aces in his gamble.

That mindset must be changed.

The world cannot desert Ukraine-or sell it down the drain( which is what I see happening politically now)--it is only going to make a much larger and maybe uncontrollable crisis later.


Moscow analyst: West caving in on Crimea, but Kyiv can get it back

"The West appears to have accepted the deal Vladimir Putin has been offering the last month, agreeing not to challenge Russia’s annexation of Crimea de facto in exchange for the Kremlin leader’s declaration that he will recognize the territorial integrity of the rest of Ukraine and not expand his campaign against Kyiv, according to Andrey Piontkovsky."
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/05/23/moscow-analyst-west-caving-in-on-crimea-but-kyiv-can-get-it-back/
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
Слава Украине! Слава героям слава!Слава Україні! Слава героям!
 translated as: Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!!!  is a Ukrainian greeting slogan being used now all over Ukraine to signify support for a free independent Ukraine

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« Reply #3217 on: May 24, 2015, 03:10:57 AM »
Meanwhile--it is getting harder for Putin to keep the lid on in Russia itself-

The Hasty Withdrawal of Russian Special Forces from Luhansk Linked to the Threat of Rebellion, According to the Source Close to the 3rd Spetsnaz Brigade

The details of failure, or

 

Upon arrival at home base, the troops returning from the “Ukrainian assignment” were quartered in separate barracks. Almost all cell phones and other electronic gadgets were taken from them. All attempts were taken to isolate them and prevent any contact with their comrades, family, and friends. On the same day, a group of representatives from the Russian Defense Ministry and people in plain clothes arrived in Tolyatti.

 

A wave of discontent and indignation arose among enlisted personnel and junior commissioned officers due to the fact that the State, in particular, the command of the Defense Ministry, gave up on their comrades. The greatest outrage was provoked by a statement that the captured in Ukraine servicemen were supposedly discharged before their assignment, and a campaign to discredit them by the Russian government began, involving members of their families.

http://en.informnapalm.org/russian-special-forces-from-luhansk/
SLAVA UKRAYINI  ! HEROYAM SLAVA!!!!
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« Reply #3218 on: May 24, 2015, 11:06:39 AM »
I am sensing that those living in the East are tired and just want life to return, which it never will because such is not possible. Even if war were to stop at this moment, it will take more than one generation for the people and the area to recover without some type of "Marshall Plan" by the West.

The other option is for Putin to rebuild as he did in Chechnya. However, Putin had a reason to rebuild Chechnya--he needed to resume life in an oil producing/pipeline region, and to prop up a stooge to keep order and to prevent not only Chechnya, but other regions from declaring independence. There is no economic incentive to rebuild those areas now in rebel control, and thus it will not likely for Putin to do the rebuilding, especially in light of Russia's worsening economic condition.

There never was the outpouring for pro-Russian support as with Crimea, and only the presence of Russian troops and leadership keeps the "rebels" active. If this drags on and Putin does not make an aggressive move soon to complete his drive southward, time will play out in Kyiv's favour.

The Chinese are not stupid--they are not jumping into bed with Russia for mere economic gains, also in play are infrastructure developments to someday address the Siberian question. The Chinese have been quiet on Crimea for this reason: If Crimea can be returned to Russia, then someday a very Asian-leaning Siberia and Far East can perhaps be returned to mother China.
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« Reply #3219 on: May 24, 2015, 12:07:45 PM »

The Chinese are not stupid--they are not jumping into bed with Russia for mere economic gains, also in play are infrastructure developments to someday address the Siberian question. The Chinese have been quiet on Crimea for this reason: If Crimea can be returned to Russia, then someday a very Asian-leaning Siberia and Far East can perhaps be returned to mother China.


Bingo!
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« Reply #3220 on: May 24, 2015, 01:18:50 PM »
I am sensing that those living in the East are tired and just want life to return, which it never will because such is not possible. Even if war were to stop at this moment, it will take more than one generation for the people and the area to recover without some type of "Marshall Plan" by the West.

The other option is for Putin to rebuild as he did in Chechnya. However, Putin had a reason to rebuild Chechnya--he needed to resume life in an oil producing/pipeline region, and to prop up a stooge to keep order and to prevent not only Chechnya, but other regions from declaring independence. There is no economic incentive to rebuild those areas now in rebel control, and thus it will not likely for Putin to do the rebuilding, especially in light of Russia's worsening economic condition.

There never was the outpouring for pro-Russian support as with Crimea, and only the presence of Russian troops and leadership keeps the "rebels" active. If this drags on and Putin does not make an aggressive move soon to complete his drive southward, time will play out in Kyiv's favour.

The Chinese are not stupid--they are not jumping into bed with Russia for mere economic gains, also in play are infrastructure developments to someday address the Siberian question. The Chinese have been quiet on Crimea for this reason: If Crimea can be returned to Russia, then someday a very Asian-leaning Siberia and Far East can perhaps be returned to mother China.

Yeah, Mendy.  What the Chinese affectionately call "The Northern Resource Area".
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« Reply #3221 on: May 24, 2015, 02:27:02 PM »
I am not against a 50$ B Marshall Plan for Ukraine.  But why should we rebuild Lugansk & Donetsk?

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« Reply #3222 on: May 24, 2015, 02:42:57 PM »
I am not against a 50$ B Marshall Plan for Ukraine.  But why should we rebuild Lugansk & Donetsk?

No, absolutely not.  Putin wanted it, let him pay for it.

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« Reply #3223 on: May 24, 2015, 07:27:24 PM »
Russians' Wages Fall at Fastest Pace Since 1999

A slump in Russian consumer spending deepened in April as real wages fell at their fastest pace in 16 years, data published Friday by state statistics service Rosstat showed.

With Russia's economy contracting and price inflation running at more than 16 percent, Rosstat said Russians' real wages fell by 13.2 percent in April compared to the same month in 2014 — far exceeding the 8.3 percent decline in the first quarter of this year. This was the biggest monthly drop since 1999, which was the year immediately following a full-blown and traumatic financial collapse.

Average real incomes, which measure not only wages but other private income and state payouts such as pensions, were 4 percent lower in April than a year earlier, according to Rosstat.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/522219.html


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« Reply #3224 on: May 24, 2015, 11:49:53 PM »
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a96a491c-ffcd-11e4-bc30-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3b89MpStl

IMF predicts upturn for Russian economy after 3.4% fall this year
Courtney Weaver in Moscow

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The rouble has also rebounded in recent weeks. After weakening to as much as 80 roubles to the dollar last December, the currency has now recovered back to 50 roubles to the US dollar, and is continuing to strengthen.

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