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Title: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Johnnypt1 on November 10, 2012, 05:21:11 PM
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free.    The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow in January where she will fly to meet me there (mind you she is paying her way to meet up with me).  I want to know if anyone has suggestions how to get her in the USA as quick as possible after our initial meeting.   To complicate the situation is that she is recently divorced and her ex who is not involved with the children will probably not agree to let the children leave the country.  We will marry when she comes to me if not sooner.   We don't want to wait two years to be together.  She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back.   We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing.  Please I invite comments/suggestions.   Appreciate any help. 
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2012, 05:48:01 PM
Living in fairy land dude. Talking of marriage before your initial meeting?

Why "as quick as possible"? Desperate for a house-keeper?

Get real, let the courtship take it's course so you can learn about each other.

"come here then not go back"
and "We are both intelligent professionals" doesn't sound like you are too intelligent.


Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Johnnypt1 on November 10, 2012, 05:57:18 PM
Thanks bobcat that was helpful bro. 
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 10, 2012, 06:00:13 PM
The quickest way would prolly be flying her to Mexico (no visa needed) and then crossing the border as every one else seem to do.  8)
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 10, 2012, 06:06:23 PM
But if it was me I'd meet with her first, then meet again, spend 2 or 3 weeks together each time. If her English is fluent you might be able to figure out her personality somewhat. If not, you will figure her out after you have been living together for a year or so. Hope that she is really wonderful the way you are perceiving her now but also be ready to find out that you really misread her. How do you guys communicate?
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Johnnypt1 on November 10, 2012, 06:15:08 PM
Thanks Eduard I agree that I need to slow it down.   We communicate daily via viber, email, Skype.   She is fluent in English and we communicate very well.   
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 10, 2012, 06:20:10 PM
furthermore, not a good idea for her to come here with the kids under false pretense and then stay. First of all it's very unlikely that she'd even be able to do this. Second if she is able to pull it off somehow she may have lots of trouble getting legal residentship for them here. I don't know for sure but it would make sense that the USCIS will ask for father's permission and since you won't have it they may deport the kids and the mom. Also you've only heard one side and don't really know the reality of the situation. maybe their dad loves them very much and wants to see them or maybe even to raise them. You just can't take her word for it at this point. People do not always tell the truth. Go meet here, spend time with her and the kids, see how you get along. The kids might be little out of control monsters and you'll be counting minutes to get away. You just don't know. So do not plan her coming here at this point. Spend your energy trying to figure out how to get to know her and the kids with no language barrier. Slow down!
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 10, 2012, 06:21:23 PM
sorry, didn't see your response until I posted.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: calmissile on November 10, 2012, 06:25:02 PM
Thanks Eduard I agree that I need to slow it down.   We communicate daily via viber, email, Skype.   She is fluent in English and we communicate very well.

My suggestion would be for her to come on a tourist visa for a couple months and then return home and do a K-1/K-2.

If you want to try the route of her staying here on a tourist visa it can be frought with a lot of legal problems.  If you go this route, I would definitely use an immagration attorney.  They can work miracles (legally), but it costs a lot of money.  Also you would want to consult with one before she even applies for a tourist visa.

You wait to be together using a K-1/K-2 would be less than a year after you apply, so that can give you both  time to get to know each other better.  Living with you while on a tourist visa will give you both a chance to get really acquainted in a real life environment.

If her husband will not grant permission for the kids to immigrate, how does she plan to get around that?  If they are over 21, they can't immigrate on a K-2 anyway.  Probably will have to wait some years to immigrate later.  If they are under 21 they must have their fathers notorized permision.

Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: calmissile on November 10, 2012, 06:28:11 PM
P.S.  She would need her husbands permission for the kids to come as part of your tourist visa.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: ML on November 10, 2012, 06:28:39 PM
You will get some good suggestions here.

But, just to add a little 'light heartedness' . . .

I think Ben Affleck could probably be a big help to you.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: tfcrew on November 10, 2012, 06:39:09 PM
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman  ...  after our initial meeting.   

Confusing there.
You have not actually physically met?
All this should really be in the 'Starting Out' forum.
Without total research, there will be total failure.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: newjason on November 10, 2012, 07:46:29 PM
hi Johnnypt1.
Welcome to RWD.
You asked for some comments and suggestions, and you will get many I am sure.
I'd like to give you some advice, if you choose to accept it , well that is up to you.
First of all, based on what you have described about your situation, I would recommend that you
try to gain a little more realistic perspective on all of this.
You can't possibly know anything about being genuine and scam free, even after you meet people, you don't REALLy know them. Only after a year or two of being with someone every day, living with them, doing daily things with them , THEN you might be able to make these statements and have them be solid.
Let's be frank,  You have a RW that has your attention over the internet. that's all you have.
You know little to nothing about her really.
Talking about bringing her here (wherever that is) under the guise of marriage or any other reason is a total fantasy.
Let me ask you this:
how many people have you befriended on the internet?
how many of those people have you met in Real life?
Of those, (if any) how many were foreigners?

I just returned from Moscow, and I will tell you seriously. The only thing that you can be sure of 100%
is that you will freeze your ass off if you don't come prepared with the proper apparel.

Forget all that gobelty gook that is in your head about her.
Right now all you have is an attractive pen pal.
If and when you meet her, then start collecting thoughts about her, not before.
Because when you meet in person, all that internet time is gone out the window in the first 2 minutes.

keep it real and don't be in a hurry. It's not going to happen fast. It may take years to be successful.

again, welcome :)

Jason

 
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Vaughn on November 10, 2012, 07:53:24 PM
To complicate the situation is that she is recently divorced.... 

Aside from the children issue and the fact you've not yet met face to face, be very very sure to (and you'll have to shelve your enthusiasm here for a few moments) check the statistics on rebound marriages. My second marriage was one of 'em, and as the odds had it, it failed miserably - and very quickly.
 
I agree. Slow down, both of you, and stop thinking quick fix. If you both realize your premature feelings are real upon meeting, she should consult a local attorney about establishing sole custody. The cold truth is: if those children are still young, she will not leave them behind.
 
Enjoy your visit. Then plan to make a few more.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Daveman on November 10, 2012, 07:59:40 PM
The first step (as others and yourself mentioned) would be to slow down.


The tourist visa may or may not be possible.  She could probably get one if she left her kid(s) at home as that would indicate an intent to return.  Tourist visas seem to be almost a flip of a coin. Some get them; others don't. 


Using a tourist visa for/with the intent of immigration is definitely not advisable.  Best case, she'd pull it off and actually get one with children in tow, AND then successfully navigate all the legal hoops and landmines .. worst case - deportation and/or lifetime ban from ever returning.


Welcome to the Asylum..  8)






Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to a disastrous marriage
Post by: Ade on November 10, 2012, 11:07:09 PM
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free.    The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow in January where she will fly to meet me there (mind you she is paying her way to meet up with me).  I want to know if anyone has suggestions how to get her in the USA as quick as possible after our initial meeting.   To complicate the situation is that she is recently divorced and her ex who is not involved with the children will probably not agree to let the children leave the country.  We will marry when she comes to me if not sooner.   We don't want to wait two years to be together.  She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back.   We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing.  Please I invite comments/suggestions.   Appreciate any help.


Really, why do you think any of what you've written is a good idea? Would you chat with someone on the net for a few weeks in your own country and think about marrying them? No?  Why is that do you think? Relationship physics aren't any different because the woman is from Russia. The added complications that she is recently divorced and has kids to think about should also not encourage haste.


Remove these marriage ideas from your head as it puts way too much pressure on you to make it work no matter what, blinding you to realities you really should be fully clear about.


Take a trip, see how it goes. It wouldn't be the first time there was absolutely no physical chemistry upon first meeting even if you were involved in a cyber love fest beforehand. Then, take another, or get her to visit you on a tourist visa. Usually the second meeting is far more informative in terms of relationship compatibility. Rinse and Repeat until you are absolutely sure you can't live without this person without the cyber-infatuation blinding your judgement.


This is not something you want to rush. Or, if you do, you will more than likely regret it. 
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to a disastrous marriage
Post by: Vasilisa on November 10, 2012, 11:14:43 PM


This is not something you want to rush. Or, if you do, you will more than likely regret it.
I personally know 2 examples when it all worked out and both couples are still happily married with kids  and a lot more couples  where men traveled 5+ times and spent a lot of vacations together before the couple got married got divorced within a year after the wedding.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Vasilisa on November 10, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
PS: but it both cases where it all worked out the women were kinda "absent minded"
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 10, 2012, 11:26:30 PM
PS: but it both cases where it all worked out the women were kinda "absent minded"
what do you mean?
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Vasilisa on November 10, 2012, 11:49:14 PM
what do you mean?
Just a type of a personality, when the woman  believes everything the man says no matter what he is saying.  Never sees any red flags, not sceptical at all,  doesn't have her own point of view, if the man says it's good then it's good, if the man says it's bad then it's bad, doesn't understand sarcasm or irony, etc.

Something like: the man comes home at 4 am drunk with lipstick marks all over his body and women's underwear in his pockets saying :"Dear , it was a top secret over-time work", she would just say:"Oh, honey, you must be tired! Do you want me to help you with the bath and give you a massage to relax a little bit?" :D
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 10, 2012, 11:55:18 PM
Just a type of a personality, when the woman  believes everything the man says no matter what he is saying.  Never sees any red flags, not sceptical at all,  doesn't have her own point of view, if the man says it's good then it's good, if the man says it's bad then it's bad, doesn't understand sarcasm or irony, etc.

Something like: the man comes home at 4 am drunk with lipstick marks all over his body and women's underwear in his pockets saying :"Dear , it was a top secret over-time work", she would just say:"Oh, honey, you must be tired! Do you want me to help you with the bath and give you a massage to relax a little bit?" :D
are there women like that???
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Vasilisa on November 10, 2012, 11:58:39 PM
are there women like that???
Well, the example above  is a little bit 'over", but I know 4 women that always side with their men and the men are always right, all of them are happily married and don't work. (not independent women ;D)

By the way, watch "Брилиантовая рука".
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to a disastrous marriage
Post by: Ade on November 11, 2012, 01:24:55 AM
I personally know 2 examples when it all worked out and both couples are still happily married with kids  and a lot more couples  where men traveled 5+ times and spent a lot of vacations together before the couple got married got divorced within a year after the wedding.


Uh huh, and I've personally heard of people winning the lottery but I don't go around telling people to quit work and buy a lottery ticket while advising them that others have done that and it worked out fine for them.


We are not even talking about a one week wonder here which is nutty enough.


It's all about minimizing risk while maximizing the potential for success. Even the quite extensive data gathered by this site indicates that initial success in marriage is determined by the amount of time spent getting to know someone before marriage.


But if you believe in this method so much, you should try it. At least guys wouldn't get enough time to see how high maintenance you'd be.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Globetrotter on November 11, 2012, 01:30:40 AM
And just why are you in such a hurry to marry a girl you have never, ever met? 
Incredible!  I have known my girl for over 2 years, met 7 times on several continents, and are still thinking about it.
Are you just horney, or stupid?  Would you do the same with a girl in the USA?  Do you think this is easy?  Do you think that a relationship with a girl from a different culture, different country who speaks a different language is a good path to follow?  Yet, you want to marry one without meeting her?  Grow up and get a life....and demand a pre-nup if you have 2 nickels to rub together.  Amazing....not unlike our western dufus who married a baby and thinks all will be good...another one week wonder.  Grow some balls, think of what you are contemplating...then think again! 
Go back to school and study psychology, you know, the study of human behavior, then again, study your own!  Amazing!  Where do they come from?
 
 
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: ECOCKS on November 11, 2012, 01:44:11 AM
Living in fairy land dude. Talking of marriage before your initial meeting?

Why "as quick as possible"? Desperate for a house-keeper?

Get real, let the courtship take it's course so you can learn about each other.

"come here then not go back"
and "We are both intelligent professionals" doesn't sound like you are too intelligent.

+1 (X 1000)!

Few people here would care to encourage you in your pursuit of fraudulent representation, kidnapping children and a foolhardy love affair.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: ECOCKS on November 11, 2012, 01:46:29 AM
The quickest way would prolly be flying her to Mexico (no visa needed) and then crossing the border as every one else seem to do.  8)

Well, few would help but there are always some who are wild and crazy dudes themselves.....!
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: jone on November 11, 2012, 02:50:49 AM
And then there was the one about the lady who said, "I am coming to be with you.  Just pay off my Husband so he will sign the papers allowing my children to come!!!!!" HAHAHAHA.  It's true and actually happened.  And the husband then had a change of heart once he had the money and the woman was absolutely stuck and couldn't leave her children in that country with her (Supposedly) Ex Husband.

You are exposing yourself to be scammed.  Big time.  Listen to these people!  I'm not saying it's happening, but I am saying that you are running down the street with no clothes on.  You is nakky to anything she wants to do!

(And I'm usually the one that is saying 'go for it'.)
 
x1

Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Patagonie on November 11, 2012, 03:16:39 AM
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free. 

FOR THE MOMENT YOU DON'T KNOW, ONE TRIED TO SCAM ME AFTER TWO  TRIPS.

  The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow in January where she will fly to meet me there (mind you she is paying her way to meet up with me). 

MAKE HER SOME SAVING AND MEET HER IN HER CITY. ALSO PREPARE A BACKUP OR PROSPECT IF THERE ARE WORTH AGENCIES.

I want to know if anyone has suggestions how to get her in the USA as quick as possible after our initial meeting.

WIFES ARE NOT LIKE NEW REAL ESTATE THAT YOU BUY ON PLAN

  To complicate the situation is that she is recently divorced and her ex who is not involved with the children will probably not agree to let the children leave the country.

YOU NEED TO CHECK THIS : if the children cannot leave the country she would surely not come in USA. If the father don't want you would be in trouble. END of the story.

THERE IS NOTHING COMPLICATED FOR THE MOMENT AS THIS RELATIONSHIP DOESN'T EXIST FOR THE MOMENT (you don't even know if she is good at sex), YOU JUST MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED

 We will marry when she comes to me if not sooner.

SORRY ?

  We don't want to wait two years to be together.

AS YOU DON'T EVEN MET IT IS A LITTLE UPPISH.

 She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back. 

SHE IS SO IN HURRY TO LEAVE HER CITY ? SHE LIVES NEAR TCHERNOBYL ?


 We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing.

IF YOU WERE SO INTELLIGENT (I MEAN IN THE SOCIAL AREA),  WOULD YOU ADVICE YOUR BEST FRIEND TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ? JUST THINK OF IT.

 Please I invite comments/suggestions.   Appreciate any help.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Anotherkiwi on November 11, 2012, 05:00:58 AM
...Something like: the man comes home at 4 am drunk with lipstick marks all over his body and women's underwear in his pockets saying :"Dear , it was a top secret over-time work", she would just say:"Oh, honey, you must be tired! Do you want me to help you with the bath and give you a massage to relax a little bit?" :D

I think "naive" or "trusting" rather than "absent-minded" would cover it.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: GoodOlBoy on November 11, 2012, 05:10:29 AM
We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing. 

Then do the right thing and go through the "process" properly and legally like everybody else here on RWD.
 
Welcome to the forum Johnny.  :welcome:
 
GOB
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Shadow on November 11, 2012, 07:53:16 AM
are there women like that???
Ed found an imperfection in his wife. >:D
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 11, 2012, 08:14:14 AM
And then there was the one about the lady who said, "I am coming to be with you.  Just pay off my Husband so he will sign the papers allowing my children to come!!!!!" HAHAHAHA.  It's true and actually happened.  And the husband then had a change of heart once he had the money and the woman was absolutely stuck and couldn't leave her children in that country with her (Supposedly) Ex Husband.

You are exposing yourself to be scammed.  Big time.  Listen to these people!  I'm not saying it's happening, but I am saying that you are running down the street with no clothes on.  You is nakky to anything she wants to do!

(And I'm usually the one that is saying 'go for it'.)
 
x1
+1
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on November 11, 2012, 10:40:56 AM
Ed found an imperfection in his wife. >:D
Nobody is perfect, Shadow! Not even you and I  :P
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: CDW on November 11, 2012, 01:10:31 PM
You would need to wait until you have met her in real life first before making further commitments  (not via webcam)
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: noelscot on November 11, 2012, 03:03:02 PM
She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back.   

Did I read this correctly? She plans to bring her children to the U.S. without their biological father's consent and overstay the tourist visa?
 
I'm not an attorney, but it sounds like you would be putting yourself at risk by being complicit to immigration fraud.
 
Can you tell us how you determined the woman with whom you are corresponding is fraud-free? Perhaps you did a background check through Wymoo or another reputable company?
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: calmissile on November 11, 2012, 03:16:27 PM

Did I read this correctly? She plans to bring her children to the U.S. without their biological father's consent and overstay the tourist visa?
 
I'm not an attorney, but it sounds like you would be putting yourself at risk by being complicit to immigration fraud.
 
Can you tell us how you determined the woman with whom you are corresponding is fraud-free? Perhaps you did a background check through Wymoo or another reputable company?

If she and the kids come without the permission of the father, she will likely be on an airplane with the kids as soon as she is caught.

There are legal ways to accomplish what she wants, but not without the fathers permission.  I suspect that once they research this further, they will take a different plan of action.  LOL
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Wayne on November 12, 2012, 02:46:12 PM
USCIS considers someone to be a child until age 21. In Russia, at age 16 you get your own passport and can usually travel without your parents permission. So how old are the children?
You said children, so that means two or more. How many? What ages?
Do you earn enough to take on three or more additional family members? Can you pay for their university education? Do you know that Russian women, in general, like to spoil their children?
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Faux Pas on November 12, 2012, 03:23:49 PM
Johnny

Keep in mind most everyone here is wanting to be helpful. There are however a number of flags with your scenario as you've presented it.  A couple of questions you should ask yourself (no need to answer just think about it) ;

Why is this woman is such a hurry to leave that she'd take her kids and illegally fly them to you even if there was a way?

Why are you in such a hurry that you are discussing marriage with a woman you've never met?

If you could pull it off illegally, are you prepared for the excessive expense and mental anguish sure to follow and clean up the legal aspects so she could stay?

Truth is stranger than fiction and you both may very will be solid clear thinking people. If so, keep in mind it is nothing more than infatuation at this stage. You need to meet first. Spend some time getting to know each other in real time and both decide if it is worth another meeting.

You can do this but, attempting to do it illegally is not going to help your relationship. Getting caught will only keep you apart longer. There is a right way and a wrong way. The right way only gives you a 50/50 chance and the wrong way the odds are much worse. Are you feeling lucky?
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: ML on November 12, 2012, 04:11:29 PM
There are the basic TEN COMMANDMENTS posted as stickys in the starting out  section:

1. Never send money to someone you have never met.

2. Always have a back-up plan.

3. Work to eliminate any agency from your communications.

4. Always get the lady's home address and home phone number as early as possible.

5. Verify the ladies you are writing to are real.

6. Do not fall in love with photos!!

7. Always be yourself. Show the ladies the real you. Be truthful. Use current photos.

8. Do not rush into this! Take your time and be methodical, not impulsive, about this process.

9. Treat international dating the same as dating someone from your home country. The biggest difference is the cost (travel, phone. etc). This is an expensive process. Don't believe anyone that tells you otherwise.

10. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MAIL-ORDER BRIDE! They do not exist.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Milz713 on December 07, 2012, 09:35:02 AM
I would say that the odds of getting a tourist visa for her and the kids would be slim to none,  I was in a relationship with a FSU woman with a child and we talked about stripping the ex's parental rights and in the end we chose to do nothing and parted ways..  She wanted to come as a tourist and we were afraid that wouldn't work either because her travel history was limited and she would be denied.  I understand why Johnny is quick to the thoughts of marriage,  it is normal to think about it in the hours after a good Skype conversation and that is the ultimate goal of anyone here.  Nobody wants to be alone and if that is the only way then roll the dice!   I got a lot of grief here also for my plan,  met on the Internet in July,  met in Turkey in October,  filed k-1 in December,  meeting the parents in March,  hopefully she will be here in July,  maybe it will end in tears and maybe it won't but its my call,,,
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Doll on December 07, 2012, 05:02:27 PM
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free.    The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow in January where she will fly to meet me there (mind you she is paying her way to meet up with me).  I want to know if anyone has suggestions how to get her in the USA as quick as possible after our initial meeting.   To complicate the situation is that she is recently divorced and her ex who is not involved with the children will probably not agree to let the children leave the country.  We will marry when she comes to me if not sooner.   We don't want to wait two years to be together.  She suggested that she apply for a tourist visa during the kids Spring break in march/April which will be an unsuspecting time and come here then not go back.   We are both intelligent professionals and want to be together but at the same time want to do the right thing.  Please I invite comments/suggestions.   Appreciate any help.
K-1 is the quickest visa. As for her ex- Russia lets kids go without the permission of the "other" parent. She has to not tell her ex about her plans.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: ML on December 07, 2012, 05:39:30 PM
As for her ex- Russia lets kids go without the permission of the "other" parent. She has to not tell her ex about her plans.

Why then was there discussions in several other threads about guys having paid off the ex to get his permission?

Were those examples about Ukraine; which might have different rules?
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Chicagoguy on December 07, 2012, 06:23:54 PM
Check out www.visajourney.com (http://www.visajourney.com) for best information.
It seems to me that using a tourist visa for a fiance is not recommended. It could even be a permanent ban for her if discovered. It is not a game for U.S. Immigration people.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: calmissile on December 07, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
Why then was there discussions in several other threads about guys having paid off the ex to get his permission?

Were those examples about Ukraine; which might have different rules?

Maybe Russia does not require permission for kids on a tourist visa although it seems strange to me.
For sure Ukriane requires notorized permission from father for Tourist Visa or K-1/K-2.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Doll on December 07, 2012, 06:46:37 PM
Why then was there discussions in several other threads about guys having paid off the ex to get his permission?

Were those examples about Ukraine; which might have different rules?
I don't know why. There is a clear regulation in Russia about kids under 18 yo going abroad with one parent- no permission needed from another.
http://www.pegast.ru/special/documents/out-kids (http://www.pegast.ru/special/documents/out-kids)
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
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Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Maxx2 on December 07, 2012, 09:58:12 PM
I have met a genuinely wonderful Russian woman that is legitimate and fraud-free.    The plan is that I will meet her in Moscow...


You don't know damn $hit about this woman. You haven't even met her yet. For all you know she might be setting you up for the scam of your life. You are not in control. Your silly romantic heart is. Go over there with your mind in charge and figure reality not what your dream is.


With Russian women it is certain, her children will always outrank you. They come first and in an extreme way. This is the number 1 cause of divorce in Russia. Once a Russian woman has a child the husband is shelved. They rather remind me of she-bears in that regard.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: ECOCKS on December 08, 2012, 01:28:10 AM
All so mixed up now between:


* Naive western men's hopes/dreams.


* Naive FSUW hopes/dreams.


* US rules and regulations.


* Ukraine rules and regulations.


* Russian Federation rules and regulations.


* Realities of airports, local laws, CIS regulations and how many traffic lights your passport control officer/consular officer/ticket agent caught on the way to work on that morning.


There are big differences and varying versions of reality between these points.


Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: viking on December 08, 2012, 06:33:33 AM
We are all giving advice to each other here. Where is the OP?
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Eduard on December 08, 2012, 08:07:37 AM
We are all giving advice to each other here. Where is the OP?
excellent observation!  :P
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Faux Pas on December 08, 2012, 08:12:55 AM
We are all giving advice to each other here. Where is the OP?

None of the sage advice was for him. He wouldn't listen or take it to heart anyway
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Daveman on December 08, 2012, 09:14:29 AM
None of the sage advice was for him. He wouldn't listen or take it to heart anyway


I agree.. seems he bailed on the same day he left his first post.  Probably didn't care much for the fantithesis suggestion of slowing down a bit..  :crackwhip:
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: GQBlues on December 08, 2012, 09:28:25 AM
We are all giving advice to each other here. Where is the OP?


LOL. I noticed this yesterday. The OP never really came back since his op and it was Milz who brought the thread back-up and all of the sudden it's like a feeding frenzy all over again...LOL!


So anyway, likely the OP could be anywhere by now. Heck, his relationship had *progressed* so fast he's likely in the *thousand dollars/month money giveaway phase* with his "woman" today.

Now all he has to do is meet the woman in person.
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: Milz713 on December 08, 2012, 10:04:24 AM
It's all my fault.  :cluebat:
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: CDW on December 08, 2012, 10:22:13 AM
There are the basic TEN COMMANDMENTS posted as stickys in the starting out  section:

1. Never send money to someone you have never met.


Shouldn't you write  "Thou Shalt Not send money to someone you have never met"  ?

lol
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: viking on December 08, 2012, 10:54:32 AM
It's all my fault.  :cluebat:

Well...I am glad you finally took the responsibility.  ;)
Title: Re: Which is the quickest way to bring a Russian lady to USA
Post by: ECOCKS on December 08, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
Remember, no one is grateful when you destroy their fantasy.....


Also remember that others will come along, read this thread for the headline information and...maybe...learn something.


Then again, maybe not.