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Offline Trenchcoat

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Re: Should a people's/person's mindset be important in your search?
« Reply #100 on: November 15, 2018, 02:30:53 PM »
whatever sick, twisted, perverted fantasy your feverish brain could ever concoct
if you go to the Ukrainian market and if you have enough leverage
it doesn’t have to remain a fantasy

or not...
totally up to you

This seems surprisingly true. The girl I briefly met  in Nikolaev well on her profile on Mamba she had all of the dirty sexual options ok'd - tie ups, play acting, sexual games, preferences, etc. I hadn't noticed it at first since it was at the bottom of the page. I queried it with her, whether it would be on me or her. She replied that for the right guy she was open to it. Now she was a regular Uni girl who was/had just finished her studies. So I was found it somewhat strange, she was very regular looking everyday girl and dressed in everyday wear so not really your racy type of girl. She had studied Sociology and was 23 so I guess would be 26 ish now. I wasn't the right guy for her, I kind of wonder now if she wanted to find a guy as an immigration mule to a Country where Uni Education is still completely free like Denmark. She asked me whether it was in the UK I told her not exactly.

Now UK girls would take issue and possibly dump a guy unless she thought you were Mr Dogs Bollocks with other girls interested.

It really does seem like a lot of girls aren't fussed and will go to anything for guys they like even mildly. Not saying it goes for all of them but I think quiet a log of them even if on the quiet. I would be careful about raising it/how it is raised. I think building a bit of rapport as a good thing to do first.
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Re: Should a people's/person's mindset be important in your search?
« Reply #101 on: November 15, 2018, 02:50:01 PM »
Hey, Trench

Thanks for the example re the type of gal you're more likely to meet on mamba these days ..

It's clear what she was looking for - without even seeing her profile  -  and you were daft enough to be 'hopeful '? ...   :wallbash:

I mean it's hardly saying to me, "I want to settle down and make babies .... "

You really need your 'ladar' tuning ;)




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Should a people's/person's mindset be important in your search?
« Reply #102 on: November 15, 2018, 03:21:00 PM »
You really need your 'ladar' tuning ;)


Gaydar is the ability to detect gay people ie gad radar = gaydar

So what's ladar?

Laddy radar? where you note which lads are most likely to be the gayest?
Laid radar? where you can detect what the odds of your getting laid is?

It was late maybe it was ladder. Make sure you peak up her dress when she
scales the ladder?

La Der as in see you later?
La Dar as in your ability to determine if the girl has been shopping in the San Fernando
Valley.

Valley girl = Women characterized by the colloquial California English dialect Valleyspeak and materialism.


Ok, Ok, I will quit guessing
« Last Edit: November 15, 2018, 03:29:08 PM by 2tallbill »
FSUW are not for entry level daters
FSUW don't do vague
FSUW like a man of action. Be a man of action 
If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane.
There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Just kiss the girl, don't ask her first. Tolerate NO excuses!

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Re: Should a people's/person's mindset be important in your search?
« Reply #103 on: November 15, 2018, 03:59:00 PM »
Hey, Trench

Thanks for the example re the type of gal you're more likely to meet on mamba these days ..

It's clear what she was looking for - without even seeing her profile  -  and you were daft enough to be 'hopeful '? ...   :wallbash:

I mean it's hardly saying to me, "I want to settle down and make babies .... "

You really need your 'ladar' tuning ;)

Maybe you put it a perfect performance on your first effort on meeting the first FSW you went to meet Mobers. Most of us need to gain a bit of experience from which we piece together over time what it is like over there dating FSW and what the deal is. BB in the other thread is describing what Newbies tend to find. Experiences vary a bit but generally it's about discovering about the situation as things go on and building up that experience & knowledge of FSU Dating. BB is handed a situation each girl he gets in contact with. Now some of us who have even a tiny amount of experience/knowledge can see areas to be wary of where he does not, how could he, it's the first time he's tried FSU dating and hasn't even been out there yet. Most guys are pretty vulnerable to girls who are shrewder than your average scammer and have a bit up top to play the guy for what they want.

Krimster's advice on here has been invaluable. He essentially has knowledge a local local Ukrainian or Russian guy would have and he is generous to impart it to us :) Without Krimster's input we would be reliant on a load of westerners who have just their fragment of the total picture. Its not a bad attempt at trying to understand the FSU dating situation but a foreign attempt at understanding isn't going to unlock the more specific local understanding.

We need that local understanding desperately as otherwise as we know FSW will catch on to our lack of understanding over time and play us as a result of lacking understanding. I don't want to see any guys needlessly played by FSW like they have been in the past and still to some extent do. There are enough women in the FSU for us all to do well if we master the basics locals know but we tend to be in the dark off, not totally but more than enough off.
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Re: Should a people's/person's mindset be important in your search?
« Reply #104 on: November 15, 2018, 10:53:27 PM »
Hi Beel

I used the term 'ladar' in the context of gaydar - to suggest Trenches lack of empathy for the fairer sex's desires / wishes when searching for a male partner ..

I can only pray it will one day be used more commonly ;)



Trench

My first trip to the FSU was made after I'd lived WITH ( an FSU W) and WORKED  with and SOCIALISED with FSU folk on ( the island of ) Cyprus ... I had a HUGE advantage over most western guys .. 

1/ I could speak 'better' Russian

2/ I had dated FSU W in the 'west' ( Cyprus is EAST of the UK ..)

Despite all those advantages, I still managed to end up in Volgograd with a FSU W who I really liked - but could not communicate with and sat in an apartment BORED ..waiting for her to complete her filial duties

I resolved to learn Russian better and not rely on friends as translators,  NOT to chose a woman whose parents were elderly and needed caring for and thus the woman couldn't really leave..

This was WAY before Skype and Russians had decent internet






 











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Re: Should a people's/person's mindset be important in your search?
« Reply #105 on: November 16, 2018, 07:15:41 AM »
Maybe you put it a perfect performance on your first effort on meeting the first FSW you went to meet Mobers. Most of us need to gain a bit of experience from which we piece together over time what it is like over there dating FSW and what the deal is. BB in the other thread is describing what Newbies tend to find. Experiences vary a bit but generally it's about discovering about the situation as things go on and building up that experience & knowledge of FSU Dating. BB is handed a situation each girl he gets in contact with. Now some of us who have even a tiny amount of experience/knowledge can see areas to be wary of where he does not, how could he, it's the first time he's tried FSU dating and hasn't even been out there yet. Most guys are pretty vulnerable to girls who are shrewder than your average scammer and have a bit up top to play the guy for what they want.

Krimster's advice on here has been invaluable. He essentially has knowledge a local local Ukrainian or Russian guy would have and he is generous to impart it to us :) Without Krimster's input we would be reliant on a load of westerners who have just their fragment of the total picture. Its not a bad attempt at trying to understand the FSU dating situation but a foreign attempt at understanding isn't going to unlock the more specific local understanding.

We need that local understanding desperately as otherwise as we know FSW will catch on to our lack of understanding over time and play us as a result of lacking understanding. I don't want to see any guys needlessly played by FSW like they have been in the past and still to some extent do. There are enough women in the FSU for us all to do well if we master the basics locals know but we tend to be in the dark off, not totally but more than enough off.

You need someone to tell you that putting your sexual preferences or what you are "willing" to do on a dating app is not normal?

You don't need a local understanding of dating, because you are never going to be a local.  But I'll tell you one thing - if a UM asks a woman out, he pays for everything, he doesn't complain about it like some whiny 14 year old, and he knows what the woman's expectations are, based on who she is.

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« Last Edit: November 16, 2018, 07:17:42 AM by Boethius »
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