Hello guys!

[Trenchcoat]

..and how are your 'plans'  working out, oh 'expert' ?

I'll start a thread on this so as to not ruin Rod's one

[GM_Rod]

I’m not saying they are bad. Just that as a whole, they are no better than women anywhere else on earth, in terms of attitudes and character. That goes for RW as well.

People should look for what they want in life, but do so with eyes wide open, rather than  resorting to inaccurate stereotypes or speculation.

This reasoning is accurate, actually! I do agree with the last bit.
But, when you GO there and you want to date pretty much every girl you see, from the small neighborhood supermarket cashier, to the lady behind the counter at McDonald's, it's hardly an "inaccurate" stereotype anymore...
Once you go there and verify, it's also no longer speculation, either.

;-)

[GM_Rod]

No, they don’t. Unlike you, I speak the languages fluently. I lived in Ukraine. I have seen a lot, the good and the bad. When I tell you that you don’t know what you’re talking about here, I am not mistaken.

There's two universal languages that can be used without words: The language of love and the language of music. Sting help me out here.

[GM_Rod]

Tinder isn't the best place to find marriage material but even on dating sites, there's a night and day difference between those in the FSU and in America. Lots of good women in America but a higher percent are married and stay married. Quality women in the FSU tend to hold out till they find what their worth allows them to find or get divorced and are more selective the second round.

Beauty is one place a guy can upgrade in the FSU. Beauty can give a small indication how healthy a person is on the inside. If a person lets themselves go physically and has poor hygiene, chances are they aren't mentally healthy. Mentally unhealthy people have a tendency to let their bodies, house, and lives go.

THIS GUY!!! THANK YOU.
I had accounts in every single dating website you can think of, always signing up for the most expensive deals with the "specialists" that help you with your profile, all of it.
Amazingly, Tinder works better. It's hard to believe but... it's true.
I've had more success with Tinder in a month of using it, than all the years on all those sites.

What you said there about beauty is PERFECT, that's exactly correct. Plus, our instincts are rigged so women who look prettier to us, are cognitively understood as healthy so yup!!

[msmob]

Hi Rod,

Thank God, Tinder was hardly started when I was last  looking for a partner ...  From the experiences of others I know in the FSU it seems a rotten place to search for a long-term partner .... just dates...

I'm assuming that you experience of Tinder isn't recent - given the reason you started this thread .? ( Confused,me )

 

[Sting23]

There's two universal languages that can be used without words: The language of love and the language of music. Sting help me out here.

Amen brother!! If you are a musician you know how powerful it can be to connect people regardless of language.  Many a seduction has come from music.

Check this out:

The trumpeter is serenading a woman.  She is actually Sting's wife.  Look at her gaze and eyes.  Then Sting comes out on stage and sings to her... My nickname here is a tribute to his musicianship.

I taught music in Russia to young children who couldn't speak a lick of English.  I had them dancing and playing and engaged far more than if I were just giving them a boring academic lecture. 

And as for using music in love, well...

[LAman]

Amen brother!! If you are a musician you know how powerful it can be to connect people regardless of language.  Many a seduction has come from music.

Check this out:

The trumpeter is serenading a woman.  She is actually Sting's wife.  Look at her gaze and eyes.  Then Sting comes out on stage and sings to her... My nickname here is a tribute to his musicianship.

I taught music in Russia to young children who couldn't speak a lick of English.  I had them dancing and playing and engaged far more than if I were just giving them a boring academic lecture. 

And as for using music in love, well...

What would music be without words? Sting only playing music, not singing?

[LAman]

There's two universal languages that can be used without words: The language of love and the language of music. Sting help me out here.

My deaf friends would argue with you!!!

[LAman]

Hi Rod,

Thank God, Tinder was hardly started when I was last  looking for a partner ...  From the experiences of others I know in the FSU it seems a rotten place to search for a long-term partner .... just dates...

I'm assuming that you experience of Tinder isn't recent - given the reason you started this thread .? ( Confused,me )

Tinder is good for dates and hookups!!

[Sting23]

LAman did you miss the trumpet solo? 

[GM_Rod]

Oh so a couple things:

Define "recent"?

Because me and my girl got back in touch about a couple months ago. I'd say 3 months back is still "recent"...

As for words in music. Um... you do know there's a whole segment of INSTRUMENTAL music, right?
And, Sting is also a crazy ass bassist! Singing is not the ONLY thing he does well.
People who know about the hardships of music, will tell you that singing and playing the BASS (the way HE does anyway, with intricate out-of-sync bass lines), and singing at the same time, is crazy difficult...

Funny story from Boston, 2012:

I was on a speed dating event. You had 8 minutes to talk to each girl, then an alarm rang and you had to switch tables.
One of the obvious things to say in that time, is what you do, right. So "musician".
One girl decided to ask me to sing... so I did.
That was it. I had to do it again on every table, lol

Fun times.

[mhr7]

My deaf friends would argue with you!!!

If you're talking about sign language, it's not universal.

[GM_Rod]

I guess I should show you guys my stuff eh?
www.rodrocks.net
www.youtube.com/rodrocks1040

[Boethius]

This reasoning is accurate, actually! I do agree with the last bit.
But, when you GO there and you want to date pretty much every girl you see, from the small neighborhood supermarket cashier, to the lady behind the counter at McDonald's, it's hardly an "inaccurate" stereotype anymore...
Once you go there and verify, it's also no longer speculation, either.

;-)

The stereotype is not about the physical, it is about the "superior" innate attributes.  Those stereotypes, which you presented, are not accurate.

[Boethius]

There's two universal languages that can be used without words: The language of love and the language of music. Sting help me out here.

LOL.  Yes, and then eventually, she learns the language, and one of you realizes who you really married.

[GM_Rod]

LOL.  Yes, and then eventually, she learns the language, and one of you realizes who you really married.

If it doesn't work, divorce. Start over.
And don't give me that crap about "If you're thinking about a divorce you shouldn't get married in the first place".

I mean there's a reason why I'm 36 and never married.
When I do it, I intend for it to be just the one time.

[Boethius]

So you state the reason you have never taken the risk of marriage is you only want to marry once, yet you suggest "If it doesn't work, divorce.  Start over." . Two contradictory thoughts at play. 


Divorce is not inconsequential, particularly so if children are involved.

[GM_Rod]

So you state the reason you have never taken the risk of marriage is you only want to marry once, yet you suggest "If it doesn't work, divorce.  Start over." . Two contradictory thoughts at play. 


Divorce is not inconsequential, particularly so if children are involved.

They don't contradict at all. Unless I was completely unreasonable at either part of it.

First, when I say I only wanna do it once, I don't mean I will stick to that no matter what, which is what a lot of people do and get stuck in an unhappy marriage just because they don't want to start over.

Second, I never said divorce was inconsequential. Nobody dreams about being divorced. Nobody has divorce as an objective.

And children... if one married someone who is not right for them, and they allowed it to go that far, then I'm sorry but they are to blame for their own misery because as far as I know, nobody forces anyone to marry.
Not to mention, what affects children more? The divorce, or staying together when the couple has absolutely nothing left but contempt for each other? I say divorce is better than THAT.

[Boethius]

No, there are studies that suggest divorce is not better for children.  Two things I could always tell when in my children's school:


1.  Which children had nannies; and
2.  Which children came from broken homes.


Conflict has to be very intense for divorce to be a better family option.

[ML]

Marriages that last, from my observation, are built on shared values, not shared loins.

Spouse and I both love pork tenderloins.

[Sting23]

He is saying from his own personal experience that the girls in Ukraine and Russia were better than the ones he met in America and Brazil.
That's his own small sample size.  Sure there's scammers and bad people everywhere.

I had the same experience.  Russian girls are more enjoyable to date and befriend than girls from other countries that I have lived in. 
 
Of course you need a common language to communicate.  Rod didn't imply that it was unimportant.  Simply that as a musician it is a very powerful way of attraction.  Look at rock and pop stars.

If you've never performed music in front of an audience before then you don't know it's power. 

[Sting23]

Case in point Bono.  This girl is literally all over him:

[Boethius]

He is saying from his own personal experience that the girls in Ukraine and Russia were better than the ones he met in America and Brazil.
That's his own small sample size.  Sure there's scammers and bad people everywhere.

I had the same experience.  Russian girls are more enjoyable to date and befriend than girls from other countries that I have lived in. 
 
Of course you need a common language to communicate.  Rod didn't imply that it was unimportant.  Simply that as a musician it is a very powerful way of attraction.  Look at rock and pop stars.

If you've never performed music in front of an audience before then you don't know it's power.

No, he didn’t post it was his experience. Plus he was pretty clear that a common language is unimportant. It’s not the music that attracts. It’s everything around it.

[Boethius]

Case in point Bono.  This girl is literally all over him:

Would she be all over him were he not world famous and wealthy?

Eric Clapton once said he lost all his friends when he sobered up. The sentiment is expressed well here-

[kynrazor]

Marriages that last, from my observation, are built on shared values, not shared loins.

You know Boe, as a 25 year old, at times I do wonder what happens after men & women hit their menopause. Would the fire in the loins be largely gone by then?

Perhaps for the most part, after the looks and hormones have long faded away, only the glimmer behind the eye that continues to fascinate till the end of life remain.