DOUBLE DEALERS

[Gator]

It has been a long time. 

Are you losing your touch..uh...eye?  Are the women using different photos for MOB agencies?  Are there fewer women working both sides of the fence? Are you too busy with other stuff?

Who will protect us if not you?

[SANDRO43]

Interesting questions, Phil.

Are you losing your touch..uh...eye?

I don't think so, at least not yet .

Are the women using different photos for MOB agencies?

Time passes for everybody, however hookers never get publicly older - simply because their sites register them with their age, NOT their birth date - and those with professionally made photos reuse them for years, the chaster ones on dating sites. I hardly forget a pretty face anyway.  

Are there fewer women working both sides of the fence?

I get that impression. There may be several explanations for that, one being that it takes more concentration to maintain two - or more - separate identities. After all, normal scammers have it easier, scamming AND dating follow more similar patterns.

What I did notice in the recent past is a higher turnover in hooker sites, deaths and births occur at a more frenzied pace than in the past, but their girls often are already familiar faces.  

Are you too busy with other stuff?

I think you already know the answer to that, as will everybody else very shortly .

Who will protect us if not you?

Basic common sense. Would you believe that a stunner like model Alina could make herself available to 55 year olds, as she stated in her 2006 Bride RU profile, unless wealthy sugar daddies ? I remember she had another profile elsewhere stating she was from Bulgaria, but I haven't recovered that yet. Considering her rather low fees, she may be comparatively new at the professional game.

[kievstar]

Here is a Kiev girl on EM currently with 2 profiles. 

ID: 5486156  Active within 7 days
Lilie, 27 years Kiev, Ukraine
 I am kind generous and my glass is always half full as opposed to half empty ( always optimistic) I love life generally and want to have a happy home with marriage and children. 


ID: 6170654  Active within 7 days
Liliya, 27 years Kiev, Ukraine
 I am kind generous and my glass is always half full as opposed to half empty ( always optimistic) I love life generally and want to have a happy home with marriage and children. 


I found more than 20 other girls double dipping on EM.  Not just in Kiev and I only spent about 20 minutes looking.  People I know have met this girl.  I prefer were she is 119 pounds and not 121 pounds.  She does this on purpose to generate more traffic.  Nice party girl.  Someday I will do a full report on EM but beware many hookers who will marry there.

[SANDRO43]

Here is a Kiev girl on EM currently with 2 profiles. 

ID: 5486156  Active within 7 days
Lilie, 27 years Kiev, Ukraine
 I am kind generous and my glass is always half full as opposed to half empty ( always optimistic) I love life generally and want to have a happy home with marriage and children. 


ID: 6170654  Active within 7 days
Liliya, 27 years Kiev, Ukraine
 I am kind generous and my glass is always half full as opposed to half empty ( always optimistic) I love life generally and want to have a happy home with marriage and children. 


I found more than 20 other girls double dipping on EM.  Not just in Kiev and I only spent about 20 minutes looking.  People I know have met this girl.  I prefer were she is 119 pounds and not 121 pounds.  She does this on purpose to generate more traffic.  Nice party girl.  Someday I will do a full report on EM but beware many hookers who will marry there.

Kievstar, she may well be a Double Dipper, but doesn't ring any bells as Double Dealer, unless you can provide some evidence that her "self-employed" occupation is the world's oldest .

[Shadow]

unless you can provide some evidence that her "self-employed" occupation is the world's oldest .

Why does she have to be harvesting apples ???? 

[SANDRO43]

Why does she have to be harvesting apples ???? 

I was referring neither to that, nor to playing around with snakes undressed.

[jdk1963]

I am particulalry irritated by this form of scamming, i.e. known Russian/Ukrainian/etc. prostitutes who post ads on dating sites under different names, looking for foreign husbands.

They usually make a strategic mistake : even though the name is different, they almost invariably use the same photos (usually the chaster ones), probably to save money.

Since I have a good memory for gorgeous girls (which they often are), it is usually easy for me to spot them.

I have devoted a page of my personal website (bilingual Italian/English) to reporting this particular phenomenon, now with 30+ entries and growing. For those interested, the page address is :

http://www.floriani.it/sitirussi/doppiogioco-eng.htm

Would you care to share how you came by their fees and services?   

[Sculpto]

Sandro.. if you are still working on htis project you are going to want to take a look at craigslist moscow..

[jdk1963]

I was reading through the list and I remembered the wonderful line from Killing Zoe.


And then there is Case No. 58 NO SEX! You will be humiliated, tied up and punished.

[SANDRO43]

Would you care to share how you came by their fees and services?

Simple, from their 'professional' profiles . You can check for yourself on the http://www.floriani.it/sitirussi/doppiogioco-eng.htm page by clicking on their YELLOW IDs at right - however, given the high turnover rate of these sites, not ALL of those links are guaranteed to work still (I update them about once a year).

[SANDRO43]

Sandro.. if you are still working on htis project you are going to want to take a look at craigslist moscow..

Eric, yours is a rather vague reference, at a cursory glance I cannot see anything relevant there . Can you post a more specific link?

[jdk1963]

Eric, yours is a rather vague reference, at a cursory glance I cannot see anything relevant there . Can you post a more specific link?

http://moscow.craigslist.org/search/ers/?query=w4m

Hope that helps.

Back when I was a young Marine on the Peleliu. Before we pulled into a port we had a video describing the port and the culture etc. etc.  Towards the end of the video there was a how-to on negotiating with the local service providers, including the current going rates.

[SANDRO43]

http://moscow.craigslist.org/search/ers/?query=w4m
Hope that helps.

Thanks Jdk1963, I had a look, saw a few familiar professional faces, but none that'd qualify as DDs.

[jdk1963]

Thanks Jdk1963, I had a look, saw a few familiar professional faces, but none that'd qualify as DDs.

You don't say! How familiar? 

[ECOCKS]

Who in the world would be interested in picking up one of those gals from Craigslist? Reminded me of those little booklets all over Vegas. That question's rhetorical BTW, not really a conversational gambit.

[jdk1963]

Who in the world would be interested in picking up one of those gals from Craigslist? Reminded me of those little booklets all over Vegas. That question's rhetorical BTW, not really a conversational gambit.

Perhaps this guy!!  [youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB4rzGdqQSk[/youtube]

[SANDRO43]

You don't say! How familiar? 

In a virtual, eidetic way . After seeing them year after year on different sites, they've become sort of dear old acquaintances . I'd be happy to offer them a pint of Guinness or two, if no Garda is snooping around :evil:.

[SANDRO43]

Courtesy of My Russian Lady, here's Larissa/Masha, DD #60.

www.floriani.it/sitirussi/doublegallery-eng.htm

[valence]

Well done, Sandro! 

Your DD page is incredible...

[SANDRO43]

Well done, Sandro!  Your DD page is incredible...

Thanks Val. Fortunately, the DD phenomenon seems to be rather limited (60), but it's one additional pitfall in this venture nevertheless .

[BC]

Thanks Val. Fortunately, the DD phenomenon seems to be rather limited (60), but it's one additional pitfall in this venture nevertheless .

Sandro,

You seem to have a great memory for pretty faces.. and well.. other 'Anatomische Merkmale'  

The '60' may seem like a small number, the tip of an iceberg, but really quite an accomplishment for a human.

Just wait until you can search for a face in Google..  Upload a face and watch the plethora of results..

[edit]  BTW, there are companies out there that do such..  http://abhishek-myspace.blogspot.com/2007/07/face-search-over-internet.html

[valence]

What I have observed on Sandro's site is that these DD's are uniformly 9's or 10's on a scale of 1 to 10.  And if some guy like me who is about 3 out of 10 is trying to pull a 10, then he *deserves* to be scammed. 

[SANDRO43]

What I have observed on Sandro's site is that these DD's are uniformly 9's or 10's on a scale of 1 to 10.

Bear in mind, however, that at least 5 of them (actually, 75 entries) - that I know of - are 'borrowing' models' photos- it's not all gold that glitters .

[ConnerVT]

Sandro,

You seem to have a great memory for pretty faces.. and well.. other 'Anatomische Merkmale'  

The '60' may seem like a small number, the tip of an iceberg, but really quite an accomplishment for a human.

Just wait until you can search for a face in Google..  Upload a face and watch the plethora of results..

[edit]  BTW, there are companies out there that do such..  http://abhishek-myspace.blogspot.com/2007/07/face-search-over-internet.html

There is a reverse image search engine that does just that -- TinEye

http://tineye.com/

[SANDRO43]

There is a reverse image search engine that does just that -- TinEye

Thanks Conner, interesting tool. However, its "1.1215 billion images" apparently are not quite enough yet - a search on my avatar gave just 2 results - my website and 1 agency, while the same photo appears on dozen others.

Better results (9) with the attachment, though - a model much favoured by DDs.