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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #75 on: July 29, 2011, 01:24:32 PM »

Some RWD members will have comments for you.


I'd like to add one more thing not from my point of view but from some of the ladies I wrote to when it comes to physical attraction.

How many of you guys have written a large number of RW and had one or a few of them respond "I'm not attracted to you"? I'm raising my hand.

How many of you guys wrote the women back saying she's shallow? Or wrote her back and try to sell your good personality and character in a last ditch attempt to get hooked up with her? What are you doing? Trying to get her to feel sorry for you? For her to get wet, she needs to be somewhat attracted to you, period. Your personality, character, ability to love big and fine salesmanship of those qualities isn't going to change the status quo.

I respond back to those ladies by thanking them for their honesty and wish them well. I am not insulted by hearing their thoughts about my looks. Maybe they don't like the fact I'm not 100% Caucasian. Maybe they think I got too much meat and fat on my bones. Maybe they think I don't have enough. Maybe they aren't attracted to my face. I don't care. I'm not bothered by that because nobody can win over everybody.

If  I write 1000 women and just 1% of the women think I'm hot, that's 10 women that think I'm the cat's meow. If just 10 women think you're hot, you will be a busy man. Find those women first and then figure out if any of them is wife material.

Why do men and women exercise, watch what they eat, improve their dress and hygiene in an effort to look more beautiful physically? To impress shallow people or to impress the quality people they are trying to catch? By improving our physical appearance we have more options to choose from and that is a good thing. If my girl wants to impress me, she needs to take care of her body including throughout our relationship and I will take care of mine because if I'm in a relationship with her, I would care about her feelings too. In relationships, fulfilling ones physical needs is just as important as fulfilling ones emotional needs.

 I'm sure there are people in relationships right now that are suffering from lack of physical affection because they ignored their needs and proceeded with a partner that did not fulfill those needs.
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #76 on: July 29, 2011, 01:25:40 PM »

Women, therefore, who:


1. Live in vacation areas and would not want to move;
2. Live in big cities and would not want to move;
3. Want the date men who are not marrying them....


The existence of single women elsewhere in your country gives you little if they do not want to move and you can't go live in a vacation area  >:D

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Add the DC zoo to the list and a good seafood restaurant there.

We were one family, a couple of visits here and there.  Agreed popular places to visit and not somewhere out in the boonies.  OTOH I cam imagine any foreign woman getting stuck in the boonies based on a lark or short relationship may give that up rather quickly. Heck.. I wouldn't even make it.

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #77 on: July 29, 2011, 01:55:37 PM »
OTOH I cam imagine any foreign woman getting stuck in the boonies based on a lark or short relationship may give that up rather quickly. Heck.. I wouldn't even make it.


My wife and I will be celebrating her 5 years in Canada in a few weeks  8)


The fact of the matter is that the number of single women in Washington D.C. matters little to the resident of Wyoming or Little Rock or Los Angeles if these single women will not consider a long-distance relationship or are looking for a different type of women, any more than the number of single women in Toronto will necessarily be an comfort to a man living in Medicine Hat, Moose Jaw or even Sudbury. Quite often it will be easier to explore options in other countries as opposed to the alleged single women in your own country...

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #78 on: July 29, 2011, 04:18:46 PM »

But before sex, one must be turned on. As I said earlier, love alone doesn't turn me on. I don't think I'm shallow. A physical relationship is as important as an emotional relationship for many people. I understand what I need and unlike some people, I'm not going to ignore my feelings or feel sorry for a woman I'm not attracted to and marry her.

 If a woman has good character, good personality, and I can have a good emotional connection with her, I can be her friend. That's it. She has to be appealing to my eye to be my lover otherwise I can't get it up. Men should be honest with themselves. If a woman is a good friend and good lover, then she's a keeper.


Billy,
Statements like this project you as the epitome of shallow. Answer me honestly here, is sex just a completely physical act for you?

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #79 on: July 29, 2011, 05:12:45 PM »

Billy,
Statements like this project you as the epitome of shallow. Answer me honestly here, is sex just a completely physical act for you?
I thought I made myself clear in my other thread when I was dating women. My happiness in sex is when I see my partner happy. It's not just about me. If a guy is bad or selfish in sex, he's not going to get many repeat performances with the same woman.
I see you highlighted some parts of my words you quoted. Would you go down on anything no matter how ugly it was? Does anything repulsive turn you off or you're always turned on? I don't go down on fat women and I don't go down on prostitutes. They turn me off. I believe they turn most men off yet you are disturbed by what I wrote.
I understand some guys will go down on any woman who lays on her back. Maybe you should direct your question to those guys if sex is just a physical act for them. You know, it's okay to have standards. Having standards isn't being shallow. Having no standards is being shallow.
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #80 on: July 29, 2011, 05:23:05 PM »

Billy,
Statements like this project you as the epitome of shallow. Answer me honestly here, is sex just a completely physical act for you?


While the thread has gone completely off the rails, and is interestingly enough being responded to by a bunch of dudes (in an area of the Forum described as "Questions to Russian LADIES"), I think this charge of shallowness is a bit harsh.


If sex is not a completely physical act, then what is it? Is there something beyond the physical? Let's leave that up to a Padre. Ok, let's say love is involved.  What is love, if nothing more than a chemical reaction in the brain, which helps genes get passed on through some good old-fashioned baby makin' (queue some Barry White)?  I don't care how great someone's personality is, humans choose the best possible mate, taking into consideration physical and mental attributes, to pass on their genes--or just have some fun.  That's beyond ethical evaluations, such as being shallow; it's unchanging human nature.  Of course, there are unevenly yoked couples out there, but I would argue that coercion, desperation, money, power, or some other factor tipped the scales almost every time.  If the decision to choose a mate was purely based upon mental and physical attributes, a person in the position to choose the best possible mate will do so every time.  Personality is just a small piece of the puzzle.  The pig from Green Acres was a "charming m-effer," as Samuel Jacskon said, but it's still a pig.  ;D     



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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #81 on: July 29, 2011, 09:28:16 PM »
I thought I made myself clear in my other thread when I was dating women. My happiness in sex is when I see my partner happy. It's not just about me. If a guy is bad or selfish in sex, he's not going to get many repeat performances with the same woman.
I see you highlighted some parts of my words you quoted. Would you go down on anything no matter how ugly it was? Does anything repulsive turn you off or you're always turned on? I don't go down on fat women and I don't go down on prostitutes. They turn me off. I believe they turn most men off yet you are disturbed by what I wrote.
I understand some guys will go down on any woman who lays on her back. Maybe you should direct your question to those guys if sex is just a physical act for them. You know, it's okay to have standards. Having standards isn't being shallow. Having no standards is being shallow.


A bit defensive are we?  :o  You made the statement Billy, is this a crawfish? Where did I mention anything about being repulsed? Was making love to a women who was repulsive anywhere in the flow of the topic? Repulsive women and prostitutes? Is this a Freudian slip on your part?


If your happiness in sex is making "your partner happy" why the difficulty in "getting it up" if she doesn't appeal to your eye? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth there stud.  :D Should your pending marriage last 10-15 years what will happen when your brides tits sag, she puts on 40 pounds and no longer appeals to your eye? Do you stop having sex with her?


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She has to be appealing to my eye to be my lover otherwise I can't get it up

Those are your words Billy not mine. Your words do not repulse or disturb me if that was what you were trying to do. You just don't impress me much, in any regard

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #82 on: July 29, 2011, 09:48:37 PM »
While the thread has gone completely off the rails, and is interestingly enough being responded to by a bunch of dudes (in an area of the Forum described as "Questions to Russian LADIES"), I think this charge of shallowness is a bit harsh.


Such is the way of fora. My apologies for adding to the side track.


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If sex is not a completely physical act, then what is it?


Wow, how old are you again? Sex can be a number of things. It can certainly be purely a physical act sure. Did I say anywhere that it couldn't? (please, take your time) You can do it yourself and it's pure physical, you can buy you a piece of fat meat at the grocery store and keep it purely physical between you and the meat. You can pay a prostitute and keep it purely physical and business like. None of that is what was the discussion here is it?


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Is there something beyond the physical? Let's leave that up to a Padre. Ok, let's say love is involved.  What is love, if nothing more than a chemical reaction in the brain, which helps genes get passed on through some good old-fashioned baby makin' (queue some Barry White)?  I don't care how great someone's personality is, humans choose the best possible mate, taking into consideration physical and mental attributes, to pass on their genes--or just have some fun.  That's beyond ethical evaluations, such as being shallow; it's unchanging human nature.  Of course, there are unevenly yoked couples out there, but I would argue that coercion, desperation, money, power, or some other factor tipped the scales almost every time.  If the decision to choose a mate was purely based upon mental and physical attributes, a person in the position to choose the best possible mate will do so every time.  Personality is just a small piece of the puzzle.  The pig from Green Acres was a "charming m-effer," as Samuel Jacskon said, but it's still a pig.  ;D   


I wouldn't think most men who have moved beyond adolescence would need this explained to them but I'll give you the short version without calling for the Priest, OK?


Yes, making love between to people in love or merely with just an emotional attachment is much more than just a purely physical act. There is more to sex and love making than your animal instincts to seeking out a mate to bear your children and someone to be your sperm dumpster. So very much more. If you ever have that bond, love and emotional attachment to someone besides yourself, you might be allow to experience it.  ;D

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #83 on: July 29, 2011, 11:12:05 PM »
 
She has to be appealing to my eye to be my lover otherwise I can't get it up.
Faux Pas, remember you highlighting the above quote earlier as it seems to bother you? Since we are on the subject of fat chicks, at what point do they become less appealing to you to the point you can't get intimate with them? Remember the photos of fat chicks posted earlier that some people were going to lose their lunch over? Could you get intimate with those gals? How about tell everyone here your tastes and why it's a good thing instead of telling me I'm shallow? It's in better taste to explain yourself instead of putting others down to make yourself look noble and good.
 
If you can't get down with the fatest woman in the world, then you and I aren't much different since we both have limits and standards. In this case our difference isn't measured in shallowness but in lbs/kgs. Giving people the impression I'm more shallow than you because you can accept more lbs/kgs is ridiculous.
 
Me getting politically incorrect seemed to bother some. Let's get more politically incorrect. Let's go beyond chewing the fat. Why stop at fat? There are many traits, characteristics, and habits among humans that are considered undesirable by the majority. Mental and physical defects, stupidity, uglyness, obesity, addiction to drugs, bad manners, etc....
 
I want a woman with good manners, no addictions to substances, height/weight proportional, intelligent, appealing to my eye, no diseases, and no retardedness. Would you again call me shallow since you can accept the opposite of what I accept? If you can accept the opposite of what I accept from a woman, what do you think people are going to think of you? Not shallow and you a strong intelligent man?
 
If I were to receive comments from my previous posts, I would bet it would be from men instead of women. I'm sure most women would accept what I written previously and agree.
 
If women would willing open their legs to guys, there are plenty of willing guys to go down on them. The reason it's not so easy for men to have sex is because the average woman has higher standards on who they'll allow into their bed than the average man including myself. If you want to get angry at people for having high standards, go get angry at the women. Many guys already do. Maybe you're one of them? I'm sure most women out there have had one or more bad experiences from men who they've rejected.
 
One reason most women want a man with good manners and genes is because he will pass some down to their kids. I've seen some kids from men who had criminal minds. Those kids are wild. Their moms would be what most people call trailer trash. Drugs, alcohol, rudeness, breaking the law seemed to be a big part of their lives. Some people aren't very selective when it comes to choosing a mate.
 
I remember reading a story on a forum from a woman in England who married an American man with autism. She knew he had this mental problem before she married him, said he is emotionally absent from their marriage, spends all his time on the computer, and has acquired 9 hard drives worth of pornography. She is stressing all the time and having breakdowns. Obviously this isn't the marriage she dreamed of.
 
Now you say I'm shallow for not being able to get turned on by fat woman and thus I avoid them but do you applaud that woman for giving that man with less than desirable traits a chance for romance with her or do you call her stupid?
 
Bottom line here is don't marry someone that turns you off one way or another. It's not being shallow, it's being smart.
 
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #84 on: July 29, 2011, 11:41:23 PM »
Billy,

I don't think that FP is saying you are shallow because you want to be be with someone you are physically attracted to. We all want that. But, with most normal people, when we really fall in love with someone, this initial lust, the purely physical attraction that exists at the start of a relationship, transforms into something more emotional that transcends physicality. It probably sounds all gay and effeminate to you I guess, but that primarily physical attraction loses importance in favour of an emotional bonding, and the physical appearance of a partner has far less impact on sexual attraction, even if they change appearance quite drastically over time.

Of course, there's a prerequisite there of emotional availability. Some people are so emotionally unavailable that they will never experience of even understand the above.
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #85 on: July 30, 2011, 12:55:55 AM »
Is all this going to turn into yet another BillyB harangue?

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #86 on: July 30, 2011, 01:28:47 AM »
Which is it?
 
Not so long ago I recall reading about the biggest reason to go to the FSU looking for a wife was for the "eye candy". Younger more beautiful women, even there has been a thread idolizing Hue Heffner.
Now I read that looks are not important in the long run.
Or is it just for the convenience of argument?
 

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #87 on: July 30, 2011, 01:55:35 AM »
Billy,

I don't think that FP is saying you are shallow because you want to be be with someone you are physically attracted to. We all want that. But, with most normal people, when we really fall in love with someone, this initial lust, the purely physical attraction that exists at the start of a relationship, transforms into something more emotional that transcends physicality.

 
Did you not read what I said earlier that started an emotional response from the men here? I said "If my lady becomes overweight, I won't get turned on even if I love her. Let's be real, love alone isn't enough to get horny. Our intimate life will suffer. Not fair to me and not fair to her ....."

 
If my lady gains weight over the course of our relationship, I will have a talk with her about the ramifications. I will even have a talk with her about my dislikes before anything becomes an issue. All men and women should communicate more often in a relationship.


If your wife get to 300, 400, 500 lbs, are you still going to get turned on because you love her? Like I said earlier to FP, our differences are in lbs/kgs, not shallowness.
 

 If you let your bodies boldly go just as the women in the photos earlier, dress sloppy, and if you begin to stink because you are starting to fail at personal hygiene, love is not going to cure your problems. Your physical health is related to your mental health. You let one go down, the truth is both goes down. Your wife will  begin to sleep less with you and maybe not even in the same room. Don't convince me there's importance of emotional bonding over all else. There's more to a relationship than just emotional bonding. It's a package deal. If any of you someday fail your spouse, convince her/him that a failure in your physical appearance or anything for that matter is no big deal. Then see how long that strong emotional bonding lasts.

 
I get great emotional bonding with a woman when she cares about my feelings. I expect to give the same care in return. I certainly am going to take care of my body for my woman besides myself. That is a way of strengthening emotional bonding. Being physically and emotionally healthy is a good thing! I'm sure if the girls voted, they would prefer men that took it seriously when it comes to taking care of their bodies. Do your girls a favor instead of making excuses such as love and emotional bonding will rise above the neglect of your body. Everybody has different metabolisms which change over ones life. Overeating is neglecting ones body. Figure out what is a good intake for the road ahead instead of preparing an excuse.

 
Is all this going to turn into yet another BillyB harangue?


 
Oh, it's my fault? Some guys seem to have a habit of following me or others looking for an opportunity to throw out an insult. I don't have that bad habit but it's somewhat flattering that I have a following here. I thought women were emotional creatures but they are proving to be tougher than men... at least of the Western variety.  The worst thing is that some of you don't even realize you have a problem maintaining your composure compared to the RW here after I make a post. You read what I write, complain it's too long, defensive, wrong and it's my fault after someone insults me that things go to pot. So instead of making a fancy poem on my behalf to piss me off, don't you think it's more productive to tell us what  your limit is BC? 300, 400, 500 lbs or do you agree with others that emotional bonding and love is an excuse or reason to ignore any potential problems physically or mentally developing in a relationship?
 
Which is it?
 
Not so long ago I recall reading about the biggest reason to go to the FSU looking for a wife was for the "eye candy". Younger more beautiful women, even there has been a thread idolizing Hue Heffner.
Now I read that looks are not important in the long run.
Or is it just for the convenience of argument?
 


Glyden, you are a smart man. Looks are important but for convenience of argument for some men here, it isn't important simply because I said it was. It's silly for them to say otherwise when ladies are curiously reading how us men think but their personal grudge against me is more important than the truth. Beauty is a woman's strength and will always be. Women need to take care of their bodies and to be fair to the ladies so does us men.
 
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #88 on: July 30, 2011, 02:01:39 AM »
Which is it?
 
Not so long ago I recall reading about the biggest reason to go to the FSU looking for a wife was for the "eye candy". Younger more beautiful women, even there has been a thread idolizing Hue Heffner.
Now I read that looks are not important in the long run.
Or is it just for the convenience of argument?

Well, not to be repetitive, but I never went looking in the FSU in the first place. ;)

If anyone is so shallow that a person's physical look is the primary reason they marry and stay married, then they deserve what they get in the long run as most people will change. Ageing is inevitable.

But it's understandable that looks are a large component of initial attraction for most people. Personally, purely physical form seems to be less important and "sexiness" more so. It's not easy to define what "sexiness" means to me; I guess it has a lot to do with body language and personality.

Attraction is not a cognitive process and it's difficult if not impossible to control but the emotional bond between most loving couples tends to transcend the physical in the long run. "Love is blind" can be quite literal.

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #89 on: July 30, 2011, 02:08:31 AM »

Did you not read what I said earlier that started an emotional response from the men here? I said "If my lady becomes overweight, I won't get turned on even if I love her. Let's be real, love alone isn't enough to get horny. Our intimate life will suffer. Not fair to me and not fair to her ....."

 
If my lady gains weight over the course of our relationship, I will have a talk with her about the ramifications. I will even have a talk with her about my dislikes before anything becomes an issue. All men and women should communicate more often in a relationship.


Yes, I read it Billy as I've read other posts by you and that is why I've formed an opinion that you are an insecure and emotionally damaged man with the maturity of a spoiled adolescent.
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #90 on: July 30, 2011, 02:58:37 AM »
Yes, I read it Billy as I've read other posts by you and that is why I've formed and opinion that you are an insecure and emotionally damaged man with the maturity of a spoiled adolescent.

The truth shall set you free. It's important that people understand you and a few others are arguing with the poster(me) and not what has been posted. I can say 2+2=4 yet some of you will find a way to prove me wrong since you hold a past grudge. But if you really believe love and emotional bonding will protect you, go out and prove it. Gain 200lbs. Love may blind your wife but there is a limit in lbs/kgs. It's hard to be blind when the refrigerator is empty and there is a 400 lb pig in the room. Your wife will probably divorce you not just because weight you gained but because you're sick in the head for letting yourself get that way.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, beware. If you neglect your bodies, you are neglecting and disrespecting your partner. Neglect can break bonds and you can't love someone you don't respect.
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #91 on: July 30, 2011, 03:34:07 AM »

The truth shall set you free. It's important that people understand you and a few others are arguing with the poster(me) and not what has been posted. I can say 2 2=4 yet some of you will find a way to prove me wrong since you hold a past grudge. But if you really believe love and emotional bonding will protect you, go out and prove it. Gain 200lbs. Love may blind your wife but there is a limit in lbs/kgs. It's hard to be blind when the refrigerator is empty and there is a 400 lb pig in the room. Your wife will probably divorce you not just because weight you gained but because you're sick in the head for letting yourself get that way.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, beware. If you neglect your bodies, you are neglecting and disrespecting your partner. Neglect can break bonds and you can't love someone you don't respect.

The problem with your argument Billy is that you almost always talk about unlikely extremes. So yes, I will agree that most people have limits but there are other factors at work here and I would also argue that if there was such a disconnect between a couple that one would gain such enormous amounts of weight without regard for their partner, there would usually have to be something else wrong with the relationship. And yes, in these extreme cases, attraction would probably suffer for most people, but perhaps this would not only be due to the weight gain but because of the underlying causes. I say this as weight gain in itself doesn't seem to effect the attraction amongst all couples. Anyway, your 100Kg weight gain examples are going to be rare even in the US, certainly so in Europe, so it's a silly argument.

But getting back to your constant harping, I'd say your idea of an acceptable weight gain threshold is fairly low and your view of what is "attractive" is superficial. That you so easily dismiss the emotional component of attraction in a loving long term relationship just reinforces my view that you are immature and emotionally damaged or unavailable.
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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #92 on: July 30, 2011, 04:04:02 AM »

Oh, it's my fault? Some guys seem to have a habit of following me or others looking for an opportunity to throw out an insult. I don't have that bad habit but it's somewhat flattering that I have a following here. I thought women were emotional creatures but they are proving to be tougher than men... at least of the Western variety.  The worst thing is that some of you don't even realize you have a problem maintaining your composure compared to the RW here after I make a post. You read what I write, complain it's too long, defensive, wrong and it's my fault after someone insults me that things go to pot. So instead of making a fancy poem on my behalf to piss me off, don't you think it's more productive to tell us what  your limit is BC? 300, 400, 500 lbs or do you agree with others that emotional bonding and love is an excuse or reason to ignore any potential problems physically or mentally developing in a relationship?


Billy, I really don't take you that seriously, youare an actor seeking a stage.  The last posts here would easily fit into your own thread and I hope they do migrate there as they are OT.  If you don't even have the ability to chuckle at yourself it's your problem, no skin off my back.

To answer your question, If my wife ballooned to 300, 400, 500 lbs it would be something I would simply have to learn to deal with.  Life often presents unexpected challenges.  Maybe I will balloon, or like a great looking friend from AF days loose half my face in a horrible accident.  His wife left.  I don't want a marriage like that. Your ideals are einbahnstrasse without cognizance that within your relationship the risk factor of you becoming even more physically unappealing is much greater and will happen fairly quick in relative terms.  You expound with long breath about all those invisible qualities you possess that make your magick with women, instead of facing the fact that you are a middle aged man with receding hairline and a growing belly.  Test your physical appeal on hotornot.com to find out how many teens find you physically appealing. 

Lets hope your future wife does not share your views on this topic.. after all I have seen pretty ducklings in their teens turn into fairly bland women and ugly ducklings in their teens turn to very sexy, beautiful women.

You are counting your chicks long before they hatch.


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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #93 on: July 30, 2011, 05:43:40 AM »
Well, not to be repetitive, but I never went looking in the FSU in the first place. ;)

If anyone is so shallow that a person's physical look is the primary reason they marry and stay married, then they deserve what they get in the long run as most people will change. Ageing is inevitable.

But it's understandable that looks are a large component of initial attraction for most people. Personally, purely physical form seems to be less important and "sexiness" more so. It's not easy to define what "sexiness" means to me; I guess it has a lot to do with body language and personality.

Attraction is not a cognitive process and it's difficult if not impossible to control but the emotional bond between most loving couples tends to transcend the physical in the long run. "Love is blind" can be quite literal.

Sorry about that Ade, in my abbreviated writting style I didn't mean for it to be directed at you personally. I am talking about threads where the majority of people say they are looking for younger, more attractive spouses.
 
I do believe that mutual physical attraction is important in a relationship. One must be realistic as well, when aging. Men who are not realistic end up "trading the old model for a new one" as we often read about and that is not love.

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #94 on: July 30, 2011, 05:57:38 AM »
 :ROFL:


Geez Billy, what a rant. You said a helluva lot of nothing. I'm not surprised and I have come to expect nothing less from you. Maybe you should pass around the collection plate and we'll call this the "religion of Billy". This way you might actually be able to define this "imaginary following". Over on the "Be Billy Strong penis" thread anyone who read or responded was in the Billy following too. With your logic everyone who posts on an RWD thread is there as part of your following and there to insult you. Your ignorance and arrogance knows no bounds.


Your last post to me is nothing but a tangent and doesn't address anything in my previous post to you. Just more Billy bravado, ad hominem and strawman.



A bit defensive are we?  :o  You made the statement Billy, is this a crawfish? Where did I mention anything about being repulsed? Was making love to a women who was repulsive anywhere in the flow of the topic? Repulsive women and prostitutes? Is this a Freudian slip on your part?


If your happiness in sex is making "your partner happy" why the difficulty in "getting it up" if she doesn't appeal to your eye? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth there stud.  :D Should your pending marriage last 10-15 years what will happen when your brides tits sag, she puts on 40 pounds and no longer appeals to your eye? Do you stop having sex with her?


Those are your words Billy not mine. Your words do not repulse or disturb me if that was what you were trying to do. You just don't impress me much, in any regard


Address this post Billy or just STFU  :rolleyes:

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #95 on: July 30, 2011, 07:38:42 AM »
Which is it?
 
Not so long ago I recall reading about the biggest reason to go to the FSU looking for a wife was for the "eye candy". Younger more beautiful women, even there has been a thread idolizing Hue Heffner.
Now I read that looks are not important in the long run.
Or is it just for the convenience of argument?

I think we all know what that answer is Glydden >:D Invariably men go overseas (or marry women who find them from overseas), because they can get younger and/or more attractive women than they could date at home. However, it would be ill-advised to marry a woman solely for her looks without compatibility, in the same way that it would be foolhardy IMHO to marry a woman where there was not physical attraction.

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #96 on: July 30, 2011, 09:04:18 AM »
I think we all know what that answer is Glydden >:D Invariably men go overseas (or marry women who find them from overseas), because they can get younger and/or more attractive women than they could date at home. However, it would be ill-advised to marry a woman solely for her looks without compatibility, in the same way that it would be foolhardy IMHO to marry a woman where there was not physical attraction.

Invariably, people will make generalisations about why men marry FSUW. Strangely, some men just find a woman they can't live without and they just happen to be Russian and just happen to be younger than them. Perhaps that is more common over here though so I can't blame you for extrapolating from personal experience.  >:D

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #97 on: July 30, 2011, 09:52:17 AM »
Invariably, people will make generalisations about why men marry FSUW. Strangely, some men just find a woman they can't live without and they just happen to be Russian and just happen to be younger than them. Perhaps that is more common over here though so I can't blame you for extrapolating from personal experience.  >:D

Ade, who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself? It reeks of self-delusion. I believe it is a safe bet to say that if a woman who happened to be your age or older and just happened to be much heavier than average wrote you on Match.com or whatever site that you were using that you never have happened to rush off to Arkhangelsk.... As much as you try to spin it, you are no different than any of the men who seek or who marry women from Russia.

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #98 on: July 30, 2011, 10:11:34 AM »
Ade, who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself? It reeks of self-delusion. I believe it is a safe bet to say that if a woman who happened to be your age or older and just happened to be much heavier than average wrote you on Match.com or whatever site that you were using that you never have happened to rush off to Arkhangelsk.... As much as you try to spin it, you are no different than any of the men who seek or who marry women from Russia.

Think what you like, I'm certainly not going to spend any time convincing you otherwise.

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Re: "Why don't you just date an American woman?"
« Reply #99 on: July 30, 2011, 10:13:15 AM »
Think what you like, I'm certainly not going to spend any time convincing you otherwise.

Sure, stick to someone you can convince: yourself.

 

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