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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #125 on: April 13, 2007, 11:25:36 AM »
Olga,

Based on your reading of the antidate - Bill thread, is the following correct:

1. none of the FSUW that are posting about him are women that he met in FSU, and

2. all of their negative judgment on Bill is based solely on what Bill posted here on RWD or other discussion forums about his trip(s) to FSU.

Also, a question - if #2 above is correct what exactly is it about his trip reports that is the basis for their judgment? a reference to condoms? Also, do they accuse him of being a sex tourist? if so, based on what? just packing condoms?

Thank you for clarifying.

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2007, 11:51:56 AM »
My understanding is that Bill is accused merely because of the fact that he has  posted a report about his search for a wife for general public. Further, the antidate members tell that the general tone of his report shows disrespect to Russian women and is destructive for their reputation abroad. Also one woman said that she is going to monitor other trip reports to look for other candidates to blacklist.
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« Reply #127 on: April 13, 2007, 11:57:48 AM »
WmGO I will send you a PM

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #128 on: April 13, 2007, 12:01:30 PM »
    It really bothers me that this has happened to Bill. He obviously does not deserve it. I am trying to figure out how it happened. Bill says he did not give the RWD site  to anyone he went out with. I cannot read much Russian, but I do note a reference in one of the lady's posts that references a part of Bill's pre trip report listing items he is taking, specifically condoms. Any sane rational and responsible man will always take them wherever he travels, especially the FSU where HIV is rampant. I am trying to figure out if that or some other reason exists for Bill being marked like this.     This is a very serious and dangerous precedent if he is being hung out based not on what he did there but rather what he posted here about taking condoms....Legal, what do you know about this?

you are so funny, cutie
don't you think that you can buy condoms in Russia if you will have some "chemistry" lol. Or you think Russia is so wild country that you will hardly find any condom here?
Why should you bring them if you have only serious intention, and not involved in sex-tourism?
also I dare quting post from another baord, as I did it on antidate

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I was going to mention to you about you being pegged as such a little earlier, but I figured your T/R is all over the internet, and whatever backlash that stemmed from it will likely get back to you sooner than later.
As for the allegation of you being a sex tourist, you tell us you're not, and maybe that is the case; but from the ladies' viewpoint, maybe it's a bit harder to believe. If anyone read your T/R, they'll find how incredibly easy it is to assume you had sex with most, if not all, of the women..
How? First, your T/R is laced with you going out with multiple women. 2) You seem to be talking quite a bit about attractive women that were making your head spin....then, 3) You posted pictures of some of the women.....then, 4) You write this as part of must bring list:
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Quote:Condoms, did you ever need one and not have one? It is not a good feeling.
Chap Stick to keep those lips kissable and works for hang nails too
I'm not saying you are a sex tourist, nor imply it; but you haven't exactly gone out of your way to make sure people didn't get the wrong impression about you either...
I hope these all get sorted out for you...

also my point of view that seems none of you don't want to notice

Your TR is ruined RW's reputation more and more. Your RP encurage other sex-turist come to Russia and do the same like you did. Well, you have been not successful шт your plans, but if xomeone will fallow advices of your fellow WmGO what will be then. You, americans already made anything for turning us into this shitty situation. So we cannot let you turn out Russian into International brothel as it happened with Thailand, and we don't let you think about our women like about the easy of approach dolls
Those old time is over. Each of you who don't respect us in general will be blacklisted

as for m-me Olga, I suppose at first she could learn good manners before try to be prosperous with diplomacy
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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #129 on: April 13, 2007, 12:47:29 PM »

Those old time is over. Each of you who don't respect us in general will be blacklisted


After seeing the misinterpretations, misrepresentations, and overall gossipy mentality over absolutely *nothing* you and your feeding frenzied followers have pulled out of your popkas, I have zero "general respect" for you or your minions at all.  I respect Russia and Russian ladies immensely, but, I have zero respect for any of you.

2tallbill didn't even have sex on his trip.... 

but *I* sure did...

I bought condoms - "preservatifs" - in Russia, they are right there with the bubble gum and candy, right???  and I used them with absolute happiness, joy, blissful delight, and with all the gusto and majestic grace I could throw into it - spawning round after round after round after round after round of orgasmic ecstasy.  Oh, and the Russian lady seemed to like it too... better get her on that list "Treason" list.

Feel free to blacklist me as well.  I'm obviously  ::) (rolling eyes) ::) a sex tourist.

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #130 on: April 13, 2007, 12:53:35 PM »
you are so funny, cutie
don't you think that you can buy condoms in Russia if you will have some "chemistry" lol. Or you think Russia is so wild country that you will hardly find any condom here?
Why should you bring them if you have only serious intention, and not involved in sex-tourism?

Hmmm... for all my trip, i take toilet paper ( lavendel parfum ), coffee ( moka ) and condom ( fruity parfum )... so, i am maybe a sex tourist !

About condom in Russia... at the market, several are out of date... and i don't wish that they break down during use... having some chemistry generally happen at night... not a lot of Russian city have night shop... i imagine the scene... your are in the sofa with your darling, thing become slowly hot, you take your winter clothes and go outside trying to find condom after midnight, when you are back, she is away... of course, some in the fire of passion will not use condom... and one russian woman pregnant !!!

Before complain about western men, i am curious to know how much Russian men have condom in their wallet... ok, i give you a advantage, you can count the married one... hmmm, not sure that it is a advantage since it seem that some russian men are unfaithfull...

Western men making Russia like a brothel... maybe you need first clean before your door... if Russian women was not promoting themself on the internet, no visitor... if some of them was not showing more skin that a American porno star, no sex tourist... some western men are sex tourist but who promote themself on the internet in a provocative way... the same about previous problem where you are shock by old men visiting young ladies... why the sexy young RW who is only 20 year old seek a man who is between 40 year and 60 year old...

Yes, these sex tourist are bad but your girls attract them !!!

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2007, 12:58:52 PM »
I totally disagree with you Kvinna

First about condoms surely you think it is wise to use them. Honestly you can't be serious as to think that it is unwise to bring them. Of course I know that there are condoms in Russia. But I had problems buying milk for crying out load!!

I know exactly what the English word for them is. I know exactly where to buy them. I don't want to imagine the experience of trying to pantomime what a condom is in a shop that doesn't sell them to a poor Russian lady who works there!!!

Could you imagine going into a store that might not even sell condoms and ask for them???? not knowing the word for them ????

Lets imagine how I would explain this to a young shop keeping girl without being super vulgar.

Ok It's not impossible to do this. I would type condoms in my estaco translator and show it to someone and hope for the best. But bringing them is a ten thousand times better idea. First you have them and you know where they are. Imagine that after meeting a woman many many times and she and you both feel passion come up and you both decide that this is the time. Then is the time to start learning the Russian word for condoms???? and what shops sell them???
and please honey stay in that mood while I go shopping for condoms???

Give me a break! Bring them with you thats why they are on the list! If you don't find love, if you don't have a use for them then you bring them back home. But planning to not find love is like planning to fail at it!!

Maybe you could say don't be crass, you did not need to put it on the list all men know to have these things when they need them. Well maybe you would have a point about that. But to call a man who is being responsible and advising others not to be stupid enough not to have a condom when its needed is beyond rational thought!!!

Putting a man on a black list with sexual predators, child pornographers, married men, etc for telling men to be responsible and bring condoms is defeating the purpose of having a list of bad men.

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #132 on: April 13, 2007, 01:13:42 PM »


as for m-me Olga, I suppose at first she could learn good manners before try to be prosperous with diplomacy

Kvinna-Lilya,

How have you named yourself on forum.antidate? B!tch? Where are your good manners when you posts BS about men and their photos on forum.antidate without any real proofs?

This is your quoter:
other version
мал, да еблив

After it you have said me about my good manners and diplomacy...   :mooning:

Olga.
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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #133 on: April 13, 2007, 01:14:13 PM »
Putting a man on a black list with sexual predators, child pornographers, married men, etc for telling men to be responsible and bring condoms is defeating the purpose of having a list of bad men.
Bill

how offten you advise to bring condoms in public board when someone is going to visit Italy for example&
Or maybe you don't feel so hard asking italian young shop keeper girl to salle you a condom?

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Western men making Russia like a brothel... maybe you need first clean before your door... if Russian women was not promoting themself on the internet, no visitor... if some of them was not showing more skin that a American porno star, no sex tourist... some western men are sex tourist but who promote themself on the internet in a provocative way... the same about previous problem where you are shock by old men visiting young ladies... why the sexy young RW who is only 20 year old seek a man who is between 40 year and 60 year old...
Will your next step be apology of rapists?
Yes, we have a lot of problems with promoting themselves but it doesn't give the rights to describe most russians girls like object for male sexusal fantasies.
Bill's tr is mostly good advertising for sex-tourists and that was our general point



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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #134 on: April 13, 2007, 01:18:28 PM »
Kvinna, i have a new photo of Bill for you... you can post it on antidate... unfortunaly, it show that Bill don't use condom for having sex with Russian women... it is only part of his casual costume...

 :ROFL:  :ROFL:  :ROFL:

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #135 on: April 13, 2007, 01:37:56 PM »
how offten you advise to bring condoms in public board when someone is going to visit Italy?

Every single time I know someone is going to Italy specifically to meet a girl and could possibly develop relations which would lead in that direction.

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Will your next step be apology of rapists?

Absolutely ridiculous attempt to equate  or even compare someone sincerely searching for a life partner with a rapist.  Absurd.

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Yes, we have a lot of problems with promoting themselves but it doesn't give the rights to describe most russians girls like object for male sexusal fantasies.
Bill's tr is mostly good advertising for sex-tourists and that was our general point

You could have a general point, which I, as an American man would have been able to understand and accept.  However, your behavior is that of a terrorist by holding someone's reputation hostage until your "demands" are met.  This behavior is a disgrace to Russia and a shame to the Russian women you claim to represent...

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #136 on: April 13, 2007, 03:02:41 PM »
Kvinna,

I would make a joke and say that Bill had to bring his own condoms because Russia does not sell extra-large preservatives.  However, this is a serious matter.  It troubles  Bill, and if what he says is true, it is unjust.

Unlike Blacklists for Russian women scammers, you did allow Bill to file an objection in writing and you posted it.  Thus, if any future women in Bill’s life find his name on your site, they can at least read his version and decide for themselves.  I commend your site for allowing such.

I just reread Bill’s trip report, I see two versions.

Version I - He leaves some things mostly unstated, except for one comment “things begin to develop that are not proper for a gentleman to write about in a public forum” (more on that later).  And dependent upon a person’s perspective, someone could infer that he and she were busy as minks. At least the opportunity presented itself for such on unknown number of occasions.  And he did write that he had more books and chocos in his apartment in case a woman was interested.  This perhaps would encourage real sex tourists to attempt the same who would not leave anything in doubt.   I hope this is what alarms you the most. 

Version II - Another person could read his report and draw the conclusion that Russian women are finicky, teasers, cold and/or deceivers.  The examples:  RW No. 1 attracts him to make a trip just to see her, which he does and upon his arrival things fall apart.  My experience is that if a RW likes a man, she will find a way to keep him. This sounds as if she jilted him.  He then attempted to revive his trip by meeting women for short dates to drink coffee.  He likes RW No. 2  but learns she is married (the one where “things begin to develop…”).  This bothers him, and a real sex tourist would care less if a woman is married or not.  He eventually develops a fondness for RW No. 3, and after the trip she tells him to forget it.  Most of the meetings with RW end with a “paka” and a kiss on the cheek.  What man would want to fly 10,000 miles to meet such cold women?

So you and your Antidate collaborators could infer anything.  You task is a noble one, as indeed there are sex predators out there who need to be stopped.  Are you certain Bill is one?

Some other questions:

I would think most RW would find his joke silly about pronouncing English and Russian words and being a good kisser.  How many of your Antidate women would consider that as a viable sexual ploy?

Do you have a grey list?

Do you have a definition of the term “sex tourist”?  One should be developed because the term is used frequently.   
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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #137 on: April 13, 2007, 03:28:38 PM »
Never mind
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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #138 on: April 13, 2007, 03:38:48 PM »
The fact of the matter is this was all started by a woman who felt she was jilted and she wanted her vengeance. Bill you are a decent man from what I am told by good friend of mine and Olga's in Saint Petersburg. Look at it this way it is your And Warhol Moment.



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« Reply #139 on: April 13, 2007, 04:28:17 PM »
Kvinna,

It is certainly a noble cause to try to look out for your country and it's women. However, in doing so you are morally obligated to  follow some kind of code of ethics. Admittedly, until reading this thread  yesterday I had never even heard of your website. But what I can tell so far, including my reading of your post, is that it appears that you do not have any kind of ethical standards or guidelines for posting a man on your "blacklist" . Granted, in looking at the photos of the men on your site, most of them do really look like bad people. However to be legitimate you must have some kind of standards that prevent innocent men from being slandered. That is supposed to mean a report by at least one, and really at least two, aggrieved women.

You now say that "anyone who does not respect us will be blacklisted." That is a morally bankrupt standard. And it reflects very poorly on you and your country. As stated above, blacklisting by definition should be based on proof and confirmation of specific wrongdoing, not feeling or the lack of feeling of "respect."

Of course, I would agree that if a man is posting trip reports bragging about having sexual relations with multiple women then yes they have confessed to improprieties. Speaking for myself, I do not approve of that. In my country I am what folks would refer to as a "religious conservative." So I can completely relate to what you are trying to do with your website. However, let me also say this so that you can have an understanding about my country: for the past 20 or so years, ever since the HIV reality reared it's ugly head, the government, the schools, doctors, civic leaders and yes peoples parents, have been sounding the alarm about HIV (and unplanned pregnancy) and therefore have been very vocal for people to use condoms - and to make sure they are available when needed. So in American culture, it is just considered by most people to be normal and expected for men to have them, even when they travel. Yes, if everyone obeyed God's laws, there would be no need for them. But it is not a perfect world. And you are not obeying God's laws when you blacklist a man with no proof or threaten to blacklist men who you say "do not respect" you just because they disagree with you. You purport to be doing some kind of moral service for your country, but without moral and ethical standards you are being hypocritical - and unjust.

I think you are guilty of jumping to a lot of conclusions about this condom thing involving Bill. Admittedly, I don't know him, but from just reading his trip reports I did not see anything that indicated he was behaving like a sex tourist. I think you have treated him very unfair. I respectfully request that you pray about this and ask God to lead you and guide you in the matter of reconsidering the blacklist of Bill.

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #140 on: April 13, 2007, 04:52:06 PM »
Kvinna,

You have many times, on forums, complained about anti-scam sites who unjustly list FSU women for minor reasons or without evidence but it seems you and the ladies at anti-date are capable of doing what you abhor. It's hypocrisy and it hurts the credibility of your anti-scam list to start confusing the innocent with the guilty. I hope you would take steps to improve the standards of your anti-scam list to be an example for other anti-scam sites to follow. I hope you would champion the rights of innocent men besides just the women. It'll be a sad place at anti-date when people there judge, convict, and execute men on the basis of those men not respecting FSU women. There are much bigger problems out there to focus on.
Fund the audits, spread the word and educate people, write your politicians and other elected officials. Stay active in the fight to save our country. Over 220 generals and admirals say we are in a fight for our survival like no other time since 1776.

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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #141 on: April 13, 2007, 04:58:09 PM »
I am to the understanding that Russia has a very difficult problem with aids. I remember Julia Roberts and I think the Rolling stones were doing some fund raising benefits for a Russian woman with aids that started an aids  organization in Saint Petersburg.  The world is more aware now and it is an individual responsibility and I think Bill just showed the world he was trying to be responsible not only to himself but to the woman he mite encounter.  Also to answer Kvinna when I went and lived in Italy my friend discussed the very fact about bringing condoms with me and to practice safe sex, another German friend states the same thing. You could also advocate this on your board if you really wanted to help those woman.
 WmGO you are absolutely correct and hopefully some good can come out of this and just maybe   Kvinna, will do some good as she so adamantly advocates we will just have to watch and see.


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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #142 on: April 13, 2007, 06:34:40 PM »
...when I went and lived in Italy my friend discussed the very fact about bringing condoms with me and to practice safe sex...
Every single time I know someone is going to Italy specifically to meet a girl and could possibly develop relations which would lead in that direction.

LEGAL & Daveman, I shall soon open an Italian Anti-Date, and you'll be its first Black List entries, because you DARED to discuss bringing those things over here, thereby severely damaging the reputation of Italian women, as well as hurting the legitimate business interests of the Italian latex industry >:(.

And, by the way, you Americans are also responsible for polluting our beautiful language : one of the many Italian terms for condom is goldone, originating from the fact that G.I.s disembarking in Italy in WWII were given those self-defense weapons in Army-issue, golden-coloured wrappers ;D ;D ;D.

But let's get back to Russia :
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Russian Doctor Launches Fancy Condoms for Demanding Clients - MosNews
A Moscow-based doctor has launched production of individually tailored condoms, according to a report posted by Ananova.com. Moscow urologist Dr Pyotr Pomozov started making condoms to order after a number of patients complained they had problems finding ones that fitted.
(http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/11/07/condoms.shtml for the full article). So, maybe bringing your own to Russia is not a bad idea, after all, particularly if you cannot spare the time for a fitting session :D.

And now, for the benefit of history buffs:
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Legend has it that the condom was the creation of one Dr.Condom, during the reign of King Charles II (1660-1685) . it is believed that the King, alarmed at the number of his illegitimate children, publicised his need for a device to prevent pregnency. His court physician, named Condom,then invented the condom. Earlier,in Europe,it was recommended as a prophylactic measure against venereal diseases in the sixteenth century. The Italian physician Falloppio,in 1564,was the first to recommend the use of a linen sheath moistened with a lotion,as a protection against venereal diseases. In 1597, Hercule Saxonia published a description of a modified version, impregnated with inorganic salts and allowed to dry. The word "Condom" was derived from the Latin word "Condus" meaning a receptacle. Interestingly, while the French referred to it as "La capote anglaise", the English termed it the "French letter" (envelope). In the eighteenth century it was known as "Preservative", "Machine" or "Armour". Condoms in those days were made of caeca of sheep or other animals. Its use became very popular in England and was mentioned in the erotic poetry of the time. The famous English writer Boswell wrote in his London Journal on 10th May 1763 that he "picked up a strong young jolly damsel, led her to Westminister Bridge and there, in "Armour" complete, did I enjoy her upon this noble edifice". In the 1890s rubber was introduced for the manufacture of condoms and from the 1930s latex condoms have been in use.
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Re: Trippin in St Pete
« Reply #143 on: April 13, 2007, 06:47:58 PM »
Ah Sandro Gratci Gratci mucho amore and baci baci to all the donde bella senorinas in Italy
OK Sandro I know I butchered the language, but I can speak some Italian and like French and Russian it is very romantic to me :blowkiss:


Sandro thats the business we should be in that is a money maker the custom condom company!  Any takers  :usdeyes:
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« Reply #144 on: April 13, 2007, 08:16:00 PM »
Sandro,

Let me take a guess.  Did your good Dr. Falloppio in his research of human reproduction discover tubes connecting ovaries to the uterus?  The egotist probably named them after himself.  Instead he could have used his name for the linen sheath, and we would be calling them Falloppians rather than condoms or preservatives.  Do you also know the source of the Russian term?   What does it preserve?

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« Reply #145 on: April 13, 2007, 08:26:04 PM »
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Interestingly, while the French referred to it as "La capote anglaise", the English termed it the "French letter" (envelope).

.. and what do the Germans call them?

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der Pariser  condom, rubber ("Parisian")

full circle..  well almost..

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« Reply #146 on: April 14, 2007, 12:03:08 AM »
Kvinna,
Version I - He leaves some things mostly unstated, except for one comment “things begin to develop that are not proper for a gentleman to write about in a public forum” (more on that later).  And dependent upon a person’s perspective, someone could infer that he and she were busy as minks. At least the opportunity presented itself for such on unknown number of occasions.  And he did write that he had more books and chocos in his apartment in case a woman was interested.  This perhaps would encourage real sex tourists to attempt the same who would not leave anything in doubt.   I hope this is what alarms you the most. 

Version II - Another person could read his report and draw the conclusion that Russian women are finicky, teasers, cold and/or deceivers.  The examples:  RW No. 1 attracts him to make a trip just to see her, which he does and upon his arrival things fall apart.  My experience is that if a RW likes a man, she will find a way to keep him. This sounds as if she jilted him.  He then attempted to revive his trip by meeting women for short dates to drink coffee.  He likes RW No. 2  but learns she is married (the one where “things begin to develop…”).  This bothers him, and a real sex tourist would care less if a woman is married or not.  He eventually develops a fondness for RW No. 3, and after the trip she tells him to forget it.  Most of the meetings with RW end with a “paka” and a kiss on the cheek.  What man would want to fly 10,000 miles to Some other questions:

I would think most RW would find his joke silly about pronouncing English and Russian words and being a good kisser.  How many of your Antidate women would consider that as a viable sexual ploy?

Do you have a grey list?

Do you have a definition of the term “sex tourist”?  One should be developed because the term is used frequently.   


OK, here everybody focused on term "sex-touris", but the very first post on that thread says that this old playboy come to Russia and Ukraina without serious intentions, but just for fun. Even more after all he describes his adventures on public board (we know now as minimum 3 forums that are filled with his confession), and teachs other men how to "fish" Russian girls (and general opinion on antidate, that his opus is good manual for sex-touris - maybe from this you caught this term - "sex-tourist").
If you want to know my humble opinion, well, if Bill is sex-touris then he is sex-tourist loser. It is obviously from his text, he would want to deep into this, but his attempt is failed.

Now what we meant on antidate is in this case are 2 levels - personal and general
General is his "novel" encourages the sex-tourists to start out their sexual adventures in Russia - 1.
portraits RW and Russia in not decent colors
Personal level - this guy with his confession alerted all women: to date with him is very dangerous for their integrity and security. Everybody who met him sooner or later will be posted in public board on the Net (btw, most of those who write their TR in such open way are also dangerouse for girls personal security).
Si I suppose we have to warn others if thei don't want to illuminate the Net with their photos and stories, or to find their private letters on some board, they should stay away from this guy
I think it is fair, because now when he feels terrible to find himself on antidate blacklist,, Bill knows exactly what do "his" girls feel finding their photos and stories on 3 board (as minimum).



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« Reply #147 on: April 14, 2007, 12:43:51 AM »
Bull Sh*t

I went to Russia on short notice. I talked with M and we decided to meet. So I did not plan this trip far in advance although I talked with her about meeting for quite some time.

I went to see her WOVO which means to write one and visit one.

I was only planning to meet this one woman!

I did not plan to meet others!

Things did not work out with me and M

You write many things about me that were not my plan at all

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« Reply #148 on: April 14, 2007, 12:46:51 AM »
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You are insulting my girlfriend by saying that she is not a decent woman...

Before write something, better think before... and really, what is your personal problem with antidate ? Each time that we speak about these forum, you are the first to attack... if guys cannot handle antidate, better not go in Russia seeking a wife... on these forum, they are more tender that in reality...
A little sensitive arn't we Bruno??? ::)
First of all I don't recall mentioning your lady at all. I explicitly referred to "the decent women I know"! As I don't know your lady I guess she is not in the equation.
If your going to jump down my throat, get your facts straight.
As for me attacking AntiDate, are you as insane as they are. Everything I read on there is 'Male Bashing'. The same damn thing we hate in western women. Are you telling me your last couple of critical posts of Anti-Date were supporting them. I critisize when I see wrong or injustice & Anti-Date is becoming just as bad as Jim's List & Agency Scams.
I am now going to take the gloves off & lay it on the line. If that offends AntiDate or any others TFB its time to tell it like it is & if you don't like it you can kiss my skinny white a$$!!! If you want a PC opinion don't read any further cause you won't get it. :-*
First of all giving someone the title 'sex tourist' implies that he came here for the sole purpose of getting sex, which Bill wasn't & didn't.
I am of the firm opinion that even if he or any other man was, so what. Are you women not mature enough or responsible enough to accept your part in this little game. Very simple, you don't want to be used by a 'sex tourist' DON'T TAKE YOUR PANTIES OFF!!!!
I am so tired of women always blaming the men. Cannot you keep your panties on until your wedding night? Would sure discourage the 'sex tourist' wouldn't it? Quit balming us for your lack of morality & look to yourselves. All you have to do is say, NO!!! Too simple!!! But you see, you don't because you enjoy sex as much as we do & in fact use it as a weapon, a lure & bait to get what you want & when you don't, you blame it on us & call us 'sex tourists'. Well I for one see you as being just as bad & untill you are willing to keep your panties on & say, no, then I am afraid you have no right to b!tch about it later!!!
If you can & do do that then there can be no 'sex tourists', right? Too friggin' simple. Its called taking responsibility for your own actions which women in general are loath to do when it comes to sex. It always has been & always will be the mans fault because the woman can't keep her panties on!!! ::) ::)
And don't give me the age old bull about how convincing he was or he talked me into it. It takes two to tango & when you accept that you accept responsibility for your own actions. The fact remains THAT WOMEN ARE JUST AS AT FAULT AS MEN BUT REFUSE TO ADMIT IT & TAKE THIER LUMPS just like they insist we must!!
Get a life & grow up!!!
Flame away, I'm ready for your damn BBQ!!! At least I'll get roasted for telling the truth that too many others are thinking but too afraid to voice!!!
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« Reply #149 on: April 14, 2007, 12:51:52 AM »
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You write many things about me that were not my plan at all
Surely that does not surprise you Bill. They will never take responsibility for their actions, its not in their makeup.
Its always the mans fault, even when they willingly participate!!! ::)
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