So which one of you ran off all the women here?

[GregfromGa]

I remember back in the old days there would be women that would stop by from time to time.

[Shadow]

I remember back in the old days there would be women that would stop by from time to time.

In those days some men would actually listen to what they had to say.

[Anotherkiwi]

vwrw posted a couple of days ago.    Abashka posted within the last few days as well (in the "Moscow Taxi" thread), and Ludmila posted something a week or two ago.  Apart from them, even Lily has gone silent.    Boethius stopped posting months ago, although she still logs in.  pitbull got pissed off and disappeared after some nonsense in Miquel's gun control thread.  mies hasn't been around for a while, either.

The biggest loss of the FSU residents, though (by far), is Ghost of Moon Goddess.

When you list them like this, however, you realise just how few there really are (or were).

[BillyB]

I remember back in the old days there would be women that would stop by from time to time.

 There are a lot of pussies on this forum.

[mendeleyev]

The conflict (that supposedly doesn't exist) in Ukraine drew sharp lines, as it should have quite frankly.

Russians like to ask questions, but often are offended by the answers if you dare to be candid. If you'd like to experience it in person, sit down with one for tea or meet on the street.

Such a conversation may sound like this:

Rus: So, what do you think about the shooting down of MH-17?

West: Ah, it was horrible. Terrible tragedy.

Rus: Why does the Western media try to blame Russia?

West: Why does the Russian media try to blame Ukraine?

Rus: Oh, so you have been brainwashed by your own media, I see. We know it was Ukraine--they shot it down in order to blame Russia.

West: Ah, so you know this. I'm curious: then why did embedded reporters with your own LIfeNews TV Network claim it was the work of pro-Russian rebels (coal miners who wouldn't know the first thing about operating a BUK system), but then disavowed responsibility after discovering that instead of a military transport, it was a passenger airliner?

Rus: That is just Western propaganda.

West: No, it was your own television reporters on LifeNews, not to mention that even your own photo blogger community was up in arms about doctored "evidence" by the Kremlin.

Rus: You hate Russia and never have anything good to say about my country.


Or, you can have this conversation:

Rus: How are the race riots in America today?

West: Enlighten me please.

Rus: I see them every day on the First Channel. Cops are beating college students and blacks in Ohio, Nebraska, and Maine.

West: Oh, you mean those black and white reruns from the 1960s that are aired nightly on Russian TV.

Rus: They're not reruns. It is happening now. There was a riot against the cops in Washington this morning.

West: Not reruns? Then why do they look like b&w film that has been colourized by amateurs? And, why is everyone dressed in clothing styles from the 60s? Those cop hats are pretty retro, right?

Rus: Our television technicians are not amateurs. The film looks bad because it goes thru x-ray machines at the airport.

West: Have your crack TV technicians heard of Satellite digital feeds yet?


Or, we might have (and I have) this conversation:

Rus: Why do Americans say that our army is in Ukraine?

West: Hmm....maybe because it is?

Rus: Those are lies. Besides, we have television reports of English speaking soldiers fighting for Ukraine. They are Americans who speak perfect English.

West: Yeah, I've seen those too. The only issue I have is that they have terrible English accents. Frankly, their English sounds horrible to someone who is a native speaker. Their sentence structure, pronunciation, and bad grammar sounds just like a Russian who has studied English for a few months. Wonder why that might be?

Rus: Those are really American soldiers in Ukrainian uniforms while pretending to be Russians who speak bad English. You are just trying to make Russia look bad. Everyone in the West hates Russia.


Or, you might have this conversation:

Rus: America wants to defeat Russia and take over our natural resources.

West: The cost, both financially and in human lives, is more than your oil and metals are worth. We could take a loan from China, buy Saudi Arabia for less money and with less hassle, and then pay back the Chinese with cheap oil.

Rus: You want to force Russia to return Crimea to Ukraine, sell our premium Russian oil to you for cheap dollars, and enslave our freedom loving people to work as cooks and dishwashers in your hamburger restaurants.

West: Nah, you guys don't know how to wash dishes. I often wonder why dish soap is even sold in markets when it seems that you think a dash of hot water will do. How's that good ole Ruble doing these days?

Rus: You want to surround Russia with NATO bases.

West: Ahem, I guess Putin didn't think about that when he leased an airbase in Ulyanovsk to NATO in 2012?

Rus: That is a lie. It never happened. More Western propaganda.

West: Then your own media is lying too. And your Duma, which at first opposed the deal.

Rus: Okay, I vaguely remember reading about it, but it was only temporary.

West: Correct, NATO found it to be too expensive because Russia insisted that only approved Russian contractors (Oligarchs) could service the planes. Both sides agreed to cancel the contract after Russian media began to write about the deal.

Rus: That doesn't change the fact that NATO wants to kill all Russians, and take our potatoes.

West: Potatoes? I thought it was the oil...

[Gator]

vwrw posted a couple of days ago.    Abashka posted within the last few days as well (in the "Moscow Taxi" thread), and Ludmila posted something a week or two ago.  Apart from them, even Lily has gone silent.    Boethius stopped posting months ago, although she still logs in.  pitbull got pissed off and disappeared after some nonsense in Miquel's gun control thread.  mies hasn't been around for a while, either.

The biggest loss of the FSU residents, though (by far), is Ghost of Moon Goddess.

When you list them like this, however, you realise just how few there really are (or were).

Don't forget Aloe, BluesFairy, DonnaPedro, Oooooops, Ranetka, and MissAmeno.   They always had something insightful and interesting to say.  Some were witty.   

There were many over the 14 years of my experience with RW forums.  After referring to a member list, I name more in no particular order: JazzyClassy (wrote with an open heart), Vasilisa (looking for love), AnastassiaAsh,  Avis, Brave Girl (tried to help me find love), Olga, Rina (who met her husband at RWD), Legal's wife (is she Olga?), Fashionista (witty), Doll (aka PITA), Ludmila, pokerintherear (maybe not a RW but should be with that name), RussianWind,  Serebro (expressed a few misgivings), Sia (she opened her heart and told all), WildOrchid, Zhena, Zmejka (so polite or was it Zhena), and the strong pro-Putin woman Manny....There were others and my memory is failing me.

The RW were superb resources, especially for open-minded newbies attempting to understand RW.   Our RW members were especially adroit at telling idiots they were idiots in a manner that the idiots understood.   

I miss the RW posters, yet I receive am ample serving at home now.

Kiwi - sent you a PM.

[JayH]

The conflict (that supposedly doesn't exist) in Ukraine drew sharp lines, as it should have quite frankly.

Russians like to ask questions, but often are offended by the answers if you dare to be candid. If you'd like to experience it in person, sit down with one for tea or meet on the street.

Such a conversation may sound like this:

Mende--I did not realise we have so many acquaintances known to both of us !

[JayH]

Don't forget Aloe, BluesFairy, DonnaPedro, Oooooops, Ranetka, and MissAmeno.   They always had something insightful and interesting to say.  Some were witty.   

There were many over the 14 years of my experience with RW forums.  After referring to a member .

In some cases life has moved on for them.In some cases mentioned in your post  I/we have heard from them after some long absences.That also applies to some guys also.
Certainly in some cases over the last 2 years-the drama in Ukraine has been all to real and close to them for some to bother with a lot of forums nonsense.
Life changes and time is short- it is easy to understand.

[Shadow]

In some cases life has moved on for them.In some cases mentioned in your post  I/we have heard from them after some long absences.That also applies to some guys also.
Certainly in some cases over the last 2 years-the drama in Ukraine has been all to real and close to them for some to bother with a lot of forums nonsense.
Life changes and time is short- it is easy to understand.

Most will like MrsShadow be simply tired of politics and discussions where nobody will ever leave their presuppositions.
The RW are simply uninterested what happens, apart from living costs rising they hardly notice.
Probably those who read all links here get more news as those living in Russia....

[alex330]

The RW are simply uninterested what happens, apart from living costs rising they hardly notice.
Probably those who read all links here get more news as those living in Russia....

Yes, even here in the US most are uninterested or prefer not to know what is occurring.

[Anotherkiwi]

Don't forget Aloe, BluesFairy, DonnaPedro, Oooooops, Ranetka, and MissAmeno.   They always had something insightful and interesting to say.  Some were witty.

I hadn't forgotten any of them, although it's a very long time since BluesFairy visited.  Based on what she wrote after her trip to the USA, I think that Aloe's life in Belgium had improved markedly, meaning that she didn't need us as a sounding board any more.

There were many over the 14 years of my experience with RW forums.  After referring to a member list, I name more in no particular order: JazzyClassy (wrote with an open heart), Vasilisa (looking for love), AnastassiaAsh,  Avis, Brave Girl (tried to help me find love), Olga, Rina (who met her husband at RWD), Legal's wife (is she Olga?), Fashionista (witty), Doll (aka PITA), Ludmila, pokerintherear (maybe not a RW but should be with that name), RussianWind,  Serebro (expressed a few misgivings), Sia (she opened her heart and told all), WildOrchid, Zhena, Zmejka (so polite or was it Zhena), and the strong pro-Putin woman Manny....There were others and my memory is failing me.

There were also Olga-H, Olly (now living safely in Queensland, Australia) and of course Mila who, as a commercial member, posts very seldom on anything other than helping people. 

The RW were superb resources, especially for open-minded newbies attempting to understand RW.   Our RW members were especially adroit at telling idiots they were idiots in a manner that the idiots understood. 

So true.

[alex330]

The RW were superb resources, especially for open-minded newbies attempting to understand RW.   Our RW members were especially adroit at telling idiots they were idiots in a manner that the idiots understood.   

Yes, there were quite a few RW when I first signed up.

Some of them were real eye openers.

One RW pulled me aside and spoke with me privately at one point. She changed my way of thinking about a specific concern I had. She was more helpful than she realized and probably helped me seal the deal with my wife.

[I/O]

Mende: Simply ROFL..!! And...they never progress beyond that mindset, ever.

[msmobyone]

The conflict (that supposedly doesn't exist) in Ukraine drew sharp lines, as it should have quite frankly.

Russians like to ask questions, but often are offended by the answers if you dare to be candid. If you'd like to experience it in person, sit down with one for tea or meet on the street.

Your examples ring so spookily true .. I have to remind Russian friends who believe we are 'brainwashed' that we have truly independent ownership - not tvnstations run by the govt or on behalf of the govt by mates of the govt....

[Shadow]

Your examples ring so spookily true .. I have to remind Russian friends who believe we are 'brainwashed' that we have truly independent ownership - not tvnstations run by the govt or on behalf of the govt by mates of the govt....

Our postal, train and health care companies are having private ownership as well. Yet if the goverment speaks, they listen.

[msmobyone]

Our postal, train and health care companies are having private ownership as well. Yet if the goverment speaks, they listen.

Shadow, you may have missed - not being British - that Blair's leadership was scuppered by journalists - as was trickie dickie - all those years ago ...

Please - if you are going to start comparing the freedom of say RU v UK newspapers / tv stations to criticise govt policy you will have my sides sore laughing.

You seem to be confusing franchises for utilities with freedom of the press

[GregfromGa]

I remember Aloe posting one picture of her with a vacuum of all things. A stunning woman. I remember she was having a few troubles in some village in Belgium I believe. I certainly remember the vacuum. It's a shame about Lily not coming around much anymore. She was a sweetheart and there were others. Of course there were good healthy differences of opinion from time to time. I remember when one Russian gal called all Ukrainian women here prostitutes.

[SANDRO43]

There are a few, rmore married couples that I hope we can find an opportunity to meet in the next year or so.  Mendy and his wife,  OlgaH and her husband, and Sandro and his wife.

Doug, I'm afraid that would be rather hard to arrange, given that I''ve been divorced for the past 40 years, with no contacts with my ex since .

[Shadow]

Shadow, you may have missed - not being British - that Blair's leadership was scuppered by journalists - as was trickie dickie - all those years ago ...

Please - if you are going to start comparing the freedom of say RU v UK newspapers / tv stations to criticise govt policy you will have my sides sore laughing.

You seem to be confusing franchises for utilities with freedom of the press

There is freedom and there is how freedom is used.
Just because something is privately owned does not mean it can not be heavily influenced by the government, and just because something is owned by the government does not mean it can not do its job uninhibited.
I would suggest that you do not believe the BBC (State owned and ran) is worse in journalism as ITV or Sky.

[GregfromGa]

Doug, I'm afraid that would be rather hard to arrange, given that I''ve been divorced for the past 40 years, with no contacts with my ex since .

Sandro43, I'm thinking about another trip back to Italy in July. I will spend a couple of days in Milan probably. Maybe we can go back to that one place. The food was good there. Hope you are well. I will not be bringing the same Ukrainian girl this time but actually an American girl with really nice tits and a great ass.

[Shadow]

Doug, I'm afraid that would be rather hard to arrange, given that I''ve been divorced for the past 40 years, with no contacts with my ex since .

You have enough contacts on your homepage that would be able to fill that vacancy for the duration of the meeting.

[jone]

I must confess, I had a chuckle when Doug said that he wanted to meet Mrs. Sandro.

[Muzh]

I must confess, I had a chuckle when Doug said that he wanted to meet Mrs. Sandro.

Yea, me too.


Although, our meeting was a treat. An experience we will cherish. Sandro, did you bring Greg to the restaurant we went? The food was great.

[SANDRO43]

Maybe we can go back to that one place. The food was good there.

I could take you to places where it is better, e.g. a fish restaurant with very reasonable prices , provided I'm not at the seaside in that period.

an American girl with really nice tits and a great ass.

Are you sure you want me along, after what I wrote about being wifeless for 40 years ?

[SANDRO43]

Sandro, did you bring Greg to the restaurant we went?

No, we had a buffet dinner at a place close to his hotel - his choice.

[msmobyone]

There is freedom and there is how freedom is used.
Just because something is privately owned does not mean it can not be heavily influenced by the government, and just because something is owned by the government does not mean it can not do its job uninhibited.

Shadow, that is just wordy 'bollox' - in the context of long standing democracies - I note that you didn't even try to counter my examples of journalism bring down leaders...

I would suggest that you do not believe the BBC (State owned and ran) is worse in journalism as ITV or Sky.

I wouldn't begin by suggesting the BBC IS state run... it isn't .. nor is it state funded

I would suggest that SKY news is more biased than the BBC - reflecting the ultimate influence of the major shareholding family.

In the case of RT it started off promoting Russia and now promotes Kremlin propaganda re deflecting the away games in Ukraine, the MH17 fiasco, the military occupation of Crimea - followed by a farcical referendum, sticking up for Sepp Blatter, supporting ASSad - the dictator - in Syria - to name but a few ....

[Shadow]

The bollox is all yours. Do not try to semantic your way out of that BBC is a state company.
As for RT, anyone thinking they have ever been anything else as apropaganda channel is out of their mind.
Likewise is anyone thinkingthat RT is representative of Russian news broadcasts.

[msmobyone]

The bollox is all yours. Do not try to semantic your way out of that BBC is a state company.

I'm sorry, Shadow, I THINK you may be persiing in the daft notion that the Beeb IS state run 

Enquiries like Hutton will put you straight..please google it, read the findings and you can thank me

As for RT, anyone thinking they have ever been anything else as apropaganda channel is out of their mind.
Likewise is anyone thinkingthat RT is representative of Russian news broadcasts.

 It started off putting a Russian perspective on international news - THEN - it evolved into a slightly more sophisticated version of Russian news.... putting the state's version of the news and trying to undermine any negativity as a result of Russia's away games..

Watching RT or state news is an Orwellian experience.

I can't believe we might be talking about the same news channels...

[Shadow]

I'm sorry, Shadow, I THINK you may be persiing in the daft notion that the Beeb IS state run 

Enquiries like Hutton will put you straight..please google it, read the findings and you can thank me

You are still delusional about your own media. Makes clear that you are not a good judge of any foreign ones as well.

 It started off putting a Russian perspective on international news - THEN - it evolved into a slightly more sophisticated version of Russian news.... putting the state's version of the news and trying to undermine any negativity as a result of Russia's away games..

Watching RT or state news is an Orwellian experience.

I can't believe we might be talking about the same news channels...

Guess I am writing Chinese. We agree about RT. It was clear what RT was to us already 10 years ago.
However RT is not at all representative of news broadcasts inside Russia which Russians watch.
MrsShadows first comments on watching RT were that it was a tabloid which she hated, and that opinion has not become any better.
The amount of people inside Russia watching this channel is minimal, it is made for foreigners and expats mainly.

[Faux Pas]

Guys don't act surprised that there are few to no women here. Some of you reprobates chided me for telling you to knock it off with the big tits vs little tits/ shaved vs hair threads. Most "ladies" don't want to contribute to that crap or be associated with a forum that promotes it. Keep the locker room discussions in PM and perhaps some of them may return

[BC]

I really miss Donna Pedro...

[GregfromGa]

Guys don't act surprised that there are few to no women here. Some of you reprobates chided me for telling you to knock it off with the big tits vs little tits/ shaved vs hair threads. Most "ladies" don't want to contribute to that crap or be associated with a forum that promotes it. Keep the locker room discussions in PM and perhaps some of them may return

With all due respect. This place has had a few nut jobs. Usually it was other women that gave women such a hard time. I just wish more would come back. I remember Anastacia Ash. All I can say is "Wow" 

[Shadow]

Seems noboy has remembered Helen so far. Also quite a character, even in real life.

[GregfromGa]

Seems noboy has remembered Helen so far. Also quite a character, even in real life.

Yep I remember her. She camped out here. I'm thinking she was Russian. I always wonder what happened to some of these people.

[treadmilldude]

Guys don't act surprised that there are few to no women here. Some of you reprobates chided me for telling you to knock it off with the big tits vs little tits/ shaved vs hair threads. Most "ladies" don't want to contribute to that crap or be associated with a forum that promotes it. Keep the locker room discussions in PM and perhaps some of them may return

That is absolutely ridiculous that that kind of language and talk was allowed on RWD to begin with. I think 99% of us men on here just want to find an amazing, sweet, kind, faithful, loving woman we can completely fall in love with, spend the rest of our lives loving, protecting, taking care of, providing for...being the Best Husband we can possibly be.

Talk of the size of a woman's "tits" or descriptions of her pubic area...that is absolutely outrageous and that kind of talk should not be allowed on RWD. Violators that talk about that stuff out in the open, and not privately through PM, should be a given a warning to knock it off, take it to PM and talk about it privately through PM. If they violate that rule a 2nd time, then a 2 week ban would be completely called for.

Having a woman's perspective here on this board is invaluable. There are so many things about women I still to this day do not understand, so many things about a woman's psyche I have been wrong about over and over and over again throughout my life, that it is so important to have some women here that can provide some insight into generally how the average woman thinks. If I had a dollar for every time I have been wrong about a woman I was dating / potentially wanting to date, I would easily have several million dollars.

I am glad I was not a member here when that sexually explicit talk was going on because I would have spoken up and told the offending parties to STFU. If I would have gotten in trouble and banned for telling the offending parties to STFU, then oh well, I would be fine with getting banned for that. RWD needs to be a board where women always feel welcome, always feel they have an outlet for sharing their thoughts and ideas without having to be subjected to crude, vulgar talk from a bunch of male idiots.

[BillyB]

Seems noboy has remembered Helen so far. Also quite a character, even in real life.

I remember Helen. Although some men didn't gel with her, I liked when she participated here.

[Lily]

Hello darlings, I am here I did not forget about you! Just being busy with my life in Canada, my career, sports, shopping, going out, contributing to my Canadian pension, trying to minimize Canadian taxes, learning investments, looking for deals, etc etc. Everything that a normal Canadian would do!

[msmobyone]

You are still delusional about your own media. Makes clear that you are not a good judge of any foreign ones as well.

Shadow, please prove to me the BBC 'state run' - then we can discuss who is 'deluded'  You've now ducked examples twice -that demonstrate the Beeb does not slavishly follow govt. 'wishes' ...

Guess I am writing Chinese. We agree about RT. It was clear what RT was to us already 10 years ago.
However RT is not at all representative of news broadcasts inside Russia which Russians watch.
MrsShadows first comments on watching RT were that it was a tabloid which she hated, and that opinion has not become any better.
The amount of people inside Russia watching this channel is minimal, it is made for foreigners and expats mainly.

Shadow, you are competent in English - you are just being obtuse, now

RT has evolved from an amateur news / info about Russia - into a polished and highly funded propaganda 'news' channel... We might agree about it being a Kremlin mouthpiece and it's 'news' being  targeted at non Russian speakers -but it is watched by Russians who want to improve their English and it is available as a free channel in most Russian TV packages.

It is certainly aimed at non-Russians - but the message is the same... example 'we are in Syria to help the govt attack terrorists'' .. I am afraid that we must agree to differ - as the mantra on all Russian state owned news channels is the same - not questioning the wisdom of supporting Assad, for example ..

I'm mindful that our difference of opinion is diverting from the thread

[ML]

I am in contact via email with Ukraine ladies who used to post here.

They are depressed with the situation in Ukraine and don't want to read the blather here from some Russian supporters.

[Faux Pas]

I am in contact via email with Ukraine ladies who used to post here.

They are depressed with the situation in Ukraine and don't want to read the blather here from some Russian supporters.

Which Ukraine ladies and which Russian supporters?

[calmissile]

Hello darlings, I am here I did not forget about you! Just being busy with my life in Canada, my career, sports, shopping, going out, contributing to my Canadian pension, trying to minimize Canadian taxes, learning investments, looking for deals, etc etc. Everything that a normal Canadian would do!

Nice to hear from you Lily. 
Drop in once in a while to give us an update.  You had a lot of followers of your life.

[msmobyone]

Hi Lily

I'm also pleased to hear from you ... I find it interesting how seriously you have adopted you new country.

Many people from N.Ireland left for Canada during our 'troubles'  - esp. in the 70'sand 80's and adore the life..

[Shadow]

Shadow, please prove to me the BBC 'state run' - then we can discuss who is 'deluded'  You've now ducked examples twice -that demonstrate the Beeb does not slavishly follow govt. 'wishes' ...

Shadow, you are competent in English - you are just being obtuse, now

RT has evolved from an amateur news / info about Russia - into a polished and highly funded propaganda 'news' channel... We might agree about it being a Kremlin mouthpiece and it's 'news' being  targeted at non Russian speakers -but it is watched by Russians who want to improve their English and it is available as a free channel in most Russian TV packages.

It is certainly aimed at non-Russians - but the message is the same... example 'we are in Syria to help the govt attack terrorists'' .. I am afraid that we must agree to differ - as the mantra on all Russian state owned news channels is the same - not questioning the wisdom of supporting Assad, for example ..

I'm mindful that our difference of opinion is diverting from the thread

I never said the BBC is slavishly following government. On the cntrary I gave them as aexample of quality independent journalism.
It seems that you have the opinion that any media that shows statements contrary to your opinion is bad. Which in incorrect.
The actual task of the media should be to present the news and all opinions involved, without pointing at what position one has to take.

[BillyB]

Hello darlings, I am here I did not forget about you! Just being busy with my life in Canada, my career, sports, shopping, going out, contributing to my Canadian pension, trying to minimize Canadian taxes, learning investments, looking for deals, etc etc. Everything that a normal Canadian would do!

Gentlemen, for those who don't know Lily, she's ALL lady and ALL the woman you'll ever need at this forum.

[GregfromGa]

Gentlemen, for those who don't know Lily, she's ALL lady and ALL the woman you'll ever need at this forum.

I remember the day she arrived here. She was attacked by Helen and others. Some thought she was a troll. The women here at that time were very hard on her. Lily has always been a class act.

[BillyB]

Lily has always been a class act.

Very true. Lily never engaged in anything dirty. Maybe some ladies thought she was a troll because she didn't join in their ritual of kicking men's balls?

[GregfromGa]

Looking back over some of my Personal messages the last 11 years here. I have to wonder what happened to some of these people. I just asked Judnnc how it was going. I remember his situation after reading a bit. He basically got married and proposed after 4 days. He talked about how negative the board was toward him. I got his message gloating about how he had gotten married and how we were all wrong.  I wish him the best but I'd just like to know. There have been others.

[msmobyone]

I never said the BBC is slavishly following government. On the cntrary I gave them as aexample of quality independent journalism.

Great ... your 'Chinese' suggested otherwise

It seems that you have the opinion that any media that shows statements contrary to your opinion is bad. Which in incorrect.

NOT the case ... in my life I've learnt that not all history / news should be relied on - as important new/history might be omitted, that totally changes the perspective..

The actual task of the media should be to present the news and all opinions involved, without pointing at what position one has to take.

We agree.